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Finding the wife #general

jutel@...
 

The discussion of naturalisation brings to mind a challenge
I have had, and until recently, at least, had given up on
ever solving. My GGGparents, Samuel and Freda Steinberg,
apparently came to the US >from the old country in the early
1870s. It is likely that I have found Samuel. I have a
naturalisation certificate, a passenger list, and census
records. But, I have found no trace of Freda. Her presence
would help me to confirm that I have the correct Samuel
(although there is very little doubt). She isn't with him
on either of the census records, the naturalisation
certificate (to be expected) or the passenger list. Of
course, she might have died between census takings, as she
was not a young woman, but she is not in the death records
of Indiana or Kentucky (the only places her husband and
children lived) either. Has anyone got any suggestions? I
really want to see if I can find a death certificate (never
found Samuel's either, BTW), somehow, someway, because the
family seems to have been pretty good about filling them out
for everyone else, and this may give me details about her
own parents.

Thanks for any advice

Annemarie Jutel
Wellington, New Zealand

researching:
STEINBERG: Marijampole, Indiana, Kentucky; GOLDSTEIN:
Marijampole, Indianapolis; DROZDOWITZ: Plonsk, Zackroczym,
Ogden, Chicago, Indianapolis; MANHEIM: Ottensoos, SF Bay
area, HIRSCHLER: Manheim, Herxheim, SF Bay area.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Finding the wife #general

jutel@...
 

The discussion of naturalisation brings to mind a challenge
I have had, and until recently, at least, had given up on
ever solving. My GGGparents, Samuel and Freda Steinberg,
apparently came to the US >from the old country in the early
1870s. It is likely that I have found Samuel. I have a
naturalisation certificate, a passenger list, and census
records. But, I have found no trace of Freda. Her presence
would help me to confirm that I have the correct Samuel
(although there is very little doubt). She isn't with him
on either of the census records, the naturalisation
certificate (to be expected) or the passenger list. Of
course, she might have died between census takings, as she
was not a young woman, but she is not in the death records
of Indiana or Kentucky (the only places her husband and
children lived) either. Has anyone got any suggestions? I
really want to see if I can find a death certificate (never
found Samuel's either, BTW), somehow, someway, because the
family seems to have been pretty good about filling them out
for everyone else, and this may give me details about her
own parents.

Thanks for any advice

Annemarie Jutel
Wellington, New Zealand

researching:
STEINBERG: Marijampole, Indiana, Kentucky; GOLDSTEIN:
Marijampole, Indianapolis; DROZDOWITZ: Plonsk, Zackroczym,
Ogden, Chicago, Indianapolis; MANHEIM: Ottensoos, SF Bay
area, HIRSCHLER: Manheim, Herxheim, SF Bay area.


Re: Dad's Missing 1904 ships manifest #general

spolansm@...
 

Jewish Gen ID:169578

I have been trying to locate my dad Nathan SPOLANSKY’S 1904 ships manifest in to
Ellis Island New York City. With no success.
What I am looking for is where or what to look for, or where to go.
Must admit that I do have a great deal of documented information on the subject
and still can not locate this so called elusive record.
Do hope that you can lead me in the right direction.
Sincerely Mart

Martin Spolanasky


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Dad's Missing 1904 ships manifest #general

spolansm@...
 

Jewish Gen ID:169578

I have been trying to locate my dad Nathan SPOLANSKY’S 1904 ships manifest in to
Ellis Island New York City. With no success.
What I am looking for is where or what to look for, or where to go.
Must admit that I do have a great deal of documented information on the subject
and still can not locate this so called elusive record.
Do hope that you can lead me in the right direction.
Sincerely Mart

Martin Spolanasky


Re: Questions on Jewish Categories & Family Relations #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Alan Weiser" <alanboy@starpower.net> wrote in message
news:000f01c650df$a45809c0$ab012c42@alanboy...
Recently a gentleman with the same surname as mine inquired of me
whether I was a Cohen, Levy, or Israel. When I replied I was an
Israel, he responded there would be no family relationship because he
was a Levy.
I would suggest that with a little thought he would have realised he was
wrong.

My mother was the daughter of a Cohen. I am not.

If my mother had had a brother he would have been a Cohen, and so would his
children have been. My cousins in that case, would have been Cohanim,
whilst, as I say, I am not.


--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Questions on Jewish Categories & Family Relations #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Alan Weiser" <alanboy@starpower.net> wrote in message
news:000f01c650df$a45809c0$ab012c42@alanboy...
Recently a gentleman with the same surname as mine inquired of me
whether I was a Cohen, Levy, or Israel. When I replied I was an
Israel, he responded there would be no family relationship because he
was a Levy.
I would suggest that with a little thought he would have realised he was
wrong.

My mother was the daughter of a Cohen. I am not.

If my mother had had a brother he would have been a Cohen, and so would his
children have been. My cousins in that case, would have been Cohanim,
whilst, as I say, I am not.


--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)


Re: Mervyn LEVY #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Susan" <susanplouffe@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:001101c65153$ad255c00$0200a8c0@SuesToy...
I am wondering if anyone on the list has a pedigree of Mervyn LEVY,
artist/writer, friend of Dylan Thomas of Swansea, Wales 1915-1996. I have
not been able to establish if he is or is not related to my Levy family.
I am interested in the line of his father, Louis Levy. I do have
information about his mother Have RUBENSTEIN, who is >from an area in
Lithuania fairly close to where my family is from.
http://www.goantiques.com/detail,portrait-mervyn-levy,203736.html which
gives a longish biography refers to an obituary in The Independent of 17 May
1996 (page 18). The obituaries in that newspaper are very full and they
might possibly give some family background.

I don't think that their online obituaries go back that far but a university
library should have the newspaper.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Mervyn LEVY #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Susan" <susanplouffe@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:001101c65153$ad255c00$0200a8c0@SuesToy...
I am wondering if anyone on the list has a pedigree of Mervyn LEVY,
artist/writer, friend of Dylan Thomas of Swansea, Wales 1915-1996. I have
not been able to establish if he is or is not related to my Levy family.
I am interested in the line of his father, Louis Levy. I do have
information about his mother Have RUBENSTEIN, who is >from an area in
Lithuania fairly close to where my family is from.
http://www.goantiques.com/detail,portrait-mervyn-levy,203736.html which
gives a longish biography refers to an obituary in The Independent of 17 May
1996 (page 18). The obituaries in that newspaper are very full and they
might possibly give some family background.

I don't think that their online obituaries go back that far but a university
library should have the newspaper.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)


Re: NYC Birth Certificate Question #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Dear Danielle,
While technically, vital records older than 75 years are in the
public domain, until the NYC Dept of Health transfers those records
to the Municipal Archives, their own privacy rules apply. I was told
a few years ago by a worker at the Archives that they hadn't
transferred them because the Archives didn't have the staff to handle
the increased requests.

You may want to call the Dept of Health, and ask if they have
procedures in place for requests of a deceased individual; if you
include verification of death and the record is over 75 years old, if
they can fulfill the request?

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia

At 05:31 PM 3/29/2006, Danielle Ni Dhighe wrote:
I understand that in order to obtain a birth certificate >from the
New York City Department of Health, one needs the written permission
of the person the certificate is for. Does this restriction also
apply to an older birth record >from 1916?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: NYC Birth Certificate Question #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Dear Danielle,
While technically, vital records older than 75 years are in the
public domain, until the NYC Dept of Health transfers those records
to the Municipal Archives, their own privacy rules apply. I was told
a few years ago by a worker at the Archives that they hadn't
transferred them because the Archives didn't have the staff to handle
the increased requests.

You may want to call the Dept of Health, and ask if they have
procedures in place for requests of a deceased individual; if you
include verification of death and the record is over 75 years old, if
they can fulfill the request?

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia

At 05:31 PM 3/29/2006, Danielle Ni Dhighe wrote:
I understand that in order to obtain a birth certificate >from the
New York City Department of Health, one needs the written permission
of the person the certificate is for. Does this restriction also
apply to an older birth record >from 1916?


Re: Cohens and Levites #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"David Kravitz" <david_kravitz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BAY107-F15E7C0C33BEFB8CBC1B22D87D30@phx.gbl...

I once saw a man called up for the third aliyah, as "... ben so-and-so
halevi." It seems the father married a non-Jewish woman, so the son was
not a levi, but a ger. Nonetheless he cited his father's name as
"halevi".

Israel Pickholtz
If his mother was not Jewish, he was not Jewish either and should not have
been called up at all.
I presume when Mr Pickholtz says that the son was a ger, he means that he
had himself converted to Judaism and therefore he would have been perfectly
entitled to be called up.


--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Cohens and Levites #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"David Kravitz" <david_kravitz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BAY107-F15E7C0C33BEFB8CBC1B22D87D30@phx.gbl...

I once saw a man called up for the third aliyah, as "... ben so-and-so
halevi." It seems the father married a non-Jewish woman, so the son was
not a levi, but a ger. Nonetheless he cited his father's name as
"halevi".

Israel Pickholtz
If his mother was not Jewish, he was not Jewish either and should not have
been called up at all.
I presume when Mr Pickholtz says that the son was a ger, he means that he
had himself converted to Judaism and therefore he would have been perfectly
entitled to be called up.


--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)


Re: Displaced persons camp in North Africa #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

The Displaced Persons Camp in Philippeville is referred to in a footnote on
page 108
http://www.nerleelef.com/holocaust.pdf.

It is also referred to in two references in
http://www.nationaalarchief.nl/images/3_9566.pdf which is in Dutch.

Also http://www.claimscon.org/?url=swiss/awards33

Apparently it was in Algeria.


--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)


Re: Schneidermuhl (Poland) #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Miriam Margolyes" <75342.3217@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:200603300052_MC3-1-BBB8-96AB@compuserve.com...
Has anyone indexed the Schneidermuhl records?
I find that my SANDMAN family came >from neighbouring
Krojanke & would like to track them down.
Is it possibly worth noting that Krojanke was in Germany pre-WWII and is in
the area known as Pommerania - my ancestors also came >from there, but I
don't really have any more information than that.


--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Displaced persons camp in North Africa #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

The Displaced Persons Camp in Philippeville is referred to in a footnote on
page 108
http://www.nerleelef.com/holocaust.pdf.

It is also referred to in two references in
http://www.nationaalarchief.nl/images/3_9566.pdf which is in Dutch.

Also http://www.claimscon.org/?url=swiss/awards33

Apparently it was in Algeria.


--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Schneidermuhl (Poland) #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Miriam Margolyes" <75342.3217@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:200603300052_MC3-1-BBB8-96AB@compuserve.com...
Has anyone indexed the Schneidermuhl records?
I find that my SANDMAN family came >from neighbouring
Krojanke & would like to track them down.
Is it possibly worth noting that Krojanke was in Germany pre-WWII and is in
the area known as Pommerania - my ancestors also came >from there, but I
don't really have any more information than that.


--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)


Genealogical fishing expeditions #general

Wendygriswold <wendygriswold@...>
 

Dear cousins,

I just thought I'd pass this along in case someone else finds it useful.

Twice now in utter frustration I've gone on fishing expeditions and found
genealogical gold.

When I reached a brick wall researching my grandfather's family I went to
the Family Finder and found his mother's family. And turned up a distant
cousin who gave me the information I needed to find my grandfather's family
(the *correct* names of the family members, not the names I was finding in
old census records).

One sleepless night, totally frustrated at being unable to find my
grandmother or her brother on the EIDB, I pulled up every Blitz who ever hit
Ellis Island, and then looked at every manifest for every mutilation of the
hometown of Zurawno. And found two of my grandfather's brothers that I never
knew about.

Maybe frustration is the mother of invention.

Anyway, hope this gives someone an idea or two.

Best,

Wendy Griswold
Arlington VA

Searching: Blitz, Pfeiffer/Fifer (Zurawno, near Lvov),
Einhorn, Wenzelberg (any spelling), Shifuldrem (Nowy Sacz area)
Sorokoff (Ukraine/Vitebsk)
Schauer (Austria>USA)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Genealogical fishing expeditions #general

Wendygriswold <wendygriswold@...>
 

Dear cousins,

I just thought I'd pass this along in case someone else finds it useful.

Twice now in utter frustration I've gone on fishing expeditions and found
genealogical gold.

When I reached a brick wall researching my grandfather's family I went to
the Family Finder and found his mother's family. And turned up a distant
cousin who gave me the information I needed to find my grandfather's family
(the *correct* names of the family members, not the names I was finding in
old census records).

One sleepless night, totally frustrated at being unable to find my
grandmother or her brother on the EIDB, I pulled up every Blitz who ever hit
Ellis Island, and then looked at every manifest for every mutilation of the
hometown of Zurawno. And found two of my grandfather's brothers that I never
knew about.

Maybe frustration is the mother of invention.

Anyway, hope this gives someone an idea or two.

Best,

Wendy Griswold
Arlington VA

Searching: Blitz, Pfeiffer/Fifer (Zurawno, near Lvov),
Einhorn, Wenzelberg (any spelling), Shifuldrem (Nowy Sacz area)
Sorokoff (Ukraine/Vitebsk)
Schauer (Austria>USA)


Shanghai 1934-1941: persons registered at the Polish consulate #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

I found a relative on this site. Anyone know if it is possible to get a copy
of the page?
Rose Feldman
Tel-Aviv


Saadiah of Shklov #general

Chaim freedman
 

Seeking descendants of Saadiah ben Natan Nata of Shklov and Vilna), a
student of the Vilna Gaon. Died 1813 Jerusalem.

Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
chaimjan@zahav.net.il