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The JGS of Montreal - next program - Monday, June 04/18 #general

Merle Kastner <merlebk18@...>
 

The JGS of Montreal, in association with the
Jewish Public Library, is very pleased to present:

Daniel Horowitz
"Research Israel Genealogical Resources - right >from your Couch!"

The meeting will be held on Monday, June 04, 2018 at 7:30 pm
Gelber Conference Centre, 5151 Cote Ste-Catherine/1 Carre Cummings

For all information on our upcoming meetings & Sunday Morning
Family Tree Workshops - JGS of Montreal Hotline - 24 hours a day:
514-484-0969
Please visit the JGS of Montreal website: http://jgs-montreal.org/
and follow us on Facebook

Merle Kastner
JGS of Montreal, Programming


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The JGS of Montreal - next program - Monday, June 04/18 #general

Merle Kastner <merlebk18@...>
 

The JGS of Montreal, in association with the
Jewish Public Library, is very pleased to present:

Daniel Horowitz
"Research Israel Genealogical Resources - right >from your Couch!"

The meeting will be held on Monday, June 04, 2018 at 7:30 pm
Gelber Conference Centre, 5151 Cote Ste-Catherine/1 Carre Cummings

For all information on our upcoming meetings & Sunday Morning
Family Tree Workshops - JGS of Montreal Hotline - 24 hours a day:
514-484-0969
Please visit the JGS of Montreal website: http://jgs-montreal.org/
and follow us on Facebook

Merle Kastner
JGS of Montreal, Programming


diary of visit to Troskunai 1926 #lithuania

Carol Hoffman
 

The latest entry to the Troskunai kehilalinks page of memories
https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/troskunai/memories.htm is the diary
of Esther Selman Solomon when she visited in 1926

https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/troskunai/memories-visit.htm.

Do read and enjoy going back almost 100 years!

Carol Hoffman
LitvakSIG President


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania diary of visit to Troskunai 1926 #lithuania

Carol Hoffman
 

The latest entry to the Troskunai kehilalinks page of memories
https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/troskunai/memories.htm is the diary
of Esther Selman Solomon when she visited in 1926

https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/troskunai/memories-visit.htm.

Do read and enjoy going back almost 100 years!

Carol Hoffman
LitvakSIG President


POLISH TRANSLATION REQUEST #poland

Nomi Waksberg <nwaksberg@...>
 

Hello,

There are several requests posted for records in Polish which I
require help translating. They are the children of my very prolific
great, great uncles - and since there are so many, help is needed
in matching the child with the correct parents.


http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM66798
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM66796
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM66777

Please respond using the online ViewMate form.

Thank you in advance for your valuable time and help.

Nomi Fiszenfeld Waksberg
Researching Family Names:
FISZENFLED, BRAUN, FRYDMAN, ZINGER, WOLKOWICZ,
WAKSBERG, ROZENBLAT, SLUPSKA, RYGIEL, KLAJNBART


JRI Poland #Poland POLISH TRANSLATION REQUEST #poland

Nomi Waksberg <nwaksberg@...>
 

Hello,

There are several requests posted for records in Polish which I
require help translating. They are the children of my very prolific
great, great uncles - and since there are so many, help is needed
in matching the child with the correct parents.


http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM66798
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM66796
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM66777

Please respond using the online ViewMate form.

Thank you in advance for your valuable time and help.

Nomi Fiszenfeld Waksberg
Researching Family Names:
FISZENFLED, BRAUN, FRYDMAN, ZINGER, WOLKOWICZ,
WAKSBERG, ROZENBLAT, SLUPSKA, RYGIEL, KLAJNBART


RUBINSTEIN family Ostrog #general

Rachelle Litt
 

It's been awhile since I've asked anything >from fellow Genners but I've reached
a wall. I'm looking for a RUBINSTEIN/RUBENSTEIN family >from Ostrog. They
emigrated around 1903 to Philadelphia. I believe the mothers name is Annie birth
around 1860. The ship document says her name is Elke. Her children are Ides b.
1881, D'vorah b. 1885, Berel b. 1889. They lived in Ostrog. I do not know the
husband/fathers name which is important. I do not believe he ever emigrated.

They are related to another Ostrog family named WISNEFSKY/WESNAFSKY. Father is
Philip WISNEFSKY b. Around 1860,s and mother is Leah/ Leie. RUBINSTEIN possibly
Elizabeth Leah RUBINSTEIN. I know the families are related but cannot figure
out how.

I appreciate any help. I'm having trouble remembering how to most efficiently
use the JewishGen Website.

Rachelle Litt
Palm Beach Gardens, Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RUBINSTEIN family Ostrog #general

Rachelle Litt
 

It's been awhile since I've asked anything >from fellow Genners but I've reached
a wall. I'm looking for a RUBINSTEIN/RUBENSTEIN family >from Ostrog. They
emigrated around 1903 to Philadelphia. I believe the mothers name is Annie birth
around 1860. The ship document says her name is Elke. Her children are Ides b.
1881, D'vorah b. 1885, Berel b. 1889. They lived in Ostrog. I do not know the
husband/fathers name which is important. I do not believe he ever emigrated.

They are related to another Ostrog family named WISNEFSKY/WESNAFSKY. Father is
Philip WISNEFSKY b. Around 1860,s and mother is Leah/ Leie. RUBINSTEIN possibly
Elizabeth Leah RUBINSTEIN. I know the families are related but cannot figure
out how.

I appreciate any help. I'm having trouble remembering how to most efficiently
use the JewishGen Website.

Rachelle Litt
Palm Beach Gardens, Florida


Re: RUBINSTEIN family Ostrog #general

Rachelle Litt
 

An update: Philips name may have been "Fivel" WISNEFSKY.

It's been awhile since I've asked anything >from fellow Genners but I've reached
a wall. I'm looking for a RUBINSTEIN/RUBENSTEIN family >from Ostrog. They
emigrated around 1903 to Philadelphia. I believe the mothers name is Annie
birth around 1860. The ship document says her name is Elke. Her children are
Ides b. 1881, D'vorah b. 1885, Berel b. 1889. They lived in Ostrog. I do not
know the husband/fathers name which is important. I do not believe he ever
emigrated. They are related to another Ostrog family named WISNEFSKY/WESNAFSKY.
Father is Philip WISNEFSKY b. Around 1860,s and mother is Leah/ Leie.
RUBINSTEIN possibly Elizabeth Leah RUBINSTEIN.

I know the families are related but cannot figure out how. I appreciate any
help. I'm having trouble remembering how to most efficiently use the JewishGen
Website.
Rachelle Litt
Palm Beach Gardens, Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: RUBINSTEIN family Ostrog #general

Rachelle Litt
 

An update: Philips name may have been "Fivel" WISNEFSKY.

It's been awhile since I've asked anything >from fellow Genners but I've reached
a wall. I'm looking for a RUBINSTEIN/RUBENSTEIN family >from Ostrog. They
emigrated around 1903 to Philadelphia. I believe the mothers name is Annie
birth around 1860. The ship document says her name is Elke. Her children are
Ides b. 1881, D'vorah b. 1885, Berel b. 1889. They lived in Ostrog. I do not
know the husband/fathers name which is important. I do not believe he ever
emigrated. They are related to another Ostrog family named WISNEFSKY/WESNAFSKY.
Father is Philip WISNEFSKY b. Around 1860,s and mother is Leah/ Leie.
RUBINSTEIN possibly Elizabeth Leah RUBINSTEIN.

I know the families are related but cannot figure out how. I appreciate any
help. I'm having trouble remembering how to most efficiently use the JewishGen
Website.
Rachelle Litt
Palm Beach Gardens, Florida


Important question about birth in old Prussia - No information about city #germany

Tiago Carmo <agocarmo@...>
 

Hi,

I'm researching a specific part about my family that doesn't show in
any document the city >from old Prussia they were born. And it's almost
impossible to know because it could be almost anywhere in modern
Germany, Poland, etc. But most likely >from East Prussia (not sure).

My question is: There's some way that I can discover the city or other
information? Anything would help. The only information I have is the
name, birth date (year) and father's name. What do you think?

It's important to say that I already researched in all tools
available in the site, and I couldn't find nothing.

The 2 ancestors would be (they are not related to each other but it's
only written "Prussia" in the old documents):

- Hermann HEIDEMANN - Born in 1870 in "Prussia", the son of August and
Wilhelmine HEIDEMANN. August was born in 1837.

- Carolina BLUMENTHAL - Born in 1854 in "Prussia", the daughter of
Ludwig BLUMENTHAL, born in 1803.

Any kind of tip would be super helpful. Thanks a lot in advance!

Tiago Carmo, Curitiba, Brazil agocarmo@...


ViewMate Translation Request - German #germany

Tony Chakurian
 

Dear Friends,

I've posted the birth record for a Barbara WOLFSBRUCK that was born in 1827=
. The record is in German for which I need complete translation. This recor=
d is on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3DVM66848

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much. Tony Chakurian Roseville, California


German SIG #Germany Important question about birth in old Prussia - No information about city #germany

Tiago Carmo <agocarmo@...>
 

Hi,

I'm researching a specific part about my family that doesn't show in
any document the city >from old Prussia they were born. And it's almost
impossible to know because it could be almost anywhere in modern
Germany, Poland, etc. But most likely >from East Prussia (not sure).

My question is: There's some way that I can discover the city or other
information? Anything would help. The only information I have is the
name, birth date (year) and father's name. What do you think?

It's important to say that I already researched in all tools
available in the site, and I couldn't find nothing.

The 2 ancestors would be (they are not related to each other but it's
only written "Prussia" in the old documents):

- Hermann HEIDEMANN - Born in 1870 in "Prussia", the son of August and
Wilhelmine HEIDEMANN. August was born in 1837.

- Carolina BLUMENTHAL - Born in 1854 in "Prussia", the daughter of
Ludwig BLUMENTHAL, born in 1803.

Any kind of tip would be super helpful. Thanks a lot in advance!

Tiago Carmo, Curitiba, Brazil agocarmo@...


German SIG #Germany ViewMate Translation Request - German #germany

Tony Chakurian
 

Dear Friends,

I've posted the birth record for a Barbara WOLFSBRUCK that was born in 1827=
. The record is in German for which I need complete translation. This recor=
d is on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3DVM66848

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much. Tony Chakurian Roseville, California


Re: X matches to cousins #dna

Shmuel Yoseph <shruyo@...>
 

Shalom Sarah and Sandy,
Concerning Sarah's reply:
"Sandy, if your male cousin is related to you on *his* mother's side, you
might match. If however he is related to you on his father's side, it would
be very unlikely that you would have an X match. ....."

I think Sarah's statements needs a slight clarification:
I would have thought:
" ..... if your male cousin is related to you on *his* mother's side,
you **will** match (as an X-match).
If however he is related to you on his father's side,
you **won't** have an X match. ....."

This clarification, if true, has ramifications into how one may
further conduct their research.

Secondly, as an extension of this question, my question would be, if
he indeed matches on his mother's side, then does he match on his
mother's mother's side, and thus on his mother's mother's side? OR
he matches on his mother's side, then form there, there is no telling
from the Family Finder whether he matches on his mother's mother's
side or mother's fatehr's side.
And similarly for the female, if she is marked "X" with someone - dors
this mean it is on her mother's mother's side, and thus mother's
mother's mother's side, or it could be on her mother's father's side?

If the answer to what exactly the "X-Match" means is the former, ie if
it is on the male's mother's mother's mother's ... side and the
female's mother's mother's mother's side - then the research comes lot
more easier and one will thus know that they match on their respective
strictly maternal lines, without having to do the mtDNA.

Shmuel Reuven Yoseph,
Ashqelon,
Y HG: "J2-M67"
mtDNA HG: "T2"


DNA Research #DNA Re: X matches to cousins #dna

Shmuel Yoseph <shruyo@...>
 

Shalom Sarah and Sandy,
Concerning Sarah's reply:
"Sandy, if your male cousin is related to you on *his* mother's side, you
might match. If however he is related to you on his father's side, it would
be very unlikely that you would have an X match. ....."

I think Sarah's statements needs a slight clarification:
I would have thought:
" ..... if your male cousin is related to you on *his* mother's side,
you **will** match (as an X-match).
If however he is related to you on his father's side,
you **won't** have an X match. ....."

This clarification, if true, has ramifications into how one may
further conduct their research.

Secondly, as an extension of this question, my question would be, if
he indeed matches on his mother's side, then does he match on his
mother's mother's side, and thus on his mother's mother's side? OR
he matches on his mother's side, then form there, there is no telling
from the Family Finder whether he matches on his mother's mother's
side or mother's fatehr's side.
And similarly for the female, if she is marked "X" with someone - dors
this mean it is on her mother's mother's side, and thus mother's
mother's mother's side, or it could be on her mother's father's side?

If the answer to what exactly the "X-Match" means is the former, ie if
it is on the male's mother's mother's mother's ... side and the
female's mother's mother's mother's side - then the research comes lot
more easier and one will thus know that they match on their respective
strictly maternal lines, without having to do the mtDNA.

Shmuel Reuven Yoseph,
Ashqelon,
Y HG: "J2-M67"
mtDNA HG: "T2"


Genealogical research LINDENBERGs in South Africa and Germany #general

Ann & Guy Beckett
 

Greetings Everyone,

Re :- My maternal LINDENBERG family

My great grandfather, Gustav Lindenberg, was a German Jew who emigrated from
Germany circa mid 1880's to settle in the Boer Republics, to be followed by
some of his brothers, one of whom was Herman Lindenberg.

Gustav is believed to have started one of the first gold mines in one of the
areas surrounding Klerksdorp, and together with his brother, Herman
established their family store-keeping business known as Lindenberg
Brothers. Gustav also served in the Prussian Army probably in the mid to
late 1870's, and was a Master of one of the local Freemason Lodges in the
then small fledgling and short-lived Boer Republic of Stellaland near
Vryburg.

Gustav could not bear to be without his childhood sweetheart, Josephine
Kunkel, and so briefly returned to Germany where they were married in 1894.
Their four children, Ellen, Clarice, Charles and Alfred (my grandfather)
were born in the Klerksdorp area in 1895, 1896, 1897 and 1898 respectively.
Ellen, Clarice and Alfred were baptised in the Catholic faith in the local
Catholic parish near Klerksdorp, but I have not been able to establish
whether Charles was a practising Catholic.

Gustav was wounded in action at the Battle of Magersfontein on 11 December
1899 and died the following day 12 December 1899 in the hands of the British
Forces, and was the second Jew to have so lost his life while fighting for
the Boers. He was a member of the Bloemhof Kommando but on the day fought in
the Swedish Contingent of the Scandinavian Corps on the side of the Boers.

His surviving spouse, Josephine and their four very young children were
interned in the British Concentration Camp in Klerksdorp, this, after their
properties and livestock were destroyed by the British Military. My great
grandmother, Josephine, must have been a heroine of some note. First she
lost her husband and then suffered the trauma of being interned in a
concentration camp and further being dispossessed of all her worldly goods
and means of livelihood, yet she stood by her children and brought them up.
What a role model she must have been for those who have suffered extreme
adversity in life.

My knowledge of my maternal Lindenberg side of my family is very scant
indeed. Josephine's granddaughter, Mary, was my mother who divorced my
father way back in 1958 when I was but only six years old. So I grew up not
knowing of or even being associated with the Lindenberg side of my family,
and this in large part is what is driving me to get to know who exactly my
great grandparents and their four children were and how they lived. I do not
even have a single photograph of any member of my Lindenberg family.

I would be most grateful for any assistance with my research into my
maternal Lindenberg family.

Regards,

Guy Beckett in Roodepoort, Gauteng, South Africa

MODERATOR NOTE - Please note: in messages to be posted, only surnames should be
placed in all upper case letters.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Genealogical research LINDENBERGs in South Africa and Germany #general

Ann & Guy Beckett
 

Greetings Everyone,

Re :- My maternal LINDENBERG family

My great grandfather, Gustav Lindenberg, was a German Jew who emigrated from
Germany circa mid 1880's to settle in the Boer Republics, to be followed by
some of his brothers, one of whom was Herman Lindenberg.

Gustav is believed to have started one of the first gold mines in one of the
areas surrounding Klerksdorp, and together with his brother, Herman
established their family store-keeping business known as Lindenberg
Brothers. Gustav also served in the Prussian Army probably in the mid to
late 1870's, and was a Master of one of the local Freemason Lodges in the
then small fledgling and short-lived Boer Republic of Stellaland near
Vryburg.

Gustav could not bear to be without his childhood sweetheart, Josephine
Kunkel, and so briefly returned to Germany where they were married in 1894.
Their four children, Ellen, Clarice, Charles and Alfred (my grandfather)
were born in the Klerksdorp area in 1895, 1896, 1897 and 1898 respectively.
Ellen, Clarice and Alfred were baptised in the Catholic faith in the local
Catholic parish near Klerksdorp, but I have not been able to establish
whether Charles was a practising Catholic.

Gustav was wounded in action at the Battle of Magersfontein on 11 December
1899 and died the following day 12 December 1899 in the hands of the British
Forces, and was the second Jew to have so lost his life while fighting for
the Boers. He was a member of the Bloemhof Kommando but on the day fought in
the Swedish Contingent of the Scandinavian Corps on the side of the Boers.

His surviving spouse, Josephine and their four very young children were
interned in the British Concentration Camp in Klerksdorp, this, after their
properties and livestock were destroyed by the British Military. My great
grandmother, Josephine, must have been a heroine of some note. First she
lost her husband and then suffered the trauma of being interned in a
concentration camp and further being dispossessed of all her worldly goods
and means of livelihood, yet she stood by her children and brought them up.
What a role model she must have been for those who have suffered extreme
adversity in life.

My knowledge of my maternal Lindenberg side of my family is very scant
indeed. Josephine's granddaughter, Mary, was my mother who divorced my
father way back in 1958 when I was but only six years old. So I grew up not
knowing of or even being associated with the Lindenberg side of my family,
and this in large part is what is driving me to get to know who exactly my
great grandparents and their four children were and how they lived. I do not
even have a single photograph of any member of my Lindenberg family.

I would be most grateful for any assistance with my research into my
maternal Lindenberg family.

Regards,

Guy Beckett in Roodepoort, Gauteng, South Africa

MODERATOR NOTE - Please note: in messages to be posted, only surnames should be
placed in all upper case letters.


Town in Pest County #hungary

michael_perl9@...
 

I am looking at two documents - one, a death entry in Budapest >from 1953 that lists a birthplace as what looks like Tajsz although hard to decipher.
In another birth entry in Mezoszilas, another person >from the same family gives her birth place as Tajsz, Pest Varmegye.
I have looked in many places, including the Bogardi Gazetteer for Pest and cannot find any name like it,, the closest being Tass.

Given the great knowledge in this forum, I was hoping someone could help me.
I have also uploaded excerpts >from the two documents in case I am reading it incorrectly.

Many thanks,

Michael


Hungary SIG #Hungary Town in Pest County #hungary

michael_perl9@...
 

I am looking at two documents - one, a death entry in Budapest >from 1953 that lists a birthplace as what looks like Tajsz although hard to decipher.
In another birth entry in Mezoszilas, another person >from the same family gives her birth place as Tajsz, Pest Varmegye.
I have looked in many places, including the Bogardi Gazetteer for Pest and cannot find any name like it,, the closest being Tass.

Given the great knowledge in this forum, I was hoping someone could help me.
I have also uploaded excerpts >from the two documents in case I am reading it incorrectly.

Many thanks,

Michael