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Israel Volenski's Wedding Certificate #general

Steve Orlen
 

Dear Cousins,

I've so far gotten a wonderful range of guesses for the "former" name of
Israel's former wife. A number of you wished I had put the whole
certificate on ViewMate, the better to compare letters. So I've uploaded
the whole document (the handwriting part only), and we'll probably get to
see it in a few days. Again, thanks for joining in!

Best, Steve Orlen
Tucson, AZ


citizenship for minors, 1960s #general

Irene Newhouse <einew@...>
 

My brother & sister were not born in the US. My mother was a naturalized
US citizen at the time of their births, but my father was not. He was
naturalized about 1960, and some time later my parents kept us home >from
school one day to take us to the courthouse so my brother & sister could be
sworn in.

Do my brother & sister have separate certificates >from my father's? My
sister has looked & hasn't been able to find any, and our late mother was
religious about filing important papers like that. Also, I don't remember
going to a photographer to have their pictures taken for it [but then, I
don't remember doing that for my father either & I have his certificate].

If they do have their own A numbers, how would one go about identifying
them?

Thanks!
Irene Newhouse
Kihei HI


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Israel Volenski's Wedding Certificate #general

Steve Orlen
 

Dear Cousins,

I've so far gotten a wonderful range of guesses for the "former" name of
Israel's former wife. A number of you wished I had put the whole
certificate on ViewMate, the better to compare letters. So I've uploaded
the whole document (the handwriting part only), and we'll probably get to
see it in a few days. Again, thanks for joining in!

Best, Steve Orlen
Tucson, AZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen citizenship for minors, 1960s #general

Irene Newhouse <einew@...>
 

My brother & sister were not born in the US. My mother was a naturalized
US citizen at the time of their births, but my father was not. He was
naturalized about 1960, and some time later my parents kept us home >from
school one day to take us to the courthouse so my brother & sister could be
sworn in.

Do my brother & sister have separate certificates >from my father's? My
sister has looked & hasn't been able to find any, and our late mother was
religious about filing important papers like that. Also, I don't remember
going to a photographer to have their pictures taken for it [but then, I
don't remember doing that for my father either & I have his certificate].

If they do have their own A numbers, how would one go about identifying
them?

Thanks!
Irene Newhouse
Kihei HI


Re: Motis-Mendl/Emanuel #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

==Let's start with a king of Israel named Menahem. Menahem
means "console" and the name is given frequently to an
infant named shortly after a death in the family, or to
someone born close to the Ninth of Av, the focus of mourning
for the destruction by the Romans of the Temple, Jerusalem
and the Jewish state in 70 CE.
How strong an indication would this be?
What Michael has said above is "frequently". "Frequently" is not
"always". To paraphrase the Immortal Sigmund, sometimes a name is just
a name.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address
is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email
form there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Motis-Mendl/Emanuel #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

==Let's start with a king of Israel named Menahem. Menahem
means "console" and the name is given frequently to an
infant named shortly after a death in the family, or to
someone born close to the Ninth of Av, the focus of mourning
for the destruction by the Romans of the Temple, Jerusalem
and the Jewish state in 70 CE.
How strong an indication would this be?
What Michael has said above is "frequently". "Frequently" is not
"always". To paraphrase the Immortal Sigmund, sometimes a name is just
a name.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address
is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email
form there.


KAHN at Waltenheim, Alsace #france

ljrooschul <ljrooschul@...>
 

I am looking for David ben Joseph KAHN >from Fürth,
'hazan at Waltenheim in 1785 ;

many thanks in advance, yours,

Eliane Roos, Paris, France


French SIG #France KAHN at Waltenheim, Alsace #france

ljrooschul <ljrooschul@...>
 

I am looking for David ben Joseph KAHN >from Fürth,
'hazan at Waltenheim in 1785 ;

many thanks in advance, yours,

Eliane Roos, Paris, France


Re: Motis-Mendl/Emanuel #general

Simon Tardell
 

MBernet@... wrote:

==Let's start with a king of Israel named Menahem. Menahem means "console"
and the name is given frequently to an infant named shortly after a death in
he family, or to someone born close to the Ninth of Av, the focus of mourning
for the destruction by the Romans of the Temple, Jerusalem and the Jewish
state in 70 CE.
How strong an indication would this be? An ancestor of mine was
"Menachem Arje" in Hebrew (as far as I know, just "Leo(n)" in day to day
use). Would this be a good reason to suspect that an elder brother, his
father or uncle (or ...) died shortly before he was born (or, that he
was born close to tisha b'av)? Or was Menachem often given as a name for
other reasons too?

Simon Tardell,
Stockholm, Sweden.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Motis-Mendl/Emanuel #general

Simon Tardell
 

MBernet@... wrote:

==Let's start with a king of Israel named Menahem. Menahem means "console"
and the name is given frequently to an infant named shortly after a death in
he family, or to someone born close to the Ninth of Av, the focus of mourning
for the destruction by the Romans of the Temple, Jerusalem and the Jewish
state in 70 CE.
How strong an indication would this be? An ancestor of mine was
"Menachem Arje" in Hebrew (as far as I know, just "Leo(n)" in day to day
use). Would this be a good reason to suspect that an elder brother, his
father or uncle (or ...) died shortly before he was born (or, that he
was born close to tisha b'av)? Or was Menachem often given as a name for
other reasons too?

Simon Tardell,
Stockholm, Sweden.


What to do when two family tree stories don't mesh? #general

Leslie Weinberg <artsoul@...>
 

I am now totally ready to throw my hands up in the air. I have been
trying to establish a line of descent through the family "Blumenberg".
My grandfather's sister married a Jonas Blumenberg, and they had three
children, one or all of whom may still be alive, and who I am
desperately trying to locate. One source put Jonas as the brother of
several siblings, including a "Ryfka", who was a *daughter* of "Leib".
Now, I have found a Blumenberg cousin, an older man, who states that *his*
mother was not a Blumenberg, but that *her* sister, Ryfka, *married* a
Blumenberg (Leib). Same names, same family, but one story disputes the
other. Either Ryfka was Jonas' sister, and daughter of Leib, or she was
not born a Blumenberg at all, but married into the family by marrying
Leib. I see no "Leib" mentioned in her generation, only in the
preceding generation. How do I even try to unravel this??

Leslie Weinberg
Searching Eisen, Iram - Tyczyn, Poland - Oradea, Romania
Blumenberg - Tyczyn, Poland
November, Reiss - Oradea, Romania
Danskoy (Donskoy)- Nezhin, Russia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen What to do when two family tree stories don't mesh? #general

Leslie Weinberg <artsoul@...>
 

I am now totally ready to throw my hands up in the air. I have been
trying to establish a line of descent through the family "Blumenberg".
My grandfather's sister married a Jonas Blumenberg, and they had three
children, one or all of whom may still be alive, and who I am
desperately trying to locate. One source put Jonas as the brother of
several siblings, including a "Ryfka", who was a *daughter* of "Leib".
Now, I have found a Blumenberg cousin, an older man, who states that *his*
mother was not a Blumenberg, but that *her* sister, Ryfka, *married* a
Blumenberg (Leib). Same names, same family, but one story disputes the
other. Either Ryfka was Jonas' sister, and daughter of Leib, or she was
not born a Blumenberg at all, but married into the family by marrying
Leib. I see no "Leib" mentioned in her generation, only in the
preceding generation. How do I even try to unravel this??

Leslie Weinberg
Searching Eisen, Iram - Tyczyn, Poland - Oradea, Romania
Blumenberg - Tyczyn, Poland
November, Reiss - Oradea, Romania
Danskoy (Donskoy)- Nezhin, Russia


Lomza photo needs date #general

Reeva Kimble <rkimble@...>
 

I was told that this photo was of my great uncle Chaim Ciechanowicz
who was born in 1872. However, a cousin was told that it is Joszk
Ciechanowicz (born 1837), father of Chaim.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7470

There is a photo that we believe to be the wife of this man at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7471

Both photos are >from the same H. Lubeck studio, in Lomza, eastern
Poland. The same table is in both pictures. Does anyone know when
this studio was in business? Do the clothes or head covering on the
woman give any clue to the date? It is possible that the clothes
belong to the photographer.

Please contact me if you can help.

Thanks,
Reeva Jacobson Kimble
Eugene Oregon
--

web site: <http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~rkimble/>
Searching:
LAVSKI, LAWSKI/Lomza&Bialystok, Poland/Israel, US GORZALCZANY/Czyzewo,
Poland/Israel NAIMAN, NAJMAN, SURALSKI/Wasosz & Lomza, Poland/Israel, US
CIECHANOWICZ, TZECHANOVITZ, ROZENBERG/Goworowo, Sniadowo & Lomza, Poland/US,
Israel PIATNICKI, GRUDZIEN, GRUDZIENSKI/Lomza ZOLOTOROFE, SAMBURSKY,
LIFSHITZ, SUPANITZKE, YAROWSKY/Berezovka, Priluki, Ukraine/NY, Israel
JACOBSON, BECKER, GARBER, TOUBES, CHAPMAN/Mir, Belarus/Iowa, NY, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lomza photo needs date #general

Reeva Kimble <rkimble@...>
 

I was told that this photo was of my great uncle Chaim Ciechanowicz
who was born in 1872. However, a cousin was told that it is Joszk
Ciechanowicz (born 1837), father of Chaim.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7470

There is a photo that we believe to be the wife of this man at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7471

Both photos are >from the same H. Lubeck studio, in Lomza, eastern
Poland. The same table is in both pictures. Does anyone know when
this studio was in business? Do the clothes or head covering on the
woman give any clue to the date? It is possible that the clothes
belong to the photographer.

Please contact me if you can help.

Thanks,
Reeva Jacobson Kimble
Eugene Oregon
--

web site: <http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~rkimble/>
Searching:
LAVSKI, LAWSKI/Lomza&Bialystok, Poland/Israel, US GORZALCZANY/Czyzewo,
Poland/Israel NAIMAN, NAJMAN, SURALSKI/Wasosz & Lomza, Poland/Israel, US
CIECHANOWICZ, TZECHANOVITZ, ROZENBERG/Goworowo, Sniadowo & Lomza, Poland/US,
Israel PIATNICKI, GRUDZIEN, GRUDZIENSKI/Lomza ZOLOTOROFE, SAMBURSKY,
LIFSHITZ, SUPANITZKE, YAROWSKY/Berezovka, Priluki, Ukraine/NY, Israel
JACOBSON, BECKER, GARBER, TOUBES, CHAPMAN/Mir, Belarus/Iowa, NY, Israel


Czech geography 1938 - 1942 #general

Caroline Ranald Curvan <Caroline.Curvan@...>
 

I've received information >from the Red Cross regarding my Great Uncle, David
Jan ZINKER. There are several locations mentioned with which I am not
familiar. I wonder if anyone here can shed some light on them:

1) In 1938, the Prague Police Directorate listed his home-residence as
Drozdova, region Horovice. Where exactly is this?

2) On 23 February 1942, an investigation was declared for him because he
did not show up at the "Jewish Camp at Kladen". What/where was this? At the
time, he was registered as living in Dobrin, region Roundice-nad-Lubem.
Again, where is this? 3 days later, on 26 February 1942, he was deported to
Terezin and >from there to Maly Trostinec.

He was a chemical engineer, trained at the German Technical University.
Supposedly he worked in a munitions plant/factory between his graduation and
deportation.

Any information is most welcome.

Thank you very much.

Caroline Ranald Curvan
Ossining, NY
Caroline.Curvan@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Czech geography 1938 - 1942 #general

Caroline Ranald Curvan <Caroline.Curvan@...>
 

I've received information >from the Red Cross regarding my Great Uncle, David
Jan ZINKER. There are several locations mentioned with which I am not
familiar. I wonder if anyone here can shed some light on them:

1) In 1938, the Prague Police Directorate listed his home-residence as
Drozdova, region Horovice. Where exactly is this?

2) On 23 February 1942, an investigation was declared for him because he
did not show up at the "Jewish Camp at Kladen". What/where was this? At the
time, he was registered as living in Dobrin, region Roundice-nad-Lubem.
Again, where is this? 3 days later, on 26 February 1942, he was deported to
Terezin and >from there to Maly Trostinec.

He was a chemical engineer, trained at the German Technical University.
Supposedly he worked in a munitions plant/factory between his graduation and
deportation.

Any information is most welcome.

Thank you very much.

Caroline Ranald Curvan
Ossining, NY
Caroline.Curvan@...


Terezin ghetto 1942 #general

Caroline Ranald Curvan <Caroline.Curvan@...>
 

I'm looking for any survivors who might recall meeting a David Jan ZINKER in
Terezin. He was a chemical engineer who had studied at the German Technical
University in Prague and was deported to Terezin on 26 February 1942. >from
there, he was sent to Maly Trostinec on 25 August 1942.

Any information is greatly appreciated.

Thank you very much.

Caroline Ranald Curvan
Ossining, NY
Caroline.Curvan@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Terezin ghetto 1942 #general

Caroline Ranald Curvan <Caroline.Curvan@...>
 

I'm looking for any survivors who might recall meeting a David Jan ZINKER in
Terezin. He was a chemical engineer who had studied at the German Technical
University in Prague and was deported to Terezin on 26 February 1942. >from
there, he was sent to Maly Trostinec on 25 August 1942.

Any information is greatly appreciated.

Thank you very much.

Caroline Ranald Curvan
Ossining, NY
Caroline.Curvan@...


Re: Passenger route from Kiel, Germany to UK before WWII #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

The Kiel Canal was definitely part of a sea route >from the Baltic Ports to
the east coast of England (Hull, Grimsby, etc). My grandfather and his
family traveled that route in 1899.

--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Passenger route from Kiel, Germany to UK before WWII #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

The Kiel Canal was definitely part of a sea route >from the Baltic Ports to
the east coast of England (Hull, Grimsby, etc). My grandfather and his
family traveled that route in 1899.

--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY