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Re: Professional lists #unitedkingdom

Peter Glass <monad1@...>
 

Last month David Kravitz and Susan Goldsmith discussed lists for legal and
medical professionals.

For the legal profession, a directory called 'The Law List' has been
published continuously since as early as 1775 although that was not its
exact name in the early years. The City of London Guildhall Library
catalogue states holdings >from 1841 onwards although they must have a
scatter of earlier ones since I've consulted them. The location of other
near full sets would be interesting to know about.

Each list is organised hierarchically beginning with the Law Lords going
through the Q.C.s and barristers then ending with the ordinary
attorneys/solicitors. In the early 19thC there is no more than name and
address recorded although a second address can be included, thus I
discovered my 3xg-grandfather kept a 'country cottage' at the top of
Hornsey Road in Islington for some decades >from the 1820s.

I missed a talk in the winter by a Fellow >from Wellcome Trust's History of
Medicine Library which was a pity but they will have one of the best
collections of available directories of physicians equivalent to the legal
profession.
http://library.wellcome.ac.uk/
They seem to have directories of American doctors listed in the online
catalogue so perhaps the converse is true in the counterpart libraries in
the USA.

In our message archive Hazel Dakers some years ago also mentioned the Royal
College of Surgeons as a separate entity and worth following up.

Peter Glass, London

=

At 11:34 22/06/06 +0300, you wrote:
>
Susan Goldsmith asked "Is there a UK national list for professions (if one
does not know the city where the person is located)? "

All UK public libraries with a reference section have lists for all
professions. If you are not a resident in the UK, you could ask someone to
do a look-up and many librarians are helpful enough to do so as well.

David Kravitz
Netanya, Israel
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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: Professional lists #unitedkingdom

Peter Glass <monad1@...>
 

Last month David Kravitz and Susan Goldsmith discussed lists for legal and
medical professionals.

For the legal profession, a directory called 'The Law List' has been
published continuously since as early as 1775 although that was not its
exact name in the early years. The City of London Guildhall Library
catalogue states holdings >from 1841 onwards although they must have a
scatter of earlier ones since I've consulted them. The location of other
near full sets would be interesting to know about.

Each list is organised hierarchically beginning with the Law Lords going
through the Q.C.s and barristers then ending with the ordinary
attorneys/solicitors. In the early 19thC there is no more than name and
address recorded although a second address can be included, thus I
discovered my 3xg-grandfather kept a 'country cottage' at the top of
Hornsey Road in Islington for some decades >from the 1820s.

I missed a talk in the winter by a Fellow >from Wellcome Trust's History of
Medicine Library which was a pity but they will have one of the best
collections of available directories of physicians equivalent to the legal
profession.
http://library.wellcome.ac.uk/
They seem to have directories of American doctors listed in the online
catalogue so perhaps the converse is true in the counterpart libraries in
the USA.

In our message archive Hazel Dakers some years ago also mentioned the Royal
College of Surgeons as a separate entity and worth following up.

Peter Glass, London

=

At 11:34 22/06/06 +0300, you wrote:
>
Susan Goldsmith asked "Is there a UK national list for professions (if one
does not know the city where the person is located)? "

All UK public libraries with a reference section have lists for all
professions. If you are not a resident in the UK, you could ask someone to
do a look-up and many librarians are helpful enough to do so as well.

David Kravitz
Netanya, Israel
-----------------------------------------------------


Re: Rare given name Eliezer LIEBER / LIBER #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Yossi Mund writes: One of my ancestors had the rare name combination
"Eliezer Lieber". This is an ancient, but rare, combination - Lieber
is one of many varieties of nicknames of Eliezer, such as Lipa,
Lipman, Lieberman, etc. meaning "beloved". (These can be found in the
"Seder HaShemot", printed in some editions of the "Shulchan Aruch"
with section "Even HaEzer".) I have never come across anyone else
with this particular variation. I suppose that anyone with the same
name in his area is likely related to him. He lived in the Lviv
(Lwow/Lvov/Lemberg) area of Galicia (now Ukraine). He probably was
named after an ancestor with surname WITLIN or WITTLIN. Any one know
someone else with this given name?>

Sadly I have to tell Yossi that there was a teenage holocaust victim
Eliezer LIEBER >from Rzesow [Lwow/Lvov/Lemberg]. There is a PoT from
Chaim, who I assume was his brother {'brat' and then Hebrew] - the
PoT says *son* and I have sent in a correction to that effect.
Eliezer LIEBER was born in Rzeszow, Poland in 1928 to Isak and
Sheindl [Sabina]. Eliezer perished in 1942 in Belzec, Poland at the
age of 14.

When you check LIEBERMAN{N} - Eliezer appear >from as far afield as
Latvia, Warsaw, Paris, Bukovina, Hungary, Romania, Lodz, Lwow, and
Lublin. We remember all of them here today.

Many Jews >from Lemberg settled in Vienna - I can offer Yossi an
interesting, and probably unconnected, combination >from Vienna:

LIEBREICH Lieber aged 78 died 20.06.1921

There is a holocaust victim called Emil LIEBERMANN [whose Hebrew name
may well have been Emanuel or Eliezier] who was born in Vienna on
09.07.1893.

As for WITTLIN - there are 6 WITTLIN graves in Vienna and these two
are definitely Galician:

Wittlin Baruch aged 31 buried 26.10.1915
Wittlin Feige aged 32 died 09.03.1933

We also have two WITLIN. The moral is: if you come >from Lemberg
remember to explore the Vienna link.

Celia Male [U.K.]


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Rare given name Eliezer LIEBER / LIBER #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Yossi Mund writes: One of my ancestors had the rare name combination
"Eliezer Lieber". This is an ancient, but rare, combination - Lieber
is one of many varieties of nicknames of Eliezer, such as Lipa,
Lipman, Lieberman, etc. meaning "beloved". (These can be found in the
"Seder HaShemot", printed in some editions of the "Shulchan Aruch"
with section "Even HaEzer".) I have never come across anyone else
with this particular variation. I suppose that anyone with the same
name in his area is likely related to him. He lived in the Lviv
(Lwow/Lvov/Lemberg) area of Galicia (now Ukraine). He probably was
named after an ancestor with surname WITLIN or WITTLIN. Any one know
someone else with this given name?>

Sadly I have to tell Yossi that there was a teenage holocaust victim
Eliezer LIEBER >from Rzesow [Lwow/Lvov/Lemberg]. There is a PoT from
Chaim, who I assume was his brother {'brat' and then Hebrew] - the
PoT says *son* and I have sent in a correction to that effect.
Eliezer LIEBER was born in Rzeszow, Poland in 1928 to Isak and
Sheindl [Sabina]. Eliezer perished in 1942 in Belzec, Poland at the
age of 14.

When you check LIEBERMAN{N} - Eliezer appear >from as far afield as
Latvia, Warsaw, Paris, Bukovina, Hungary, Romania, Lodz, Lwow, and
Lublin. We remember all of them here today.

Many Jews >from Lemberg settled in Vienna - I can offer Yossi an
interesting, and probably unconnected, combination >from Vienna:

LIEBREICH Lieber aged 78 died 20.06.1921

There is a holocaust victim called Emil LIEBERMANN [whose Hebrew name
may well have been Emanuel or Eliezier] who was born in Vienna on
09.07.1893.

As for WITTLIN - there are 6 WITTLIN graves in Vienna and these two
are definitely Galician:

Wittlin Baruch aged 31 buried 26.10.1915
Wittlin Feige aged 32 died 09.03.1933

We also have two WITLIN. The moral is: if you come >from Lemberg
remember to explore the Vienna link.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Re: Help with my sources #romania

SFeuerstein <ethnoca@...>
 

Did you consider ILIESCU?

Sarah Feuerstein
Toronto, Canada


Romania SIG #Romania Re: Help with my sources #romania

SFeuerstein <ethnoca@...>
 

Did you consider ILIESCU?

Sarah Feuerstein
Toronto, Canada


Re: ELIESCU in Bucuresti #romania

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Mika Hovav asked about the surname ELIESCU in Bucuresti. Searching
1924/1925 Romanian business directories (one volume for Bucuresti, one for
the rest of what was then Romania) digitized by the Library of Congress at
www.kalter.org/search, you can find several ELIESCUs, including one in
Bucuresti.

Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


Romania SIG #Romania RE: ELIESCU in Bucuresti #romania

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Mika Hovav asked about the surname ELIESCU in Bucuresti. Searching
1924/1925 Romanian business directories (one volume for Bucuresti, one for
the rest of what was then Romania) digitized by the Library of Congress at
www.kalter.org/search, you can find several ELIESCUs, including one in
Bucuresti.

Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


derivation of the name KULBAK #belarus

Phil Kullback <popnrere@...>
 

I have been researching the name KULBAK and have not
been able to find the derivation of the name. Can you
help?

Philip Kullback
Delray Beach, Florida


Belarus SIG #Belarus derivation of the name KULBAK #belarus

Phil Kullback <popnrere@...>
 

I have been researching the name KULBAK and have not
been able to find the derivation of the name. Can you
help?

Philip Kullback
Delray Beach, Florida


Looking for PURS web site #belarus

Karen Zale
 

One more time I need the help of the group. I have
used the PURS (Pruzhany Uyezed Research Society) web
site with so much information about Shereshov. When I
typed in their address http://www.purs.org I now got
InsuranceQuote.net. Does anyone know their new
address? Thank you for your help.
Karen Zale kbzpzq@yahoo.com
Plano, TX
GREENBERG - Pultusk, Wyszkow
KAPLAN - Chernigov
EHRENFREUND, KELLERMAN - Tarnow
REITMAN, ZALEFSKY - Shereshevo
FINKELSTEIN - Shchedrin
SORKIN - Kapustino, Rogachev


Belarus SIG #Belarus Looking for PURS web site #belarus

Karen Zale
 

One more time I need the help of the group. I have
used the PURS (Pruzhany Uyezed Research Society) web
site with so much information about Shereshov. When I
typed in their address http://www.purs.org I now got
InsuranceQuote.net. Does anyone know their new
address? Thank you for your help.
Karen Zale kbzpzq@yahoo.com
Plano, TX
GREENBERG - Pultusk, Wyszkow
KAPLAN - Chernigov
EHRENFREUND, KELLERMAN - Tarnow
REITMAN, ZALEFSKY - Shereshevo
FINKELSTEIN - Shchedrin
SORKIN - Kapustino, Rogachev


Searching Liskowski / Lister #unitedkingdom

Stuart Liss <stuartliss@...>
 

I found the online marriage record of my cousins Chaim Liskowski and Edith Halprin who were married on July 29, 1948 at the West London Synagogue. I emailed the synagogue and asked them for any information. They weren't members of the synagogue and neither is their daughter, Josephine Lister.

Is there any way to find info on Chaim and Edith? They were born in 1910 and 1911, respectively, so it isn't likely that they are alive.

How about Josephine? I don't know her married name or where she lives.


Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Stuart Liss
Evergreen, Colorado

Liskowsky, Baksht, Bakst, Baxt, Marrow, Marovinski, Wolinsky, Wolinetz, Woliyniec, Routtenberg

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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Searching Liskowski / Lister #unitedkingdom

Stuart Liss <stuartliss@...>
 

I found the online marriage record of my cousins Chaim Liskowski and Edith Halprin who were married on July 29, 1948 at the West London Synagogue. I emailed the synagogue and asked them for any information. They weren't members of the synagogue and neither is their daughter, Josephine Lister.

Is there any way to find info on Chaim and Edith? They were born in 1910 and 1911, respectively, so it isn't likely that they are alive.

How about Josephine? I don't know her married name or where she lives.


Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Stuart Liss
Evergreen, Colorado

Liskowsky, Baksht, Bakst, Baxt, Marrow, Marovinski, Wolinsky, Wolinetz, Woliyniec, Routtenberg

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Re: Yanava #belarus

Linda D. Epstein <l.epstein@...>
 

Yanava could also be Yanowo- >from a historical family document I have signed
by my grandfather's brothers and sisters (8 total) it reads:

Our mother, during a four weeks military duty by father's nephew, one
Leible, Boruch's son >from Yanowo, who was religiously inclined, had prepared
and sent meals to him daily by one of her children to the soldiers'
barracks, a distance of about six American miles.
My great grandparents were >from Sokolka, in Grodno, so Yanava could be near
Sokolka.

Linda D. Epstein -l.epstein@verizon.net
TIKOTZINSKI/EPSTEIN: Sokolka, Grodno---> Elmira, NY ***
SPUND/MORRIS/SHAPIRO: Minsk ---> Washington, DC and Chicago, IL ***
WEINSTEIN: Makow, Poland, (Lomza Gubernia) ---> Israel and NYC, US ***
SAFFIAN/SAFIAN: Makow, Poland, (Lomza Gubernia) ---> LA, CA, NYC, US ***
WOLFOWICH: Krinky, Grodno ***GROSSMAN: RUSSIA ---> Utica, NY
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Yanava #belarus

Linda D. Epstein <l.epstein@...>
 

Yanava could also be Yanowo- >from a historical family document I have signed
by my grandfather's brothers and sisters (8 total) it reads:

Our mother, during a four weeks military duty by father's nephew, one
Leible, Boruch's son >from Yanowo, who was religiously inclined, had prepared
and sent meals to him daily by one of her children to the soldiers'
barracks, a distance of about six American miles.
My great grandparents were >from Sokolka, in Grodno, so Yanava could be near
Sokolka.

Linda D. Epstein -l.epstein@verizon.net
TIKOTZINSKI/EPSTEIN: Sokolka, Grodno---> Elmira, NY ***
SPUND/MORRIS/SHAPIRO: Minsk ---> Washington, DC and Chicago, IL ***
WEINSTEIN: Makow, Poland, (Lomza Gubernia) ---> Israel and NYC, US ***
SAFFIAN/SAFIAN: Makow, Poland, (Lomza Gubernia) ---> LA, CA, NYC, US ***
WOLFOWICH: Krinky, Grodno ***GROSSMAN: RUSSIA ---> Utica, NY
MODERATOR NOTE: Please sign all messages with your location also.


Re: Yanava #belarus

Stanley Diamond
 

In a message dated Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 11:14:15 +0200,
"AS" <avivas1@zahav.net.il> writes:

Subject: Re: Yanava
From: >>X-Message-Number: 1

Yanava might turn out Yonava, Jonava, Lithuanian Latin transcription
matches,- a town in Lithuania with considerable Jewish population bewore
WWII.
Aharon Starovolski
Kiron, Israel
avivas1@smile.net.il


I am looking for the following towns and their current locations:
Yanava, Poland Researching GOLDSTEIN, SHAPIRO
Kim Formica
CT, USA
Here is another possibility....

There are GOLDZTEJN entries in 19th century tax lists and notarial records of Janow Sokolski, Poland. This town is 40 km North of Bialystok and was referred to by its Jewish population as Yanova.
There are also two SHAPIRO burials in the cemetery section for this town in the Baron Hirsch Cemetery, Staten Island.

Stanley Diamond, Montreal


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Yanava #belarus

Stanley Diamond
 

In a message dated Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 11:14:15 +0200,
"AS" <avivas1@zahav.net.il> writes:

Subject: Re: Yanava
From: >>X-Message-Number: 1

Yanava might turn out Yonava, Jonava, Lithuanian Latin transcription
matches,- a town in Lithuania with considerable Jewish population bewore
WWII.
Aharon Starovolski
Kiron, Israel
avivas1@smile.net.il


I am looking for the following towns and their current locations:
Yanava, Poland Researching GOLDSTEIN, SHAPIRO
Kim Formica
CT, USA
Here is another possibility....

There are GOLDZTEJN entries in 19th century tax lists and notarial records of Janow Sokolski, Poland. This town is 40 km North of Bialystok and was referred to by its Jewish population as Yanova.
There are also two SHAPIRO burials in the cemetery section for this town in the Baron Hirsch Cemetery, Staten Island.

Stanley Diamond, Montreal


Looking For #ukraine

Lillian Siegfried <lillians@...>
 

Has anyone heard of DELINCO, DELINKO or SKLAR >from Haifa, Israel. May not
be exact spelling.

Lillian Siegfried
Staten Island, NY


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Looking For #ukraine

Lillian Siegfried <lillians@...>
 

Has anyone heard of DELINCO, DELINKO or SKLAR >from Haifa, Israel. May not
be exact spelling.

Lillian Siegfried
Staten Island, NY