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Re: searching for FRAINBERG in Buenos Aires #latinamerica

Carlos Glikson
 

David Ekelchik wrote

My grandmother's brother, Abraham FRAINBERG, immigrated to Buenos Aries in
the 1920s >from Warsaw. He passed away there in 1957, and had 2 children.
The
son was Manuel Frainberg (a dentist?). The last addresses for them are:
Fanny
Frainberg, Munecas 1001, Buenos Aires AND Manuel Frainberg, Cucha Cucha
850,
Buenos Aires.
There are only two FRAINBERGs listed in the 2005 white pages, different
names, various addresses, none of the above.

They are brother and sister, and grandson and granddaughter of Abraham
FRAINBERG. I just spoke with Abraham's grandson and am forwarding David
privately his contact info.

Best wishes,

Carlos Glikson
Buenos Aires


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Latin America #LatinAmerica Re: searching for FRAINBERG in Buenos Aires #latinamerica

Carlos Glikson
 

David Ekelchik wrote

My grandmother's brother, Abraham FRAINBERG, immigrated to Buenos Aries in
the 1920s >from Warsaw. He passed away there in 1957, and had 2 children.
The
son was Manuel Frainberg (a dentist?). The last addresses for them are:
Fanny
Frainberg, Munecas 1001, Buenos Aires AND Manuel Frainberg, Cucha Cucha
850,
Buenos Aires.
There are only two FRAINBERGs listed in the 2005 white pages, different
names, various addresses, none of the above.

They are brother and sister, and grandson and granddaughter of Abraham
FRAINBERG. I just spoke with Abraham's grandson and am forwarding David
privately his contact info.

Best wishes,

Carlos Glikson
Buenos Aires


MODERATOR NOTE: Carlos Glikson is a perfect example of what JewishGen and
JewishGenners are all about!


Re: nyirbator? #hungary

Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@...>
 

Probably the transplanted.

I think they have a shteibel near me.

<chaim>

On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 03:09:46PM -0500, tom klein wrote:
i recently noticed a kosher grocery product at the supermarket, made
in the u.s., under the supervision of a rabbi, "head of the beth din
of nyirbator". would this be a rabbi >from the real nyirbator, or
just part of a transplanted community somewhere around new york?

....... tom klein, toronto


Re: nyirbator? #hungary

moishe@langsam.com <moishe@...>
 

It is the latter, although there are still people from
Nyirbator around.

-Moishe Miller
moishe@...
Brooklyn, NY

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:09:46 -0500
tom klein <h-sig@...> wrote:
i recently noticed a kosher grocery product at the
supermarket, made in the u.s., under the supervision of a
rabbi, "head of the beth din of nyirbator". would this
be a rabbi >from the real nyirbator, or just part of a
transplanted community somewhere around new york?


....... tom klein, toronto


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: nyirbator? #hungary

Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@...>
 

Probably the transplanted.

I think they have a shteibel near me.

<chaim>

On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 03:09:46PM -0500, tom klein wrote:
i recently noticed a kosher grocery product at the supermarket, made
in the u.s., under the supervision of a rabbi, "head of the beth din
of nyirbator". would this be a rabbi >from the real nyirbator, or
just part of a transplanted community somewhere around new york?

....... tom klein, toronto


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: nyirbator? #hungary

moishe@langsam.com <moishe@...>
 

It is the latter, although there are still people from
Nyirbator around.

-Moishe Miller
moishe@...
Brooklyn, NY

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:09:46 -0500
tom klein <h-sig@...> wrote:
i recently noticed a kosher grocery product at the
supermarket, made in the u.s., under the supervision of a
rabbi, "head of the beth din of nyirbator". would this
be a rabbi >from the real nyirbator, or just part of a
transplanted community somewhere around new york?


....... tom klein, toronto


Re: h-sig digest: December 14, 2005 #hungary

PHYLGIZ@...
 

Re: Hungarian food preferences

My grandmother came >from Miskolc. My grandfather came >from Budapest. In
investigating the names of towns on Jewish Gen I have found actual names of
related areas somewhat near Budapest for my grandfather's family. However until
I map them I am somewhat confused as to the different time periods and what
they were called. However, they all wrote Budapest on the manifests. It
seems that both my grandparents preferred sugar to syrup on French toast, which
has carried over to me. Sorry if I am straying >from the topic but thought it
might add some dietary geography to the group.

Phyllis Simon
Long Island, NY


Latkes; Researching DOBO, STAMBERGER, REICH, BRAUN and NOIBERGER or NEUBERGER #hungary

wendy cantor <cassatt222@...>
 

Hello All,

To add to the culinary-genealogical discussion: My husband's family is >from
Sziszko, Abauj Torna--There was never any mention of latkes in his family!
My grandmother >from the Ukraine always served them with sugar. They are
great that way! I never even heard of applesauce with latkes until
introduced by a friend's Hungarian parents, but I don't know where in
Hungary they were from.

I'm looking for information on my late mother-in-law's family >from Szkikszo.
Her maiden name was BORBALA REICH. Unforntunately, we don't know her
parent's first names! We do know they were killed at Auschwitz.

There was possibly a cousin, after the war, living in Sweden--JOLAN REICH
BRAUN or JOLAN BRAUN REICH. We only have her name >from a page of testimony
at Yad Vashem reporting the deaths not of my mother in laws family, but of
my late-father-in-laws parents, GEZA and JOLAN STAMBERGER DOBO, who lived in
Szikszo during the war, but who were >from Meszokomarom. They were also
killed in Auschwitz.

JOLAN STAMBERGER was born in Szakacsi in 1890. Her parents were LAJOS, b.
in Szikso in 1859 and BERTA FLAMM. MAKSIMILIAN NOIBERGER >from SZIKSZO was a
cousin of the STAMBERGERs. He was probably born in the 1890s. He survived
the war and also reported the deaths of the DOBOs to Yad Vashem. I'm
looking for his descendants. GEZA DOBO was born in Mandaras. His family's
name was at some point changed >from Goldstein to Dobo to avoid
discrimination. Let me know if any of these folks ring a bell!

Wendy Dobo


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: h-sig digest: December 14, 2005 #hungary

PHYLGIZ@...
 

Re: Hungarian food preferences

My grandmother came >from Miskolc. My grandfather came >from Budapest. In
investigating the names of towns on Jewish Gen I have found actual names of
related areas somewhat near Budapest for my grandfather's family. However until
I map them I am somewhat confused as to the different time periods and what
they were called. However, they all wrote Budapest on the manifests. It
seems that both my grandparents preferred sugar to syrup on French toast, which
has carried over to me. Sorry if I am straying >from the topic but thought it
might add some dietary geography to the group.

Phyllis Simon
Long Island, NY


Hungary SIG #Hungary Latkes; Researching DOBO, STAMBERGER, REICH, BRAUN and NOIBERGER or NEUBERGER #hungary

wendy cantor <cassatt222@...>
 

Hello All,

To add to the culinary-genealogical discussion: My husband's family is >from
Sziszko, Abauj Torna--There was never any mention of latkes in his family!
My grandmother >from the Ukraine always served them with sugar. They are
great that way! I never even heard of applesauce with latkes until
introduced by a friend's Hungarian parents, but I don't know where in
Hungary they were from.

I'm looking for information on my late mother-in-law's family >from Szkikszo.
Her maiden name was BORBALA REICH. Unforntunately, we don't know her
parent's first names! We do know they were killed at Auschwitz.

There was possibly a cousin, after the war, living in Sweden--JOLAN REICH
BRAUN or JOLAN BRAUN REICH. We only have her name >from a page of testimony
at Yad Vashem reporting the deaths not of my mother in laws family, but of
my late-father-in-laws parents, GEZA and JOLAN STAMBERGER DOBO, who lived in
Szikszo during the war, but who were >from Meszokomarom. They were also
killed in Auschwitz.

JOLAN STAMBERGER was born in Szakacsi in 1890. Her parents were LAJOS, b.
in Szikso in 1859 and BERTA FLAMM. MAKSIMILIAN NOIBERGER >from SZIKSZO was a
cousin of the STAMBERGERs. He was probably born in the 1890s. He survived
the war and also reported the deaths of the DOBOs to Yad Vashem. I'm
looking for his descendants. GEZA DOBO was born in Mandaras. His family's
name was at some point changed >from Goldstein to Dobo to avoid
discrimination. Let me know if any of these folks ring a bell!

Wendy Dobo


Re: Hungarian Fank recipe #hungary

gilboa@...
 

Foodgeeks.com: Recipe for Farsangi Fank (Hungarian Plain Doughnuts)
... Farsangi Fank (Hungarian Plain Doughnuts) Photos for this Recipe: ... I
have been looking for this recipe for yr. my grandmother's always made this
for us kids and nobody seemed ...
http://foodgeeks.com/recipes/recipe.phtml?recipe_id=4991


Sweet Baby Media's Garden and Recipe Web Source : farsangi fank - hungarian
plain doughnuts
farsangi fank - hungarian plain doughnuts. Category: Donut. Ingredients: 3
cup flour. 1/2 teaspoon salt. 1 tablespoon sugar. 5 egg yolks. 1/4 cup
milk. 1/8 pound sweet butter, melted. 2 yeast cakes (dissolved in. 1/4 cup
warm milk) Instructions: ... My Garden. Recipe Web Source. By Category ...
http://www.sweetbabymedia.com/recipes/allbynumber1/004335.shtml


Uncle Phaedrus, Finder of Lost Recipes
... to know if you could find the recipe for > Hungarian Fank (Donuts).
PleaseLet me know if you have ... HUNGARIAN DOUGHNUTS (Fank) Ingredients :
4 egg yolks 2 yeast cakes 3 c ...
http://www.hungrybrowser.com/phaedrus/m1217F04.htm


June Meyer's Authentic Hungarian Heirloom Recipe Index Page
... Authentic Hungarian Heirloom. Recipe Index Page. All of these recipes
are heirloom recipes, handed down ... Apple Strudel (Almasretes) Bismarck
Doughnuts (Fank) Coffee Cake (Aranygaluska) ...
http://homepage.interaccess.com/~june4/recipes.html


Recipe: Farsangi Fank- Hungarian Plain Doughnuts
Associate.com's 160,000 Recipe Collection. Recipe: Farsangi Fank- Hungarian
Plain Doughnuts ... Categories: Breads ... Yield: 1 Servings
http://associate.com/recipes/F/44200.shtml


piskota fank-(hungarian doughnuts with cream)
piskota fank-(hungarian doughnuts with cream) breads, main dish,
http://recipes.chef2chef.net/recipe-archive/46/246202.shtml


Re: Hungarian Latkes #hungary

Daniela <daniela@...>
 

Could this be a recipe for what you were talking about?I hope everybody has
happy Chanukah!

http://www.buissink.com/en/?selectie=recepten&id=90601&titel=fanky


daniela

----- Original Message -----
From: <SGerendasy@...>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [h-sig] Hungarian Latkes


That's the way my mother made them too. She was >from Ermihalyfalva. No
sugar and no sour cream. Certainly not if it was served with meat. But
there's
another pressing question. For Hannuka she made jelly doughnuts that
make
my mouth water thinking about them 60 years later. I think they were
called
fank. In keeping with the proper research objectives, does anyone have a
recipe for fank in the style of Ermihalyfalva?
Stan Gerendasy


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Hungarian Fank recipe #hungary

gilboa@...
 

Foodgeeks.com: Recipe for Farsangi Fank (Hungarian Plain Doughnuts)
... Farsangi Fank (Hungarian Plain Doughnuts) Photos for this Recipe: ... I
have been looking for this recipe for yr. my grandmother's always made this
for us kids and nobody seemed ...
http://foodgeeks.com/recipes/recipe.phtml?recipe_id=4991


Sweet Baby Media's Garden and Recipe Web Source : farsangi fank - hungarian
plain doughnuts
farsangi fank - hungarian plain doughnuts. Category: Donut. Ingredients: 3
cup flour. 1/2 teaspoon salt. 1 tablespoon sugar. 5 egg yolks. 1/4 cup
milk. 1/8 pound sweet butter, melted. 2 yeast cakes (dissolved in. 1/4 cup
warm milk) Instructions: ... My Garden. Recipe Web Source. By Category ...
http://www.sweetbabymedia.com/recipes/allbynumber1/004335.shtml


Uncle Phaedrus, Finder of Lost Recipes
... to know if you could find the recipe for > Hungarian Fank (Donuts).
PleaseLet me know if you have ... HUNGARIAN DOUGHNUTS (Fank) Ingredients :
4 egg yolks 2 yeast cakes 3 c ...
http://www.hungrybrowser.com/phaedrus/m1217F04.htm


June Meyer's Authentic Hungarian Heirloom Recipe Index Page
... Authentic Hungarian Heirloom. Recipe Index Page. All of these recipes
are heirloom recipes, handed down ... Apple Strudel (Almasretes) Bismarck
Doughnuts (Fank) Coffee Cake (Aranygaluska) ...
http://homepage.interaccess.com/~june4/recipes.html


Recipe: Farsangi Fank- Hungarian Plain Doughnuts
Associate.com's 160,000 Recipe Collection. Recipe: Farsangi Fank- Hungarian
Plain Doughnuts ... Categories: Breads ... Yield: 1 Servings
http://associate.com/recipes/F/44200.shtml


piskota fank-(hungarian doughnuts with cream)
piskota fank-(hungarian doughnuts with cream) breads, main dish,
http://recipes.chef2chef.net/recipe-archive/46/246202.shtml


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Hungarian Latkes #hungary

Daniela <daniela@...>
 

Could this be a recipe for what you were talking about?I hope everybody has
happy Chanukah!

http://www.buissink.com/en/?selectie=recepten&id=90601&titel=fanky


daniela

----- Original Message -----
From: <SGerendasy@...>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [h-sig] Hungarian Latkes


That's the way my mother made them too. She was >from Ermihalyfalva. No
sugar and no sour cream. Certainly not if it was served with meat. But
there's
another pressing question. For Hannuka she made jelly doughnuts that
make
my mouth water thinking about them 60 years later. I think they were
called
fank. In keeping with the proper research objectives, does anyone have a
recipe for fank in the style of Ermihalyfalva?
Stan Gerendasy


Jewish records in Catholic parishes #hungary

Rakoff125
 

re: "FHL church records >from 2 different cities in Hungary
in hopes of finding ancestors' vital records prior to the earliest existing
Jewish ones. Unfortunately, no Jewish records were contained therein.... I'd
also like to know if anyone else has had any luck finding Jewish records
within the church records"

YES. It is inconsistent but I noticed in some Parish death records that the
bottom line of every page in one section had the Jud listed. Off the top of my
head I can't remember which films they specifically were [I've seen so
many]. But if it's important write me off list for details.

Also, some of the Parish films have an item added at the end which contains
the Jewish community. When using the online FHC catalog check the film details
to see what is included in each film, the items will be listed.

Linda Rakoff
Newton, MAssachusetts, USA
searching:
ASCHNER-, Assakurte, Berko, Bratislava, Budapest , Hradiste, Katlo, Kosice,
Malacky, Nyitra, Spisska Nova Ves, Wien, Berlin, Beuthen/Bytom,
Breslau/Wroclaw,Brunovce, Danzig, Chorzow [Konigshutte], Kattowitz , LIFSITZ-Galati;
GELLMAN-Kosice, GOLDMAN(N), LANGER -Kosice, Bolyar; Miskolc, Presov;
LOW'Y-Brezova, Hradiste, Spisska Nova Ves MELTZER, PERLBINDER, LADENHEIM-- Horodenka,
Galicia, POLASCEK-Kosice, RAKOFF-Keilce,Russia, RIESENBERG- Bolygen, Horodenka,
Kasperowicz, Zaleschicki, GORDON-Moletai, WATMAN, MILLER-Lithuania, Ponemunka


Hungary SIG #Hungary Jewish records in Catholic parishes #hungary

Rakoff125
 

re: "FHL church records >from 2 different cities in Hungary
in hopes of finding ancestors' vital records prior to the earliest existing
Jewish ones. Unfortunately, no Jewish records were contained therein.... I'd
also like to know if anyone else has had any luck finding Jewish records
within the church records"

YES. It is inconsistent but I noticed in some Parish death records that the
bottom line of every page in one section had the Jud listed. Off the top of my
head I can't remember which films they specifically were [I've seen so
many]. But if it's important write me off list for details.

Also, some of the Parish films have an item added at the end which contains
the Jewish community. When using the online FHC catalog check the film details
to see what is included in each film, the items will be listed.

Linda Rakoff
Newton, MAssachusetts, USA
searching:
ASCHNER-, Assakurte, Berko, Bratislava, Budapest , Hradiste, Katlo, Kosice,
Malacky, Nyitra, Spisska Nova Ves, Wien, Berlin, Beuthen/Bytom,
Breslau/Wroclaw,Brunovce, Danzig, Chorzow [Konigshutte], Kattowitz , LIFSITZ-Galati;
GELLMAN-Kosice, GOLDMAN(N), LANGER -Kosice, Bolyar; Miskolc, Presov;
LOW'Y-Brezova, Hradiste, Spisska Nova Ves MELTZER, PERLBINDER, LADENHEIM-- Horodenka,
Galicia, POLASCEK-Kosice, RAKOFF-Keilce,Russia, RIESENBERG- Bolygen, Horodenka,
Kasperowicz, Zaleschicki, GORDON-Moletai, WATMAN, MILLER-Lithuania, Ponemunka


*re: Hungarian Latkes #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear Amos and all,

I'm not quite sure if "latkes" and the Hungarian "langos" are the same cookings. In my family, both >from Kosice and Budapest, the custom was to eat "langos" with garlic and butter. This was considered a winter delicacy, to be eaten near a burning stove. I never knew it to be served "sweat".

Regards
Tom

At 00:00 -0600 15.12.2005, H-SIG digest wrote:
Subject: Hungarian Latkes
From: Amos Israel Zezmer <amos.zezmer@...>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:55:58 -0200
X-Message-Number: 7

It's about that time of the year when we all light the menorah and feast
on latkes.

So, as latke season is approaching---and all us researchers need a break, now and then, >from our genealogical endeavors---I would like to=20
know >from our group how latkes were eaten in various parts of our vast former domain.

Amos Zezmer
Yerres, France
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@...>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Hungarian latkes #hungary

GilaMiriam Chait <gilamiriamchait@...>
 

My family enjoy what we call 'apple latkes', called
'alma pongyolaba' in Hungarian. They are made from
grated apples in the same way that the potato ones are
made >from grated potatoes, but you need more flour to
hold them together. We have them at Chanucah time to
make a change >from the potato ones, sprinkled with a
little sugar. I don't know if this is an 'authentic'
custom or not. I would be interested to hear any
thoughts on the subject.

Gila Miriam Chait,
Manchester, England


Hungary SIG #Hungary *re: Hungarian Latkes #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear Amos and all,

I'm not quite sure if "latkes" and the Hungarian "langos" are the same cookings. In my family, both >from Kosice and Budapest, the custom was to eat "langos" with garlic and butter. This was considered a winter delicacy, to be eaten near a burning stove. I never knew it to be served "sweat".

Regards
Tom

At 00:00 -0600 15.12.2005, H-SIG digest wrote:
Subject: Hungarian Latkes
From: Amos Israel Zezmer <amos.zezmer@...>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:55:58 -0200
X-Message-Number: 7

It's about that time of the year when we all light the menorah and feast
on latkes.

So, as latke season is approaching---and all us researchers need a break, now and then, >from our genealogical endeavors---I would like to=20
know >from our group how latkes were eaten in various parts of our vast former domain.

Amos Zezmer
Yerres, France
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@...>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Hungary SIG #Hungary Hungarian latkes #hungary

GilaMiriam Chait <gilamiriamchait@...>
 

My family enjoy what we call 'apple latkes', called
'alma pongyolaba' in Hungarian. They are made from
grated apples in the same way that the potato ones are
made >from grated potatoes, but you need more flour to
hold them together. We have them at Chanucah time to
make a change >from the potato ones, sprinkled with a
little sugar. I don't know if this is an 'authentic'
custom or not. I would be interested to hear any
thoughts on the subject.

Gila Miriam Chait,
Manchester, England