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Re: Dupuytren's Contracture - Scandinavian ancestry of German Jews ? #germany

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/6/2006 rcsonne@... wrote:
" . . . . I was diagnosed with Dupuytren's, . . . .My physician (and
confirmed on the Internet) said this means that somewhere in my past -- e.g.,
heretitary -- "I have Viking roots!" I said sure, northern Germany.
"No," said he, "Viking, as in Scandinavia." Anyone heard of a possibility that
1700 German families could have emigrated >from that part of the world and,
if so, has anyone traced their roots further back to that locale, and how?"=====>

==There were laws against admitting Jews into the Scandinavian countries
until the end of the 18th century, but there were occasional groups of Jews who
lived there for relatively brief periods.

==But that isn't really the issue. Dupuytren's is not something you catch
from your neighbors but what you inherit >from your ancestors. Which would
suggest that you have a Viking ancestor, not just a Jew who lived among Vikings.

==Three possibilities for your hands-on connection:

1. Our Jewish ancestors, making their way into northern Europe pre 1000CE,
as merchants or soldiers, took local wives in the absence of Jewish women

2. The Vikings, raiders and rapists, frequently assaulted communities in
continental Europe. Perhas one of your n-gms was a victim

3. The Swedish army invaded Europe, via Lithuania and Poland under King
Gustavus Adolfus and again during the 30 Years War (perhaps the same event?).
The soldiers were not familiar with the Geneva Conventions.

I hope you get the best treatment and will soon be cured.

Michael Bernet, New York MBernet@...


German SIG #Germany Re: Dupuytren's Contracture - Scandinavian ancestry of German Jews ? #germany

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/6/2006 rcsonne@... wrote:
" . . . . I was diagnosed with Dupuytren's, . . . .My physician (and
confirmed on the Internet) said this means that somewhere in my past -- e.g.,
heretitary -- "I have Viking roots!" I said sure, northern Germany.
"No," said he, "Viking, as in Scandinavia." Anyone heard of a possibility that
1700 German families could have emigrated >from that part of the world and,
if so, has anyone traced their roots further back to that locale, and how?"=====>

==There were laws against admitting Jews into the Scandinavian countries
until the end of the 18th century, but there were occasional groups of Jews who
lived there for relatively brief periods.

==But that isn't really the issue. Dupuytren's is not something you catch
from your neighbors but what you inherit >from your ancestors. Which would
suggest that you have a Viking ancestor, not just a Jew who lived among Vikings.

==Three possibilities for your hands-on connection:

1. Our Jewish ancestors, making their way into northern Europe pre 1000CE,
as merchants or soldiers, took local wives in the absence of Jewish women

2. The Vikings, raiders and rapists, frequently assaulted communities in
continental Europe. Perhas one of your n-gms was a victim

3. The Swedish army invaded Europe, via Lithuania and Poland under King
Gustavus Adolfus and again during the 30 Years War (perhaps the same event?).
The soldiers were not familiar with the Geneva Conventions.

I hope you get the best treatment and will soon be cured.

Michael Bernet, New York MBernet@...


Gilgenburg Synagouge and Jews in EastPrussia #germany

Fred Zimmak <Fred.Zimmak@...>
 

Dear Genners,
I just found the a photo of the synagouge in Gilgenburg wich I uploaded to
Jewishgen viewmate:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7484

Gilgenburg is >from where my ancestors came from. That's why this synagouge is
intresting for me. There are also some other people in Jewishgen with
ancestors >from Gilgenburg.

I found the photo in this nice book wich I bought recently:
Juden in Ostpreusen, Husum 1998 (Jews in Eastprussia), written in German.

In this book there are very many photos >from different places and persons in
Eastprussia. Very many photos >from famous Jews, for example the Friedländer family
and also >from Königsberg. But also many pohtos >from smaller towns in Eastprussia.
There is also litte about the history of the Jews in Eastprussia.

Sadly there is no index of towns and persons, so you have to search
trough the book for specific people or towns.

For any question about this book, please respond to me privatly. Kind regards,

Fred Zimmak / Stockholm, Sweden <Fred.Zimmak@...>


German SIG #Germany Gilgenburg Synagouge and Jews in EastPrussia #germany

Fred Zimmak <Fred.Zimmak@...>
 

Dear Genners,
I just found the a photo of the synagouge in Gilgenburg wich I uploaded to
Jewishgen viewmate:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7484

Gilgenburg is >from where my ancestors came from. That's why this synagouge is
intresting for me. There are also some other people in Jewishgen with
ancestors >from Gilgenburg.

I found the photo in this nice book wich I bought recently:
Juden in Ostpreusen, Husum 1998 (Jews in Eastprussia), written in German.

In this book there are very many photos >from different places and persons in
Eastprussia. Very many photos >from famous Jews, for example the Friedländer family
and also >from Königsberg. But also many pohtos >from smaller towns in Eastprussia.
There is also litte about the history of the Jews in Eastprussia.

Sadly there is no index of towns and persons, so you have to search
trough the book for specific people or towns.

For any question about this book, please respond to me privatly. Kind regards,

Fred Zimmak / Stockholm, Sweden <Fred.Zimmak@...>


Re: Motis-Mendl/Emanuel #general

Jules Levin
 

At 08:20 AM 2/6/2006, you wrote:
Or was Menachem often given as a name for other reasons too?

Simon Tardell,
Stockholm, Sweden.
Every Chabad family we know has at least one boy named Menachem
Mendel, in honor of a/the Rebbe.
In large gatherings there are so many Mendies (seems to be the most
common nickname used) around it is comical.
Jules Levin
Los Angeles


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Motis-Mendl/Emanuel #general

Jules Levin
 

At 08:20 AM 2/6/2006, you wrote:
Or was Menachem often given as a name for other reasons too?

Simon Tardell,
Stockholm, Sweden.
Every Chabad family we know has at least one boy named Menachem
Mendel, in honor of a/the Rebbe.
In large gatherings there are so many Mendies (seems to be the most
common nickname used) around it is comical.
Jules Levin
Los Angeles


Searching Evan Derrek FINE #general

loufine@...
 

HI Genners

Thanks to all those folks who helped me find Steven SCHWAMENFELD.
I talked to his mum.

Now I'm looking for:

Evan Derrek FINE born circa 1963, wife Dena

He is probably a citizen and resident of Toronto Ontario Canada

I have searched 411 Canada with no tesults

please respond privately.

--
Louis A. Fine
Bellingham WA98225

E-mail: loufine@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching Evan Derrek FINE #general

loufine@...
 

HI Genners

Thanks to all those folks who helped me find Steven SCHWAMENFELD.
I talked to his mum.

Now I'm looking for:

Evan Derrek FINE born circa 1963, wife Dena

He is probably a citizen and resident of Toronto Ontario Canada

I have searched 411 Canada with no tesults

please respond privately.

--
Louis A. Fine
Bellingham WA98225

E-mail: loufine@...


BAER - Frankfurt - shoemaker #germany

GundR.Reuther@...
 

I'm searching for information at my g.grandparents Abraham BAER and Henriette
(Jettchen) b. STERN. They lived in Frankfurt (Bockenheimm). She lived >from
1819-1909. When he lived I can't find out.
At the archives I could find out two children only, born in 1858 and in 1864).
They were born when the mother was aged 39 and 45 already. So I always mean
there could be more children. Abraham was a shoemaker - not at typical job of a
Jew, is it?

Today I searched at Yad Vashem. There I found a Berthold BAER (born in 1877 at
Frankfurt)- and he was a shoemaker, too! Isn't it strange?

Does anybody know anything about this?

At the pages of Testimony the great grandson of Berthold BAER , Victor LERCH, had
written his memory. In 2001 he had lived at Raleigh, NC, USA. Does anybody know
him? He however didn't know the names of the parents of Berthold BAER.


Rosl Reuther, Coburg Germany GundR.Reuther@...


German SIG #Germany BAER - Frankfurt - shoemaker #germany

GundR.Reuther@...
 

I'm searching for information at my g.grandparents Abraham BAER and Henriette
(Jettchen) b. STERN. They lived in Frankfurt (Bockenheimm). She lived >from
1819-1909. When he lived I can't find out.
At the archives I could find out two children only, born in 1858 and in 1864).
They were born when the mother was aged 39 and 45 already. So I always mean
there could be more children. Abraham was a shoemaker - not at typical job of a
Jew, is it?

Today I searched at Yad Vashem. There I found a Berthold BAER (born in 1877 at
Frankfurt)- and he was a shoemaker, too! Isn't it strange?

Does anybody know anything about this?

At the pages of Testimony the great grandson of Berthold BAER , Victor LERCH, had
written his memory. In 2001 he had lived at Raleigh, NC, USA. Does anybody know
him? He however didn't know the names of the parents of Berthold BAER.


Rosl Reuther, Coburg Germany GundR.Reuther@...


Re: Passenger route from Kiel, Germany to UK before WWII #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Naidia Woolf" <rnwoolf@...> wrote

My paternal uncle, Willie (Wilhelm - possibly Wolf, originally) KUJAWSKI,
visited the family in England just before the 2nd world war. He and his
wife Regina were en route for the U.S. I was told by an uncle (now
deceased) that Willie and Regina were ">from Kiel, Germany," and that they
emigrated to the US "before America entered the war." I'm assuming from
that - since the KUJAWSKI family were long-term residents of Lodz, Poland,
that for Willie and Regina, Kiel was merely a transit point (>from the
European continent through the Baltic, over to England) rather than a town
of which they were residents (but this is mere conjecture on my part).
Your conjecture seems quite reasonable. According to the National Archive
Moving Here Project.
http://www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/histories/jewish/journeys/journeys.htm
which speaks about passage at an earlier period direct between, say, Riga
and England (>from 1893).

It says that the Kiel Canal which opened in 1895 reducing the time of the
journey by a day.


--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Passenger route from Kiel, Germany to UK before WWII #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Naidia Woolf" <rnwoolf@...> wrote

My paternal uncle, Willie (Wilhelm - possibly Wolf, originally) KUJAWSKI,
visited the family in England just before the 2nd world war. He and his
wife Regina were en route for the U.S. I was told by an uncle (now
deceased) that Willie and Regina were ">from Kiel, Germany," and that they
emigrated to the US "before America entered the war." I'm assuming from
that - since the KUJAWSKI family were long-term residents of Lodz, Poland,
that for Willie and Regina, Kiel was merely a transit point (>from the
European continent through the Baltic, over to England) rather than a town
of which they were residents (but this is mere conjecture on my part).
Your conjecture seems quite reasonable. According to the National Archive
Moving Here Project.
http://www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/histories/jewish/journeys/journeys.htm
which speaks about passage at an earlier period direct between, say, Riga
and England (>from 1893).

It says that the Kiel Canal which opened in 1895 reducing the time of the
journey by a day.


--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


Gilgenburg Synagouge and Jews in EastPrussia #general

Fred Zimmak <Fred.Zimmak@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I just found the a photo of the synagouge i Gilgenburg wich I uploaded to
jewishgen viewmate:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7484

Gilgenburg is >from where my ancestors came from. Thats way this synagouge is
intresting for me. There are also some other people in Jewishgen with
ancestors >from Gilgenburg.

I found the photo in this nice book wich I just buyed: Juden in Ostpreusen,
Husum 1998 (Jews in Eastprussia), written i German. In this book there are
very many photos >from different places and persons in Eastprussia. Very many
photos >from famous jews, for example the Friedländer family and also from
Königsberg. But also many pohtos >from smaller towns in Eastprussia. There is
also litte about the history of the jews in Eastprussia.

Bad enuogh there is no index of towns and persons, so you have to search
trough the book for people or towns.

For any question about this book, please respond to me privatly.

Kind regards

Fred Zimmak / Stockholm, Sweden


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gilgenburg Synagouge and Jews in EastPrussia #general

Fred Zimmak <Fred.Zimmak@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I just found the a photo of the synagouge i Gilgenburg wich I uploaded to
jewishgen viewmate:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7484

Gilgenburg is >from where my ancestors came from. Thats way this synagouge is
intresting for me. There are also some other people in Jewishgen with
ancestors >from Gilgenburg.

I found the photo in this nice book wich I just buyed: Juden in Ostpreusen,
Husum 1998 (Jews in Eastprussia), written i German. In this book there are
very many photos >from different places and persons in Eastprussia. Very many
photos >from famous jews, for example the Friedländer family and also from
Königsberg. But also many pohtos >from smaller towns in Eastprussia. There is
also litte about the history of the jews in Eastprussia.

Bad enuogh there is no index of towns and persons, so you have to search
trough the book for people or towns.

For any question about this book, please respond to me privatly.

Kind regards

Fred Zimmak / Stockholm, Sweden


KAHN at Waltenheim, Alsace #germany

ljrooschul <ljrooschul@...>
 

I am looking for David ben Joseph KAHN >from Fürth, 'hazan at Waltenheim
in 1785.

many thanks in advance for any help. yours,

Eliane Roos, Paris, France <ljrooschul@...>


German SIG #Germany KAHN at Waltenheim, Alsace #germany

ljrooschul <ljrooschul@...>
 

I am looking for David ben Joseph KAHN >from Fürth, 'hazan at Waltenheim
in 1785.

many thanks in advance for any help. yours,

Eliane Roos, Paris, France <ljrooschul@...>


Rabbis Samuel and Moise PICK - Mulhausen - 1785 #germany

ljrooschul <ljrooschul@...>
 

Does somebody know about rabbis Samuel et Moïse PICK
of Mulhausen, died before or circa 1785 ?

many thanks in advance, yours, Eliane Roos, Paris, France <ljrooschul@...>


Re: Menachem/Mendl/Emanuel #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/6/2006 12:09:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
simon@... writes:

An ancestor of mine was
"Menachem Arje" in Hebrew (as far as I know, just "Leo(n)" in day to day
use). Would this be a good reason to suspect that an elder brother, his
father or uncle (or ...) died shortly before he was born (or, that he
was born close to tisha b'av)? Or was Menachem often given as a name for
other reasons too?
==Coincidence! My gggf was Menachem Arje (surnamed Koenigshoefer) of
Welbhausen, b. Ermreuth 1806, d Fuerth 1884. His civil name was Emanuel Loeb.An
ancestor of yours?

==To answer your question, Menachem is also passed on in the usual way, >from
a departed ancestor, relative, friend or rabbi, just like any other name.
In faact, my Menachem Arje.was named after his grandfather.

Michael Bernet, New York


German SIG #Germany Rabbis Samuel and Moise PICK - Mulhausen - 1785 #germany

ljrooschul <ljrooschul@...>
 

Does somebody know about rabbis Samuel et Moïse PICK
of Mulhausen, died before or circa 1785 ?

many thanks in advance, yours, Eliane Roos, Paris, France <ljrooschul@...>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Menachem/Mendl/Emanuel #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/6/2006 12:09:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
simon@... writes:

An ancestor of mine was
"Menachem Arje" in Hebrew (as far as I know, just "Leo(n)" in day to day
use). Would this be a good reason to suspect that an elder brother, his
father or uncle (or ...) died shortly before he was born (or, that he
was born close to tisha b'av)? Or was Menachem often given as a name for
other reasons too?
==Coincidence! My gggf was Menachem Arje (surnamed Koenigshoefer) of
Welbhausen, b. Ermreuth 1806, d Fuerth 1884. His civil name was Emanuel Loeb.An
ancestor of yours?

==To answer your question, Menachem is also passed on in the usual way, >from
a departed ancestor, relative, friend or rabbi, just like any other name.
In faact, my Menachem Arje.was named after his grandfather.

Michael Bernet, New York