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Telephone information #general

mhlcswc2@...
 

I have tried this with almost 100% success. It can be reached on line
www.free411.com or by dialing 1-800-3733.

Marcia Greenberg Hoffman
Baltimore, MD

For that matter, it is worth pointing out that a subscriber anywhere in the
US or Canada, e.g. the original questioner, can dial 1- target area code
555-1212, and speak to a human operator, thus resolving the search the old
low-tech way, which is faster and more efficient than asking on JewishGen. Your
local telephone directory has a list of area codes.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Telephone information #general

mhlcswc2@...
 

I have tried this with almost 100% success. It can be reached on line
www.free411.com or by dialing 1-800-3733.

Marcia Greenberg Hoffman
Baltimore, MD

For that matter, it is worth pointing out that a subscriber anywhere in the
US or Canada, e.g. the original questioner, can dial 1- target area code
555-1212, and speak to a human operator, thus resolving the search the old
low-tech way, which is faster and more efficient than asking on JewishGen. Your
local telephone directory has a list of area codes.


Seeking info on ISAAK family from Lich #germany

Elizabeth Levy <levyliz@...>
 

Dear Friends,

I am looking for any information about the ISAAK family >from Lich. (May
also be written ISAK or ISAAC)

I need information about any possible family members of a cousin, Emil ISAAK.
Emil was born sometime around 1880-1885 in Lich and married my cousin, Jenny
KATZ >from Flieden, Hessen. They had one daughter, Irma and one son, Alfred.
Neither of the children are still living and the didn't have children. He
perished in the Holocaust.

I know that Emil had a sister who eventually moved to Toronto and she had a
family but we don't know her married name and therefore can't find her children.

Any information about the Lich ISAAK family would be very helpful.

Thank you for your help.

(I am on my way to the Obermayer Award ceremony in Germany to "celebrate"
another group of wonderful researchers. I'll be home again in a few days.
My apologies in advance if it takes a while to answer any mail I might get.)


Elizabeth Levy Mevassaret Zion, Israel


German SIG #Germany Seeking info on ISAAK family from Lich #germany

Elizabeth Levy <levyliz@...>
 

Dear Friends,

I am looking for any information about the ISAAK family >from Lich. (May
also be written ISAK or ISAAC)

I need information about any possible family members of a cousin, Emil ISAAK.
Emil was born sometime around 1880-1885 in Lich and married my cousin, Jenny
KATZ >from Flieden, Hessen. They had one daughter, Irma and one son, Alfred.
Neither of the children are still living and the didn't have children. He
perished in the Holocaust.

I know that Emil had a sister who eventually moved to Toronto and she had a
family but we don't know her married name and therefore can't find her children.

Any information about the Lich ISAAK family would be very helpful.

Thank you for your help.

(I am on my way to the Obermayer Award ceremony in Germany to "celebrate"
another group of wonderful researchers. I'll be home again in a few days.
My apologies in advance if it takes a while to answer any mail I might get.)


Elizabeth Levy Mevassaret Zion, Israel


Conundrum regarding the SSDI #general

Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
 

In February of 2002, I requested & paid for a copy of the death certificate as
listed in the Social Security death index >from California for a person listed
as follows. I have never had a reply.

JOYCE, Arlys, born 18 Aug 1887, mother's name PRINCE, father's last
HIMMELHOCH.

Yesterday, I ran another search and found this [new] information, which was not
available in 2002:

MAYER, Rose, born 18 Aug 1887, mother's name PRINCE, father's last
HIMMELHOCH.

This is the same person for sure and relates to a cousin who was actually named
Rebekka and was born in Copenhagen. It is her same researched birth date,
father and mother. What do I do now? There is no social security number listed
for either of the two names listed above. I paid for her death certificate by
charge card, was charged accordingly and never received any response. Possibly
that is due to the fact that there was no such person as the first one named
JOYCE. To whom do I write to get that money applied to a new request or is there
some other way to find out the information on a death certificate?

Martha Lev-Zion
Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Conundrum regarding the SSDI #general

Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
 

In February of 2002, I requested & paid for a copy of the death certificate as
listed in the Social Security death index >from California for a person listed
as follows. I have never had a reply.

JOYCE, Arlys, born 18 Aug 1887, mother's name PRINCE, father's last
HIMMELHOCH.

Yesterday, I ran another search and found this [new] information, which was not
available in 2002:

MAYER, Rose, born 18 Aug 1887, mother's name PRINCE, father's last
HIMMELHOCH.

This is the same person for sure and relates to a cousin who was actually named
Rebekka and was born in Copenhagen. It is her same researched birth date,
father and mother. What do I do now? There is no social security number listed
for either of the two names listed above. I paid for her death certificate by
charge card, was charged accordingly and never received any response. Possibly
that is due to the fact that there was no such person as the first one named
JOYCE. To whom do I write to get that money applied to a new request or is there
some other way to find out the information on a death certificate?

Martha Lev-Zion
Israel


Re: Seeking MANNHEIMER / ORTENAU families #germany

Bernhard Purin <bernhard_purin@...>
 

The family papers of the ORTENAU family (Fuerth, later Munich, Bad Reichenhall)
are in the holdings of the Jewish Museum of Franconia in Fuerth. It include not
only private papers of the Ortenau's but also extensive genealogical material.

For further information on the Jewish Museum of Franconia see
http:// www.juedisches-museum.org
or contact the librarian of the museum, Mrs. Froehlich, at
froehlich@juedisches-museum.org.

Bernhard Purin, Munich Jewish Museum, Munich, Germany


ANGEL #general

Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
 

I am looking for any ANGEL family descended >from Feistele "Feifle" ANGEL who
died in Bruck [now Erlangen] in the Bamberg area of Bavaria [Mittelfranken].
The details of the family as I have been able to research them are:

First Generation

1. Feistele 'Feifel' ANGEL.
Child:
2 i. Anschel 'Amson Feifel' (1741-<1813)

Second Generation

2. Anschel 'Amson Feifel' ANGEL.
Anschel 'Amson Feifel' married Maerla Wife Of Anschel 'Amson Feifel' ANGEL.
They had the following children:
3 i. Laemmlein Baer (ca1775-)
4 ii. Schmay Loew 'Simon Loeb' (ca1783-)
5 iii. Samuel Wolf Anschel (1784-1863)
6 iv. Hindel (ca1790-)
7 v. Haida (ca1793-)

Third Generation

3. Laemmlein Baer ANGEL.

4. Schmay Loew 'Simon Loeb' ANGEL.
Schmay Loew 'Simon Loeb' married Klerla[?].
They had one child:
8 i. Mariana (1822-)

5. Samuel Wolf Anschel ANGEL.
Samuel Wolf Anschel married Rosalie ROTHSCHILD, daughter of Schmaye
Baruch ROTHSCHILD & Schwarzde.
They had the following children:
9 i. Marie (1825-)
10 ii. Schmaie (1830-)
11 iii. Babette (1831-)
12 iv. Jetta (1832-)
13 v. Karoline (1835-)
14 vi. Ascher (1836-)
15 vii. Kallman (Died as Infant) (1837-1837)
16 viii. Zeligg? (Died as Infant) (1838-1838)
17 ix. Lotte (1839-)
18 x. Fanny (1841-)
19 xi. Lazarus (1842-)
20 xii. Baruch (1845-)

6. Hindel ANGEL.
7. Haida ANGEL.
8. Mariana ANGEL.
9. Marie ANGEL.
10. Schmaie ANGEL.
11. Babette ANGEL.
12. Jetta ANGEL.
13. Karoline ANGEL.
14. Ascher ANGEL.
15. Kallman ANGEL.
16. Zeligg? ANGEL.
17. Lotte ANGEL.
18. Fanny ANGEL.
19. Lazarus ANGEL.
20. Baruch ANGEL.

I hope that is not too much information!

Martha Lev-Zion, Israel


German SIG #Germany Re: Seeking MANNHEIMER / ORTENAU families #germany

Bernhard Purin <bernhard_purin@...>
 

The family papers of the ORTENAU family (Fuerth, later Munich, Bad Reichenhall)
are in the holdings of the Jewish Museum of Franconia in Fuerth. It include not
only private papers of the Ortenau's but also extensive genealogical material.

For further information on the Jewish Museum of Franconia see
http:// www.juedisches-museum.org
or contact the librarian of the museum, Mrs. Froehlich, at
froehlich@juedisches-museum.org.

Bernhard Purin, Munich Jewish Museum, Munich, Germany


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ANGEL #general

Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
 

I am looking for any ANGEL family descended >from Feistele "Feifle" ANGEL who
died in Bruck [now Erlangen] in the Bamberg area of Bavaria [Mittelfranken].
The details of the family as I have been able to research them are:

First Generation

1. Feistele 'Feifel' ANGEL.
Child:
2 i. Anschel 'Amson Feifel' (1741-<1813)

Second Generation

2. Anschel 'Amson Feifel' ANGEL.
Anschel 'Amson Feifel' married Maerla Wife Of Anschel 'Amson Feifel' ANGEL.
They had the following children:
3 i. Laemmlein Baer (ca1775-)
4 ii. Schmay Loew 'Simon Loeb' (ca1783-)
5 iii. Samuel Wolf Anschel (1784-1863)
6 iv. Hindel (ca1790-)
7 v. Haida (ca1793-)

Third Generation

3. Laemmlein Baer ANGEL.

4. Schmay Loew 'Simon Loeb' ANGEL.
Schmay Loew 'Simon Loeb' married Klerla[?].
They had one child:
8 i. Mariana (1822-)

5. Samuel Wolf Anschel ANGEL.
Samuel Wolf Anschel married Rosalie ROTHSCHILD, daughter of Schmaye
Baruch ROTHSCHILD & Schwarzde.
They had the following children:
9 i. Marie (1825-)
10 ii. Schmaie (1830-)
11 iii. Babette (1831-)
12 iv. Jetta (1832-)
13 v. Karoline (1835-)
14 vi. Ascher (1836-)
15 vii. Kallman (Died as Infant) (1837-1837)
16 viii. Zeligg? (Died as Infant) (1838-1838)
17 ix. Lotte (1839-)
18 x. Fanny (1841-)
19 xi. Lazarus (1842-)
20 xii. Baruch (1845-)

6. Hindel ANGEL.
7. Haida ANGEL.
8. Mariana ANGEL.
9. Marie ANGEL.
10. Schmaie ANGEL.
11. Babette ANGEL.
12. Jetta ANGEL.
13. Karoline ANGEL.
14. Ascher ANGEL.
15. Kallman ANGEL.
16. Zeligg? ANGEL.
17. Lotte ANGEL.
18. Fanny ANGEL.
19. Lazarus ANGEL.
20. Baruch ANGEL.

I hope that is not too much information!

Martha Lev-Zion, Israel


Re: Pupik / Pipik #general

Susana Leistner Bloch
 

The pupik / pipik discussion reminds me of the Rebbe who was asked to
arbitrate between Jews in a dispute. Pulling on his beard and payot
(sideburns) he said to Jew #1 you are right, than turning to Jew #2
added but you are also right...

Michael Bernet was correct in stating that pupik / pipik is the name
for chicken (or goose) gizzard. This is the actual translation of the
word. My mother used to make a "rosselle ( stew ) of chicken
pipiklech (gizzards) gergalech ( necks) and hartselech (hearts) .

All the other ones that opined that pupik/pipik is a belly button /
navel were also correct. In common usage ( and outside the kitchen
<grin>) as long as I can remember a pupik/pipik was always the
belly button.

What a wonderful and rich language Yiddish is when a pipik can be
both a gizzard and a navel!!!!

Susana Leistner Bloch


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Pupik / Pipik #general

Susana Leistner Bloch
 

The pupik / pipik discussion reminds me of the Rebbe who was asked to
arbitrate between Jews in a dispute. Pulling on his beard and payot
(sideburns) he said to Jew #1 you are right, than turning to Jew #2
added but you are also right...

Michael Bernet was correct in stating that pupik / pipik is the name
for chicken (or goose) gizzard. This is the actual translation of the
word. My mother used to make a "rosselle ( stew ) of chicken
pipiklech (gizzards) gergalech ( necks) and hartselech (hearts) .

All the other ones that opined that pupik/pipik is a belly button /
navel were also correct. In common usage ( and outside the kitchen
<grin>) as long as I can remember a pupik/pipik was always the
belly button.

What a wonderful and rich language Yiddish is when a pipik can be
both a gizzard and a navel!!!!

Susana Leistner Bloch


Pupik.Pipik-Thank you #general

BABYCAT3@...
 

Thanks to all of you who did, and to those of you who might still, offer
little tidbits filled with good memories brought about by these words. Thanks
also for the various spellings, and pronunciations as well. These
"conversations" have allowed me to once again go back to my childhood and look
fondly on the memories of my beloved Grandparents! Oy, could my Grandmother cook!!

Barbara Meyers
babycat3@aol.com
Researching KAFLOWITZ and ALK >from Bialystok, Krinki and surrounding areas

MODERATOR NOTE: With this Thank You message we will end this discussion,as it
has drifted away >from genealogy. Please send any other comments privately to
Karen unless they contain new information with a direct connection to genealogy.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Pupik.Pipik-Thank you #general

BABYCAT3@...
 

Thanks to all of you who did, and to those of you who might still, offer
little tidbits filled with good memories brought about by these words. Thanks
also for the various spellings, and pronunciations as well. These
"conversations" have allowed me to once again go back to my childhood and look
fondly on the memories of my beloved Grandparents! Oy, could my Grandmother cook!!

Barbara Meyers
babycat3@aol.com
Researching KAFLOWITZ and ALK >from Bialystok, Krinki and surrounding areas

MODERATOR NOTE: With this Thank You message we will end this discussion,as it
has drifted away >from genealogy. Please send any other comments privately to
Karen unless they contain new information with a direct connection to genealogy.


Pipik v. pupik, etc #general

ac <anitac47@...>
 

Just as we have our disagreements on what "pipik" means -- or is even
spelled--we have differing information on names, locations, etc.

Usage dictates that *many* people came to understand pipik as "bellybutton"
or navel regardless that the dictionary definition says "gizzard" (but also
navel, according to Harold Pollins). Slang usage affects language (in
English slang the meaning of "fresh" doesn't mean you just took a shower or
you answered someone back--it means "first-rate").

With names, my father's cousin called himself Morris and his death
certificate calls him Hyman (his "real" name was Israel Chaimov). How many
of us have chosen a nickname that had nothing to do with your given name (I
actually met another woman on this planet who had an Anita-Nikki
connection--her name was Nikki and felt it was common and chose Anita and I
felt Anita was too uncommon and chose Nikki!) For those of you looking for
"translations" of names, take this as a caveat of the possibilities that
might exist for the relative you are tracing. With names there are
traditions not laws.

Answers to many questions are slippery things. Where you came from, what
your sensibilities were, what your scholarship is, your sources, etc.
affect the responses you give and the ones you get. Take them on as
different paths to follow--they all contain some truth. But ignoring
possibilities can often mean you are missing something important.

End of sermon :-)

Regards,
Anita Citron
Hicksville, NY
Searching: NADWORNY anywhere and everywhere(but I know about NJ, Australia,
Israel, Brazil, NY, and Odessa)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Pipik v. pupik, etc #general

ac <anitac47@...>
 

Just as we have our disagreements on what "pipik" means -- or is even
spelled--we have differing information on names, locations, etc.

Usage dictates that *many* people came to understand pipik as "bellybutton"
or navel regardless that the dictionary definition says "gizzard" (but also
navel, according to Harold Pollins). Slang usage affects language (in
English slang the meaning of "fresh" doesn't mean you just took a shower or
you answered someone back--it means "first-rate").

With names, my father's cousin called himself Morris and his death
certificate calls him Hyman (his "real" name was Israel Chaimov). How many
of us have chosen a nickname that had nothing to do with your given name (I
actually met another woman on this planet who had an Anita-Nikki
connection--her name was Nikki and felt it was common and chose Anita and I
felt Anita was too uncommon and chose Nikki!) For those of you looking for
"translations" of names, take this as a caveat of the possibilities that
might exist for the relative you are tracing. With names there are
traditions not laws.

Answers to many questions are slippery things. Where you came from, what
your sensibilities were, what your scholarship is, your sources, etc.
affect the responses you give and the ones you get. Take them on as
different paths to follow--they all contain some truth. But ignoring
possibilities can often mean you are missing something important.

End of sermon :-)

Regards,
Anita Citron
Hicksville, NY
Searching: NADWORNY anywhere and everywhere(but I know about NJ, Australia,
Israel, Brazil, NY, and Odessa)


death record lookup in Brooklyn #general

Marilyn F <mrl516@...>
 

I need some held in finding next of kin to a known relative who lived and I
think, died in Brooklyn. If anyone has access to these records and would be
able to help me, please contact me privately. I believe I can give your
approximate dates of death (1974 or 1978).
Thanks in advance. Marilyn Feingold


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen death record lookup in Brooklyn #general

Marilyn F <mrl516@...>
 

I need some held in finding next of kin to a known relative who lived and I
think, died in Brooklyn. If anyone has access to these records and would be
able to help me, please contact me privately. I believe I can give your
approximate dates of death (1974 or 1978).
Thanks in advance. Marilyn Feingold


Viewmate 7417; Yiddish (I think) #general

Elaine Bush <erbush@...>
 

I believe the posted letter/manuscript is in Yiddish, but I'm not
sure. Only one half is uploaded because the last time I tried, I
wasn't able to even upload this much! Now that I've figured it
out, I'll upload the rest. Thanks in advance to the person willing
to undertake this translation. Most appreciated.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7417

Please reply privately. Thank you,

Elaine Bush
Pleasant Hill, CA USA
erbush@phch.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate 7417; Yiddish (I think) #general

Elaine Bush <erbush@...>
 

I believe the posted letter/manuscript is in Yiddish, but I'm not
sure. Only one half is uploaded because the last time I tried, I
wasn't able to even upload this much! Now that I've figured it
out, I'll upload the rest. Thanks in advance to the person willing
to undertake this translation. Most appreciated.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7417

Please reply privately. Thank you,

Elaine Bush
Pleasant Hill, CA USA
erbush@phch.org