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Re: How can I trace original Jewish family name #general

tom klein <jewishgen@...>
 

The only definitive way to find out a name is to dig up documentary proof,
such as a travel document or a legal change of name, or a census record, etc.
Otherwise, all you can do is speculate. In this case, RICH might have been
REICH or REICHMAN, but it could also have been GOMBRICH or any other name
containing a similar sound or meaning.

Tom Klein,
Toronto

"Nick Rich" <nick@...> wrote:

I hope my question is appropriate for this discussion group. I have been
researching my family tree and have come up against a brick-wall. My great
grand-father was a German subject and his brother a Russian/Polish subject.
Their surname in this country was RICH which I would guess was changed
from something else. What is my best hope of trying to find out their
original surname? Is it possible to find passenger lists? They were Jews and
came into the UK with their parents when they were children sometime around
1870.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: How can I trace original Jewish family name #general

tom klein <jewishgen@...>
 

The only definitive way to find out a name is to dig up documentary proof,
such as a travel document or a legal change of name, or a census record, etc.
Otherwise, all you can do is speculate. In this case, RICH might have been
REICH or REICHMAN, but it could also have been GOMBRICH or any other name
containing a similar sound or meaning.

Tom Klein,
Toronto

"Nick Rich" <nick@...> wrote:

I hope my question is appropriate for this discussion group. I have been
researching my family tree and have come up against a brick-wall. My great
grand-father was a German subject and his brother a Russian/Polish subject.
Their surname in this country was RICH which I would guess was changed
from something else. What is my best hope of trying to find out their
original surname? Is it possible to find passenger lists? They were Jews and
came into the UK with their parents when they were children sometime around
1870.


1926-1930 Polish business directory search improvement #galicia

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

When searching the 1926/1927, 1928, 1929, or 1930 Poland and Danzig Business
Directories at www.kalter.org/search, search results are now organized
according to geographic region (e.g., Wojewodztwa Tarnopolskie, Wilenskie,
Wolynskie, etc.). This should make it easier to identify relevant results
when many matches to the search term are returned.

Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@...
near Washington, D.C.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia 1926-1930 Polish business directory search improvement #galicia

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

When searching the 1926/1927, 1928, 1929, or 1930 Poland and Danzig Business
Directories at www.kalter.org/search, search results are now organized
according to geographic region (e.g., Wojewodztwa Tarnopolskie, Wilenskie,
Wolynskie, etc.). This should make it easier to identify relevant results
when many matches to the search term are returned.

Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@...
near Washington, D.C.


1926-1930 Polish business directory search improvement #poland

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

When searching the 1926/1927, 1928, 1929, or 1930 Poland and Danzig Business
Directories at www.kalter.org/search, search results are now organized
according to geographic region (e.g., Wojewodztwa Tarnopolskie, Wilenskie,
Wolynskie, etc.). This should make it easier to identify relevant results
when many matches to the search term are returned.

Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@...
near Washington, D.C.


Re: fiinding lost Polish relative #poland

Brdbrain7@...
 

To all who wrote-Thank you so much! I now know that Yaakov Gafni, son of
Menachem, died in 1961. There are people named Yaakov Gafni in current
Israeli directories. I wonder if they could be grandsons. A kind lady
will be calling Hevra Kadisha for me to see if they know who supplied
death information. I hope to find someone who has the time to check
newspapers at the library for information about family and survivors.

Again, thank you for your help!

Robin B. Seidenberg

Subject: finding lost Polish relative
From: Brdbrain7@...
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:23:01 EDT
X-Message-Number: 1

Does anyone know how I would go about finding someone who is probably a
relative >from Poland who lived in Israel in 1956? I just found a page
of testimony on Yad Vashem website submitted by a survivor named
"Yaakov Gafni". Does anyone know if he has living relatives in Israel
or elsewhere? Unfortunately, I don't know any Hebrew so this is
difficult for me to research.

Robin B. Seidenberg

Researching:
BRENNER, ERLICHMAN-Kamenets Podolskiy area (Zinkov, Proskurov, etc.)
BOGOSLOWSKY-Stavisht, Kiev, Ekaterinoslav
WANIEWSKI, WYRZYKIEWICZ- Bialystok-Tykocin area (Lomza gubernia)

MODERATOR'S NOTE: The Israel Genealogocal Society has volunteered
to field inquiries regarding submitters of Pages of Testimony and
try to provide as much help as possible: Go to
http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/Research/YVS.html for more information.


JRI Poland #Poland 1926-1930 Polish business directory search improvement #poland

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

When searching the 1926/1927, 1928, 1929, or 1930 Poland and Danzig Business
Directories at www.kalter.org/search, search results are now organized
according to geographic region (e.g., Wojewodztwa Tarnopolskie, Wilenskie,
Wolynskie, etc.). This should make it easier to identify relevant results
when many matches to the search term are returned.

Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@...
near Washington, D.C.


JRI Poland #Poland re: fiinding lost Polish relative #poland

Brdbrain7@...
 

To all who wrote-Thank you so much! I now know that Yaakov Gafni, son of
Menachem, died in 1961. There are people named Yaakov Gafni in current
Israeli directories. I wonder if they could be grandsons. A kind lady
will be calling Hevra Kadisha for me to see if they know who supplied
death information. I hope to find someone who has the time to check
newspapers at the library for information about family and survivors.

Again, thank you for your help!

Robin B. Seidenberg

Subject: finding lost Polish relative
From: Brdbrain7@...
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:23:01 EDT
X-Message-Number: 1

Does anyone know how I would go about finding someone who is probably a
relative >from Poland who lived in Israel in 1956? I just found a page
of testimony on Yad Vashem website submitted by a survivor named
"Yaakov Gafni". Does anyone know if he has living relatives in Israel
or elsewhere? Unfortunately, I don't know any Hebrew so this is
difficult for me to research.

Robin B. Seidenberg

Researching:
BRENNER, ERLICHMAN-Kamenets Podolskiy area (Zinkov, Proskurov, etc.)
BOGOSLOWSKY-Stavisht, Kiev, Ekaterinoslav
WANIEWSKI, WYRZYKIEWICZ- Bialystok-Tykocin area (Lomza gubernia)

MODERATOR'S NOTE: The Israel Genealogocal Society has volunteered
to field inquiries regarding submitters of Pages of Testimony and
try to provide as much help as possible: Go to
http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/Research/YVS.html for more information.


Re children apparently born 20 years before the marriage of their parents) #poland

Anita Frankel
 

Rose Feldman asks if anyone has a similar case (children apparently born 20
years before the marriage of their parents)

My great aunt, age 52, married her husband, age 53, in Olchowiec, Galicia in
1894. Their children were born in 1878 and 1880, about sixteen years
earlier. Even then she was 36 and 38. I would guess that there were several
infant deaths that I have no record of.

I cannot document the reason for the late marriage, but I have assumed that
they had a religious ceremony at the appropriate time, but later needed
official status. As far as I know, they did not emigrate.

Regards

Anita Frankel

(near Hartford Connecticut)


Translation Request - Russian Vital Records #poland

Aaron Slotnik
 

All,

Thanks to Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, I've been able to find several
vital records for my family. They are in Cyrillic script and I am seeking
translations for the following documents:

1: http://www.geocities.com/ahslot/zlotniktanchumbirth1874.jpg - Full
translation
2: http://www.geocities.com/ahslot/zlotnikszmulbirth.jpg - Full translation
3: http://www.geocities.com/ahslot/zlotnikfaigaryfkabirth.jpg - Full
translation
4: http://www.geocities.com/ahslot/zlotnikruchlalajabirth.jpg - Names,
dates, places, relationships
5: http://www.geocities.com/ahslot/zlotnikgrinachudesbirth.jpg - Names,
dates, places, relationships
6: http://www.geocities.com/ahslot/zlotnikrudabirth1876.jpg - Names, dates,
places, relationships

Please respond to me privately at aaronslotnik@... and thanks in
advance for your assistance!

Regards,
Aaron Slotnik
Chicago, IL USA

Researching:
ZLOTNIK - Nowy Dwor Mazowiecki, Pomiechowek, Zakroczym, Warsaw area
WOROSHILSKY - Bialystok area, Poland
GOLDBERG - Dabrowa Bialostocka, Poland
BLUMENTHAL, SCHAPIRA - Gusyatin, Gorodenka, Ukraine
BLUM, KATZ, MARTON - Salaj and Maramures Counties, Romania


JRI Poland #Poland Re children apparently born 20 years before the marriage of their parents) #poland

Anita Frankel
 

Rose Feldman asks if anyone has a similar case (children apparently born 20
years before the marriage of their parents)

My great aunt, age 52, married her husband, age 53, in Olchowiec, Galicia in
1894. Their children were born in 1878 and 1880, about sixteen years
earlier. Even then she was 36 and 38. I would guess that there were several
infant deaths that I have no record of.

I cannot document the reason for the late marriage, but I have assumed that
they had a religious ceremony at the appropriate time, but later needed
official status. As far as I know, they did not emigrate.

Regards

Anita Frankel

(near Hartford Connecticut)


JRI Poland #Poland Translation Request - Russian Vital Records #poland

Aaron Slotnik
 

All,

Thanks to Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, I've been able to find several
vital records for my family. They are in Cyrillic script and I am seeking
translations for the following documents:

1: http://www.geocities.com/ahslot/zlotniktanchumbirth1874.jpg - Full
translation
2: http://www.geocities.com/ahslot/zlotnikszmulbirth.jpg - Full translation
3: http://www.geocities.com/ahslot/zlotnikfaigaryfkabirth.jpg - Full
translation
4: http://www.geocities.com/ahslot/zlotnikruchlalajabirth.jpg - Names,
dates, places, relationships
5: http://www.geocities.com/ahslot/zlotnikgrinachudesbirth.jpg - Names,
dates, places, relationships
6: http://www.geocities.com/ahslot/zlotnikrudabirth1876.jpg - Names, dates,
places, relationships

Please respond to me privately at aaronslotnik@... and thanks in
advance for your assistance!

Regards,
Aaron Slotnik
Chicago, IL USA

Researching:
ZLOTNIK - Nowy Dwor Mazowiecki, Pomiechowek, Zakroczym, Warsaw area
WOROSHILSKY - Bialystok area, Poland
GOLDBERG - Dabrowa Bialostocka, Poland
BLUMENTHAL, SCHAPIRA - Gusyatin, Gorodenka, Ukraine
BLUM, KATZ, MARTON - Salaj and Maramures Counties, Romania


Rawicz and Leszno Notarial Records #poland

Jim Bennett <bennett@...>
 

The SEZAM database shows that at the Polish State Archive in Leszno there
are extensive holdings of the records of 19th century lawyers/notaries
[called "Notariusz"] for the towns of Rawicz/Rawitsch and Leszno/Lissa.
It appears that the notaries, as they retired and closed their offices, were
required by Prussian law to deposit their files, ledgers, etc in the
government archive. There appear to be scores of running meters of them. A
typical notary whose career spanned about 30 years would leave 3-5 running
meters of records.

Has anyone ever surveyed these fonds? Surely they contain contracts,
wills, probate matters, commercial papers etc.

Jim Bennett
Haifa, Israel


JRI Poland #Poland Rawicz and Leszno Notarial Records #poland

Jim Bennett <bennett@...>
 

The SEZAM database shows that at the Polish State Archive in Leszno there
are extensive holdings of the records of 19th century lawyers/notaries
[called "Notariusz"] for the towns of Rawicz/Rawitsch and Leszno/Lissa.
It appears that the notaries, as they retired and closed their offices, were
required by Prussian law to deposit their files, ledgers, etc in the
government archive. There appear to be scores of running meters of them. A
typical notary whose career spanned about 30 years would leave 3-5 running
meters of records.

Has anyone ever surveyed these fonds? Surely they contain contracts,
wills, probate matters, commercial papers etc.

Jim Bennett
Haifa, Israel


BORKOWSKY of Bielsko-Biala Poland #poland

Eva Robotnick <erobotnick@...>
 

Hi Everyone,
I am trying to find information (or contact) Roman Kurtz BORKOWSKY (or
something similar) of Bielsko-Biala for my cousin Klara (now Carola)
Bauer (last name before marriage).

Roman Kurtz BORKOWSKY (or something similar) was living in Bielsko-Biala,
together with my cousin, around 1892 - 1939 in Poland.
I understand that he was working as a dentist somewhere
near Haifa. He had two sons which must be 40-50 years old.

After WWII, my cousin Klara arrived in Israel in June, 1957 and Roman Kurtz
arrived approximately two months later.

The last known address for Roman was Shikun Gdud Ha Ivri ("British Legion"
in English) in Ramat Hasharon, Israel.

I looked for the shikun but it no longer exists in Ramat Hasharon telephone
book.

My cousin thinks that Roman later left Israel but she doesn't know where he
went.

We would appreciate it if anyone who knows him (or his sons) can let us
know how to contact him.

Regards and thankyou,
Mrs. Eva Robotnick
e-mail: @erobotnick

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


JRI Poland #Poland BORKOWSKY of Bielsko-Biala Poland #poland

Eva Robotnick <erobotnick@...>
 

Hi Everyone,
I am trying to find information (or contact) Roman Kurtz BORKOWSKY (or
something similar) of Bielsko-Biala for my cousin Klara (now Carola)
Bauer (last name before marriage).

Roman Kurtz BORKOWSKY (or something similar) was living in Bielsko-Biala,
together with my cousin, around 1892 - 1939 in Poland.
I understand that he was working as a dentist somewhere
near Haifa. He had two sons which must be 40-50 years old.

After WWII, my cousin Klara arrived in Israel in June, 1957 and Roman Kurtz
arrived approximately two months later.

The last known address for Roman was Shikun Gdud Ha Ivri ("British Legion"
in English) in Ramat Hasharon, Israel.

I looked for the shikun but it no longer exists in Ramat Hasharon telephone
book.

My cousin thinks that Roman later left Israel but she doesn't know where he
went.

We would appreciate it if anyone who knows him (or his sons) can let us
know how to contact him.

Regards and thankyou,
Mrs. Eva Robotnick
e-mail: @erobotnick

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


seeking Catherine KATZ #general

Joan Rimmon
 

Seeking information about a woman named Catherine KATZ, born 1903 in
Chicago, moved to New Jersey and married sometime before 1940. Although her
mother was Catholic and had herself married a Jewish man, Catherine was
ostracized by her mother and brothers Everett and Milton Jr. when she married
a Jewish man.

I have found the brothers, but no one seems to know what happened to
Catherine, her married name or descendants.

I plan to attend the NYC seminar in August, but was wondering if anyone could
tell me what is available to researchers in NJ and are marriage records
available?
Any help would be appreciated.

Joan Glanz RIMMON, Los Angeles

Seeking:
Germany: NUSBAUM/NUSSBAUM (kohanim) (Erdemannrode), LANGSDORF (Battenberg),
WEINBERG (Storndorf), STERN (Nieder Ohmen), ROSENSTOCK (Tann bei Fulda),
LEVISTEIN (Geisa), KATZ (Altenkirchen), FRANK (unknown city of origin, but
emigrated to US beofre 1860). Poltava:KNOPPOW, KNOPOV, BUDNITZKY Latvia:
GLANZSET/GLANSET, KLUMENS Belarus: DUKSIN, STARISHEVSKY, KRAZNITZKY, STAWSKI
(Zhabinka), SOLNITZE/SOLNICA/SOLNICE , GRYNSZPAN, KAPLANSKY (Kamenetz Litovsk)

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen seeking Catherine KATZ #general

Joan Rimmon
 

Seeking information about a woman named Catherine KATZ, born 1903 in
Chicago, moved to New Jersey and married sometime before 1940. Although her
mother was Catholic and had herself married a Jewish man, Catherine was
ostracized by her mother and brothers Everett and Milton Jr. when she married
a Jewish man.

I have found the brothers, but no one seems to know what happened to
Catherine, her married name or descendants.

I plan to attend the NYC seminar in August, but was wondering if anyone could
tell me what is available to researchers in NJ and are marriage records
available?
Any help would be appreciated.

Joan Glanz RIMMON, Los Angeles

Seeking:
Germany: NUSBAUM/NUSSBAUM (kohanim) (Erdemannrode), LANGSDORF (Battenberg),
WEINBERG (Storndorf), STERN (Nieder Ohmen), ROSENSTOCK (Tann bei Fulda),
LEVISTEIN (Geisa), KATZ (Altenkirchen), FRANK (unknown city of origin, but
emigrated to US beofre 1860). Poltava:KNOPPOW, KNOPOV, BUDNITZKY Latvia:
GLANZSET/GLANSET, KLUMENS Belarus: DUKSIN, STARISHEVSKY, KRAZNITZKY, STAWSKI
(Zhabinka), SOLNITZE/SOLNICA/SOLNICE , GRYNSZPAN, KAPLANSKY (Kamenetz Litovsk)

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately


FW: 2 varients of the same name #general

Leah Aharoni
 

In my research I came across a woman listed in family records as Yoora.
When searching Lithuanian revision lists, I found a family with similar
names but there the mother is listed as Yokheved. I have never heard of
a name such as Yoora. What are the chances that this is one and the same
person?

Leah Aharoni


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FW: 2 varients of the same name #general

Leah Aharoni
 

In my research I came across a woman listed in family records as Yoora.
When searching Lithuanian revision lists, I found a family with similar
names but there the mother is listed as Yokheved. I have never heard of
a name such as Yoora. What are the chances that this is one and the same
person?

Leah Aharoni