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Hungarian Help Needed #hungary

Sam Schleman <Samara99@...>
 

Hello all;

from time to time, in the course of transcribing Hungarian Vital records, we
come across a notation in Hungarian that may be important to the way we
transcribe the record.

I am hoping a few of you would be willing to help out on an occasional basis
when we encounter something like this. If so, I would send the a copy of the
image, or at least that part with the notation, so that you could translate.
I would prefer that you have broadband/hi-speed internet access, so that if
I need to send you one or two images, your download time will not be very
much.

Please reply to me directly.

Thank you.

Sam Schleman
Project Coordinator
Hungarian Vital Records
Malvern, PA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Hungarian Help Needed #hungary

Sam Schleman <Samara99@...>
 

Hello all;

from time to time, in the course of transcribing Hungarian Vital records, we
come across a notation in Hungarian that may be important to the way we
transcribe the record.

I am hoping a few of you would be willing to help out on an occasional basis
when we encounter something like this. If so, I would send the a copy of the
image, or at least that part with the notation, so that you could translate.
I would prefer that you have broadband/hi-speed internet access, so that if
I need to send you one or two images, your download time will not be very
much.

Please reply to me directly.

Thank you.

Sam Schleman
Project Coordinator
Hungarian Vital Records
Malvern, PA


Re: Looking for a book #austria-czech

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
 

Dear Tom,
I used to live in Pittsburgh and I still have connections there, so if no
one else can help, I can e-mail to my friends in Pittsburgh to get you the
info.There is a Jewish Genealogical Society in Pittsburgh that could
possibly get your the info before me!
Shabbat shalom
Ida

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Venetianer [mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:36 AM
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] Looking for a book


Dear friends,

If any of you has access to the book below, please get in touch off list.
Many thanks in advance.

Tom

The Slovaks and the Pittsburgh Pact.
published by the Slovak Catholic Federation of America, 1934
--
...........................................
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Looking for a book #hungary

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
 

Dear Tom,
I used to live in Pittsburgh and I still have connections there, so if no
one else can help, I can e-mail to my friends in Pittsburgh to get you the
info.There is a Jewish Genealogical Society in Pittsburgh that could
possibly get your the info before me!
Shabbat shalom
Ida

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Venetianer [mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:36 AM
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] Looking for a book


Dear friends,

If any of you has access to the book below, please get in touch off list.
Many thanks in advance.

Tom

The Slovaks and the Pittsburgh Pact.
published by the Slovak Catholic Federation of America, 1934
--
...........................................
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Re: NYC Death Certificate & Online Research (was RE: Shimson Shmuel Frischman buried somewhere in NYC) #general

HJB <hjb@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Elise Friedman" <elisejg@comcast.net>

A similar process to the above can be used for NYC marriage records through
1937. Use the databases on the Italiangen/Germangen/stevemorse.org site to
search for a marriage record for your family, then obtain a copy using one
of the 5 options above.
Thanks to Elise for providing a very complete listing of how one can search
these records. I was not previously aware the single records can be ordered
from the Family History Library. I've saved the form for future use.
As I get ready for the summer conference and specific research I want to do
while in NYC, I've been going through my family data in the hope of IDing
marriages so far unknown to us. Although the Groom's index is said to be
fairly complete, there are several of the lads I've been unable to find
including my own father. I did find my mother although the date given is a
year off the date I'd been told. I found this same scenario for another
family member.

I wanted to mention that what I've also done which sometimes finds me the
spouse is to use the certificate number to search. For whatever reason,
this sometimes produces a match which clicking on bride or groom on the
results obtained using Steve Morse's site did not. If you're determined and
try all possible routes you may have more success. Of course for the
earlier liaisons which took place in Manhattan you're out of luck unless you
find the groom.

Best of luck to all with their searches,

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Konyushki & Zurow, Galicia, NYC;
STARK - Bobrka, Galicia, NYC; BELY - Rzeszow, Galicia;
MONDSCHEIN - Brod, Galicia;
SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY - Belchatow & Lodz, Poland, NYC;
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland, NYC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: NYC Death Certificate & Online Research (was RE: Shimson Shmuel Frischman buried somewhere in NYC) #general

HJB <hjb@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Elise Friedman" <elisejg@comcast.net>

A similar process to the above can be used for NYC marriage records through
1937. Use the databases on the Italiangen/Germangen/stevemorse.org site to
search for a marriage record for your family, then obtain a copy using one
of the 5 options above.
Thanks to Elise for providing a very complete listing of how one can search
these records. I was not previously aware the single records can be ordered
from the Family History Library. I've saved the form for future use.
As I get ready for the summer conference and specific research I want to do
while in NYC, I've been going through my family data in the hope of IDing
marriages so far unknown to us. Although the Groom's index is said to be
fairly complete, there are several of the lads I've been unable to find
including my own father. I did find my mother although the date given is a
year off the date I'd been told. I found this same scenario for another
family member.

I wanted to mention that what I've also done which sometimes finds me the
spouse is to use the certificate number to search. For whatever reason,
this sometimes produces a match which clicking on bride or groom on the
results obtained using Steve Morse's site did not. If you're determined and
try all possible routes you may have more success. Of course for the
earlier liaisons which took place in Manhattan you're out of luck unless you
find the groom.

Best of luck to all with their searches,

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Konyushki & Zurow, Galicia, NYC;
STARK - Bobrka, Galicia, NYC; BELY - Rzeszow, Galicia;
MONDSCHEIN - Brod, Galicia;
SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY - Belchatow & Lodz, Poland, NYC;
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland, NYC


DUBIN/ZIVIK from Kobrin #general

Elise
 

I found a tree with a DUBIN/ZIVIK family >from Kobrin on a popular commercial
genealogy website. Unfortunately, the owner of the tree is listed as
Unknown.

There are several DUBIN entries in the JGFF for the Kobrin region, but I'm
fairly sure I've been in contact with those people already. There are no
ZIVIK entries in the JGFF.

If this is your family, would you please contact me privately? I'm also
researching DUBIN >from Kobrin and am trying to connect this DUBIN/ZIVIK
family to mine.

Thanks,

Elise Friedman
Baltimore, Maryland

KMIOTEK/FRIEDMAN/LEWIS, SCHENDEROWITZ, EMBER (Makow Maz./Przasnysz, Poland);
EISNER, TAUB, WAHRHAFTIG, TUNIS, SONNE (Myszkowice/Tarnopol, Ukraine);
MILLER/MEHLER, TAUB (Byblo/Staryy Sambor/Nizankowice/Dobromil, Ukraine);
PALEVSKY, POLLACK, DUBIN, DAITCH, SAPIR (Horodetz/Kobryn, Belarus);
LIFSHITZ, CHARLAS/KHARLAS/KALLISH (Brest-Litovsk/Antopol, Belarus);
CHESIN, EHUDIN (Mstislavl, Belarus); CHERNOCK, EPSTEIN (Novozybkov, Russia)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen DUBIN/ZIVIK from Kobrin #general

Elise
 

I found a tree with a DUBIN/ZIVIK family >from Kobrin on a popular commercial
genealogy website. Unfortunately, the owner of the tree is listed as
Unknown.

There are several DUBIN entries in the JGFF for the Kobrin region, but I'm
fairly sure I've been in contact with those people already. There are no
ZIVIK entries in the JGFF.

If this is your family, would you please contact me privately? I'm also
researching DUBIN >from Kobrin and am trying to connect this DUBIN/ZIVIK
family to mine.

Thanks,

Elise Friedman
Baltimore, Maryland

KMIOTEK/FRIEDMAN/LEWIS, SCHENDEROWITZ, EMBER (Makow Maz./Przasnysz, Poland);
EISNER, TAUB, WAHRHAFTIG, TUNIS, SONNE (Myszkowice/Tarnopol, Ukraine);
MILLER/MEHLER, TAUB (Byblo/Staryy Sambor/Nizankowice/Dobromil, Ukraine);
PALEVSKY, POLLACK, DUBIN, DAITCH, SAPIR (Horodetz/Kobryn, Belarus);
LIFSHITZ, CHARLAS/KHARLAS/KALLISH (Brest-Litovsk/Antopol, Belarus);
CHESIN, EHUDIN (Mstislavl, Belarus); CHERNOCK, EPSTEIN (Novozybkov, Russia)


Searching family names need help! #romania

Debbie Jurblum <debbie_jurblum@...>
 

Dear Genners,
My name is Debbie JURBLUM and I have been researching my family tree for
many years, seriously for the last five yet I am a novice.
My family tree consists of around 600 people and all have been found by word
of mouth except for about ten people which I have just recently found on
Jewish Gen. They are my first discoveries! I have recently been to Israel
and in touch with family I have never met before! Did some research in Yad
Vashem and Beit Hatefutsot but had no luck there. Just not enough time!
I will be at the New York Conference. I was hoping that there might be
others at the conference and also members of the SIG groups who may also be
looking for my families. The Paternal sides of the families are the hardest
I would have thought that they would be easier due to surnames!
My family names and towns are;
RECHTSCHAFFNER, SWARTZBARD, REISS (Lwow, Lyon )
FEIWEL, MILROM, WEKER, MELER, SPERGEL, SCHRAEGER, (Sokol, Tartakow, Lwow)
UNGER (Germany, Gurs / Escou France)
WEISS, WOLFMANN,TEICHTAHL, (Lubavetcher WEISS in Switzerland, Bielsko
Biala, Zacopagnya/zacopane(Czech side of Poland?) , Bendzin,Osweinim,
Jureno/ Juryno USSR)
DRUCK/ER, MEISELMAN (Kuty,Romania)
JURBLUM, ZYLBERBERG/SYLBERBERG/SILBERBERG(Warsaw)
DOBROWODKIER (Chelm)
If you have any information on any of these families I would love to hear
from you.
from Debbie JURBLUM nee WEISS Melbourne Australia debbiejurblum@gmail.com
Please respond privately.


Romania SIG #Romania Searching family names need help! #romania

Debbie Jurblum <debbie_jurblum@...>
 

Dear Genners,
My name is Debbie JURBLUM and I have been researching my family tree for
many years, seriously for the last five yet I am a novice.
My family tree consists of around 600 people and all have been found by word
of mouth except for about ten people which I have just recently found on
Jewish Gen. They are my first discoveries! I have recently been to Israel
and in touch with family I have never met before! Did some research in Yad
Vashem and Beit Hatefutsot but had no luck there. Just not enough time!
I will be at the New York Conference. I was hoping that there might be
others at the conference and also members of the SIG groups who may also be
looking for my families. The Paternal sides of the families are the hardest
I would have thought that they would be easier due to surnames!
My family names and towns are;
RECHTSCHAFFNER, SWARTZBARD, REISS (Lwow, Lyon )
FEIWEL, MILROM, WEKER, MELER, SPERGEL, SCHRAEGER, (Sokol, Tartakow, Lwow)
UNGER (Germany, Gurs / Escou France)
WEISS, WOLFMANN,TEICHTAHL, (Lubavetcher WEISS in Switzerland, Bielsko
Biala, Zacopagnya/zacopane(Czech side of Poland?) , Bendzin,Osweinim,
Jureno/ Juryno USSR)
DRUCK/ER, MEISELMAN (Kuty,Romania)
JURBLUM, ZYLBERBERG/SYLBERBERG/SILBERBERG(Warsaw)
DOBROWODKIER (Chelm)
If you have any information on any of these families I would love to hear
from you.
from Debbie JURBLUM nee WEISS Melbourne Australia debbiejurblum@gmail.com
Please respond privately.


INTRO - Searching family names need help! #germany

Debbie Jurblum <debbie_jurblum@...>
 

Dear Genners,
My name is Debbie Jurblum and I have been researching my family tree for
many years, seriously for the last five yet I am a novice.
My family tree consists of around 600 people and all have been found by word
of mouth except for about ten people which I have just recently found on
Jewish Gen. They are my first discoveries! I have recently been to Israel
and in touch with family I have never met before! Did some research in Yad
Vashem and Beit Hatefutsot but had no luck there. Just not enough time!
I will be at the New York Conference. I was hoping that there might be
others at the conference and also members of the SIG groups who may also be
looking for my families. The Paternal sides of the families are the hardest
I would have thought that they would be easier due to surnames!
My family names and towns are;
RECHTSCHAFFNER, SWARTZBARD, REISS (Lwow, Lyon )
FEIWEL, MILROM, WEKER, MELER, SPERGEL, SCHRAEGER, (Sokol, Tartakow, Lwow)
UNGER (Germany, Gurs / Escou France)
WEISS, WOLFMANN,TEICHTAHL, (Lubavetcher WEISS in Switzerland, Bielsko
Biala, Zacopagnya/zacopane(Czech side of Poland?) If you have any information
on any of these families I would love to hear >from you. Please respond privately.

Debbie Jurblum nee Weiss Melbourne Australia debbiejurblum@gmail.com


German SIG #Germany INTRO - Searching family names need help! #germany

Debbie Jurblum <debbie_jurblum@...>
 

Dear Genners,
My name is Debbie Jurblum and I have been researching my family tree for
many years, seriously for the last five yet I am a novice.
My family tree consists of around 600 people and all have been found by word
of mouth except for about ten people which I have just recently found on
Jewish Gen. They are my first discoveries! I have recently been to Israel
and in touch with family I have never met before! Did some research in Yad
Vashem and Beit Hatefutsot but had no luck there. Just not enough time!
I will be at the New York Conference. I was hoping that there might be
others at the conference and also members of the SIG groups who may also be
looking for my families. The Paternal sides of the families are the hardest
I would have thought that they would be easier due to surnames!
My family names and towns are;
RECHTSCHAFFNER, SWARTZBARD, REISS (Lwow, Lyon )
FEIWEL, MILROM, WEKER, MELER, SPERGEL, SCHRAEGER, (Sokol, Tartakow, Lwow)
UNGER (Germany, Gurs / Escou France)
WEISS, WOLFMANN,TEICHTAHL, (Lubavetcher WEISS in Switzerland, Bielsko
Biala, Zacopagnya/zacopane(Czech side of Poland?) If you have any information
on any of these families I would love to hear >from you. Please respond privately.

Debbie Jurblum nee Weiss Melbourne Australia debbiejurblum@gmail.com


Names #germany

Bob Weinberg <weinberg@...>
 

[None of the prior responses mentioned that the Sephardic tradition does ** not **
forbid naming a child after a living relative. MOD 1 ]

I have been reading the correspondence about giving the children
names of close relatives who are still living. The fact is that is
has been an Ashkenazic custom for a very long time to avoid naming a
newborn after a still-living close relative, but among the Sephardim
this practice does not exist. None of this is related in any way to
the customs of adopting family names, which were a relatively recent
(early 19th century) adaptation to government decrees in Central and
Eastern Europe. (Because father's first names were sometimes made into
fixed family names, and because of this naming of newborns after
recently departed family members, there were in 19th century Germany
Jews with names like Alexander Alexander, Phillip Phillip, and Moses Moses.)

Bob Weinberg Brookline MA <weinberg@wi.mit.edu>


German SIG #Germany Names #germany

Bob Weinberg <weinberg@...>
 

[None of the prior responses mentioned that the Sephardic tradition does ** not **
forbid naming a child after a living relative. MOD 1 ]

I have been reading the correspondence about giving the children
names of close relatives who are still living. The fact is that is
has been an Ashkenazic custom for a very long time to avoid naming a
newborn after a still-living close relative, but among the Sephardim
this practice does not exist. None of this is related in any way to
the customs of adopting family names, which were a relatively recent
(early 19th century) adaptation to government decrees in Central and
Eastern Europe. (Because father's first names were sometimes made into
fixed family names, and because of this naming of newborns after
recently departed family members, there were in 19th century Germany
Jews with names like Alexander Alexander, Phillip Phillip, and Moses Moses.)

Bob Weinberg Brookline MA <weinberg@wi.mit.edu>


response to: Fathers and sons having same first names #germany

IreneFred@...
 

I am also familiar that it is our custom not to name a child after a
living relative. In our family there is one instance during the 1800's
in which a son was named after his father. This occurred when the
father passed away before the son was born. The mother then named the
child after the father.

Fred Einstein New Jersey IreneFred@aol.com

MODERATOR NOTE: This discussion is now closed in the GerSIG Forum.


German SIG #Germany response to: Fathers and sons having same first names #germany

IreneFred@...
 

I am also familiar that it is our custom not to name a child after a
living relative. In our family there is one instance during the 1800's
in which a son was named after his father. This occurred when the
father passed away before the son was born. The mother then named the
child after the father.

Fred Einstein New Jersey IreneFred@aol.com

MODERATOR NOTE: This discussion is now closed in the GerSIG Forum.


Another [basic] Question on naming #germany

Daniel Kester <djkester@...>
 

MODERATOR NOTE: The following is a very basic question. It has been discussed
many times in this forum and it is addressed in Warren Blatt's "FAQ", a basic
guide to Jewish Genealogy research easily found via the JewishGen Home Page.

All replies to the following question should be sent *** both *** to the list
and also to <djkester@adelphia.net> privately. The Moderator will not approve
replies that don't cite important published sources on the subject. Exception
will be made for any reply that is so comprehensive and clearly written that
it could be added to the GerSIG website so that future inquiries of this kind
can be directed to the document.

For the Nth time, I call attention of all Jewish Genealogy beginners to the
basic source for Jewish Naming information:
Benzion Kaganoff's "A Dictionary of Jewish Names and Their Histories"
(New Jersey: Jason Aronson, Inc, 1996).
Later books discuss Jewish Names in more detail and with more specific focus but
Kaganoff seems the ideal source for answers to basic questions like those posed
by Mr. Kester.

I used a major Web Search Engine to grab the correct citation for the Kaganoff
book. I was directed to a booklist >from the JGS of Toronto which can be
easily printed as a good ***basic*** bibliography on Jewish Genealogy:
http://www.jgstoronto.ca/Books.doc MODERATOR 1 ============>

Thanks to everyone who responded to my question >from yesterday
regarding fathers and sons having the same name.
Here's another one: In the pre-family name days (i.e. before ~1800)
when names still had the "Isaac ben Abraham" form, how did it work
with Levites and Kohanim? Were "Levi" and "Kohen" part of the name? Thanks.

Daniel Kester Buffalo, NY, USA djkester@adelphia.net


German SIG #Germany Another [basic] Question on naming #germany

Daniel Kester <djkester@...>
 

MODERATOR NOTE: The following is a very basic question. It has been discussed
many times in this forum and it is addressed in Warren Blatt's "FAQ", a basic
guide to Jewish Genealogy research easily found via the JewishGen Home Page.

All replies to the following question should be sent *** both *** to the list
and also to <djkester@adelphia.net> privately. The Moderator will not approve
replies that don't cite important published sources on the subject. Exception
will be made for any reply that is so comprehensive and clearly written that
it could be added to the GerSIG website so that future inquiries of this kind
can be directed to the document.

For the Nth time, I call attention of all Jewish Genealogy beginners to the
basic source for Jewish Naming information:
Benzion Kaganoff's "A Dictionary of Jewish Names and Their Histories"
(New Jersey: Jason Aronson, Inc, 1996).
Later books discuss Jewish Names in more detail and with more specific focus but
Kaganoff seems the ideal source for answers to basic questions like those posed
by Mr. Kester.

I used a major Web Search Engine to grab the correct citation for the Kaganoff
book. I was directed to a booklist >from the JGS of Toronto which can be
easily printed as a good ***basic*** bibliography on Jewish Genealogy:
http://www.jgstoronto.ca/Books.doc MODERATOR 1 ============>

Thanks to everyone who responded to my question >from yesterday
regarding fathers and sons having the same name.
Here's another one: In the pre-family name days (i.e. before ~1800)
when names still had the "Isaac ben Abraham" form, how did it work
with Levites and Kohanim? Were "Levi" and "Kohen" part of the name? Thanks.

Daniel Kester Buffalo, NY, USA djkester@adelphia.net


Re: jcr-uk digest: May 26, 2006 #unitedkingdom

Adele Lester <alester@...>
 

"JCR-UK SIG" <jcr-uk@lyris.jewishgen.org> writes:
I have heard the story of the police
visiting houses where aliens lived prior to the Second World War. W
My grandfather, an unnaturalized resident of London since 1908, was
"rounded-up" while reading the Polish newspapers in Whitechapel Library
at some time during this period. He was taken somewhere in Seven Oaks,
Kent
(accordingy to my late father) and held there for two weeks before being
released back to the east end. Does anyone have any idea what kind of
facility this was in Seven Oaks?

Adele SCHLAZER Lester
Riverdale, New York (formerly London)
Researching:
SCHLAZER/SZLJAZJER/SZLJAHCIC - Pultusk/Obryte/Wyszkow/London/NY
BERNSTEIN/BORENSTEJN/BURSTEIN - Wyszkow/Pultusk/London/Chicago
DZENKIEWICZ/PUZNIAK/CWAJG - Pultusk/Wyszkow area
GOLDMAN/VICTOR(OVITCH) - London & Warsaw area
SCHILLER - London & Poland


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: jcr-uk digest: May 26, 2006 #unitedkingdom

Adele Lester <alester@...>
 

"JCR-UK SIG" <jcr-uk@lyris.jewishgen.org> writes:
I have heard the story of the police
visiting houses where aliens lived prior to the Second World War. W
My grandfather, an unnaturalized resident of London since 1908, was
"rounded-up" while reading the Polish newspapers in Whitechapel Library
at some time during this period. He was taken somewhere in Seven Oaks,
Kent
(accordingy to my late father) and held there for two weeks before being
released back to the east end. Does anyone have any idea what kind of
facility this was in Seven Oaks?

Adele SCHLAZER Lester
Riverdale, New York (formerly London)
Researching:
SCHLAZER/SZLJAZJER/SZLJAHCIC - Pultusk/Obryte/Wyszkow/London/NY
BERNSTEIN/BORENSTEJN/BURSTEIN - Wyszkow/Pultusk/London/Chicago
DZENKIEWICZ/PUZNIAK/CWAJG - Pultusk/Wyszkow area
GOLDMAN/VICTOR(OVITCH) - London & Warsaw area
SCHILLER - London & Poland