In a message dated 4/12/2006 7:56:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
spri0037@tc.umn.edu writes:

"Heating amber will soften it and eventually it will burn, a fact that
has given rise to the name of /bernstein/, by which the Germans know amber."

==Yes, that's true. And it is possible that a Bernstein here or there may
have been a collector or carver of amber, or may have had a face that reminded
his neighbors of amber.

==B-u-t , in truth though, most of the Bernsteins would have been simply
Ber or Baer or Behr if they hadn't added the suffix -stein to their "Jewish"
name, which is a kinnuy for biblical Issachar or Hebrew Dov.

==Similarly, most Berlins didn't take their name >from the city but >from Ber.

==It was common, especially in German-speaking countries to add suffixes
like -stein, -baum, blatt, berg, -feld to "Jewish" names to make them less
"Jewish"--a requirement in some jurisdictions when registering a surname.

==some examples:

Rosenbaum , Rosenblatt (Rosa)
Nissenbaum (Nathan or Nissan)
Ehrenfeld (Aaron; most surnames starting with Ehren are Kohanim)
Loewenberg (Loew)
Levenberg (Levi)
Birnbaum (Ber)
Mendelsohn, Mandelstamm, Mandelbrot (Mendel)
Hirschfeld, Hertzfeld (Hirsch, kinnuy for bib. Naftali or Heb Tzvi)

Michael Bernet (>from Ber),
New York

In a message dated 4/12/2006 7:56:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
spri0037@tc.umn.edu writes:

"Heating amber will soften it and eventually it will burn, a fact that
has given rise to the name of /bernstein/, by which the Germans know amber."

==Yes, that's true. And it is possible that a Bernstein here or there may
have been a collector or carver of amber, or may have had a face that reminded
his neighbors of amber.

==B-u-t , in truth though, most of the Bernsteins would have been simply
Ber or Baer or Behr if they hadn't added the suffix -stein to their "Jewish"
name, which is a kinnuy for biblical Issachar or Hebrew Dov.

==Similarly, most Berlins didn't take their name >from the city but >from Ber.

==It was common, especially in German-speaking countries to add suffixes
like -stein, -baum, blatt, berg, -feld to "Jewish" names to make them less
"Jewish"--a requirement in some jurisdictions when registering a surname.

==some examples:

Rosenbaum , Rosenblatt (Rosa)
Nissenbaum (Nathan or Nissan)
Ehrenfeld (Aaron; most surnames starting with Ehren are Kohanim)
Loewenberg (Loew)
Levenberg (Levi)
Birnbaum (Ber)
Mendelsohn, Mandelstamm, Mandelbrot (Mendel)
Hirschfeld, Hertzfeld (Hirsch, kinnuy for bib. Naftali or Heb Tzvi)

Michael Bernet (>from Ber),
New York

Dear Russell,

Welcome to the SIG. Just a reminder - most of the worlds' published
material is not on the internet. Yes, a lot of genealogically relevant
records are being placed on the web, but don't rely solely on that.

Get to a library! There are standard resources and techniques that
family history hunters use to search for information about relatives.
Start by reading a few books about how to research your family history
- that will get you on the right path. Genealogy for Dummies actually
is an excellent book. In addition, there are books, as well as
countless on-line articles about how to hunt for ancestors in specific
geographic locations and ethnic groups. The Jewish Gen web sites offer
several such articles, as does the Mormon site, Genealogy.com,
CyndisList, etc. Study up on the history of the era you wish to
explore, too.

Some standard resources include old city directories, telephone books,
census records, vital records indices, newspaper indices, who's who,
and necrology files. The Mormons' lending library of international
records was invaluable in my search. A good reference librarian can
assist you.

good luck - Pat
USA



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Subject: Help with Idea's?
From: "russell" <russell@tnet.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:05:48 +0200

Dear JewishGenners
Having drawn a blank in Latvia (no records exist for 1879), spoken to
every
living relative, have trawled every page on the SAfrica SIG and many of
the
linked resources and still have no solid leads to work on, so I am
turning
to this group for some Idea's

........ Where do I go >from here? I am considering writing to every
BERNSTEIN in the
South African phone book! unless anyone can give me other avenues to
explore
first. .

Russell Vaughan
Malaga
SPAIN

Dear Russell,

Welcome to the SIG. Just a reminder - most of the worlds' published
material is not on the internet. Yes, a lot of genealogically relevant
records are being placed on the web, but don't rely solely on that.

Get to a library! There are standard resources and techniques that
family history hunters use to search for information about relatives.
Start by reading a few books about how to research your family history
- that will get you on the right path. Genealogy for Dummies actually
is an excellent book. In addition, there are books, as well as
countless on-line articles about how to hunt for ancestors in specific
geographic locations and ethnic groups. The Jewish Gen web sites offer
several such articles, as does the Mormon site, Genealogy.com,
CyndisList, etc. Study up on the history of the era you wish to
explore, too.

Some standard resources include old city directories, telephone books,
census records, vital records indices, newspaper indices, who's who,
and necrology files. The Mormons' lending library of international
records was invaluable in my search. A good reference librarian can
assist you.

good luck - Pat
USA



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Subject: Help with Idea's?
From: "russell" <russell@tnet.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:05:48 +0200

Dear JewishGenners
Having drawn a blank in Latvia (no records exist for 1879), spoken to
every
living relative, have trawled every page on the SAfrica SIG and many of
the
linked resources and still have no solid leads to work on, so I am
turning
to this group for some Idea's

........ Where do I go >from here? I am considering writing to every
BERNSTEIN in the
South African phone book! unless anyone can give me other avenues to
explore
first. .

Russell Vaughan
Malaga
SPAIN

Dear Russel,
I think I know the family.... my family too.
I will reread your letter after our Pesach guests leave as they have the
sofabed in the computer room........
In a word Yesorsky. Lily Bernstein m ??? Yesorsky a reverend/schochet and
they lived in Bulawayo.
Daughter Marilyn lives I am told in Cape Town.There is also Judy and a son.
M is the oldest and would be late 60s, others maybe late 50's.
If I knew her married name I too would contact her.

I need to check my notes but I am fairly sure her mother was Lily Bernstein.

Ros Romem
nee Abrahams
Jerusalem

Dear Russel,
I think I know the family.... my family too.
I will reread your letter after our Pesach guests leave as they have the
sofabed in the computer room........
In a word Yesorsky. Lily Bernstein m ??? Yesorsky a reverend/schochet and
they lived in Bulawayo.
Daughter Marilyn lives I am told in Cape Town.There is also Judy and a son.
M is the oldest and would be late 60s, others maybe late 50's.
If I knew her married name I too would contact her.

I need to check my notes but I am fairly sure her mother was Lily Bernstein.

Ros Romem
nee Abrahams
Jerusalem

Dear Jewish Genners:

Recently I reported in accordance with a request >from the Kentucky
Department of Library and Archives, that the Kentucky birth indexes had been
depublished by Ancestry.com due to a glitch in the index records sent to
Ancestry. I have been advised by Ancestry that the Kentucky Birth Index
1911-1999 has been replaced and updated and back on the Ancestry site.

Jan Meisels Allen, director
IAJGS and chairperson Public Records Access and Monitoring Committee

Dear Jewish Genners:

Recently I reported in accordance with a request >from the Kentucky
Department of Library and Archives, that the Kentucky birth indexes had been
depublished by Ancestry.com due to a glitch in the index records sent to
Ancestry. I have been advised by Ancestry that the Kentucky Birth Index
1911-1999 has been replaced and updated and back on the Ancestry site.

Jan Meisels Allen, director
IAJGS and chairperson Public Records Access and Monitoring Committee

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island invites you to join us at our
Sunday, April 23 meeting.
Our topic is: "Oganiz-It-Getting It Together!"

Time: 2:00 PM
Place: Mid-Island Y JCC 45 Manetto Hill Road Plainview, New York

Our guest speaker is JGSLI Vice-President and Professional Genealogist,
Rhoda Miller. Rhoda will explain how to reduce and organize your genealogy
clutter in order to research more effectively and prepare for research trips.
These tips will help you to break through those brick walls. She will also
offer special tips on preparing for the upcoming International Conference on
Jewish Genealogy in New York City.

Admission is free and all are welcome. Refreshments will be served.
Reference books will be available. Our "Mavens" are available to take your
research questions at 1:30 PM.

For more information please contact Rhoda, _rmiller871@aol.com_
(mailto:rmiller871@aol.com)

Jackie Wasserstein
Past President

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island invites you to join us at our
Sunday, April 23 meeting.
Our topic is: "Oganiz-It-Getting It Together!"

Time: 2:00 PM
Place: Mid-Island Y JCC 45 Manetto Hill Road Plainview, New York

Our guest speaker is JGSLI Vice-President and Professional Genealogist,
Rhoda Miller. Rhoda will explain how to reduce and organize your genealogy
clutter in order to research more effectively and prepare for research trips.
These tips will help you to break through those brick walls. She will also
offer special tips on preparing for the upcoming International Conference on
Jewish Genealogy in New York City.

Admission is free and all are welcome. Refreshments will be served.
Reference books will be available. Our "Mavens" are available to take your
research questions at 1:30 PM.

For more information please contact Rhoda, _rmiller871@aol.com_
(mailto:rmiller871@aol.com)

Jackie Wasserstein
Past President

The official website of the Chevra Kadisha - Burial Society - of Tel-Aviv
district is at:
http://www.kadisha.biz/

The website includes information about all 6 Jewish cemeteries of the
Tel-Aviv district:
http://www.kadisha.biz/showItem.aspx?levelID=59560

Burial information can be searched online according to name of the deceased,
father's name, death year span, cemetery name, etc.
Exact http://www.kadisha.biz/ShowItem.aspx?levelID=59689
Search results provide: name of the deceased, father's name, date of death
(Yahrzeit) - both Jewish and general, and name of cemetery.
The exact location of individual graves / burial plots is not available
online.

Public contacts with the Chevra Kadisha by email:
http://www.kadisha.biz/showItem.aspx?levelID=59571

The website is in Hebrew only (another challenge to Steve Morse ??? ))

Chag Pesach Sameach,

Ilan GANOT
Holon, Israel

The official website of the Chevra Kadisha - Burial Society - of Tel-Aviv
district is at:
http://www.kadisha.biz/

The website includes information about all 6 Jewish cemeteries of the
Tel-Aviv district:
http://www.kadisha.biz/showItem.aspx?levelID=59560

Burial information can be searched online according to name of the deceased,
father's name, death year span, cemetery name, etc.
Exact http://www.kadisha.biz/ShowItem.aspx?levelID=59689
Search results provide: name of the deceased, father's name, date of death
(Yahrzeit) - both Jewish and general, and name of cemetery.
The exact location of individual graves / burial plots is not available
online.

Public contacts with the Chevra Kadisha by email:
http://www.kadisha.biz/showItem.aspx?levelID=59571

The website is in Hebrew only (another challenge to Steve Morse ??? ))

Chag Pesach Sameach,

Ilan GANOT
Holon, Israel

Dear Genners,

I am looking for Archives address in the city of Bresc nad Bugiem.

I would like to hear >from anyone that had experience to work with this
particular Archive.

I am also open to any other suggestions >from any one on this subject.

Please respond privately.

Thank you for your assistance in this matter.

Sincerely

Adam Richter

Sztejnklaper - Janow Podlaski and Miedzyrzece Podlaski
Chajet - Miedzyrzec Podlaski, Suszczyk - Lomazy, Gruszniewski(a) -
Miedzyrzec Podlaski, Bresc nad Bugiem, Lomza

Dear Genners,

I am looking for Archives address in the city of Bresc nad Bugiem.

I would like to hear >from anyone that had experience to work with this
particular Archive.

I am also open to any other suggestions >from any one on this subject.

Please respond privately.

Thank you for your assistance in this matter.

Sincerely

Adam Richter

Sztejnklaper - Janow Podlaski and Miedzyrzece Podlaski
Chajet - Miedzyrzec Podlaski, Suszczyk - Lomazy, Gruszniewski(a) -
Miedzyrzec Podlaski, Bresc nad Bugiem, Lomza

I just was reading a website on amber, the fossilized resin of ancient
trees, and found this:

"Heating amber will soften it and eventually it will burn, a fact that
has given rise to the name of /bernstein/, by which the Germans know amber."

http://www.emporia.edu/earthsci/amber/amber.htm

Lilli Sprintz

MODERATOR NOTE: Many of our family names are common nouns. For more
surname meanings, see the resources listed in the FAQ at
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/faq.html#Names
and in the InfoFiles at http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/#Names .

I just was reading a website on amber, the fossilized resin of ancient
trees, and found this:

"Heating amber will soften it and eventually it will burn, a fact that
has given rise to the name of /bernstein/, by which the Germans know amber."

http://www.emporia.edu/earthsci/amber/amber.htm

Lilli Sprintz

MODERATOR NOTE: Many of our family names are common nouns. For more
surname meanings, see the resources listed in the FAQ at
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/faq.html#Names
and in the InfoFiles at http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/#Names .

Geoff Munitz is looking for data on the following
relatives who all moved to Vienna between 1880-1910:

1. Jakob SCHON, born Lemberg about 1860. Married in
1885 in Lemberg, Szyfra ROSENTHAL, the daughter of
Aron Rosenthal and Krajncze BUCH. Jakob and his wife
later resided at Wien 11, Pazmaniten Gasse A 28.

Their children all born in Lemberg were:
Arnold SCHON {1886}; Ella SCHON {1888}; Fany SCHON
{1890}; Etelka SCHON {1893}; Marya (Mandzia) {1896}.

2 Sophie STEINBERG, nee SCHOTTLANDER >from Brody,
the wife of a trader. They resided with their family
at Wien, 2, Muhlfeldgasse.

3. Teme SCHON, who was born in Lemberg about 1865.
She married in Lemberg in 1896 Mozes Jozef VOGEL, the
son of Eizyg and Sara Vogel. Their children all born
in Lemberg were: Marek VOGEL {1897}; Gusta Betti VOGEL
{1898}; Arnold VOGEL {1899}.

4. Chaje also known as Klara SCHON, who born in
Lemberg about 1859. She married in 1891, Elie Mendel
PELL, the son of Jakob Mordeche Pell and Sussel
BLASSBERG. Their children all born in Lemberg were
were: Marek PELL {1892}; Sigmar PELL {1893}; Gusta
PELL {1895}.
======================================================
This is an enormous list and each has to be carefully
checked through the cemetery records, asset files and
holocaust records. As Geoff has addresses he can get
the Meldezettel and more data should be forthcoming.

1. SCHON: A very common name but:

Ernestine 1906-04-24 27973
Arnold 1886-11-10 27974

this couple, with consecutive asset file numbers,
could be a hit - they may be father and daughter.

This could be the grave:
Zentralfriedhof Vienna Gate I Gp 19 Row 49 Grave 2


SCHON Jakob no age given 02.12.1941 04.12.1941
SCHON Serafine aged 62 Jahr(e) buried 07.04.1921
WAGNER Isidor aged 33 buried 22.02.1894

If correct, Jakob would be over 80 and born ca 1860.
Serafine is probably Szyfra. Isidor could be a
relative or a computer error!

This could be Etelka and perhaps a mother-in-law
deported >from the same address:

Etelka Schwarz born 03.08.1893
Mathilde Schwarz born 01.09.1869

2. STEINBERG - this could be the right grave

Zentralfriedhof Vienna Gate I Gp 52 Row 43 Grave 36
DEMERER Fanny aged 62 16.04.1932 18.04.1932
STEINBERG Philipp aged 70 buried 06.10.1912
STEINBERG Sofie aged 80 buried 7.01.1920

Fanny could be a daughter.

3. VOGEL: another very common name and hard to pin
down, but here is the right grave:

Zentralfriedhof Vienna Gate IV Gp 22 Row 30 Grave 8
[date of death and date of burial given]
VOGEL Moses Josef aged 67 09.11.1936 11.11.1936
VOGEL Tenne aged 82 20.08.1947 25.08.1947

Tenne appears to have survived the war years.

4. PELL: I know a London family originating from
Vienna and Galicia - they could be a link. There are
no 1938 asset files for this family and they do not
appear in a Vienna directory of 1933. There are no
PELL graves in Vienna, nor are there any holocaust
victims. The PELL family must have died out or left
before the holocaust.

Unless Geoff is prepared to do a lot of digging
himself - he needs to hire a genealogist to fill in
the gaps. There are many clues to be followed up and
although the names are common - it is not a lost
cause!

Celia Male [U.K.]

Geoff Munitz is looking for data on the following
relatives who all moved to Vienna between 1880-1910:

1. Jakob SCHON, born Lemberg about 1860. Married in
1885 in Lemberg, Szyfra ROSENTHAL, the daughter of
Aron Rosenthal and Krajncze BUCH. Jakob and his wife
later resided at Wien 11, Pazmaniten Gasse A 28.

Their children all born in Lemberg were:
Arnold SCHON {1886}; Ella SCHON {1888}; Fany SCHON
{1890}; Etelka SCHON {1893}; Marya (Mandzia) {1896}.

2 Sophie STEINBERG, nee SCHOTTLANDER >from Brody,
the wife of a trader. They resided with their family
at Wien, 2, Muhlfeldgasse.

3. Teme SCHON, who was born in Lemberg about 1865.
She married in Lemberg in 1896 Mozes Jozef VOGEL, the
son of Eizyg and Sara Vogel. Their children all born
in Lemberg were: Marek VOGEL {1897}; Gusta Betti VOGEL
{1898}; Arnold VOGEL {1899}.

4. Chaje also known as Klara SCHON, who born in
Lemberg about 1859. She married in 1891, Elie Mendel
PELL, the son of Jakob Mordeche Pell and Sussel
BLASSBERG. Their children all born in Lemberg were
were: Marek PELL {1892}; Sigmar PELL {1893}; Gusta
PELL {1895}.
======================================================
This is an enormous list and each has to be carefully
checked through the cemetery records, asset files and
holocaust records. As Geoff has addresses he can get
the Meldezettel and more data should be forthcoming.

1. SCHON: A very common name but:

Ernestine 1906-04-24 27973
Arnold 1886-11-10 27974

this couple, with consecutive asset file numbers,
could be a hit - they may be father and daughter.

This could be the grave:
Zentralfriedhof Vienna Gate I Gp 19 Row 49 Grave 2


SCHON Jakob no age given 02.12.1941 04.12.1941
SCHON Serafine aged 62 Jahr(e) buried 07.04.1921
WAGNER Isidor aged 33 buried 22.02.1894

If correct, Jakob would be over 80 and born ca 1860.
Serafine is probably Szyfra. Isidor could be a
relative or a computer error!

This could be Etelka and perhaps a mother-in-law
deported >from the same address:

Etelka Schwarz born 03.08.1893
Mathilde Schwarz born 01.09.1869

2. STEINBERG - this could be the right grave

Zentralfriedhof Vienna Gate I Gp 52 Row 43 Grave 36
DEMERER Fanny aged 62 16.04.1932 18.04.1932
STEINBERG Philipp aged 70 buried 06.10.1912
STEINBERG Sofie aged 80 buried 7.01.1920

Fanny could be a daughter.

3. VOGEL: another very common name and hard to pin
down, but here is the right grave:

Zentralfriedhof Vienna Gate IV Gp 22 Row 30 Grave 8
[date of death and date of burial given]
VOGEL Moses Josef aged 67 09.11.1936 11.11.1936
VOGEL Tenne aged 82 20.08.1947 25.08.1947

Tenne appears to have survived the war years.

4. PELL: I know a London family originating from
Vienna and Galicia - they could be a link. There are
no 1938 asset files for this family and they do not
appear in a Vienna directory of 1933. There are no
PELL graves in Vienna, nor are there any holocaust
victims. The PELL family must have died out or left
before the holocaust.

Unless Geoff is prepared to do a lot of digging
himself - he needs to hire a genealogist to fill in
the gaps. There are many clues to be followed up and
although the names are common - it is not a lost
cause!

Celia Male [U.K.]

This is just to inform you that on the following link is now register of
burials
http://cemeteries.zob.cz/

It comprises the following cemeteries:
Brno
Ivancice
Miroslav
Holesov

Jan O. Hellmann/DK
Investigating. HELLMANN,EHRMANN,GUTH,HELLER

I am writing to ask whether anyone can suggest how to trace a relative, who
may well be living. I would like to make contact with Hans Leopold Putz,
born on 1.12.1943 in Vienna. He is the son of Karl Putz (DOB 10.4.1906) and
Margarethe Wahringer (DOB 29.10.1909). He lived with his parents at three
different addresses in Taborstrasse, Vienna 2, until 1947. This is all the
information I have been able to obtain.

Dominique Dubois
London UK

POLLITZER, Frauenkirchen, Vienna
SINGER, Retz, Vienna
WAHRINGER, Vienna
STEINER, Westerfeld, Vienna.