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Re: MASZARFALVA, HUNGARY
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Peter <thidas@...>
Masz=E1rfalva, Russian village in Bereg County; in the 1830s 20 Jews =20
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lived there, estate of Count Sch=F6rnborn located here; ppl mainly =20 Greek Orthodox. Peter -----------------------
On 8-Feb-06, at 11:17 PM, Patricia J Weisshaus wrote:
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Re: h-sig digest: February 08, 2006
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jps
Eric -
>from Collins Latin Gem Dictionary:
circumfora~neus - itinerant; (money) borrowed perhaps a money lender?
educo - bring up, rear, train, produce a trainer or teacher? ?? equus - horse pilus - hair; pilosus - hairy groomer?
fa'ctor - batsman (sport)????
granaria - granary Miller? informatio - sketch, idea informo - shape, fashion, sketch, educate artist?? opifex - maker, craftsman, artisan quaestor - treasury official
John Segedy NH
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: MASZARFALVA, HUNGARY
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Peter <thidas@...>
Masz=E1rfalva, Russian village in Bereg County; in the 1830s 20 Jews =20
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lived there, estate of Count Sch=F6rnborn located here; ppl mainly =20 Greek Orthodox. Peter -----------------------
On 8-Feb-06, at 11:17 PM, Patricia J Weisshaus wrote:
Dear Group,.
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: h-sig digest: February 08, 2006
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jps
Eric -
>from Collins Latin Gem Dictionary:
circumfora~neus - itinerant; (money) borrowed perhaps a money lender?
educo - bring up, rear, train, produce a trainer or teacher? ?? equus - horse pilus - hair; pilosus - hairy groomer?
fa'ctor - batsman (sport)????
granaria - granary Miller? informatio - sketch, idea informo - shape, fashion, sketch, educate artist?? opifex - maker, craftsman, artisan quaestor - treasury official
John Segedy NH
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Re: Searching for a Village around Miskolc
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Peter <thidas@...>
The correct spelling of the hamlet is Muhi. It was located in Borsod
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county. Famous historical battle place. (Elek Fenyes, Magyarorszag geographiai szotara, II, p. 119 [1832]) Peter ---------------
On 8-Feb-06, at 4:41 PM, Shaul Sharoni wrote:
Dear Subscribers,
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Searching for a Village around Miskolc
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Peter <thidas@...>
The correct spelling of the hamlet is Muhi. It was located in Borsod
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county. Famous historical battle place. (Elek Fenyes, Magyarorszag geographiai szotara, II, p. 119 [1832]) Peter ---------------
On 8-Feb-06, at 4:41 PM, Shaul Sharoni wrote:
Dear Subscribers,
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Re: MASZARFALVA, HUNGARY
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Vivian Kahn
Maszarfalva was in Felvidek district of Bereg megye. Now Nehrove,
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Ukraine. Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
Dear Group,.
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Re: 1794 Hungarian Census
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Gábor Hirsch <g_hirsch@...>
If the complett address would be visible as below, it would be more
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comfortable to try (with or without success) as abroad the enquiry for a page go through transatlantic connections, several relay stations etc. http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7502 Now to the questionary, in my opinion in both cases (151 & 2) the given name is declared, for some reason the family name is missing and replaced with an N. for ?anonymous?, by 154 Josua the name is also missing. In all 3 cases Hazi Gazda, is marked which means "master of the house" and they have a wife, in Mayer N.-s household consists, him &, wife, 2 son and 1 doughter, 5 person Jakob N.-s household consists, him & wife, 1 son and 1 doughter, 4 person Josua N.-s household consists, him & wife, 2 sons and 3 doughter, 6 person At least this is my understanding. Best regards Gabor Hirsch
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: MASZARFALVA, HUNGARY
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Vivian Kahn
Maszarfalva was in Felvidek district of Bereg megye. Now Nehrove,
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Ukraine. Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
Dear Group,.
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: 1794 Hungarian Census
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Gábor Hirsch <g_hirsch@...>
If the complett address would be visible as below, it would be more
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comfortable to try (with or without success) as abroad the enquiry for a page go through transatlantic connections, several relay stations etc. http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7502 Now to the questionary, in my opinion in both cases (151 & 2) the given name is declared, for some reason the family name is missing and replaced with an N. for ?anonymous?, by 154 Josua the name is also missing. In all 3 cases Hazi Gazda, is marked which means "master of the house" and they have a wife, in Mayer N.-s household consists, him &, wife, 2 son and 1 doughter, 5 person Jakob N.-s household consists, him & wife, 1 son and 1 doughter, 4 person Josua N.-s household consists, him & wife, 2 sons and 3 doughter, 6 person At least this is my understanding. Best regards Gabor Hirsch
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MASZARFALVA, HUNGARY
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Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
Dear Group,.
Has anyone heard of this Maszarfalva, Hungary? I found it on a passenger list featuring Rosa Grosz. If this is the right person, it could possibly be near the Romanian border because her sister married a man >from Nyirbator. Thanks for any help that can be given. Pat
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Hungary SIG #Hungary MASZARFALVA, HUNGARY
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Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
Dear Group,.
Has anyone heard of this Maszarfalva, Hungary? I found it on a passenger list featuring Rosa Grosz. If this is the right person, it could possibly be near the Romanian border because her sister married a man >from Nyirbator. Thanks for any help that can be given. Pat
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Svir, Kurenitz, Dolginovo - RABINOWITZ & WEINER
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LiquidMirror <arnold.rabinowitz@...>
Looking for relatives who had emigrated earlier (or later).....
Emigrated >from Dolginovo + Kurenitz (1904+1906)died in New Haven,CT Joseph WEINER - tombstone reads "Yehoshua the son of Yirmiyahu" Rachel SKOLNICK - tombstone reads "Rachel,daughter of Reb Ari n Aryeh." Emigrated >from Svir + Kurenitz (1880+1890)died in New Haven,CT Nathan RABINOWITZ - tombstone reads "Reb Natan Note David,son of Sholomo Ze'ev" Jennie Rabinowitz - tombstone reads "Zlata Disa,daughter of Moshe Michoel" Thanks for your time A Rabinowitz
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The Infamous Volinski Wedding Certificate
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Steve Orlen
Dear Cousins,
I've put the whole copy of the certificate verifying the 7th February 1897 London marriage of my 3xgreat-uncle Israel VOLINSKY (aka WOLINSKI aka both ending with a "y" aka WOLIN) age 56 to the widow Betsy ESSERLES age 39. The certificate says he is a carpenter. As the certificate states, Israel was divorced >from Ethel VOLENSKY, "formerly..." It is Ethel's former name I cannot make out. Also I can't quite make out the given name and surname of Betsy's father; and I wonder what "gentleman" meant at the time (a guy out of work?) Israel was born in c1845 in Boguslav, about 60 kilometers SSE of Kiev on the Ross River. I don't know when he and his sister Gussie (aka Augusta aka misspelled on the 1901 census as Gissie) arrived in London, or where they were before that. I know they were living in Odessa at some time before traveling abroad. On the 1901 census Gussie is living with Israel and his new family (Betsy's two daughters), and is Single. However, I had been told by cousin Joe that she was married to a man named something like SHURAYTZ or SHURETS or SHERETS, and that they had no children. In the 1901 census, Israel's occupation is given as art framer, and that he was working out of his home. For your entertainment, I'll offer a thumbnail description of Israel, given to me in 1980 by his grandnephew Joe Wolins: "A cruel & formidable intellectual who unwittingly inspired wanderlust in our entire family. He eventually moved to London where he lived permanently & haunted the British Museum. He opened an art gallery; he sired several illegitimate offspring. In his later years he became a gentle benevolent senior citizen & pleaded to be allowed to come to America. But the family never forgave his indiscretions & bluntly refused his appeals. I just missed meeting him in London in 1937 as he died in 1936 at the age of 91." Best, Steve Orlen Tucson, AZ
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Svir, Kurenitz, Dolginovo - RABINOWITZ & WEINER
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LiquidMirror <arnold.rabinowitz@...>
Looking for relatives who had emigrated earlier (or later).....
Emigrated >from Dolginovo + Kurenitz (1904+1906)died in New Haven,CT Joseph WEINER - tombstone reads "Yehoshua the son of Yirmiyahu" Rachel SKOLNICK - tombstone reads "Rachel,daughter of Reb Ari n Aryeh." Emigrated >from Svir + Kurenitz (1880+1890)died in New Haven,CT Nathan RABINOWITZ - tombstone reads "Reb Natan Note David,son of Sholomo Ze'ev" Jennie Rabinowitz - tombstone reads "Zlata Disa,daughter of Moshe Michoel" Thanks for your time A Rabinowitz
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The Infamous Volinski Wedding Certificate
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Steve Orlen
Dear Cousins,
I've put the whole copy of the certificate verifying the 7th February 1897 London marriage of my 3xgreat-uncle Israel VOLINSKY (aka WOLINSKI aka both ending with a "y" aka WOLIN) age 56 to the widow Betsy ESSERLES age 39. The certificate says he is a carpenter. As the certificate states, Israel was divorced >from Ethel VOLENSKY, "formerly..." It is Ethel's former name I cannot make out. Also I can't quite make out the given name and surname of Betsy's father; and I wonder what "gentleman" meant at the time (a guy out of work?) Israel was born in c1845 in Boguslav, about 60 kilometers SSE of Kiev on the Ross River. I don't know when he and his sister Gussie (aka Augusta aka misspelled on the 1901 census as Gissie) arrived in London, or where they were before that. I know they were living in Odessa at some time before traveling abroad. On the 1901 census Gussie is living with Israel and his new family (Betsy's two daughters), and is Single. However, I had been told by cousin Joe that she was married to a man named something like SHURAYTZ or SHURETS or SHERETS, and that they had no children. In the 1901 census, Israel's occupation is given as art framer, and that he was working out of his home. For your entertainment, I'll offer a thumbnail description of Israel, given to me in 1980 by his grandnephew Joe Wolins: "A cruel & formidable intellectual who unwittingly inspired wanderlust in our entire family. He eventually moved to London where he lived permanently & haunted the British Museum. He opened an art gallery; he sired several illegitimate offspring. In his later years he became a gentle benevolent senior citizen & pleaded to be allowed to come to America. But the family never forgave his indiscretions & bluntly refused his appeals. I just missed meeting him in London in 1937 as he died in 1936 at the age of 91." Best, Steve Orlen Tucson, AZ
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Cluj Jewish cemetery
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Jordan Auslander <jausland@...>
The Jewish burial registry for the main Jewish cemetery in Cluj is at:
Cluj Jewish Community Office, entrance rear 25 Tipografia St (Dr. Gavrila Goldner ph 433-470) Jordan Auslander
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1794 Hungarian Census
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Eric M. Bloch
In response to my prior message about finding the letter "N" in lieu of
a surname for some people on a 1794 Hungarian Census, it was suggested that an example be put on Viewmate. Please go to http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html and look for VM7502. You will see two examples of the letter N in place of a surname, and one example of a given name with no surname or letter N. It has been suggested that in those cases where the N appears, there is a surname but it was unknown, whereas the absence of an N means the individual did not have a surname. The Latin term "nomen nescio, abbreviated to N.N., is used to signify an anonymous or non-specific person. The literal translation is "I don't know (his) name." Perhaps the single N stands for "nescio," meaning "not knowing." Any additional thoughts would be appreciated. Eric M. Bloch Coordinator, Other Hungarian Censuses and Tax Lists
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Re: Update Joodsmonument.nl
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Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
Stefan Pinkus wrote on 09 feb 2006 in soc.genealogy.jewish:
Correction: Joodsmonument contains the names of all Jews in theSo both those who were killed in camps in the Netherlands, or were killed otherwise *and* all that were deported >from the Netherlands and were killed [in camps] elsewhere. [My GGF, who died (supposedly) peacefully in The Hague, 14/3/1941, is not included.] Many German and EastEuropean Jews had found shelter in the Netherlands between 1934 and 1940. [example: the Annelies Marie (Anne) Frank family] That is the main group Stefan refers to, I think. ========== It is a pitty that with the new version of Joodsmonument.nl all old numeric links are wrong/lost, since all [virual] pages are renumbered. As I kept those links as part of my reseach, all those links have to be updated >from the name-place-date data. On the good side, mistake mails sent before september 2005, have lead to corrections, according to: <http://www.joodsmonument.nl/article.php?thg_id=1005.776&;lang=en> -- Evertjan Hannivoort. The Netherlands. (Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Cluj Jewish cemetery
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Jordan Auslander <jausland@...>
The Jewish burial registry for the main Jewish cemetery in Cluj is at:
Cluj Jewish Community Office, entrance rear 25 Tipografia St (Dr. Gavrila Goldner ph 433-470) Jordan Auslander
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