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What happened to the Ortsbuch? #germany

Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
 

There used to be a wonderful site that I used frequently, the work of
a doctoral student, that gave the prewar voting statistics on German
parties in every little village, so that you could see if the area
had been very pro-Nazi. It broke down the population numbers by
religious affiliation as well. The site seems to have disappeared.

http://www.literad.de/geschichte/ortsbuchv.html

Does anyone know where the site went or if it was just pulled off the
net and why?

Martha Lev-Zion Israel <martha@...>

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German SIG #Germany What happened to the Ortsbuch? #germany

Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
 

There used to be a wonderful site that I used frequently, the work of
a doctoral student, that gave the prewar voting statistics on German
parties in every little village, so that you could see if the area
had been very pro-Nazi. It broke down the population numbers by
religious affiliation as well. The site seems to have disappeared.

http://www.literad.de/geschichte/ortsbuchv.html

Does anyone know where the site went or if it was just pulled off the
net and why?

Martha Lev-Zion Israel <martha@...>

MODERATOR NOTE: This was a useful resource. Please report to the Forum if
you can locate the site. JPL


1938 passenger manifest - second half of page? #general

Monica Talmor
 

The scanned passenger manifest of a 1938 New York arrival available on a
commercial site only has the left side of the page scanned (I went through
all the images for that ship, none of the right sides of the pages are
there. It's clear that half is missing because the heading of each page is
"List or Manifest of Alien Passengers to the United", and there should be
another half which should have the rest of the heading, "States of America"
(as in all the manifests on the Ellis Island site, most of which have 2
scans for each page). According to the site, the images were copied >from
NARA films. Does anyone know if the NARA films have the second half of the
pages or not? I can order the NARA film through my local FHL, but only if I
know that it would indeed be a complete image.

Monica Talmor
Hamden, CT


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1938 passenger manifest - second half of page? #general

Monica Talmor
 

The scanned passenger manifest of a 1938 New York arrival available on a
commercial site only has the left side of the page scanned (I went through
all the images for that ship, none of the right sides of the pages are
there. It's clear that half is missing because the heading of each page is
"List or Manifest of Alien Passengers to the United", and there should be
another half which should have the rest of the heading, "States of America"
(as in all the manifests on the Ellis Island site, most of which have 2
scans for each page). According to the site, the images were copied >from
NARA films. Does anyone know if the NARA films have the second half of the
pages or not? I can order the NARA film through my local FHL, but only if I
know that it would indeed be a complete image.

Monica Talmor
Hamden, CT


Re: Kobelagova, Poland #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:46:36 UTC, mtalmor@... (Monica Talmor)
opined:

On a 1938 passenger manifest into Ellis Island, the town of birth of a
friend's grandmother is clearly listed as Kobelagova, Poland. The manifest
is typed, so other than possible typos it's clear. Needless to say, there is
no such place, but Shetel Seeker did give a couple of possibilities in
Poland. The lady in question was married to a man >from Breslau (Wroklaw now)
and lived in Breslau, so chances are her birth town was close by. I'm
looking for possible today localities for this town, >from people familiar
with Polish and German who can better interpret what might be a phonetic
spelling.
For what it's worth, it isn't "Wroklaw", but "Wroclaw". The difference
is greater than may appear, since the "C" sounds like English "TS",
rather than like "K". Other differences: The two "W"s sound like
English "V"s, and the "L" (because it is a "Crossed L", a special
Polish character) sounds more like a "W" than anything else.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com

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is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Kobelagova, Poland #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:46:36 UTC, mtalmor@... (Monica Talmor)
opined:

On a 1938 passenger manifest into Ellis Island, the town of birth of a
friend's grandmother is clearly listed as Kobelagova, Poland. The manifest
is typed, so other than possible typos it's clear. Needless to say, there is
no such place, but Shetel Seeker did give a couple of possibilities in
Poland. The lady in question was married to a man >from Breslau (Wroklaw now)
and lived in Breslau, so chances are her birth town was close by. I'm
looking for possible today localities for this town, >from people familiar
with Polish and German who can better interpret what might be a phonetic
spelling.
For what it's worth, it isn't "Wroklaw", but "Wroclaw". The difference
is greater than may appear, since the "C" sounds like English "TS",
rather than like "K". Other differences: The two "W"s sound like
English "V"s, and the "L" (because it is a "Crossed L", a special
Polish character) sounds more like a "W" than anything else.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address
is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


Re: Trip to Mainz & Munich #germany

jane voegel-kochai <vogelko@...>
 

Many thanks to all those who have pointed out that June is when the World Soccer
Cup will be held in Germany and that perhaps this might affect my planning.
Also, thanks for pointing out links for me to check out on the Intenet.
Does anyone have any specific recommendations due to personal experience?
Many thanks again!

Jane Vogel-Kohai Moshav Mesillat Tzion Israel <vogelko@...>


BRODSKY, VIGDOMCHIK or VIGDOKCHIK from Piria, Kharkov and Leningrad #general

Marcel Apsel <marat@...>
 

I am looking for information about Jossif Itskowitch BRODSKY who lived
between 1917 and 1934 in Piria, Kharkov and Leningrad in the former Soviet
Union. Jossif Itskowitch BRODSKY had also a brother Alexander BRODSKY. He
had a daughter with the name 'Machia' who went to live in the region of
Sotchi.

I am also looking for the family VIGDOMCHIK or VIGDOKCHIK >from Poltavae,
Ukraine.

Marcel Apsel
Antwerpen, Belgium

marat@...


German SIG #Germany Re: Trip to Mainz & Munich #germany

jane voegel-kochai <vogelko@...>
 

Many thanks to all those who have pointed out that June is when the World Soccer
Cup will be held in Germany and that perhaps this might affect my planning.
Also, thanks for pointing out links for me to check out on the Intenet.
Does anyone have any specific recommendations due to personal experience?
Many thanks again!

Jane Vogel-Kohai Moshav Mesillat Tzion Israel <vogelko@...>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BRODSKY, VIGDOMCHIK or VIGDOKCHIK from Piria, Kharkov and Leningrad #general

Marcel Apsel <marat@...>
 

I am looking for information about Jossif Itskowitch BRODSKY who lived
between 1917 and 1934 in Piria, Kharkov and Leningrad in the former Soviet
Union. Jossif Itskowitch BRODSKY had also a brother Alexander BRODSKY. He
had a daughter with the name 'Machia' who went to live in the region of
Sotchi.

I am also looking for the family VIGDOMCHIK or VIGDOKCHIK >from Poltavae,
Ukraine.

Marcel Apsel
Antwerpen, Belgium

marat@...


Re: Pressburg Yeshiva Photos & information #rabbinic

Tomer Brunner
 

On 2005.12.16, Eric Friedman" <radonc1970@...> wrote:

My great-grandfather Shlomo Yitzchak (Ignac) FRIEDMANN attended the
Pressburg Yeshiva in the time period ~1895-1905. I'm trying to find
a record of him in the Yeshiva and a photo of him if possible. I'd
appreciate any help or advice that anyone might have in obtaining
this information.
Few years ago I spoke with Rabbi Karpfen, who is the manager of the
Pressburg Yeshiva in Givat-Shaul in Jerusalem. He told me that they
don't have records >from the period the Yeshiva was in Slovakia.

Some photos of students do exist.

I know of at least 2 photos (with names) >from around 1935-1937 and
one (without names) >from around 1901 (I believe that only few of the
students at that time are in the photo) This last one can be seen in
the ViewMate archives at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=4380
(Thanks to Pamela Weisberger for putting it there!)

Another photo >from around 1899, if I remember correctly, was
included in a book about the students of the Pressburg Yeshiva,
which was published last year by "Machon Zikaron" (research
institute of rabbis and communities of Hungary), Bnei-Brak.

Regards,
Tomer Brunner, Israel


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic RE: Pressburg Yeshiva Photos & information #rabbinic

Tomer Brunner
 

On 2005.12.16, Eric Friedman" <radonc1970@...> wrote:

My great-grandfather Shlomo Yitzchak (Ignac) FRIEDMANN attended the
Pressburg Yeshiva in the time period ~1895-1905. I'm trying to find
a record of him in the Yeshiva and a photo of him if possible. I'd
appreciate any help or advice that anyone might have in obtaining
this information.
Few years ago I spoke with Rabbi Karpfen, who is the manager of the
Pressburg Yeshiva in Givat-Shaul in Jerusalem. He told me that they
don't have records >from the period the Yeshiva was in Slovakia.

Some photos of students do exist.

I know of at least 2 photos (with names) >from around 1935-1937 and
one (without names) >from around 1901 (I believe that only few of the
students at that time are in the photo) This last one can be seen in
the ViewMate archives at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=4380
(Thanks to Pamela Weisberger for putting it there!)

Another photo >from around 1899, if I remember correctly, was
included in a book about the students of the Pressburg Yeshiva,
which was published last year by "Machon Zikaron" (research
institute of rabbis and communities of Hungary), Bnei-Brak.

Regards,
Tomer Brunner, Israel


Sin usage #romania

Sorin Goldenberg <SorinG@...>
 

One thing that I have noticed is those Romanian x sin y that I found in
the Internet (OK - really not scientific or accurate >from statistical
point of view) usually do have family names. It is used to denote that x
is the son of y.

Now >from the point of view of Jewish tradition a person's identity is x
son of Y, and the surname is not relevant to it. I guess that jews kept
this tradition as best as they can. Since Romania did not required them
to adopt a surname, until late 19th century, they did not bother, and
by the way my mother tells me that she had a colleague during her
studies at the Iasi university in mid 50s (again >from Botosani) called
sin something.

Regards

Sorin Goldenberg
Israel


Romania SIG #Romania Sin usage #romania

Sorin Goldenberg <SorinG@...>
 

One thing that I have noticed is those Romanian x sin y that I found in
the Internet (OK - really not scientific or accurate >from statistical
point of view) usually do have family names. It is used to denote that x
is the son of y.

Now >from the point of view of Jewish tradition a person's identity is x
son of Y, and the surname is not relevant to it. I guess that jews kept
this tradition as best as they can. Since Romania did not required them
to adopt a surname, until late 19th century, they did not bother, and
by the way my mother tells me that she had a colleague during her
studies at the Iasi university in mid 50s (again >from Botosani) called
sin something.

Regards

Sorin Goldenberg
Israel


Record of arrivals at London docks in the 1860's #unitedkingdom

N.Landau@...
 

Are there records of arrivals at London docks in the 1860's in the same way
as there are at Ellis Island?

Has anyone managed to locate the arrival of an ancestor in this way?

I see >from http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/leaflets/ri2157.htm
that Passenger Lists are only available >from 1878 onwards.

I have found the website "Anglo-Jewish History, 18th-20th Centuries: Sources
in The National Archives"
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/Leaflets/ri2183.htm

Unfortunately the link on Immigration in Section 5 doesn't work. I have
reported this to the Archive.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Record of arrivals at London docks in the 1860's #unitedkingdom

N.Landau@...
 

Are there records of arrivals at London docks in the 1860's in the same way
as there are at Ellis Island?

Has anyone managed to locate the arrival of an ancestor in this way?

I see >from http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/leaflets/ri2157.htm
that Passenger Lists are only available >from 1878 onwards.

I have found the website "Anglo-Jewish History, 18th-20th Centuries: Sources
in The National Archives"
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/Leaflets/ri2183.htm

Unfortunately the link on Immigration in Section 5 doesn't work. I have
reported this to the Archive.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


Goldberg in Pretoria #southafrica

Jules Feldman
 

Mr Goldberg was born in Rokiskis/Rakeshik , Lithuania - the original surname
was TZETISHKA but became GOLDBERG when he came to South Africa. He had a
brother Zalman TZETISHKA who was murdered with the rest of the community in
Rakeshik in August 1941.
His niece Raiza Kark (daughter of Zalman TZETISHKA) and her husband Meir
Kark who came >from Vilna to Israel in 1970 met him in Pretoria in the early
seventies when they visited in South Africa . His first name may have been
Mendel. He had 2 sons.

I am writing on behalf of the daughter of Meir and Raize Kark who would like
to make contact with her mother's family.

Thanks,
Jules Feldman
Yizreel, Israel
@julesfe


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Goldberg in Pretoria #southafrica

Jules Feldman
 

Mr Goldberg was born in Rokiskis/Rakeshik , Lithuania - the original surname
was TZETISHKA but became GOLDBERG when he came to South Africa. He had a
brother Zalman TZETISHKA who was murdered with the rest of the community in
Rakeshik in August 1941.
His niece Raiza Kark (daughter of Zalman TZETISHKA) and her husband Meir
Kark who came >from Vilna to Israel in 1970 met him in Pretoria in the early
seventies when they visited in South Africa . His first name may have been
Mendel. He had 2 sons.

I am writing on behalf of the daughter of Meir and Raize Kark who would like
to make contact with her mother's family.

Thanks,
Jules Feldman
Yizreel, Israel
@julesfe


"joining the latke bandwagon" #poland

Safarismom@...
 

My mom was >from Pinsk Poland, now part of Belarus, my husband's family >from
Warsaw, I use sour cream, my husband likes sugar on his latkes so go figure.

What I do do is to add a heaping tablespoon of sour cream to the
potato/matza meal/eggs/onion batter before I fry them. The sour cream helps
to keep the potatoes >from turning dark and after they are fried and dried
on brown paper bags >from the market they are light and tasty and best of all,
no heartburn.

I read this tip in a Dear Heloise column in local paper umpteen years ago
and all I can say is that as fast as I make them my son in law is standing
over my shoulder as the "offical taster",I am lucky he leaves me some to
serve to the rest of the family.

Hag Samaach, Happy Chanukah to one and all and let us hope a Happy and
Healthy and Peaceful New Year
Charlotte Rutta
Valley Glen Ca


JRI Poland #Poland "joining the latke bandwagon" #poland

Safarismom@...
 

My mom was >from Pinsk Poland, now part of Belarus, my husband's family >from
Warsaw, I use sour cream, my husband likes sugar on his latkes so go figure.

What I do do is to add a heaping tablespoon of sour cream to the
potato/matza meal/eggs/onion batter before I fry them. The sour cream helps
to keep the potatoes >from turning dark and after they are fried and dried
on brown paper bags >from the market they are light and tasty and best of all,
no heartburn.

I read this tip in a Dear Heloise column in local paper umpteen years ago
and all I can say is that as fast as I make them my son in law is standing
over my shoulder as the "offical taster",I am lucky he leaves me some to
serve to the rest of the family.

Hag Samaach, Happy Chanukah to one and all and let us hope a Happy and
Healthy and Peaceful New Year
Charlotte Rutta
Valley Glen Ca