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* Yizkor book on auction #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

The very well known auction site is selling a Yizkor book related to the Des/Dej community. To search it enter the following keywords: DES DEJ YIZKOR JEWISH.
Regards
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Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Hungary SIG #Hungary * Yizkor book on auction #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

The very well known auction site is selling a Yizkor book related to the Des/Dej community. To search it enter the following keywords: DES DEJ YIZKOR JEWISH.
Regards
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Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Help in needed in search for Stein from Slovakia #hungary

עמירה משיח <amira_m@...>
 

Thank you all who helped me translate VM 7626 >from Slovakian.
Last week I asked for help in translation a list of places of living of my
great-grandfather siblings.

Interestingly - I got different answers for some of the places.

Cadca /// Cselej--now Celovce, Slovakia. [Cadca is in Zilina region]
[Celvoce is in Banska Bystrica region]

Sucany /// Sucaeroch? could be Sucha nad Parnau, Sucha, or Suche, all in
Slovakia; Suchahora (Szuhahora) now Sucha Hora, Slovakia; or Szucha
(formerly in Ung megye and now Szuha, Ukraine)

[sucany is in Zilina region] [Sucha nad Parnau - in Trnava region /// Sucha
Hora in Zilina region]

I thought the family lived in north Slovakia, maybe I'm wrong.
I sent application for genealogical records for Edward David Zvi- my
great-grandfather [these are his brothers]. The archive in Bytca answer was
they have found nothing. So I thought to search for the other siblings in
the family. Maybe Edward David Zvi originated >from some other place. Maybe
one of his brothers stayed to live in the area/ city/ village where they
were born.

I'm asking for your suggestion where to search now ?
I have two places I'm not sure which name is it:
Cadca/Celcovce and Sucany/Sucha nad Parnau/Sucha Hora.
Should I send application for records >from all places: Cadca/Celcovce,
Liptovska Porubka, Budapest, Lipovec, Sucany/Sucha nad Parnau/Sucha Hora.
How can I send application for genealogical records >from Budapest ? What
is the procedure ?

I'm living in Israel. Unfortunately there is no FHL center in Israel. Maybe
it is possible that someone that has an FULL center approachable is willing
to check/search for me these names ?
I'm searching for : Edward David Zvi >from Vychodna [Liptov region].
Samuel/Shmuel >from Cadca-Zilina/Celcovce-Banska
bystrica.
Leopold >from Liptovska Porubka.
Heinrich >from Budapest.
Karol >from Lipovec-Zilina and Sucany-Zilina/Sucha
nad Parnau/Sucha Hora.

I'm asking for advice and help.

Thank you,
Amira Mashiah, Israel amira_m@masaryk.org.il

Moderator: Please contact Amira off-list if you can help with FHL research.


Friedman/Grosz family of Vranov nad Toplou #hungary

Eric Friedman <radonc1970@...>
 

Hi all,

I'd like to know if there's anyone out there researching FRIEDMAN or GROSZ
family lines in the Varanno/Vranov, Galszecs/Secovce, Hanisfalu/Hanusovce
region of what's now eastern Slovakia.

I'll be shortly having a very large & detailed professional genealogical
report sent to me about these extended families. I'm trying to trace the
lines further back in time, back into the 1700s. They may have entered
Hungary >from Galicia, but I'm not sure.

I'd be happy to provide or exchange info with others research these or other
family lines.

Thanks!

Eric Friedman
Washington DC


Hungary SIG #Hungary Help in needed in search for Stein from Slovakia #hungary

עמירה משיח <amira_m@...>
 

Thank you all who helped me translate VM 7626 >from Slovakian.
Last week I asked for help in translation a list of places of living of my
great-grandfather siblings.

Interestingly - I got different answers for some of the places.

Cadca /// Cselej--now Celovce, Slovakia. [Cadca is in Zilina region]
[Celvoce is in Banska Bystrica region]

Sucany /// Sucaeroch? could be Sucha nad Parnau, Sucha, or Suche, all in
Slovakia; Suchahora (Szuhahora) now Sucha Hora, Slovakia; or Szucha
(formerly in Ung megye and now Szuha, Ukraine)

[sucany is in Zilina region] [Sucha nad Parnau - in Trnava region /// Sucha
Hora in Zilina region]

I thought the family lived in north Slovakia, maybe I'm wrong.
I sent application for genealogical records for Edward David Zvi- my
great-grandfather [these are his brothers]. The archive in Bytca answer was
they have found nothing. So I thought to search for the other siblings in
the family. Maybe Edward David Zvi originated >from some other place. Maybe
one of his brothers stayed to live in the area/ city/ village where they
were born.

I'm asking for your suggestion where to search now ?
I have two places I'm not sure which name is it:
Cadca/Celcovce and Sucany/Sucha nad Parnau/Sucha Hora.
Should I send application for records >from all places: Cadca/Celcovce,
Liptovska Porubka, Budapest, Lipovec, Sucany/Sucha nad Parnau/Sucha Hora.
How can I send application for genealogical records >from Budapest ? What
is the procedure ?

I'm living in Israel. Unfortunately there is no FHL center in Israel. Maybe
it is possible that someone that has an FULL center approachable is willing
to check/search for me these names ?
I'm searching for : Edward David Zvi >from Vychodna [Liptov region].
Samuel/Shmuel >from Cadca-Zilina/Celcovce-Banska
bystrica.
Leopold >from Liptovska Porubka.
Heinrich >from Budapest.
Karol >from Lipovec-Zilina and Sucany-Zilina/Sucha
nad Parnau/Sucha Hora.

I'm asking for advice and help.

Thank you,
Amira Mashiah, Israel amira_m@masaryk.org.il

Moderator: Please contact Amira off-list if you can help with FHL research.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Friedman/Grosz family of Vranov nad Toplou #hungary

Eric Friedman <radonc1970@...>
 

Hi all,

I'd like to know if there's anyone out there researching FRIEDMAN or GROSZ
family lines in the Varanno/Vranov, Galszecs/Secovce, Hanisfalu/Hanusovce
region of what's now eastern Slovakia.

I'll be shortly having a very large & detailed professional genealogical
report sent to me about these extended families. I'm trying to trace the
lines further back in time, back into the 1700s. They may have entered
Hungary >from Galicia, but I'm not sure.

I'd be happy to provide or exchange info with others research these or other
family lines.

Thanks!

Eric Friedman
Washington DC


Budapest street names #hungary

Laurie Budgar <lbudgar@...>
 

Hi -- I'm new to this listserv, so forgive me if this question is not
appropriate for posting here. I found my ggm's passenger list info after
many years of unsuccessful searches (thanks, Steve Morse!). It lists the
address in Budapest where her husband lived. I'm going to Budapest this
summer and would love to visit this address (if it's still standing).
It's a little difficult for me to read the old European-style
handwriting, but I've tried to match the street with street names on
maps >from that era that I've been able to find online, but without
success. My best guess is that it's 2 Erselakutca. Does anyone know if
such a street exists/existed? I wondered if someone who's more familiar
with Budapest might be able to figure it out. The information is at
*http://tinyurl.com/z92ah*. It's passenger #1 and #2, Lanka and Klara
SCHWARZ. Thanks in advance for any information you're able to offer!

Laurie BUDGAR

Researching the following families in Hungary/Romania:
SCHWARTZ/SHWARZ
GOLDBERGER
JAKOB/JACOBS


Hungary SIG #Hungary Budapest street names #hungary

Laurie Budgar <lbudgar@...>
 

Hi -- I'm new to this listserv, so forgive me if this question is not
appropriate for posting here. I found my ggm's passenger list info after
many years of unsuccessful searches (thanks, Steve Morse!). It lists the
address in Budapest where her husband lived. I'm going to Budapest this
summer and would love to visit this address (if it's still standing).
It's a little difficult for me to read the old European-style
handwriting, but I've tried to match the street with street names on
maps >from that era that I've been able to find online, but without
success. My best guess is that it's 2 Erselakutca. Does anyone know if
such a street exists/existed? I wondered if someone who's more familiar
with Budapest might be able to figure it out. The information is at
*http://tinyurl.com/z92ah*. It's passenger #1 and #2, Lanka and Klara
SCHWARZ. Thanks in advance for any information you're able to offer!

Laurie BUDGAR

Researching the following families in Hungary/Romania:
SCHWARTZ/SHWARZ
GOLDBERGER
JAKOB/JACOBS


Re: jewish records from slovenia #hungary

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Denise Pfalzer asked about genealogical records >from Slovenia. Cadastral
maps >from Slovenia are available online at
http://sigov3.sigov.si/cgi-bin/htqlcgi/arhiv_en/enos_isk_kat.htm.

Logan Kleinwaks
Coordinator, JewishGen Danzig/Gdansk SIG
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: jewish records from slovenia #hungary

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Denise Pfalzer asked about genealogical records >from Slovenia. Cadastral
maps >from Slovenia are available online at
http://sigov3.sigov.si/cgi-bin/htqlcgi/arhiv_en/enos_isk_kat.htm.

Logan Kleinwaks
Coordinator, JewishGen Danzig/Gdansk SIG
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


Re: Location of ZIEGLER family #hungary

AttilaRona@...
 

In a message dated 3/13/2006 9:51:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jjellins@ibus.org writes:
Dear All,

There was a typographical error in the information which I provided
and which was then
posted on the March 9, 2006 H-SIG digest mailing list. The year of
Jakob Ziegler's birth
was shown as 1883 when in fact it was meant to be 1833.

I have not yet established the birth place of Jakob Ziegler but one
document states that
he was >from "Sarmoser Comitat, Ungarn". What is the significance of
"Sarmoser Comitat".
Is this the name of a town or region, or does this have some other meaning.

With thanks.

Jack Jellins.
Sydney/Australia.

ZIEGLER - Hungary, Austria
GOLDHAUSER - Hungary
GOTTLIEB - Hungary
WERTHEIMER - Hungary

Hi Jack,

Is your GOTTLIEB >from Kisva'rda?

Attila Rona
New York


*re: jewish records from slovenia #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear Denise,

Certain northern parts of Slovenia belonged to the Hungarian Kingdom until the end of 1918, when the ex-Slav Habsburg dominions formed a kingdom called State or Kingdom of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs. In 1929 these three states formed the Kingdom of Yugoslavia. During WW2, parts of Slovenia were annexed to Germany, Italy and Hungary. After WW2 (1945), the territory of the ex-Yugoslavian Kingdom became the Republic of Yugoslavia.

Therefor, until 1918, records for some towns could be either in the Mormons' microfilm repository or in the Hungarian National Archive (MOL-Magyar Orsza'gos Leve'lta'r). The period you are searching is critical because of the political turbulence in Europe during that time. My guess would be that if records exist for that period, they must be in the National Archives of Serbia, in Belgrade, see <http://www.arhiv.sv.gov.yu/e1000001.htm>.

Wikipedia has a very good timeline of Slovenia's history, see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Slovenian_history>.

Good luck
Tom

At 00:00 -0600 14.03.2006, H-SIG digest wrote:
Subject: jewish records >from slovenia
From: d pfalzer <d_pfalzer@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 05:25:04 -0800 (PST)
X-Message-Number: 6

Does anyone have experience with obtaining genealogy
records >from Slovenia >from circa the 1920s and 1930s?

There are some events that occured in gf Morgenstern's
family that at present I have only a dim knowledge of.

Denise
Tampa, Florida, USA
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Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Location of ZIEGLER family #hungary

AttilaRona@...
 

In a message dated 3/13/2006 9:51:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jjellins@ibus.org writes:
Dear All,

There was a typographical error in the information which I provided
and which was then
posted on the March 9, 2006 H-SIG digest mailing list. The year of
Jakob Ziegler's birth
was shown as 1883 when in fact it was meant to be 1833.

I have not yet established the birth place of Jakob Ziegler but one
document states that
he was >from "Sarmoser Comitat, Ungarn". What is the significance of
"Sarmoser Comitat".
Is this the name of a town or region, or does this have some other meaning.

With thanks.

Jack Jellins.
Sydney/Australia.

ZIEGLER - Hungary, Austria
GOLDHAUSER - Hungary
GOTTLIEB - Hungary
WERTHEIMER - Hungary

Hi Jack,

Is your GOTTLIEB >from Kisva'rda?

Attila Rona
New York


Hungary SIG #Hungary *re: jewish records from slovenia #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear Denise,

Certain northern parts of Slovenia belonged to the Hungarian Kingdom until the end of 1918, when the ex-Slav Habsburg dominions formed a kingdom called State or Kingdom of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs. In 1929 these three states formed the Kingdom of Yugoslavia. During WW2, parts of Slovenia were annexed to Germany, Italy and Hungary. After WW2 (1945), the territory of the ex-Yugoslavian Kingdom became the Republic of Yugoslavia.

Therefor, until 1918, records for some towns could be either in the Mormons' microfilm repository or in the Hungarian National Archive (MOL-Magyar Orsza'gos Leve'lta'r). The period you are searching is critical because of the political turbulence in Europe during that time. My guess would be that if records exist for that period, they must be in the National Archives of Serbia, in Belgrade, see <http://www.arhiv.sv.gov.yu/e1000001.htm>.

Wikipedia has a very good timeline of Slovenia's history, see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Slovenian_history>.

Good luck
Tom

At 00:00 -0600 14.03.2006, H-SIG digest wrote:
Subject: jewish records >from slovenia
From: d pfalzer <d_pfalzer@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 05:25:04 -0800 (PST)
X-Message-Number: 6

Does anyone have experience with obtaining genealogy
records >from Slovenia >from circa the 1920s and 1930s?

There are some events that occured in gf Morgenstern's
family that at present I have only a dim knowledge of.

Denise
Tampa, Florida, USA
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Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


FW: Hungarian Jews in Theresienstadt in April 45 #hungary

Judy Young <jy-abcd@...>
 

Last week (March 8th) in a message Henry Wellisch wrote:

=93Starting around April 15, 1945 about 15,000 Persons arrived in
Theresienstadt >from concentration camps, which had been evacuated by
the Germans. There may have been Hungarian Jews amongst them, but it
is not clear if lists of these people exist.=94
There were definitely Hungarian Jews who arrived back to Theresienstadt =
in
April 1945 >from Buchenwald after that camp was emptied in early April
(though most of the Buchenwald inmates did not make it back to
Theresienstadt). Some were force marched, some were put on a train. The =
ones
that did make it, survived an allied bombing of their train. I know one
person who got back there in this fashion after deportation >from Ujpest =
to
Auschwitz and transfer to Buchenwald. There is also mention of this in a
book by Lothar Czosseck called =93Aussenkommando 'Wille' =96 ein =
Aussenlager des
KZ Buchenwald=94 =A0which describes experiences of inmates in Rehmsdorf, =
part of
the Buchenwald complex (the camp that Imre Kertesz was also in), and in =
an
=A0unpublished manuscript by Dr Melchior Weiss, also a Hungarian =
survivor who
arrived back to Theresienstadt with his young son, Andre (now an elderly
psychiatrist in the US).

However, I do not believe there is a listing of the people who arrived =
back
in this way unless perhaps among lists of Hungarian survivors published =
in
1946? Such a list of Hungarian survivors is available at the US =
Holocaust
Museum (as is the Czosseck book).

Regards,
Judy

Judy Young Drache
Ottawa,
Canada
E-mail: jy-abcd@cyberus.ca


Hungary SIG #Hungary FW: Hungarian Jews in Theresienstadt in April 45 #hungary

Judy Young <jy-abcd@...>
 

Last week (March 8th) in a message Henry Wellisch wrote:

=93Starting around April 15, 1945 about 15,000 Persons arrived in
Theresienstadt >from concentration camps, which had been evacuated by
the Germans. There may have been Hungarian Jews amongst them, but it
is not clear if lists of these people exist.=94
There were definitely Hungarian Jews who arrived back to Theresienstadt =
in
April 1945 >from Buchenwald after that camp was emptied in early April
(though most of the Buchenwald inmates did not make it back to
Theresienstadt). Some were force marched, some were put on a train. The =
ones
that did make it, survived an allied bombing of their train. I know one
person who got back there in this fashion after deportation >from Ujpest =
to
Auschwitz and transfer to Buchenwald. There is also mention of this in a
book by Lothar Czosseck called =93Aussenkommando 'Wille' =96 ein =
Aussenlager des
KZ Buchenwald=94 =A0which describes experiences of inmates in Rehmsdorf, =
part of
the Buchenwald complex (the camp that Imre Kertesz was also in), and in =
an
=A0unpublished manuscript by Dr Melchior Weiss, also a Hungarian =
survivor who
arrived back to Theresienstadt with his young son, Andre (now an elderly
psychiatrist in the US).

However, I do not believe there is a listing of the people who arrived =
back
in this way unless perhaps among lists of Hungarian survivors published =
in
1946? Such a list of Hungarian survivors is available at the US =
Holocaust
Museum (as is the Czosseck book).

Regards,
Judy

Judy Young Drache
Ottawa,
Canada
E-mail: jy-abcd@cyberus.ca


Family of Rabbi SOLOVEICHIK #general

Ira Lyons <iralyons@...>
 

I recently learned >from the ship's manifest that my father's name in Brest,
Russia was David SOLOWEICZIC. He emmigrated to Ellis Island at age 10 with
his mother, Chaia Soloweiczic (38), and brother Moishe Soloweiczic (7).
Chaia's maiden name was Sheland. The date of immigration is 1914. Would it
be possible to trace my father's connection to the Soloveichik family of
Rabbis? Thanks, Ira Lyons


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Family of Rabbi SOLOVEICHIK #general

Ira Lyons <iralyons@...>
 

I recently learned >from the ship's manifest that my father's name in Brest,
Russia was David SOLOWEICZIC. He emmigrated to Ellis Island at age 10 with
his mother, Chaia Soloweiczic (38), and brother Moishe Soloweiczic (7).
Chaia's maiden name was Sheland. The date of immigration is 1914. Would it
be possible to trace my father's connection to the Soloveichik family of
Rabbis? Thanks, Ira Lyons


Re: Hungarian Military Prisoner/Deaths Database #general

Vivian Kahn
 

http://www.hadifogoly.adatbanyaszat.hu/ is the URL for the website of
the Hungarian War Archives. This is a very valuable database for those
with family >from Hungary because it includes names and other information
about men who were conscripted into the Labor Battalions and died or were
reported missing. Although the information is in Hungarian, the
database is easy to use if you know a few terms:

Vezeteknev = Surname

Keresztnev = Given name (literally "Christian name")

Szuletesiev = Year of birth

Kereses = Search

Vivian Kahn, Hungarian SIG Coordinator

Subject: Hungarian Military Prisoner/Deaths Database
From: G C <gmczene@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:27:34 -0800 (PST)
X-Message-Number: 17

Hello,

http://www.hadifogoly.adatbanyaszat.hu/

is a Hungarian site with a searchable database of prisoners/military=20=
deaths.

Gizella Czene

MODERATOR NOTE: The site is in Hungarian with no English translation


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Hungarian Military Prisoner/Deaths Database #general

Vivian Kahn
 

http://www.hadifogoly.adatbanyaszat.hu/ is the URL for the website of
the Hungarian War Archives. This is a very valuable database for those
with family >from Hungary because it includes names and other information
about men who were conscripted into the Labor Battalions and died or were
reported missing. Although the information is in Hungarian, the
database is easy to use if you know a few terms:

Vezeteknev = Surname

Keresztnev = Given name (literally "Christian name")

Szuletesiev = Year of birth

Kereses = Search

Vivian Kahn, Hungarian SIG Coordinator

Subject: Hungarian Military Prisoner/Deaths Database
From: G C <gmczene@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:27:34 -0800 (PST)
X-Message-Number: 17

Hello,

http://www.hadifogoly.adatbanyaszat.hu/

is a Hungarian site with a searchable database of prisoners/military=20=
deaths.

Gizella Czene

MODERATOR NOTE: The site is in Hungarian with no English translation