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Re: Motis-Mendl/Emanuel #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Benzy wrote:

I live in Israel, where ...... about the only chance you
have of meeting someone who answers "Mordechai" to the question "What's your
name?" is to wander in Haredi neighborhoods. This applies, by the way, to
non-Ashkenazim too.
That surprises me -- because the name Mordechai used to be very
common also among non-Haredim. It occurs in the families of both of
my parents. It was much used in my maternal Dutch-Jewish Ashkenazi
family, where it went back to an 18th-century ancestor described only
as "Mordechai mi-Amsterdam" in the record of his son's marriage at
the Great Synagogue in London in 1793. That was my gg gf. Both he and
his grandson, my gf, were named Mark Marks -- both having the
Hebrew name Mordechai -- and of course the surname Marks likewise
stemmed ultimately >from that name.

On the other side, my paternal g gf (>from Poland) was also a
Mordechai -- as I learned >from my zayde's gravestone in London. So
my son Mark (Mordechai) was named after a whole bunch of non-Haredi
ancestors.

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Motis-Mendl/Emanuel #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Benzy wrote:

I live in Israel, where ...... about the only chance you
have of meeting someone who answers "Mordechai" to the question "What's your
name?" is to wander in Haredi neighborhoods. This applies, by the way, to
non-Ashkenazim too.
That surprises me -- because the name Mordechai used to be very
common also among non-Haredim. It occurs in the families of both of
my parents. It was much used in my maternal Dutch-Jewish Ashkenazi
family, where it went back to an 18th-century ancestor described only
as "Mordechai mi-Amsterdam" in the record of his son's marriage at
the Great Synagogue in London in 1793. That was my gg gf. Both he and
his grandson, my gf, were named Mark Marks -- both having the
Hebrew name Mordechai -- and of course the surname Marks likewise
stemmed ultimately >from that name.

On the other side, my paternal g gf (>from Poland) was also a
Mordechai -- as I learned >from my zayde's gravestone in London. So
my son Mark (Mordechai) was named after a whole bunch of non-Haredi
ancestors.

Judith Romney Wegner


Re: Motis-Mendl/Emanuel #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Steve Orlen" wrote

I have two questions to ask: 1) My 3xgreat-grandfather was >from Boguslav
in the Ukraine. I was told his name was "Motis-Mendl" (WOLINSKY). The
name "Mendl" I know, of course, but what could "Motis" refer to, or be a
misspelling of? 2) On his son's marriage certificate (London, 1897) his
name is given as "Emanuel." Are there any connections among these names?
Motis or Matis is probably Yiddish version of Matias (Matthias, Matheus)
from Hebrew Mattityahu.
No connection to Emanuel, he could select any name he wanted to or liked to,
to be known in his new country.

BTW Russian version of Matias is Matvey, many Russian Jews have selected
this name during the assimilation trend, and in Poland name Mateusz was
adopted in the similar circumstances.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Motis-Mendl/Emanuel #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Steve Orlen" wrote

I have two questions to ask: 1) My 3xgreat-grandfather was >from Boguslav
in the Ukraine. I was told his name was "Motis-Mendl" (WOLINSKY). The
name "Mendl" I know, of course, but what could "Motis" refer to, or be a
misspelling of? 2) On his son's marriage certificate (London, 1897) his
name is given as "Emanuel." Are there any connections among these names?
Motis or Matis is probably Yiddish version of Matias (Matthias, Matheus)
from Hebrew Mattityahu.
No connection to Emanuel, he could select any name he wanted to or liked to,
to be known in his new country.

BTW Russian version of Matias is Matvey, many Russian Jews have selected
this name during the assimilation trend, and in Poland name Mateusz was
adopted in the similar circumstances.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB


Translation of Russian / Ukraine document VM7469 - Please #ukraine

David M Cooper
 

Hello,

I'm tracing my family (COOPERBERG) that were >from Zinkivitz near Kamenetz -
Podolsk. The view mate document VM7469 may relate to my family and hopefully
will identify the correct family name?

Your help in translation would be most appreciated.

David Cooper

david@dmcooper.co.uk

Manchester, UK


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Translation of Russian / Ukraine document VM7469 - Please #ukraine

David M Cooper
 

Hello,

I'm tracing my family (COOPERBERG) that were >from Zinkivitz near Kamenetz -
Podolsk. The view mate document VM7469 may relate to my family and hopefully
will identify the correct family name?

Your help in translation would be most appreciated.

David Cooper

david@dmcooper.co.uk

Manchester, UK


Philadelphia look-up - Marriage Index -please help.. #general

Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I desperately need someone in Philadelphia to help with a look-up in the
Marriage Index which I believe is 1917-38, although the years I am looking
for are approx between 1922-28.

If anyone can assist please contact me privately for more details.

Thanking you in anticipation.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Philadelphia look-up - Marriage Index -please help.. #general

Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I desperately need someone in Philadelphia to help with a look-up in the
Marriage Index which I believe is 1917-38, although the years I am looking
for are approx between 1922-28.

If anyone can assist please contact me privately for more details.

Thanking you in anticipation.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)


Heppner and Herzberg Book - Jews of Posen available via download #germany

Geoff Kaiser <geoff_kaiser@...>
 

Dear researchers
I have recently learned that this book is available on the internet (for free).
It requires downloading a 45 MB file.

www.wbc.poznan.pl/dlibra/docmetadata?id=14995&from=globalsearch&dirids=1

Click on the disk icon to download the whole book.

You will need a good fast internet connection as the file is so large.
You also need to download some free software to read the files. Guidance on
this will appear when you go to the original link.

I had no problems with this, just slow. I have been advised that the book
is an excellent resource to those with an interest in the Posen region. regards

Geoff Kaiser Melbourne <geoff_kaiser@hotmail.com>


German SIG #Germany Heppner and Herzberg Book - Jews of Posen available via download #germany

Geoff Kaiser <geoff_kaiser@...>
 

Dear researchers
I have recently learned that this book is available on the internet (for free).
It requires downloading a 45 MB file.

www.wbc.poznan.pl/dlibra/docmetadata?id=14995&from=globalsearch&dirids=1

Click on the disk icon to download the whole book.

You will need a good fast internet connection as the file is so large.
You also need to download some free software to read the files. Guidance on
this will appear when you go to the original link.

I had no problems with this, just slow. I have been advised that the book
is an excellent resource to those with an interest in the Posen region. regards

Geoff Kaiser Melbourne <geoff_kaiser@hotmail.com>


February Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia #general

JGLois@...
 

February Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia

Date: Sunday, February 12, 2006
Time: 1:30 PM
Place: Reform Congregation Keneseth Israel
8339 Old York Road
Intersection of Old York Road (Route 611)
and Township Line (Route 73)
Elkins Park, PA


******
Genealogy in the Round: Stories and Helpful Hints >from Your Fellow
Genealogists

Come join your fellow genealogists for a spirited and open exchange of
genealogical experiences. JGSGP members will be able to share their highs and
lows in family history research through a town hall format. Instead of
the usual professionals lecturing an audience, we'll all be the
experts-in-residence relating stories and learning >from each other.

******
For all who are researching Philadelphia roots and need information
on local resources; cemeteries, funeral directors, repositories (and
much more) please visit the JGSGP website:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsp

****
Interested friends are always welcome!
There is a $2.00 admission charge for non-members.
Refreshments will be served following the meeting

****

Lois Sernoff [JGS GreaterPhiladelphia]
<JGLois@aol.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen February Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia #general

JGLois@...
 

February Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia

Date: Sunday, February 12, 2006
Time: 1:30 PM
Place: Reform Congregation Keneseth Israel
8339 Old York Road
Intersection of Old York Road (Route 611)
and Township Line (Route 73)
Elkins Park, PA


******
Genealogy in the Round: Stories and Helpful Hints >from Your Fellow
Genealogists

Come join your fellow genealogists for a spirited and open exchange of
genealogical experiences. JGSGP members will be able to share their highs and
lows in family history research through a town hall format. Instead of
the usual professionals lecturing an audience, we'll all be the
experts-in-residence relating stories and learning >from each other.

******
For all who are researching Philadelphia roots and need information
on local resources; cemeteries, funeral directors, repositories (and
much more) please visit the JGSGP website:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsp

****
Interested friends are always welcome!
There is a $2.00 admission charge for non-members.
Refreshments will be served following the meeting

****

Lois Sernoff [JGS GreaterPhiladelphia]
<JGLois@aol.com>


Re: Dupuytren's Contracture - Scandinavian ancestry of German Jews ? #germany

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/6/2006 rcsonne@msn.com wrote:
" . . . . I was diagnosed with Dupuytren's, . . . .My physician (and
confirmed on the Internet) said this means that somewhere in my past -- e.g.,
heretitary -- "I have Viking roots!" I said sure, northern Germany.
"No," said he, "Viking, as in Scandinavia." Anyone heard of a possibility that
1700 German families could have emigrated >from that part of the world and,
if so, has anyone traced their roots further back to that locale, and how?"=====>

==There were laws against admitting Jews into the Scandinavian countries
until the end of the 18th century, but there were occasional groups of Jews who
lived there for relatively brief periods.

==But that isn't really the issue. Dupuytren's is not something you catch
from your neighbors but what you inherit >from your ancestors. Which would
suggest that you have a Viking ancestor, not just a Jew who lived among Vikings.

==Three possibilities for your hands-on connection:

1. Our Jewish ancestors, making their way into northern Europe pre 1000CE,
as merchants or soldiers, took local wives in the absence of Jewish women

2. The Vikings, raiders and rapists, frequently assaulted communities in
continental Europe. Perhas one of your n-gms was a victim

3. The Swedish army invaded Europe, via Lithuania and Poland under King
Gustavus Adolfus and again during the 30 Years War (perhaps the same event?).
The soldiers were not familiar with the Geneva Conventions.

I hope you get the best treatment and will soon be cured.

Michael Bernet, New York MBernet@aol.com


German SIG #Germany Re: Dupuytren's Contracture - Scandinavian ancestry of German Jews ? #germany

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/6/2006 rcsonne@msn.com wrote:
" . . . . I was diagnosed with Dupuytren's, . . . .My physician (and
confirmed on the Internet) said this means that somewhere in my past -- e.g.,
heretitary -- "I have Viking roots!" I said sure, northern Germany.
"No," said he, "Viking, as in Scandinavia." Anyone heard of a possibility that
1700 German families could have emigrated >from that part of the world and,
if so, has anyone traced their roots further back to that locale, and how?"=====>

==There were laws against admitting Jews into the Scandinavian countries
until the end of the 18th century, but there were occasional groups of Jews who
lived there for relatively brief periods.

==But that isn't really the issue. Dupuytren's is not something you catch
from your neighbors but what you inherit >from your ancestors. Which would
suggest that you have a Viking ancestor, not just a Jew who lived among Vikings.

==Three possibilities for your hands-on connection:

1. Our Jewish ancestors, making their way into northern Europe pre 1000CE,
as merchants or soldiers, took local wives in the absence of Jewish women

2. The Vikings, raiders and rapists, frequently assaulted communities in
continental Europe. Perhas one of your n-gms was a victim

3. The Swedish army invaded Europe, via Lithuania and Poland under King
Gustavus Adolfus and again during the 30 Years War (perhaps the same event?).
The soldiers were not familiar with the Geneva Conventions.

I hope you get the best treatment and will soon be cured.

Michael Bernet, New York MBernet@aol.com


Gilgenburg Synagouge and Jews in EastPrussia #germany

Fred Zimmak <Fred.Zimmak@...>
 

Dear Genners,
I just found the a photo of the synagouge in Gilgenburg wich I uploaded to
Jewishgen viewmate:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7484

Gilgenburg is >from where my ancestors came from. That's why this synagouge is
intresting for me. There are also some other people in Jewishgen with
ancestors >from Gilgenburg.

I found the photo in this nice book wich I bought recently:
Juden in Ostpreusen, Husum 1998 (Jews in Eastprussia), written in German.

In this book there are very many photos >from different places and persons in
Eastprussia. Very many photos >from famous Jews, for example the Friedländer family
and also >from Königsberg. But also many pohtos >from smaller towns in Eastprussia.
There is also litte about the history of the Jews in Eastprussia.

Sadly there is no index of towns and persons, so you have to search
trough the book for specific people or towns.

For any question about this book, please respond to me privatly. Kind regards,

Fred Zimmak / Stockholm, Sweden <Fred.Zimmak@Chello.Se>


German SIG #Germany Gilgenburg Synagouge and Jews in EastPrussia #germany

Fred Zimmak <Fred.Zimmak@...>
 

Dear Genners,
I just found the a photo of the synagouge in Gilgenburg wich I uploaded to
Jewishgen viewmate:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7484

Gilgenburg is >from where my ancestors came from. That's why this synagouge is
intresting for me. There are also some other people in Jewishgen with
ancestors >from Gilgenburg.

I found the photo in this nice book wich I bought recently:
Juden in Ostpreusen, Husum 1998 (Jews in Eastprussia), written in German.

In this book there are very many photos >from different places and persons in
Eastprussia. Very many photos >from famous Jews, for example the Friedländer family
and also >from Königsberg. But also many pohtos >from smaller towns in Eastprussia.
There is also litte about the history of the Jews in Eastprussia.

Sadly there is no index of towns and persons, so you have to search
trough the book for specific people or towns.

For any question about this book, please respond to me privatly. Kind regards,

Fred Zimmak / Stockholm, Sweden <Fred.Zimmak@Chello.Se>


Re: Motis-Mendl/Emanuel #general

Jules Levin
 

At 08:20 AM 2/6/2006, you wrote:
Or was Menachem often given as a name for other reasons too?

Simon Tardell,
Stockholm, Sweden.
Every Chabad family we know has at least one boy named Menachem
Mendel, in honor of a/the Rebbe.
In large gatherings there are so many Mendies (seems to be the most
common nickname used) around it is comical.
Jules Levin
Los Angeles


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Motis-Mendl/Emanuel #general

Jules Levin
 

At 08:20 AM 2/6/2006, you wrote:
Or was Menachem often given as a name for other reasons too?

Simon Tardell,
Stockholm, Sweden.
Every Chabad family we know has at least one boy named Menachem
Mendel, in honor of a/the Rebbe.
In large gatherings there are so many Mendies (seems to be the most
common nickname used) around it is comical.
Jules Levin
Los Angeles


Searching Evan Derrek FINE #general

loufine@...
 

HI Genners

Thanks to all those folks who helped me find Steven SCHWAMENFELD.
I talked to his mum.

Now I'm looking for:

Evan Derrek FINE born circa 1963, wife Dena

He is probably a citizen and resident of Toronto Ontario Canada

I have searched 411 Canada with no tesults

please respond privately.

--
Louis A. Fine
Bellingham WA98225

E-mail: loufine@comcast.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching Evan Derrek FINE #general

loufine@...
 

HI Genners

Thanks to all those folks who helped me find Steven SCHWAMENFELD.
I talked to his mum.

Now I'm looking for:

Evan Derrek FINE born circa 1963, wife Dena

He is probably a citizen and resident of Toronto Ontario Canada

I have searched 411 Canada with no tesults

please respond privately.

--
Louis A. Fine
Bellingham WA98225

E-mail: loufine@comcast.net