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ROSNER From Krakow #poland

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

My name is Jacob Rosen >from Jerusalem. I am the son of
the late Leon Leib Rosner (1903-1999) who was the
youngest child of Jakub Chiel Rosner and Ittla Borgenicht. My
father was convinced until his death that he was the
only survivor >from his family and barely spoke about
his brother and 4 sisters. He never mentioned their
given names or married names.

Last year I managed to find out that a son of my
father's sister Channa, Reuven Orschutzer (b.1925),
survived and lives in Israel. He gave me the names of
the other siblings of my father. Following that I
discovered via Yad Vashem that the son of his brother
Abraham Meyer, Rudy (b.1920), survived as well and lives
in Florida. We reunited last year in Jerusalem (they
had not seen each other since 1938).

Now I have more or less the list of my father's
siblings:

1. Abraham Meyer b. 1890 in Gdow .Disappeared in the
USSR.

2. Channa Orschutzer b. 1894/5 in Gdow. Perished in
the Holocaust.

3. Erna /Esther Susskind b.1896? in Gdow .Perished in
the Holocaust.

4. Beila /Berta (surname unknown) b. 1897-9 married
and lived in Tarnow. Perished in the Holocaust
Mechla/ Michalina b.1901 in Dobczyce. Was a
Communist,married at a certain stage(surname unknown).
Disappeared in USSR.

5. Leon Leib b. 1903 in Dobczyce (my father).

My grandfather Jakub Chiel Rosner after whom I am
named was born in 1866 in Dabrowa Tarnowska to Rubin
Rosner and Malka Perlberg. My grandfather moved around 1905
to Krakowwhere he had a big storehouse of coal. My two surviving
cousins are named after our ggrandfather Rubin. Mechla/Michalina
is probably named after our ggrandmother Malka.

All this info was constructed >from www.shoreshim.org,
JRI-PL, Yad Vashem and my cousins' memory.

I wonder whether any one of you came across these
names and may shed some light on the two aunts of me
whose married names are not known to me. Thanks.

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalm

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


JRI Poland #Poland ROSNER From Krakow #poland

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

My name is Jacob Rosen >from Jerusalem. I am the son of
the late Leon Leib Rosner (1903-1999) who was the
youngest child of Jakub Chiel Rosner and Ittla Borgenicht. My
father was convinced until his death that he was the
only survivor >from his family and barely spoke about
his brother and 4 sisters. He never mentioned their
given names or married names.

Last year I managed to find out that a son of my
father's sister Channa, Reuven Orschutzer (b.1925),
survived and lives in Israel. He gave me the names of
the other siblings of my father. Following that I
discovered via Yad Vashem that the son of his brother
Abraham Meyer, Rudy (b.1920), survived as well and lives
in Florida. We reunited last year in Jerusalem (they
had not seen each other since 1938).

Now I have more or less the list of my father's
siblings:

1. Abraham Meyer b. 1890 in Gdow .Disappeared in the
USSR.

2. Channa Orschutzer b. 1894/5 in Gdow. Perished in
the Holocaust.

3. Erna /Esther Susskind b.1896? in Gdow .Perished in
the Holocaust.

4. Beila /Berta (surname unknown) b. 1897-9 married
and lived in Tarnow. Perished in the Holocaust
Mechla/ Michalina b.1901 in Dobczyce. Was a
Communist,married at a certain stage(surname unknown).
Disappeared in USSR.

5. Leon Leib b. 1903 in Dobczyce (my father).

My grandfather Jakub Chiel Rosner after whom I am
named was born in 1866 in Dabrowa Tarnowska to Rubin
Rosner and Malka Perlberg. My grandfather moved around 1905
to Krakowwhere he had a big storehouse of coal. My two surviving
cousins are named after our ggrandfather Rubin. Mechla/Michalina
is probably named after our ggrandmother Malka.

All this info was constructed >from www.shoreshim.org,
JRI-PL, Yad Vashem and my cousins' memory.

I wonder whether any one of you came across these
names and may shed some light on the two aunts of me
whose married names are not known to me. Thanks.

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalm

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Yad Vashem-Auschwitz Museum-Additional Data #germany

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners and Siggers,
Following my recent posting I got several enquiries
frow which I concluded that I probably did not explain
myself properly.
Yad Vashem is posting in the Pages of Testimony(PoT)
not only testimonies submitted by individuals but also
data about victims >from other sources. They took the
monumental work of Klarsfeld about the deportation of
Jews >from France which includes tens of thousands of
names and posted them as seperate pages of testimony.
Did did the same with a thick volume published in
Germany about German Jews who perished in the
Holocaust.The Auschwitz Museum published in 1995 a
book which includes about 69,000 names of people who
perished there. Later they put that data on the
Museum's website. Recently I realized that the data
which was posted on that website was only partial.
Yad Vashem did an important job,they posted the data
from the book as seperate PoTs. The book gives also
the names of both parents of the victim.
In other words, if you enter the Yad Vashem website,you
do not look for the Auschwitz list!!! You just type the
surname, given name and place of the person you are
looking for. If he was included in the Auschwitz
book (and website)-his name will show up as it is a page of testimony.

Jacob Rosen Jerusalem <abuwasta@yahoo.com>


German SIG #Germany Yad Vashem-Auschwitz Museum-Additional Data #germany

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners and Siggers,
Following my recent posting I got several enquiries
frow which I concluded that I probably did not explain
myself properly.
Yad Vashem is posting in the Pages of Testimony(PoT)
not only testimonies submitted by individuals but also
data about victims >from other sources. They took the
monumental work of Klarsfeld about the deportation of
Jews >from France which includes tens of thousands of
names and posted them as seperate pages of testimony.
Did did the same with a thick volume published in
Germany about German Jews who perished in the
Holocaust.The Auschwitz Museum published in 1995 a
book which includes about 69,000 names of people who
perished there. Later they put that data on the
Museum's website. Recently I realized that the data
which was posted on that website was only partial.
Yad Vashem did an important job,they posted the data
from the book as seperate PoTs. The book gives also
the names of both parents of the victim.
In other words, if you enter the Yad Vashem website,you
do not look for the Auschwitz list!!! You just type the
surname, given name and place of the person you are
looking for. If he was included in the Auschwitz
book (and website)-his name will show up as it is a page of testimony.

Jacob Rosen Jerusalem <abuwasta@yahoo.com>


ROSNER From Krakow #galicia

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

My name is Jacob Rosen >from Jerusalem. I am the son of the late Leon Leib
Rosner (1903-1999) who was the youngest child of Jakub Chiel Rosner
and Ittla Borgenicht. My father was convinced until his death that he was the
only survivor >from his family and barely spoke about his brother and 4 sisters.
He never mentioned their given names or married names.
Last year I managed to find out that a son of my father's siters,
Channa,Reuven Orschutzer (b.1925) survived and lives in Israel.
He gave me the names of the other siblings of my father. Following that I
discovered via Yad Vashem that the son of his brother Abraham Meyer,Rudy
(b.1920) survived as well and lives in Florida.
We reunited last year in Jerusalem (they have not seen each other since 1938).

Now I have more or less the list of my father's siblings:

1. Abraham Meyer b. 1890 in Gdow .Disappeared in the
USSR.

2. Channa Orschutzer b. 1894/5 in Gdow. Perished in
the Holocaust.

3. Erna /Esther Susskind b.1896? in Gdow .Perished in
the Holocaust.

4. Beila /Berta (surname unknown) b. 1897-9 married and lived in Tarnow.
Perished in the Holocaust
Mechla/ Michalina b.1901 in Dobczyce. Was a Communist,married
at a certain stage(surname unknown). Disappeared in USSR.
5. Leon Leib b. 1903 in Dobczyce (my father).

My grandfather Jakub Chiel Rosner after whom I am
named was born in 1866 in Dabrowa Tarnowska to Rubin Rosner and Malka
Perlberg. My grandfather moved around 1905 to Krakow where he had a big
storehouse of coal.
My two surviving cousins are named after our
ggrandfather Rubin. Mechla/Michalina is probably named
after our ggrandmother Malka.
All this info was constructed >from www.shoreshim.org, JRI-PL, Yad Vashem
and my cousins' memory.

I wonder whether any one of you came across these names and may shed
some light on the two aunts of me whose married names are not known to me.Thanks.

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalm


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia ROSNER From Krakow #galicia

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

My name is Jacob Rosen >from Jerusalem. I am the son of the late Leon Leib
Rosner (1903-1999) who was the youngest child of Jakub Chiel Rosner
and Ittla Borgenicht. My father was convinced until his death that he was the
only survivor >from his family and barely spoke about his brother and 4 sisters.
He never mentioned their given names or married names.
Last year I managed to find out that a son of my father's siters,
Channa,Reuven Orschutzer (b.1925) survived and lives in Israel.
He gave me the names of the other siblings of my father. Following that I
discovered via Yad Vashem that the son of his brother Abraham Meyer,Rudy
(b.1920) survived as well and lives in Florida.
We reunited last year in Jerusalem (they have not seen each other since 1938).

Now I have more or less the list of my father's siblings:

1. Abraham Meyer b. 1890 in Gdow .Disappeared in the
USSR.

2. Channa Orschutzer b. 1894/5 in Gdow. Perished in
the Holocaust.

3. Erna /Esther Susskind b.1896? in Gdow .Perished in
the Holocaust.

4. Beila /Berta (surname unknown) b. 1897-9 married and lived in Tarnow.
Perished in the Holocaust
Mechla/ Michalina b.1901 in Dobczyce. Was a Communist,married
at a certain stage(surname unknown). Disappeared in USSR.
5. Leon Leib b. 1903 in Dobczyce (my father).

My grandfather Jakub Chiel Rosner after whom I am
named was born in 1866 in Dabrowa Tarnowska to Rubin Rosner and Malka
Perlberg. My grandfather moved around 1905 to Krakow where he had a big
storehouse of coal.
My two surviving cousins are named after our
ggrandfather Rubin. Mechla/Michalina is probably named
after our ggrandmother Malka.
All this info was constructed >from www.shoreshim.org, JRI-PL, Yad Vashem
and my cousins' memory.

I wonder whether any one of you came across these names and may shed
some light on the two aunts of me whose married names are not known to me.Thanks.

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalm


Re: mtDNA - Jewish or not? #dna

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

I recently received my "Jewish" DNA results >from the FamilyTree DNA
testing service. What was tested was my mitochondrial (MT) DNA
which is the study of female genetic lines in human populations and
which identifies one's "deep ancestral ethnic and geographic
origins" on the maternal line. I was somewhat disappointed by the
results, having hoped to learn that I was Jewish going back many
generations. Specifically, what I expected to see in the results
was that I was a certain percentage "Jewish" (or rather Middle
Eastern) and a certain percentage European (or Eastern European). (A
few months ago I saw a program in England on which an English woman
learned that she was 25% South Asian (Chinese) and the rest
European. Her father was half Chinese.)

The mtDNA results revealed that I belonged to a haplogroup (genetic
population group) known as haplogroup V which migrated 35 - 50,000
years ago to Spain and Finland.

Unfortunately - as explained by the Jewish DNA expert at Family Tree
DNA - because being Jewish does not comprise a race or ethnicity, it
is impossible to determine whether a person is Jewish, only that
there may or may not be a strong possibility of being such, based on
migration patterns and mutations that occur over time within
population groups. In my particular case, because of my dozen or so
genetic matches to other (presumably Jewish) people whose mtDNA has
been tested by the same agency, there is a strong likelihood that I
am Jewish, not that I ever doubted it!

Naidia Woolf
rnwoolf@earthlink.net
San Francisco, CA
Formerly >from Birmingham, England

Researching:
DROZDIAS - Karczew, Poland; London, Northampton, Preston,England
ISAACS, family of Solomon and Sarah - Mlawa?, Poland; Birmingham, England
KUJAWSKI (family of Szya Wolf KUJAWSKI) - Lodz, Poland; Birmingham, England
SHORN, family of Morris & Yetta - Poland (town unknown); London, England
RAUS - Karczew, Poland; London/Northampton/Preston, England
SUPERSTAYN/SAFIRSTEIN - Karczew, Poland; England


DNA Research #DNA RE: mtDNA - Jewish or not? #dna

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

I recently received my "Jewish" DNA results >from the FamilyTree DNA
testing service. What was tested was my mitochondrial (MT) DNA
which is the study of female genetic lines in human populations and
which identifies one's "deep ancestral ethnic and geographic
origins" on the maternal line. I was somewhat disappointed by the
results, having hoped to learn that I was Jewish going back many
generations. Specifically, what I expected to see in the results
was that I was a certain percentage "Jewish" (or rather Middle
Eastern) and a certain percentage European (or Eastern European). (A
few months ago I saw a program in England on which an English woman
learned that she was 25% South Asian (Chinese) and the rest
European. Her father was half Chinese.)

The mtDNA results revealed that I belonged to a haplogroup (genetic
population group) known as haplogroup V which migrated 35 - 50,000
years ago to Spain and Finland.

Unfortunately - as explained by the Jewish DNA expert at Family Tree
DNA - because being Jewish does not comprise a race or ethnicity, it
is impossible to determine whether a person is Jewish, only that
there may or may not be a strong possibility of being such, based on
migration patterns and mutations that occur over time within
population groups. In my particular case, because of my dozen or so
genetic matches to other (presumably Jewish) people whose mtDNA has
been tested by the same agency, there is a strong likelihood that I
am Jewish, not that I ever doubted it!

Naidia Woolf
rnwoolf@earthlink.net
San Francisco, CA
Formerly >from Birmingham, England

Researching:
DROZDIAS - Karczew, Poland; London, Northampton, Preston,England
ISAACS, family of Solomon and Sarah - Mlawa?, Poland; Birmingham, England
KUJAWSKI (family of Szya Wolf KUJAWSKI) - Lodz, Poland; Birmingham, England
SHORN, family of Morris & Yetta - Poland (town unknown); London, England
RAUS - Karczew, Poland; London/Northampton/Preston, England
SUPERSTAYN/SAFIRSTEIN - Karczew, Poland; England


mtDNA & my grandfather's mother #dna

rbeals@...
 

Dear Genners:

I would like to give a sincere "thank you" to all the e-mails and
comments I received >from my recent inquiry. It is a very
interesting subject. It will be interesting to see further advances
in the years to come in genetic testing.

Thanks again to all!

Kim Beals
Milford, Illinois
USA


DNA Research #DNA mtDNA & my grandfather's mother #dna

rbeals@...
 

Dear Genners:

I would like to give a sincere "thank you" to all the e-mails and
comments I received >from my recent inquiry. It is a very
interesting subject. It will be interesting to see further advances
in the years to come in genetic testing.

Thanks again to all!

Kim Beals
Milford, Illinois
USA


Yad vaShem-Auschwitz Victims-Additional Data #galicia

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners and Siggers,
As you probably know the Auschwitz Museum website has
an alphabetical list of 69,000 victims who were
executed there,including non Jews.I just discovered
that Yad vaShem has posted the same list on the PoT
section but with additional data:
the names of the victim's parents. Thus I now know
that the parents of my relative Hermann KOENIGSBUCH
from Michalovce were Joseph KOENIGSBUCH and Helene
BLAS. Only by having his father's given name I know
how he is connected to me(Joseph and my grandfather
Ascher were brothers).
I assume that BLAS family is >from Slovakia. If it
rings a bell I would like to hear privately.
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem

__________________________________________________


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Yad vaShem-Auschwitz Victims-Additional Data #galicia

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners and Siggers,
As you probably know the Auschwitz Museum website has
an alphabetical list of 69,000 victims who were
executed there,including non Jews.I just discovered
that Yad vaShem has posted the same list on the PoT
section but with additional data:
the names of the victim's parents. Thus I now know
that the parents of my relative Hermann KOENIGSBUCH
from Michalovce were Joseph KOENIGSBUCH and Helene
BLAS. Only by having his father's given name I know
how he is connected to me(Joseph and my grandfather
Ascher were brothers).
I assume that BLAS family is >from Slovakia. If it
rings a bell I would like to hear privately.
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem

__________________________________________________


Braunstein and Heller family #galicia

Brigitte Thireau <brandes@...>
 

Dear friends?
I 've just discovered that I might be related to Braunstein Family
( through the marriage of Berl with Ruchel Bazar ) and to Heller
family ( through the marriage of Jacob with Chancie Bazar ). they all
lived in Postolowka not far >from Chorostkow in the end of 19th
century. I think that Jacob emigrated to USA because I had a picture
without the family name >from NY. Do someone know any of their
children or grandchildren?
Thank you for your help.
Brigitte Brandes


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Braunstein and Heller family #galicia

Brigitte Thireau <brandes@...>
 

Dear friends?
I 've just discovered that I might be related to Braunstein Family
( through the marriage of Berl with Ruchel Bazar ) and to Heller
family ( through the marriage of Jacob with Chancie Bazar ). they all
lived in Postolowka not far >from Chorostkow in the end of 19th
century. I think that Jacob emigrated to USA because I had a picture
without the family name >from NY. Do someone know any of their
children or grandchildren?
Thank you for your help.
Brigitte Brandes


Re: jcr-uk digest: January 18, 2006 #unitedkingdom

Lorna Kay <lorna.kay@...>
 

The Greater Manchester Police Museum has a limited number of Alien
Registration Books which they state cover the Salford area only. However,
having seen some of the books and found family information this is not
strictly true as there are some people included for the Manchester area
where they have had to register when they moved >from streets within the then
Manchester districts to Salford or vice versa. Members of JGSGB can
access this information via the Society's website in Members' Corner.

I am replying to Naidia Woolf direct.

Lorna Kay
Chairman - Manchester Regional Group
&
Regional Group Co-ordinator
Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain


Researching
WEISBERG (Kamenets Podolsk, Ukraine)
SEABERG (Tukums, Latvia)
KUTCHINSKY (Piotrkow, Russia-Poland)
FROMBERG (Russia)
BLUESTONE (Roumania)
VALENSTEIN (Russia)


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: jcr-uk digest: January 18, 2006 #unitedkingdom

Lorna Kay <lorna.kay@...>
 

The Greater Manchester Police Museum has a limited number of Alien
Registration Books which they state cover the Salford area only. However,
having seen some of the books and found family information this is not
strictly true as there are some people included for the Manchester area
where they have had to register when they moved >from streets within the then
Manchester districts to Salford or vice versa. Members of JGSGB can
access this information via the Society's website in Members' Corner.

I am replying to Naidia Woolf direct.

Lorna Kay
Chairman - Manchester Regional Group
&
Regional Group Co-ordinator
Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain


Researching
WEISBERG (Kamenets Podolsk, Ukraine)
SEABERG (Tukums, Latvia)
KUTCHINSKY (Piotrkow, Russia-Poland)
FROMBERG (Russia)
BLUESTONE (Roumania)
VALENSTEIN (Russia)


Re: warszawa digest: January 11, 2006 #warsaw #poland

Kris Murawski <kris.murawski@...>
 

re: café Sztuka and Braun family members

--
Yes Kris,

Much of this is very helpful. I already know about the Music of Rembrance
group. Pola's poems were not "unpublished," but rather appeared in a book
c. 1946 or 7 in Poland. Also, a researcher of Szlengel tells me that she
rescued two of Pola's poems.

These surviving six poems were not "published" in English, however.

However, the website features a number of articles about the premiere,
"Letter to Warsaw," without updating either journalists or readers that much
more information was located about Pola, and that the closest surviving
relative (my father) was discovered last year. It was through his help that
a great of deal of new material was recovered very recently.

Unfortunately, we've learned the very painful way that not everyone who
works in the field of Holocaust studies chooses to pay homage to victims and
survivors alike. Sometimes, things are just done for personal
aggrandizement, such as what this group did, or didn't do.

When you get the recording, you'll find in the notes that the music was not
dedicated to Pola or any or her colleagues or victims of the Holocaust, and
some of the sources of information upon further digging were not credited.
We'll leave it at that, although I understand Maria von Trapp (of "Sound of
Music" fame) was not even sent an invite to the premiere of the film, and
did not receive a sou of the royalties (give or take the latter).....

Of course as an academic, independent researcher and a descendant of Pola, I
plan to keep records of collected resources, credit citations, and
acknowledge people who have been helpful during the course of this work.

I looked through the Polish Business Directory and couldn't find anything,
but I was looking in Grodno, rather than Bialystok. I will look, anew.
Thanks!

I was wondering about the things you found in the Library of Congress
website, and how you were able to find the index. I did find Herman and
Hermanowa Braun on image 87, but I couldn't determine where to view the
businesses addresses you were able to locate.

I'd very much appreciate it, if you could tell me how to run searches
through these digital materials, as I was not able to bring up the .pdf
version.

My grandfather was a tailor and/or owned a fabric shop in Warsaw c. 1937-9.
His last name was Braun, first Noach or Noah.

Thanks so much for the Leszno address of the café. No one ever told me it
before, and how delightful to finally see a photo of the outside (at
least!).

Best wishes and many thanks



I am just packing for a trip to the West Coast, and therefore responding
only quickly and briefly.
The Braun business addresses are on the same page as the residence addresses
of Herman Braun and Mrs. Braun, some 12 lines up. Those business addresses
are listed as "Braun B-cia" (Brothers Braun). There was one telephone
directory for the city of Warsaw, no separate yellow pages and white pages.
Letter "m." after the name indicates "mieszkanie", i.e., residence. There
is no index as all entries are listed in alphabetical order thus making an
index of a kind.
There is a separate section for government addresses and a section with
advertisements which begins with image 541.
No Braun Noach or Noah is listed in this telephone directory. However,
telephones were not as common as they are now and it is quite likely that a
person would not have a telephone. There is one Braun tailor listed (image
87), but his initial was M. He conducted business at 1 Prosta Street. The
are only three tailors listed in the advertisement section (image 559,
KRAWCY), and there is no Braun among them.
Best regards,
Kris Murawski
Annandale, VA


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Re: Re:warszawa digest: January 11, 2006 #warsaw #poland

Kris Murawski <kris.murawski@...>
 

re: café Sztuka and Braun family members

--
Yes Kris,

Much of this is very helpful. I already know about the Music of Rembrance
group. Pola's poems were not "unpublished," but rather appeared in a book
c. 1946 or 7 in Poland. Also, a researcher of Szlengel tells me that she
rescued two of Pola's poems.

These surviving six poems were not "published" in English, however.

However, the website features a number of articles about the premiere,
"Letter to Warsaw," without updating either journalists or readers that much
more information was located about Pola, and that the closest surviving
relative (my father) was discovered last year. It was through his help that
a great of deal of new material was recovered very recently.

Unfortunately, we've learned the very painful way that not everyone who
works in the field of Holocaust studies chooses to pay homage to victims and
survivors alike. Sometimes, things are just done for personal
aggrandizement, such as what this group did, or didn't do.

When you get the recording, you'll find in the notes that the music was not
dedicated to Pola or any or her colleagues or victims of the Holocaust, and
some of the sources of information upon further digging were not credited.
We'll leave it at that, although I understand Maria von Trapp (of "Sound of
Music" fame) was not even sent an invite to the premiere of the film, and
did not receive a sou of the royalties (give or take the latter).....

Of course as an academic, independent researcher and a descendant of Pola, I
plan to keep records of collected resources, credit citations, and
acknowledge people who have been helpful during the course of this work.

I looked through the Polish Business Directory and couldn't find anything,
but I was looking in Grodno, rather than Bialystok. I will look, anew.
Thanks!

I was wondering about the things you found in the Library of Congress
website, and how you were able to find the index. I did find Herman and
Hermanowa Braun on image 87, but I couldn't determine where to view the
businesses addresses you were able to locate.

I'd very much appreciate it, if you could tell me how to run searches
through these digital materials, as I was not able to bring up the .pdf
version.

My grandfather was a tailor and/or owned a fabric shop in Warsaw c. 1937-9.
His last name was Braun, first Noach or Noah.

Thanks so much for the Leszno address of the café. No one ever told me it
before, and how delightful to finally see a photo of the outside (at
least!).

Best wishes and many thanks



I am just packing for a trip to the West Coast, and therefore responding
only quickly and briefly.
The Braun business addresses are on the same page as the residence addresses
of Herman Braun and Mrs. Braun, some 12 lines up. Those business addresses
are listed as "Braun B-cia" (Brothers Braun). There was one telephone
directory for the city of Warsaw, no separate yellow pages and white pages.
Letter "m." after the name indicates "mieszkanie", i.e., residence. There
is no index as all entries are listed in alphabetical order thus making an
index of a kind.
There is a separate section for government addresses and a section with
advertisements which begins with image 541.
No Braun Noach or Noah is listed in this telephone directory. However,
telephones were not as common as they are now and it is quite likely that a
person would not have a telephone. There is one Braun tailor listed (image
87), but his initial was M. He conducted business at 1 Prosta Street. The
are only three tailors listed in the advertisement section (image 559,
KRAWCY), and there is no Braun among them.
Best regards,
Kris Murawski
Annandale, VA


Tura Zuhow Lodge #general

Marilyn Silva <benma@...>
 

Genners:
My grandfather Max Jabin was buried at Mt. Hebron cemetary in Flushing NY.
I have been informed that the society to which he belonged was the Tura
Zuhow Lodge.
It is my understanding that this lodge does not exist anymore, but maybe
someone out there has some information about it.
I am hoping to find out the city where my grandfather came >from and when he
came to America.
Thanks
Marilyn Silva
Searching ZALOSZYNSKI/ZALASZYNSKA or variations thereof.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tura Zuhow Lodge #general

Marilyn Silva <benma@...>
 

Genners:
My grandfather Max Jabin was buried at Mt. Hebron cemetary in Flushing NY.
I have been informed that the society to which he belonged was the Tura
Zuhow Lodge.
It is my understanding that this lodge does not exist anymore, but maybe
someone out there has some information about it.
I am hoping to find out the city where my grandfather came >from and when he
came to America.
Thanks
Marilyn Silva
Searching ZALOSZYNSKI/ZALASZYNSKA or variations thereof.