I am searching back through my Great grandparents Joseph and Mollie
COOPERSTEIN, who emigrated to New York about 1900 with four children >from
Lviv/Dobromil, Ukraine/Poland. I have found some records that think are
the right people. Joseph and Mollie show up in the 1910 and 1920 US
Census so I think they are correct. I'm guessing about the European
connection, though based on their children's names and their ages, I think
they are right. I'd any information to confirm or add to this, and/or
find out more about my ancestors so I can piece together the story of
their lives.


Josel (b 1801 d. 1855) & Golde Kiperstein Lviv Great great great

Nachmen (b. 1846 d. ) & Chane Chule Kuperstein Lviv Great great

Gdalje Joseph/Jo'zef (b. 1868 Lviv d. 1934 NY) &
Malka/Mollie (d. 1958 NY) Great grandparents

Mendel (b. 1894 Lviv d. 1897 Lviv)

Abraham Izak (b. 1896 Lviv d. 1967? NY) Eva
Berkowitz (b. 1888 NY, d. 1987? NY) Grandparents

Mojz*esz/Morris (b. 1898 Lviv d.?)

Anna (b. 1903? NY, d. ?)

Ruth (b. 1906? NY, d. ?)

Richard Cooperstein

Signed by Moderator (Please remember to sign your full name and location)

I am searching back through my Great grandparents Joseph and Mollie
COOPERSTEIN, who emigrated to New York about 1900 with four children >from
Lviv/Dobromil, Ukraine/Poland. I have found some records that think are
the right people. Joseph and Mollie show up in the 1910 and 1920 US
Census so I think they are correct. I'm guessing about the European
connection, though based on their children's names and their ages, I think
they are right. I'd any information to confirm or add to this, and/or
find out more about my ancestors so I can piece together the story of
their lives.


Josel (b 1801 d. 1855) & Golde Kiperstein Lviv Great great great

Nachmen (b. 1846 d. ) & Chane Chule Kuperstein Lviv Great great

Gdalje Joseph/Jo'zef (b. 1868 Lviv d. 1934 NY) &
Malka/Mollie (d. 1958 NY) Great grandparents

Mendel (b. 1894 Lviv d. 1897 Lviv)

Abraham Izak (b. 1896 Lviv d. 1967? NY) Eva
Berkowitz (b. 1888 NY, d. 1987? NY) Grandparents

Mojz*esz/Morris (b. 1898 Lviv d.?)

Anna (b. 1903? NY, d. ?)

Ruth (b. 1906? NY, d. ?)

Richard Cooperstein

Signed by Moderator (Please remember to sign your full name and location)

Dear Genners,

I have recently acquired birth certificates of twin brothers of my
grandfather - these twins were a complete bolt out of the blue, none in the
family had ever heard about them, perhaps 'you' have?

February 21st 1880 - Birth of Hascal KATI (CATZ/KATZ) according to different
documentation - and Solomon - children of Haim KATZ and his wife Hana - 160
Darmanesti Street, Piatra Neamt, Romania.
My grandfather - Froim - was born in Darmanesti Street in 1885.

It also transpires that Hascal married someone called Blima (I have no
maiden name) and they had a son Smil on December 10th 1907 - 40 Cogalniceanu
Street, Piatra Neamt.

In an article on Piatra Neamt I find that a Hascal CATZ in 1942 was on the
Jewish organizing committee of Piatra Neamt - could this be the same person?

My grandfather had other siblings, descendants of whom, over the years, I
have been able trace, now up pops another challenge - coupled with the fact
that I have also just been informed that there was another sibling called
Sophie, who never married - I have been given her photo too.

If there are any Katz' who know they originated >from Piatra Neamt who have
heard of the above people - know of their descendants, especially of Smil,
or would like to see the photograph of Sophie if it would help in any way to
find familial likeness, please do contact me.

I also hold details of Burach Catz - wife Mariam and their children, Piatra
Neamt, if anyone wishes to have details I would be happy to forward the
information. I will say that one of their children Adela born in 1906
married in 1946 a Mr. S. Theiler, she died in 1986. Perhaps they are related
to my family, as yet I have no way of proving such.

Thank you.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)

Do any of you know of any Jews living in Kirovograd
(formerly Elizavetgrad / Yelisabetgrad) who can read
English? I am hoping to find a local penpal to email
with. There appears to be a significant Jewish
community in Kirovograd and a musuem at the synogogue.
I find lots of news reports online, but the link to
email the local Chabad rabbi is dead.

Ray Cannata
New Orleans, LA

DASHEVSKY / DASHEWSKY, FULNEROW / FELZEROW, POBER /
POBERESKY / POBERJESKY, RUBEL, SIEBEL / TSIBULEVSKY /
SIEBELEWSKY, GUMBERG, BONOFF, TROTSKY of Elizavetgrad
(Kirovograd), Kherson, Ukraine
BRAVER, LIFSITZ / LIPSHITZ, KIRSCHNER / KIRSHNER /
KIRZNER of Orlya / Orla, Grodno, Belarus

Dear Genners,

I have recently acquired birth certificates of twin brothers of my
grandfather - these twins were a complete bolt out of the blue, none in the
family had ever heard about them, perhaps 'you' have?

February 21st 1880 - Birth of Hascal KATI (CATZ/KATZ) according to different
documentation - and Solomon - children of Haim KATZ and his wife Hana - 160
Darmanesti Street, Piatra Neamt, Romania.
My grandfather - Froim - was born in Darmanesti Street in 1885.

It also transpires that Hascal married someone called Blima (I have no
maiden name) and they had a son Smil on December 10th 1907 - 40 Cogalniceanu
Street, Piatra Neamt.

In an article on Piatra Neamt I find that a Hascal CATZ in 1942 was on the
Jewish organizing committee of Piatra Neamt - could this be the same person?

My grandfather had other siblings, descendants of whom, over the years, I
have been able trace, now up pops another challenge - coupled with the fact
that I have also just been informed that there was another sibling called
Sophie, who never married - I have been given her photo too.

If there are any Katz' who know they originated >from Piatra Neamt who have
heard of the above people - know of their descendants, especially of Smil,
or would like to see the photograph of Sophie if it would help in any way to
find familial likeness, please do contact me.

I also hold details of Burach Catz - wife Mariam and their children, Piatra
Neamt, if anyone wishes to have details I would be happy to forward the
information. I will say that one of their children Adela born in 1906
married in 1946 a Mr. S. Theiler, she died in 1986. Perhaps they are related
to my family, as yet I have no way of proving such.

Thank you.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)

Do any of you know of any Jews living in Kirovograd
(formerly Elizavetgrad / Yelisabetgrad) who can read
English? I am hoping to find a local penpal to email
with. There appears to be a significant Jewish
community in Kirovograd and a musuem at the synogogue.
I find lots of news reports online, but the link to
email the local Chabad rabbi is dead.

Ray Cannata
New Orleans, LA

DASHEVSKY / DASHEWSKY, FULNEROW / FELZEROW, POBER /
POBERESKY / POBERJESKY, RUBEL, SIEBEL / TSIBULEVSKY /
SIEBELEWSKY, GUMBERG, BONOFF, TROTSKY of Elizavetgrad
(Kirovograd), Kherson, Ukraine
BRAVER, LIFSITZ / LIPSHITZ, KIRSCHNER / KIRSHNER /
KIRZNER of Orlya / Orla, Grodno, Belarus

"Robert Corwin" wrote

I could use some help with my detective work.

My paternal grandmother's family, named ARONSON, was said to be from
Kalvrie. The family is listed on various certificates as coming >from
Russia or Poland/Russia around 1882.

Using Shtetyl Seeker, I came up with these possibilities:

"Kalivere, Kallivere, Kalliver" is in Russia, 433.7 miles NW of Moskva.
Too far >from Poland.

I see listings for two separate towns named "Kalvaria" both quite far
south in Hungary. I figure these would clearly be in the Austrian Empire,
not Poland/Russia.

"Kalwaria, Kalwarja Pacawska, Kalwaria Pacawska" is in Poland, about 10mi.
SSE of Prezmysl. Sounds like a possibility to me. But Prezmysl was part
of the Kingdom of Hungary until after World War II, according to my
historical atlas. Then it became part of Poland, but not the Soviet
Union.

"Kalwaria, Kalwarja Zebrydowska, Kalwarja, Kalwaria Zebrzydowska" is in
Poland, about 15 mi. SW of Kracow.

Looking at my historical atlas, I see that "Crakow" was part of the "Grand
Duchy of Warsaw" in 1812. An 1815 to 1839 Congress of Vienna map shows an
independent "Republic of Krakow". A mid-century map notes "Republic of
Krakow to Austria, 1846." Only after World War I does Krakow seem to
become a part of Poland.

The family is listed as being >from Russia on both the 1900 Census and
a 1905 marriage certificate, both before WWI, and before the two towns
named "Kalwaria" became part of Poland. Neither appear to have been part
of the Russian Empire.

Any thoughts?

Kalvarija (also known as Kalwarja) is located in Lithuania at 5424 2314, few
miles distance >from Polish border. You could discover it by searching entries in
JGFF database.
Another, "smaller" Kalvarija, is known nowadays as Zemaiciu Kalvarija is also
located in Lithuania at 5607 2201.

Both towns were part of the Russian Empire.

I am a bit suprised about the revelation found in your historical atlas, that
"town Przemysl was part of the Kingdom of Hungary until after World War II".
Przemysl indeed was once part of Kingdom of Hungary under the rule of King
Louis I, but this event took place >from 1370 till 1382, obviously not "until
after WWII".

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab, Canada

"Robert Corwin" wrote

I could use some help with my detective work.

My paternal grandmother's family, named ARONSON, was said to be from
Kalvrie. The family is listed on various certificates as coming >from
Russia or Poland/Russia around 1882.

Using Shtetyl Seeker, I came up with these possibilities:

"Kalivere, Kallivere, Kalliver" is in Russia, 433.7 miles NW of Moskva.
Too far >from Poland.

I see listings for two separate towns named "Kalvaria" both quite far
south in Hungary. I figure these would clearly be in the Austrian Empire,
not Poland/Russia.

"Kalwaria, Kalwarja Pacawska, Kalwaria Pacawska" is in Poland, about 10mi.
SSE of Prezmysl. Sounds like a possibility to me. But Prezmysl was part
of the Kingdom of Hungary until after World War II, according to my
historical atlas. Then it became part of Poland, but not the Soviet
Union.

"Kalwaria, Kalwarja Zebrydowska, Kalwarja, Kalwaria Zebrzydowska" is in
Poland, about 15 mi. SW of Kracow.

Looking at my historical atlas, I see that "Crakow" was part of the "Grand
Duchy of Warsaw" in 1812. An 1815 to 1839 Congress of Vienna map shows an
independent "Republic of Krakow". A mid-century map notes "Republic of
Krakow to Austria, 1846." Only after World War I does Krakow seem to
become a part of Poland.

The family is listed as being >from Russia on both the 1900 Census and
a 1905 marriage certificate, both before WWI, and before the two towns
named "Kalwaria" became part of Poland. Neither appear to have been part
of the Russian Empire.

Any thoughts?

Kalvarija (also known as Kalwarja) is located in Lithuania at 5424 2314, few
miles distance >from Polish border. You could discover it by searching entries in
JGFF database.
Another, "smaller" Kalvarija, is known nowadays as Zemaiciu Kalvarija is also
located in Lithuania at 5607 2201.

Both towns were part of the Russian Empire.

I am a bit suprised about the revelation found in your historical atlas, that
"town Przemysl was part of the Kingdom of Hungary until after World War II".
Przemysl indeed was once part of Kingdom of Hungary under the rule of King
Louis I, but this event took place >from 1370 till 1382, obviously not "until
after WWII".

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab, Canada

Dear GerSig,
I continue to search for REPENNING line. Bert >from the Netherlands has
kindly contributed the name of Jacob Ludewig REPENNING who was born
approximately 1818-1820 in Kiel, Germany, son of Marx Ludwig REPENNING and
Dorothea Catharina LEMBEKEN. Jacob married Naatje EWALDT >from Medemblik in
1848, with the info archived in the municipality of Den Helder.. I was given
the civil register archive information, and the names of the parents of
Jacob and Naatje. No records on the [ fee based genealogy ] website
to support this. I do not know if this is part of my grandmother's line or
another family altogether. I can understand a name change upon emigration, but
wouldn't think there would have been a different name in the line that far back.

Any suggestions? Thanks,

Diane Hartman Cudo Ariel, Israel Tikvah7@netvision.net.il

Hello to you,
Stephanie Weiner <laguna@sciti.com> asks: "Therefore, I question whether
the source of the name Kalman is Hungarian, and the above suggests that
perhaps there is a connection between Kalman and Kalonymos."

My great-grandfather was named Kalman and I have the same name.
According to family lore Kalman is derived >from Klojmenes a Jewish rendering
of the Greek name Kalonymos, meaning the well or beautifully named.
There is quite some info about this name >from influent Jewish scholars in:
http://www.jewishgates.com/file.asp?File_ID=238

Clemens is derived >from the Latin Clementia, meaning generous or gentle.
The name Kaklan was quite popular in Jewish Krakow in the period after 1820
because of the famous Rabbi Kalman Epstein.

If you look for the discussion about these two names in JewishGen Discussion
Group Archives (http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~archives)
you will find interesting data >from Michael Bernet and others.
Best regards
Charles (Kalman) Mahler Antwerp
Searching MAHLER, MARGULIES, LICHTMANN, INTRATOR

Dear GerSig,
I continue to search for REPENNING line. Bert >from the Netherlands has
kindly contributed the name of Jacob Ludewig REPENNING who was born
approximately 1818-1820 in Kiel, Germany, son of Marx Ludwig REPENNING and
Dorothea Catharina LEMBEKEN. Jacob married Naatje EWALDT >from Medemblik in
1848, with the info archived in the municipality of Den Helder.. I was given
the civil register archive information, and the names of the parents of
Jacob and Naatje. No records on the [ fee based genealogy ] website
to support this. I do not know if this is part of my grandmother's line or
another family altogether. I can understand a name change upon emigration, but
wouldn't think there would have been a different name in the line that far back.

Any suggestions? Thanks,

Diane Hartman Cudo Ariel, Israel Tikvah7@netvision.net.il

Hello to you,
Stephanie Weiner <laguna@sciti.com> asks: "Therefore, I question whether
the source of the name Kalman is Hungarian, and the above suggests that
perhaps there is a connection between Kalman and Kalonymos."

My great-grandfather was named Kalman and I have the same name.
According to family lore Kalman is derived >from Klojmenes a Jewish rendering
of the Greek name Kalonymos, meaning the well or beautifully named.
There is quite some info about this name >from influent Jewish scholars in:
http://www.jewishgates.com/file.asp?File_ID=238

Clemens is derived >from the Latin Clementia, meaning generous or gentle.
The name Kaklan was quite popular in Jewish Krakow in the period after 1820
because of the famous Rabbi Kalman Epstein.

If you look for the discussion about these two names in JewishGen Discussion
Group Archives (http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~archives)
you will find interesting data >from Michael Bernet and others.
Best regards
Charles (Kalman) Mahler Antwerp
Searching MAHLER, MARGULIES, LICHTMANN, INTRATOR

Nick Landau wrote

As someone who has been involved in fighting elections, I know that when
one calls at a house, the name on the register will sometimes (not often)
be the name of the previous occupier - who in some cases might not have
been living there for quite a while. The names on the register are not
generally removed unless a form is received >from the household indicating
that a new family is living there.

The principle for electoral registration in England has not changed over the
last fifty years or so. Each summer every household is sent a registration
form by the local council which the head of the household must complete by
law. There is a qualification date which, if memory serves me correctly, is
either September 10 or October 10. The householder lists all the occupants
of the house over 18 plus any who will achieve that milestone during the
next 12 months. Clearly anyone who previously lived in the house but who has
died or moved away will *not* be listed.

This new list is available for review and correction later in the year and
becomes the voters’ list for the next 12 months in February the following year.
Contrary to what Nick states, no changes can then be made until the next process
starts the following summer. If a person moves, they must travel back to their
old location to vote and if inconvenient, they can apply for a postal vote.

As a rider, there was a way to appear twice up to the 1950s. A business
person could register at both the home address and the business address
allowing them to vote, at local elections only, twice.

If a householder fails to return a form, first a postal reminder is sent and if
that, too, is ignored there is a personal visit >from the local council. Only
if a home is empty or the occupants are not qualified to vote, will that
household fail to appear on the list. Thus it is not possible for old and
new occupants to be mixed, although there are occasions when occupants do
things wrong, deliberately and illegally. There is no form to upate the
register, mid-term, as Nick suggests.

I am sure this process is not unique to the UK, so it is perfectly feasible
for someone to live in one place but be registered many hundreds of miles
away (in my case 2,500) but only for a maximum of 15 months.

David Kravitz
Netanya, Israel

Nick Landau wrote

As someone who has been involved in fighting elections, I know that when
one calls at a house, the name on the register will sometimes (not often)
be the name of the previous occupier - who in some cases might not have
been living there for quite a while. The names on the register are not
generally removed unless a form is received >from the household indicating
that a new family is living there.

The principle for electoral registration in England has not changed over the
last fifty years or so. Each summer every household is sent a registration
form by the local council which the head of the household must complete by
law. There is a qualification date which, if memory serves me correctly, is
either September 10 or October 10. The householder lists all the occupants
of the house over 18 plus any who will achieve that milestone during the
next 12 months. Clearly anyone who previously lived in the house but who has
died or moved away will *not* be listed.

This new list is available for review and correction later in the year and
becomes the voters’ list for the next 12 months in February the following year.
Contrary to what Nick states, no changes can then be made until the next process
starts the following summer. If a person moves, they must travel back to their
old location to vote and if inconvenient, they can apply for a postal vote.

As a rider, there was a way to appear twice up to the 1950s. A business
person could register at both the home address and the business address
allowing them to vote, at local elections only, twice.

If a householder fails to return a form, first a postal reminder is sent and if
that, too, is ignored there is a personal visit >from the local council. Only
if a home is empty or the occupants are not qualified to vote, will that
household fail to appear on the list. Thus it is not possible for old and
new occupants to be mixed, although there are occasions when occupants do
things wrong, deliberately and illegally. There is no form to upate the
register, mid-term, as Nick suggests.

I am sure this process is not unique to the UK, so it is perfectly feasible
for someone to live in one place but be registered many hundreds of miles
away (in my case 2,500) but only for a maximum of 15 months.

David Kravitz
Netanya, Israel

"Ruth Hyman" <ruth.hyman@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:444D209B.E528D001@verizon.net...

I am trying somewhat fruitlessly to find a real explanation of why
someone would be registered in one town but living in another. If
someone was originally registered, for example, in Pikiliai, did he stay
on that list through all revisions until a brand new list (it seems
there were 10 all together) was made? Forever?

You don't say whether we are talking about electoral registration or a
commercial register.

I have experience both of looking for my family on commercial registers in
the 1920's and of using the electoral register in the 1970's. My experience
is in the UK, but I would have thought that the situation is comparable.

I recently looked at a commercial register in the UK for the 1920's in the
area where many members of my family had lived. The register was issued on an
annual basis and my father says that canvassers obtained the information. If I
remember correctly, at the home of one grandparent there was another name (the
previous owner/tenant?) and in the other case there was no entry for the address.
My father is in his early 80's so he is naturally fairly certain about his
family and that of my late mother.

If we update the situation to today or recently. In the UK an electoral register
is revised and issued annually, whether or not there is going to be an election
timetabled for that year - in theory, there can be a General Parliamentary
Election at any time. Also if the sitting member of the Council or Parliament
dies or resigns there can be a by-election at any time. In theory, it is an
offence not to register to vote, if one is entitled.

As someone who has been involved in fighting elections, I know that when one
calls at a house, the name on the register will sometimes (not often) be the
name of the previous occupier - who in some cases might not have been living
there for quite a while. The names on the register are not generally removed
unless a form is received >from the household indicating that a new family is
living there.

In this case the old householder will no doubt be also on the electoral register
at their new address in possibly a totally different area. They haven't
committed an offence but this is the result of the administrative decision not
to remove names unless a new form is received.

Indeed I vaguely recall a situation where there was a clean-up of the register
and names were removed >from the register where no form had been received >from
households for that year. Potential electors turned up to vote to find that
their names were no longer on the register.

My own electoral experience was 25 years ago. I have no reason to think that it
doesn't happen today (although with computers it is easier to administer) and I
would suggest that the same sort of thing happened when you are talking about.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)

"Ruth Hyman" <ruth.hyman@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:444D209B.E528D001@verizon.net...

I am trying somewhat fruitlessly to find a real explanation of why
someone would be registered in one town but living in another. If
someone was originally registered, for example, in Pikiliai, did he stay
on that list through all revisions until a brand new list (it seems
there were 10 all together) was made? Forever?

You don't say whether we are talking about electoral registration or a
commercial register.

I have experience both of looking for my family on commercial registers in
the 1920's and of using the electoral register in the 1970's. My experience
is in the UK, but I would have thought that the situation is comparable.

I recently looked at a commercial register in the UK for the 1920's in the
area where many members of my family had lived. The register was issued on an
annual basis and my father says that canvassers obtained the information. If I
remember correctly, at the home of one grandparent there was another name (the
previous owner/tenant?) and in the other case there was no entry for the address.
My father is in his early 80's so he is naturally fairly certain about his
family and that of my late mother.

If we update the situation to today or recently. In the UK an electoral register
is revised and issued annually, whether or not there is going to be an election
timetabled for that year - in theory, there can be a General Parliamentary
Election at any time. Also if the sitting member of the Council or Parliament
dies or resigns there can be a by-election at any time. In theory, it is an
offence not to register to vote, if one is entitled.

As someone who has been involved in fighting elections, I know that when one
calls at a house, the name on the register will sometimes (not often) be the
name of the previous occupier - who in some cases might not have been living
there for quite a while. The names on the register are not generally removed
unless a form is received >from the household indicating that a new family is
living there.

In this case the old householder will no doubt be also on the electoral register
at their new address in possibly a totally different area. They haven't
committed an offence but this is the result of the administrative decision not
to remove names unless a new form is received.

Indeed I vaguely recall a situation where there was a clean-up of the register
and names were removed >from the register where no form had been received >from
households for that year. Potential electors turned up to vote to find that
their names were no longer on the register.

My own electoral experience was 25 years ago. I have no reason to think that it
doesn't happen today (although with computers it is easier to administer) and I
would suggest that the same sort of thing happened when you are talking about.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)

On Friday, I wrote to GersIG to mention some of the lectures at the August
2006 International Conference on Jewish Genealogy that are of special
interest to those researching German-Jewish roots. A seventh title that
should have been on that list is

Werner L. Frank [GerSIG Cofounder and Coordinator] (Session #131)
Detection of Faults and Errors in Genealogical Sources

For a description of Werner's talk and almost 200 more programs that will
be offered at the Conference, see www.jgsny2006.org/sessions.cfm .

To register for the Conference go to www.jgsny2006.org/registration.cfm .
(Reminder: The "early-bird" deadline is May 15.) You can sign up for the
GerSIG lunch (Monday, Aug. 14) on the registration form.

To subscribe to the NY2006 Conference mailing list, follow the links at
www.jgsny2006.org/list_serve_directions.cfm .

Hope to see you at the New York Marriott Marquis in August!

Renee Stern Steinig Dix Hills, New York, USA renee@jgsny2006.org

On Friday, I wrote to GersIG to mention some of the lectures at the August
2006 International Conference on Jewish Genealogy that are of special
interest to those researching German-Jewish roots. A seventh title that
should have been on that list is

Werner L. Frank [GerSIG Cofounder and Coordinator] (Session #131)
Detection of Faults and Errors in Genealogical Sources

For a description of Werner's talk and almost 200 more programs that will
be offered at the Conference, see www.jgsny2006.org/sessions.cfm .

To register for the Conference go to www.jgsny2006.org/registration.cfm .
(Reminder: The "early-bird" deadline is May 15.) You can sign up for the
GerSIG lunch (Monday, Aug. 14) on the registration form.

To subscribe to the NY2006 Conference mailing list, follow the links at
www.jgsny2006.org/list_serve_directions.cfm .

Hope to see you at the New York Marriott Marquis in August!

Renee Stern Steinig Dix Hills, New York, USA renee@jgsny2006.org

Dear Genners,
I have recently acquired birth certificates of twin brothers of my
grandfather - these twins were a complete bolt out of the blue, none in the
family had ever heard about them, perhaps 'you' have?

February 21st 1880 - Birth of Hascal KATI (CATZ/KATZ) according to different
documentation - and Solomon - children of Haim KATZ and his wife Hana - 160
Darmanesti Street, Piatra Neamt, Romania.
My grandfather - Froim - was born in Darmanesti Street in 1885.

It also transpires that Hascal married someone called Blima (I have no
maiden name) and they had a son Smil on December 10th 1907 - 40 Cogalniceanu
Street, Piatra Neamt.

In an article on Piatra Neamt I find that a Hascal CATZ in 1942 was on the
Jewish organizing committee of Piatra Neamt - could this be the same person?

My grandfather had other siblings, descendants of whom, over the years, I
have been able trace, now up pops another challenge - coupled with the fact
that I have also just been informed that there was another sibling called
Sophie, who never married - I have been given her photo too.

If there are any Katz' who know they originated >from Piatra Neamt who have
heard of the above people - know of their descendants, especially of Smil,
or would like to see the photograph of Sophie if it would help in any way to
find familial likeness, please do contact me.

I also hold details of Burach Catz - wife Mariam and their children, Piatra
Neamt, if anyone wishes to have details I would be happy to forward the
information. I will say that one of their children Adela born in 1906
married in 1946 a Mr. S. THEILER, she died in 1986. Perhaps they are related
to my family, as yet I have no way of proving such.

Thank you.
Patricia Wilson (Israel)
MODERATOR NOTE: Of the 106 researchers of Piatra Neamt in the JGFF, 3 others are
also researching the same name.

Dear Genners,
I have recently acquired birth certificates of twin brothers of my
grandfather - these twins were a complete bolt out of the blue, none in the
family had ever heard about them, perhaps 'you' have?

February 21st 1880 - Birth of Hascal KATI (CATZ/KATZ) according to different
documentation - and Solomon - children of Haim KATZ and his wife Hana - 160
Darmanesti Street, Piatra Neamt, Romania.
My grandfather - Froim - was born in Darmanesti Street in 1885.

It also transpires that Hascal married someone called Blima (I have no
maiden name) and they had a son Smil on December 10th 1907 - 40 Cogalniceanu
Street, Piatra Neamt.

In an article on Piatra Neamt I find that a Hascal CATZ in 1942 was on the
Jewish organizing committee of Piatra Neamt - could this be the same person?

My grandfather had other siblings, descendants of whom, over the years, I
have been able trace, now up pops another challenge - coupled with the fact
that I have also just been informed that there was another sibling called
Sophie, who never married - I have been given her photo too.

If there are any Katz' who know they originated >from Piatra Neamt who have
heard of the above people - know of their descendants, especially of Smil,
or would like to see the photograph of Sophie if it would help in any way to
find familial likeness, please do contact me.

I also hold details of Burach Catz - wife Mariam and their children, Piatra
Neamt, if anyone wishes to have details I would be happy to forward the
information. I will say that one of their children Adela born in 1906
married in 1946 a Mr. S. THEILER, she died in 1986. Perhaps they are related
to my family, as yet I have no way of proving such.

Thank you.
Patricia Wilson (Israel)
MODERATOR NOTE: Of the 106 researchers of Piatra Neamt in the JGFF, 3 others are
also researching the same name.