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HARTMAN in Scotland #general

Diane Cudo <tikvah7@...>
 

Dear JewishGen group,

I have traced an ancestor, Casper HARTMAN to Scotland, b. 1684, arrived
America 1730, d. Pennsylvania, USA 1777. I am not having luck tracing his birth
back in Scotland.

Does anyone have a suggestion?

Diane Hartman Cudo Small town Israel
Tikvah7@netvision.net.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen HARTMAN in Scotland #general

Diane Cudo <tikvah7@...>
 

Dear JewishGen group,

I have traced an ancestor, Casper HARTMAN to Scotland, b. 1684, arrived
America 1730, d. Pennsylvania, USA 1777. I am not having luck tracing his birth
back in Scotland.

Does anyone have a suggestion?

Diane Hartman Cudo Small town Israel
Tikvah7@netvision.net.il


Re: Klonimus Kalman #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 4/29/2006 6:26:22 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
matt@kalman.net writes:

< I have tried to find a documented link to the Kalonymus/Klonimus
origin, but have been unsuccessful. My great grandfather was a
Kalmanowitz, born in Vilna, Poland, and my father changed the name to
Kalman. >

Kalman is the kinnuy of Kalonymos. Like Kalonymos, it has acquired th
status of Shem kadosh, sacred name, that can be used in a ketubah, in a get, at
circumcision and when calling someone to the Torah. Except for the rare case
where someone has been given/assumed the secular, non-Jewish Hungarian name,
Kalman, you can assume that every Jewish Kalman is named after a Kalonymos.

Kalmanowitz means simply Son of Kalman. At some point in your ancestry
you're 99.84% certain to find a Kalonymos. If you go back even further you might
find a ShemTov--the Hebrew name of which Kalonymos is a Greek translation.

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Klonimus Kalman #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 4/29/2006 6:26:22 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
matt@kalman.net writes:

< I have tried to find a documented link to the Kalonymus/Klonimus
origin, but have been unsuccessful. My great grandfather was a
Kalmanowitz, born in Vilna, Poland, and my father changed the name to
Kalman. >

Kalman is the kinnuy of Kalonymos. Like Kalonymos, it has acquired th
status of Shem kadosh, sacred name, that can be used in a ketubah, in a get, at
circumcision and when calling someone to the Torah. Except for the rare case
where someone has been given/assumed the secular, non-Jewish Hungarian name,
Kalman, you can assume that every Jewish Kalman is named after a Kalonymos.

Kalmanowitz means simply Son of Kalman. At some point in your ancestry
you're 99.84% certain to find a Kalonymos. If you go back even further you might
find a ShemTov--the Hebrew name of which Kalonymos is a Greek translation.

Michael Bernet, New York


Searching for HONESTMAN in London and New York #general

Sue Ellis <ellis.sue@...>
 

Some time ago I asked for help translating the inscription on my great
grandfather's tombstone and was overwhelmed by the help and advice I
received. In spite of that, I have made little progress with this branch of
my family history research so I am again appealing for advice, information,
hints, tips - anything which might give me another line of enquiry to
follow!

Briefly, my grandmother came to London, England with her family some time
between 1891 (they are not on the census of that year) and 1897. In January
1897, a boy, Hyman, was born to Henry and Kate (formerly BRORD or BOORD)
HONESTMAN but thereafter Kate and Hyman disappear. I have been unable to
find a record of their deaths but in June 1900, Harry HONESTMAN, a widower,
married Sarah HAMEGATE. I found the family on the 1901 census at 116 Back
Church Lane, London listed as: Harris HONESTMAN, head, aged 38, a cabinet
maker; his wife Sarah HONESTMAN, and children Morris HONESTMAN aged 16, an
artist and Betsy HONESTMAN aged 8 (my grandmother, later known as
Beatrice/Beatrix). All were born Russia, 'Russ Sub'.

The only other HONESTMAN family I have discovered appears in the 1900 census
of New York at 22 Delaney Street, Manhattan listed as: Nathan HONESTMAN,
head, white male born May 1874 in Russia, a 'cap maker', arrived in USA
1895; his wife Dora born April 1876 in Russia and daughters Enny born Jan
1897 and Poly born July 1898 both in New York. I have been unable to find
Nathan and Dora in the Ellis Island records online, although I understood
that all immigrants to New York at the time had to register there.

My main questions are: Are Harry/Henry/Harris and Nathan connected in some
way or is it coincidence they chose the same anglicised name? What could
have happened to Kate and Hyman and why do they not appear in the GRO
records? How do I find out where in Russia Harry and his family originated?
Is there an index somewhere of applications for naturalisation in the UK?
How did my grandmother manage to acquire a passport in the early 1960s
presumably without a birth certificate?

I would be grateful for any clues anyone can provide either through this
forum or privately via the e-mail address below.

Sue Ellis
Nottingham, England
ellis.sue@ntlworld.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for HONESTMAN in London and New York #general

Sue Ellis <ellis.sue@...>
 

Some time ago I asked for help translating the inscription on my great
grandfather's tombstone and was overwhelmed by the help and advice I
received. In spite of that, I have made little progress with this branch of
my family history research so I am again appealing for advice, information,
hints, tips - anything which might give me another line of enquiry to
follow!

Briefly, my grandmother came to London, England with her family some time
between 1891 (they are not on the census of that year) and 1897. In January
1897, a boy, Hyman, was born to Henry and Kate (formerly BRORD or BOORD)
HONESTMAN but thereafter Kate and Hyman disappear. I have been unable to
find a record of their deaths but in June 1900, Harry HONESTMAN, a widower,
married Sarah HAMEGATE. I found the family on the 1901 census at 116 Back
Church Lane, London listed as: Harris HONESTMAN, head, aged 38, a cabinet
maker; his wife Sarah HONESTMAN, and children Morris HONESTMAN aged 16, an
artist and Betsy HONESTMAN aged 8 (my grandmother, later known as
Beatrice/Beatrix). All were born Russia, 'Russ Sub'.

The only other HONESTMAN family I have discovered appears in the 1900 census
of New York at 22 Delaney Street, Manhattan listed as: Nathan HONESTMAN,
head, white male born May 1874 in Russia, a 'cap maker', arrived in USA
1895; his wife Dora born April 1876 in Russia and daughters Enny born Jan
1897 and Poly born July 1898 both in New York. I have been unable to find
Nathan and Dora in the Ellis Island records online, although I understood
that all immigrants to New York at the time had to register there.

My main questions are: Are Harry/Henry/Harris and Nathan connected in some
way or is it coincidence they chose the same anglicised name? What could
have happened to Kate and Hyman and why do they not appear in the GRO
records? How do I find out where in Russia Harry and his family originated?
Is there an index somewhere of applications for naturalisation in the UK?
How did my grandmother manage to acquire a passport in the early 1960s
presumably without a birth certificate?

I would be grateful for any clues anyone can provide either through this
forum or privately via the e-mail address below.

Sue Ellis
Nottingham, England
ellis.sue@ntlworld.com


Holocaust Memorial Day Siren in Cape Town #southafrica

Colin Plen
 

Surely we can share our worst memories with those who were killed with us?
Colin Plen


In response to Beryl Baleson's notification of a siren in Cape Town, I was
unaware that Holocaust Memorial day also commemorated the Gypsies,
Jehova's Witnesses etc.
Dr. Clive Gold

*** This thread is now moving far enough >from the topic of genealogy that this
message will be the last one posted on it. -- Moderator ***


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Holocaust Memorial Day Siren in Cape Town #southafrica

Colin Plen
 

Surely we can share our worst memories with those who were killed with us?
Colin Plen


In response to Beryl Baleson's notification of a siren in Cape Town, I was
unaware that Holocaust Memorial day also commemorated the Gypsies,
Jehova's Witnesses etc.
Dr. Clive Gold

*** This thread is now moving far enough >from the topic of genealogy that this
message will be the last one posted on it. -- Moderator ***


The New York City IAJGS Conference in August #latvia #courland

Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
 

I am delighted to be able to tell you that the meeting of the
Courland Research Group is scheduled for Monday between 0800 and
0915. We have lined up a fascinating talk for you, in addition to our
brainstorming session about our research group.

Nicolas Evans will discuss:

The Port Jews of Libau: Typical or exceptional?

This illustrated presentation will discuss current research into the
Jewish merchants who traded at one of Courland's leading entrepots -
Libau. As well as being involved with the emigration trade, the Jews
residing in this Baltic port also benefitted >from the freedoms they had
been granted to trade in agricultural exports. The informal gathering
will be a two-way process enabling everyone to share their own knowledge
on the Jews of Courland and the chance to discuss the unique position
that
they enjoyed within and outside of Imperial Russia.

Nicholas J Evans is a Research Associate at the Centre for Jewish
Migration & Genealogy Studies at the University of Cape Town, and
Honorary Research Fellow at the Research Institute of Irish &
Scottish Studies at the University of Aberdeen. He has numerous
publications to his credit and his present research revolves around
the port Jews of Libau.

In addition, our meeting will also cover these points:

1. Where we now stand and where we are heading

2. Projects you would like to see undertaken

3. Projects presently in the pipeline

4. Any other business you would like to discuss.

On 12 March, I asked how many of you intend to attend the session. I
got responses >from about 15 of you. Consequently I requested a small
room that can comfortable hold 30, I believe. If more of you intend
to attend this session, I will need to know in advance because we may
have to restrict entry to those who have reserved a place by letting
me know of their intention to attend the session. Please email me if
you plan on coming and have not let me know until now.

I am looking forward to a wonderful time in New York!

Martha Lev-Zion
Steering Committee member


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia The New York City IAJGS Conference in August #courland #latvia

Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
 

I am delighted to be able to tell you that the meeting of the
Courland Research Group is scheduled for Monday between 0800 and
0915. We have lined up a fascinating talk for you, in addition to our
brainstorming session about our research group.

Nicolas Evans will discuss:

The Port Jews of Libau: Typical or exceptional?

This illustrated presentation will discuss current research into the
Jewish merchants who traded at one of Courland's leading entrepots -
Libau. As well as being involved with the emigration trade, the Jews
residing in this Baltic port also benefitted >from the freedoms they had
been granted to trade in agricultural exports. The informal gathering
will be a two-way process enabling everyone to share their own knowledge
on the Jews of Courland and the chance to discuss the unique position
that
they enjoyed within and outside of Imperial Russia.

Nicholas J Evans is a Research Associate at the Centre for Jewish
Migration & Genealogy Studies at the University of Cape Town, and
Honorary Research Fellow at the Research Institute of Irish &
Scottish Studies at the University of Aberdeen. He has numerous
publications to his credit and his present research revolves around
the port Jews of Libau.

In addition, our meeting will also cover these points:

1. Where we now stand and where we are heading

2. Projects you would like to see undertaken

3. Projects presently in the pipeline

4. Any other business you would like to discuss.

On 12 March, I asked how many of you intend to attend the session. I
got responses >from about 15 of you. Consequently I requested a small
room that can comfortable hold 30, I believe. If more of you intend
to attend this session, I will need to know in advance because we may
have to restrict entry to those who have reserved a place by letting
me know of their intention to attend the session. Please email me if
you plan on coming and have not let me know until now.

I am looking forward to a wonderful time in New York!

Martha Lev-Zion
Steering Committee member


Riga Conference #courland #latvia

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

A Conference of interest to all researching Jews who lived in Latvia.
Arlene Beare
UK

Sixth International Conference
JEWS IN A CHANGING WORLD



Latvian and Baltic Jews at the Crossroads of European History

The conference will be held in Riga, Latvia, September 11-14, 2006

University of Latvia Main Building, 19 Rainis Boulevard

The organizing committee is pleased to announce the Sixth
International Conference JEWS IN A CHANGING WORLD, which will take
place in Riga on September 11-14, 2006. The conference will be held
in honor of the one-hundredth anniversary of the Peitavas Street
Synagogue of Riga and will celebrate the one-hundredth birthday of
the French-Jewish philosopher Emmanuel Levinas (1906-1995).
The conference organizers invite papers on the history and culture of
Jews in Latvia and the Baltic region. Papers concerning Jewish
culture in other countries historically tied with the Baltic region
are also welcome.
A Jewish Book Festival will be held during the conference at the Riga
Jewish Community Center on 6 Skolas Street. There will be a session
dedicated to the Jewish book on Monday, September 11, and a special
session dedicated to Emmanuel Levinas on Thursday, September 14.

SEND ALL CORRESPONDENCE TO:

"Jews in a Changing World" Conference
Center for Judaic Studies
University of Latvia
19 Rainis Blvd
Riga, LV-1586, Latvia
Fax: 371-7-225039 (with message - Center for Judaic Studies)
E-mail: <mailto:jsc@latnet.lv>jsc@latnet.lv


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia Riga Conference #courland #latvia

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

A Conference of interest to all researching Jews who lived in Latvia.
Arlene Beare
UK

Sixth International Conference
JEWS IN A CHANGING WORLD



Latvian and Baltic Jews at the Crossroads of European History

The conference will be held in Riga, Latvia, September 11-14, 2006

University of Latvia Main Building, 19 Rainis Boulevard

The organizing committee is pleased to announce the Sixth
International Conference JEWS IN A CHANGING WORLD, which will take
place in Riga on September 11-14, 2006. The conference will be held
in honor of the one-hundredth anniversary of the Peitavas Street
Synagogue of Riga and will celebrate the one-hundredth birthday of
the French-Jewish philosopher Emmanuel Levinas (1906-1995).
The conference organizers invite papers on the history and culture of
Jews in Latvia and the Baltic region. Papers concerning Jewish
culture in other countries historically tied with the Baltic region
are also welcome.
A Jewish Book Festival will be held during the conference at the Riga
Jewish Community Center on 6 Skolas Street. There will be a session
dedicated to the Jewish book on Monday, September 11, and a special
session dedicated to Emmanuel Levinas on Thursday, September 14.

SEND ALL CORRESPONDENCE TO:

"Jews in a Changing World" Conference
Center for Judaic Studies
University of Latvia
19 Rainis Blvd
Riga, LV-1586, Latvia
Fax: 371-7-225039 (with message - Center for Judaic Studies)
E-mail: <mailto:jsc@latnet.lv>jsc@latnet.lv


Nisiel ZYLBERMAN markier Suwalki between 1862 and 1868 #general

Jan Bousse <janbousse@...>
 

Hello,

I found various records for Nisiel ZYLBERMAN in Suwalki, namely the death of
his child Chaja Mera in 1866 and births in 1862 and 1867. On two occasions
there is the mention after his name of "markier", which seems to be either
his profession or perhaps his function in the community. The text is in
Polish but I have not found a translation for the term, which seems to date
from that period. Can someone explain what it means?
Further I would like to know what the first name Nisiel corresponds to, what
could it have been changed into if the bearer came to England? I am in
particular searching for a Solomon Silverman, who apparently came >from
Suwalki between 1872 and 1876.

I thank you for your assistance.

Jan Bousse, Oostende, Belgium
janbousse@skynet.be


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Nisiel ZYLBERMAN markier Suwalki between 1862 and 1868 #general

Jan Bousse <janbousse@...>
 

Hello,

I found various records for Nisiel ZYLBERMAN in Suwalki, namely the death of
his child Chaja Mera in 1866 and births in 1862 and 1867. On two occasions
there is the mention after his name of "markier", which seems to be either
his profession or perhaps his function in the community. The text is in
Polish but I have not found a translation for the term, which seems to date
from that period. Can someone explain what it means?
Further I would like to know what the first name Nisiel corresponds to, what
could it have been changed into if the bearer came to England? I am in
particular searching for a Solomon Silverman, who apparently came >from
Suwalki between 1872 and 1876.

I thank you for your assistance.

Jan Bousse, Oostende, Belgium
janbousse@skynet.be


What does being listed with a family mean? #general

Peerutin <jushilli@...>
 

Hi

While searching through The All Lithuania Revision List Database (JewishGen)
for the name VELER >from Linkuva, I noticed references of other names as
being listed with them. Normally I would assume that this other name was
probably related to the family they were listed with but doing more
searching I noticed that this same name was also listed with others

Listed with family of VELER Orel (son of Yudel VELER) in 1834 Revision List
were BERSHINER / BERTINER/ BERZINER Leiba (son of Josel) and MARGOLIASH
Shymel (son of Mortkhel)
Leiba BERSHINER / BERTINER/ BERZINER was also listed with the family of Orel
son of Berel BAL in 1818 Hospital's Patients and Poor People
Shymel MARGOLIASH / MARGILES was also Listed with the family of Orel son of
Berel BAL in 1818 Hospital's Patients and Poor People

Could anyone help to explain what this means?

Thanks

Julian Peerutin
Kfar Saba, Israel

Researching
VELER/WELLER & SARFINOVICH/SHARFINOWITZ Linkuva/Kupiskis,Lithuania; CINDEL/TSINDEL
Kupiskis, Lithuania; LEVIN Rokiskis/Kupiskis, Lithuania;PICK/PINK/PEEK Birz,
Lithuania; DIAMOND / ORELASKY Siluva, Lithuania; DRUKER/PENN Dvinsk, Latvia;
HIRSCHSOHN / LEVENBERG / LEVINSOHN / MANDELSTAMM Kuldiga/Pilten/Liepaja, Latvia;
KALMEK/KALMANOVICH Rokiskis/Druyah, Lithuania; Braslav, Belarus; Dvinsk, Latvia;
NYMAN/NEIMAN Poland; PEERUTIN/PIRUTIN Kraslava/Dvinsk, Latvia; Vitebsk, Belarus


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen What does being listed with a family mean? #general

Peerutin <jushilli@...>
 

Hi

While searching through The All Lithuania Revision List Database (JewishGen)
for the name VELER >from Linkuva, I noticed references of other names as
being listed with them. Normally I would assume that this other name was
probably related to the family they were listed with but doing more
searching I noticed that this same name was also listed with others

Listed with family of VELER Orel (son of Yudel VELER) in 1834 Revision List
were BERSHINER / BERTINER/ BERZINER Leiba (son of Josel) and MARGOLIASH
Shymel (son of Mortkhel)
Leiba BERSHINER / BERTINER/ BERZINER was also listed with the family of Orel
son of Berel BAL in 1818 Hospital's Patients and Poor People
Shymel MARGOLIASH / MARGILES was also Listed with the family of Orel son of
Berel BAL in 1818 Hospital's Patients and Poor People

Could anyone help to explain what this means?

Thanks

Julian Peerutin
Kfar Saba, Israel

Researching
VELER/WELLER & SARFINOVICH/SHARFINOWITZ Linkuva/Kupiskis,Lithuania; CINDEL/TSINDEL
Kupiskis, Lithuania; LEVIN Rokiskis/Kupiskis, Lithuania;PICK/PINK/PEEK Birz,
Lithuania; DIAMOND / ORELASKY Siluva, Lithuania; DRUKER/PENN Dvinsk, Latvia;
HIRSCHSOHN / LEVENBERG / LEVINSOHN / MANDELSTAMM Kuldiga/Pilten/Liepaja, Latvia;
KALMEK/KALMANOVICH Rokiskis/Druyah, Lithuania; Braslav, Belarus; Dvinsk, Latvia;
NYMAN/NEIMAN Poland; PEERUTIN/PIRUTIN Kraslava/Dvinsk, Latvia; Vitebsk, Belarus


IAJGS Conference/The Forward #general

Joy Rich <joyrichny@...>
 

The Forward published an article about the upcoming IAJGS Conference on April
14th. The link to a PDF of it in
Yiddish is at http://www.jgsny2006.org/in_the_news.cfm. An English-language
translation of it by Gloria Berkenstat Freund, Program Committee Chairperson,
is at http://www.jgsny2006.org/in_the_news_trans.cfm.

Joy

Joy Rich
Co-chair, Repositories Committee
International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies
26th Annual Conference on Jewish Genealogy
New York City August 13-18, 2006


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen IAJGS Conference/The Forward #general

Joy Rich <joyrichny@...>
 

The Forward published an article about the upcoming IAJGS Conference on April
14th. The link to a PDF of it in
Yiddish is at http://www.jgsny2006.org/in_the_news.cfm. An English-language
translation of it by Gloria Berkenstat Freund, Program Committee Chairperson,
is at http://www.jgsny2006.org/in_the_news_trans.cfm.

Joy

Joy Rich
Co-chair, Repositories Committee
International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies
26th Annual Conference on Jewish Genealogy
New York City August 13-18, 2006


Re: Klonimus Kalman #general

Matt <matt@...>
 

I have tried to find a documented link to the Kalonymus/Klonimus
origin, but have been unsuccessful. My great grandfather was a
Kalmanowitz, born in Vilna, Poland, and my father changed the name to
Kalman.

If anyone has found a direct link between these lines, I would love to
hear about it.

Matthew Kalman (matt@kalman.net)

On 27 Apr 2006 07:05:28 -0700, SKatz@ebglaw.com (Shlomo Katz) wrote:

The name Klonimus is found among 9th century Italian Jews. A leading
Italian family in which the name Klonimus was common migrated to France
in the 10th century. (This family incidentally authored much of the
High Holiday liturgy.) As Jews migrated >from France to Eastern Europe,
the name went with them. I have Klonimuses and Kalmans among my Italian
ancestors, my French ancestors, my Galician (Austrian) ancestors and my
Hungarian cousins. In short, it is an ancient and not unusual
Ashkenazic name, not a Hungarian name.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Klonimus Kalman #general

Matt <matt@...>
 

I have tried to find a documented link to the Kalonymus/Klonimus
origin, but have been unsuccessful. My great grandfather was a
Kalmanowitz, born in Vilna, Poland, and my father changed the name to
Kalman.

If anyone has found a direct link between these lines, I would love to
hear about it.

Matthew Kalman (matt@kalman.net)

On 27 Apr 2006 07:05:28 -0700, SKatz@ebglaw.com (Shlomo Katz) wrote:

The name Klonimus is found among 9th century Italian Jews. A leading
Italian family in which the name Klonimus was common migrated to France
in the 10th century. (This family incidentally authored much of the
High Holiday liturgy.) As Jews migrated >from France to Eastern Europe,
the name went with them. I have Klonimuses and Kalmans among my Italian
ancestors, my French ancestors, my Galician (Austrian) ancestors and my
Hungarian cousins. In short, it is an ancient and not unusual
Ashkenazic name, not a Hungarian name.