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Joseph FUCHS #general

Allyn Winchester <awin@...>
 

Am desperately trying to find my great grandparents graves in Poland -
Breslau . His name was Joseph FUCHS and he was married to Rosalie STERN. We
have a faded letter >from the Breslau Synagoguw on the occasion of their 50th
wedding anniversay. The name changes are the hardest for me to decipher and
I really don"t know how to progress. I am determined to find their graves
and what has happened to my mothers family. Please, please help. Thank yo
Dr Carolyn Winchester, Durban, South Africa


yerachmiel #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

My father's name was Yerachmiel - born in the Ukraine in 1906. When he went
to France to study he got the name Emile. In the States 40 years later he
was Emil. My mother called him Rachmiel.
So there are instances where Rachmiel was "relatively" short for Yerachmiel.

Rose Feldman
Tel-Aviv


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Joseph FUCHS #general

Allyn Winchester <awin@...>
 

Am desperately trying to find my great grandparents graves in Poland -
Breslau . His name was Joseph FUCHS and he was married to Rosalie STERN. We
have a faded letter >from the Breslau Synagoguw on the occasion of their 50th
wedding anniversay. The name changes are the hardest for me to decipher and
I really don"t know how to progress. I am determined to find their graves
and what has happened to my mothers family. Please, please help. Thank yo
Dr Carolyn Winchester, Durban, South Africa


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen yerachmiel #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

My father's name was Yerachmiel - born in the Ukraine in 1906. When he went
to France to study he got the name Emile. In the States 40 years later he
was Emil. My mother called him Rachmiel.
So there are instances where Rachmiel was "relatively" short for Yerachmiel.

Rose Feldman
Tel-Aviv


Re: Austria Vienna, Poland and Hungary #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Henoch Duboff writes: " Here is an example of not
posting complete information when making a request.
Yes, I'm talking about my own posting. I neglected to
mention that ASKIN is the married name! Her maiden
name was FAERSTEIN and was originally pronounced with
the ending of -SHTEIN.

Her sister is the one with the "Austria-Poland" on her
marriage license; the same sister has "Skalo, Austria"
written on her (the sister's) husband's naturalization
papers. On a brother's census record, "Austria
Yiddish" is listed as the *place* of birth, and
Yiddish is listed as the language spoken before coming
to the US.

One reply informed me that in 1930, the census takers
were told to clarify the exact location rather than
just "Austria." I'm wondering if perhaps the census
taker simply wrote in "Vienna" after the fact?"

Because of Henoch's unclear posting, I sent in a
detailed reply yesterday about ASKIN and zeroed in on
ASCHKENASY-related names in Vienna. I do not regret
it, and I have sent in another posting to say why.

But I am after Henoch's explanation today, I am more
confused than ever *whose name*, actually relates to
being born in *Vienna, Austria*? If it is the
FAERSTEIN girl, there are plenty of Galician
FEUERSTEIN buried in Vienna. The FAERSTEIN who stayed
in Vienna would definitely have changed their names to
FEUERSTEIN, but their Galician origins are revealed by
their first names.

So there is no reason why this baby girl was not born
in Vienna. It is perfectly possible to prove, once and
for all, if this mystery person was born in ***Vienna,
Austria***, or if it was a figment of the census
taker's imagination. Why speculate? As I said
originally, the Vienna Jewish birth records are very
good. One has to do the research.

Carol Rider's posting was very apt yesterday. The
Moderator thoughtfully gave us this link, which I read
for the first time and I was most amused: Dan Leeson's
tale is located at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/dlfable.txt

Celia Male [U.K.]


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Austria Vienna, Poland and Hungary #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Henoch Duboff writes: " Here is an example of not
posting complete information when making a request.
Yes, I'm talking about my own posting. I neglected to
mention that ASKIN is the married name! Her maiden
name was FAERSTEIN and was originally pronounced with
the ending of -SHTEIN.

Her sister is the one with the "Austria-Poland" on her
marriage license; the same sister has "Skalo, Austria"
written on her (the sister's) husband's naturalization
papers. On a brother's census record, "Austria
Yiddish" is listed as the *place* of birth, and
Yiddish is listed as the language spoken before coming
to the US.

One reply informed me that in 1930, the census takers
were told to clarify the exact location rather than
just "Austria." I'm wondering if perhaps the census
taker simply wrote in "Vienna" after the fact?"

Because of Henoch's unclear posting, I sent in a
detailed reply yesterday about ASKIN and zeroed in on
ASCHKENASY-related names in Vienna. I do not regret
it, and I have sent in another posting to say why.

But I am after Henoch's explanation today, I am more
confused than ever *whose name*, actually relates to
being born in *Vienna, Austria*? If it is the
FAERSTEIN girl, there are plenty of Galician
FEUERSTEIN buried in Vienna. The FAERSTEIN who stayed
in Vienna would definitely have changed their names to
FEUERSTEIN, but their Galician origins are revealed by
their first names.

So there is no reason why this baby girl was not born
in Vienna. It is perfectly possible to prove, once and
for all, if this mystery person was born in ***Vienna,
Austria***, or if it was a figment of the census
taker's imagination. Why speculate? As I said
originally, the Vienna Jewish birth records are very
good. One has to do the research.

Carol Rider's posting was very apt yesterday. The
Moderator thoughtfully gave us this link, which I read
for the first time and I was most amused: Dan Leeson's
tale is located at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/dlfable.txt

Celia Male [U.K.]


Re: Requesting help in your research #general

Roger Lustig <julierog@...>
 

To Carol's comments, let me add a hearty "Yes...but..."

First of all, *good* local libraries aren't to be found everywhere.
Here in the US many cities (New York, Carol's Baltimore, and my own town
among them) have great public library traditions, but that isn't always
the case, and in other countries the situation can be downright grim.
On top of that, some of us do live much further >from a decent library
than others do, and still others aren't able to go out as readily.

Next, there's the matter of centrality to one's research. Yes, pick up
bits of a language or two, get to know the geography of key regions--but
the Jews of Europe were a relatively peripatetic lot, and there's only
so many times one wants to do all the groundwork in order to figure out
a potential reference to a single ancestor or distant cousin. Getting
to know enough German, Russian, Polish, Ukrainian, and Latin might be a
lot for a Galizianer researcher; when it then turns out that someone
married into a family >from Saloniki or Mantua, I think it's perfectly
fair to ask the group (perhaps with a "reply privately") for a hand.

I think Dan Leeson would agree with me, not least since he and I have
answered one another's basic questions on other subjects in at least one
other forum on occasion. Moreover, some things *don't* come naturally
from basic research with maps and names; for instance, "Why was there
evidently a substantial connection between the communities of Town X and
Town Y?" may be old hat to those who know the stories and historical
contingencies, but could elude any new researcher for a long time.

The Internet is by far the most powerful tool for research ever
developed. (15 years ago it was already touted as "the world's largest
scientific instrument".) Much of its power comes >from its ability to
reduce duplication. But none of us has published everthing we know, let
alone everything we suspect, so that basic query may be what's needed to
coax the "missing link" information out of whoever might have it. (The
owner of the info may not even know of its significance until the
question is asked.)

When it comes to courtesy and proper use of the group, however, there is
one thing that members should do, though: search the message archives.
If the answer's there, then posing the same question to the thousands of
us is little more than noise. If someone has answered something
similar, email them directly. And if someone writes to you with a
question, at least write back to say you don't know. (I'm not always
perfect with this last point either, but I try...)

After four years of spending far too much time on genealogy and history,
I'm beginning to get a grasp on an area of about 6 counties, with *very*
basic knowledge of things outside of there. Do your homework; use what
references you can; see if your question has been answered before; but
keep those questions coming! They, not the answers, are often what
stimulates researchers in entirely different areas!

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ
researching Upper Silesia--parts of it more than others...

CRomRider@aol.com wrote:

I am not picking on anyone in particular, but I have noticed quite a number
of quieries on Jewishgen asking for help when I think a little old fashioned
legwork is in order. I say this as a genealogist who has done things both
the old fashioned way and now the easy way--ask on the internet and have the
answer almost handed to you.

But you just don't learn the same thing if you don't go to your local
library (and I think most of us are able to do just that, unless you are the
Jewishgenner reading this on a submarine or living in a remote village in Mali).
What you learn by picking up an atlas and looking for the answer yourself is
immeasurable. You learn what cities or villages were close to the town of
origin for your family--and you will need to eventually search those areas
eventually. If you use a college library chances are you will find an atlas in
a language other than your own--French, German, Russian, etc. You will learn
to slowly begin to recognize names in other alphabets and you will learn how
borders changed. Pick up a book on doing genealogy research in a particular
area, and you will not only find what you are looking for but also discover
archives and resources you never thought of.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Requesting help in your research #general

Roger Lustig <julierog@...>
 

To Carol's comments, let me add a hearty "Yes...but..."

First of all, *good* local libraries aren't to be found everywhere.
Here in the US many cities (New York, Carol's Baltimore, and my own town
among them) have great public library traditions, but that isn't always
the case, and in other countries the situation can be downright grim.
On top of that, some of us do live much further >from a decent library
than others do, and still others aren't able to go out as readily.

Next, there's the matter of centrality to one's research. Yes, pick up
bits of a language or two, get to know the geography of key regions--but
the Jews of Europe were a relatively peripatetic lot, and there's only
so many times one wants to do all the groundwork in order to figure out
a potential reference to a single ancestor or distant cousin. Getting
to know enough German, Russian, Polish, Ukrainian, and Latin might be a
lot for a Galizianer researcher; when it then turns out that someone
married into a family >from Saloniki or Mantua, I think it's perfectly
fair to ask the group (perhaps with a "reply privately") for a hand.

I think Dan Leeson would agree with me, not least since he and I have
answered one another's basic questions on other subjects in at least one
other forum on occasion. Moreover, some things *don't* come naturally
from basic research with maps and names; for instance, "Why was there
evidently a substantial connection between the communities of Town X and
Town Y?" may be old hat to those who know the stories and historical
contingencies, but could elude any new researcher for a long time.

The Internet is by far the most powerful tool for research ever
developed. (15 years ago it was already touted as "the world's largest
scientific instrument".) Much of its power comes >from its ability to
reduce duplication. But none of us has published everthing we know, let
alone everything we suspect, so that basic query may be what's needed to
coax the "missing link" information out of whoever might have it. (The
owner of the info may not even know of its significance until the
question is asked.)

When it comes to courtesy and proper use of the group, however, there is
one thing that members should do, though: search the message archives.
If the answer's there, then posing the same question to the thousands of
us is little more than noise. If someone has answered something
similar, email them directly. And if someone writes to you with a
question, at least write back to say you don't know. (I'm not always
perfect with this last point either, but I try...)

After four years of spending far too much time on genealogy and history,
I'm beginning to get a grasp on an area of about 6 counties, with *very*
basic knowledge of things outside of there. Do your homework; use what
references you can; see if your question has been answered before; but
keep those questions coming! They, not the answers, are often what
stimulates researchers in entirely different areas!

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ
researching Upper Silesia--parts of it more than others...

CRomRider@aol.com wrote:

I am not picking on anyone in particular, but I have noticed quite a number
of quieries on Jewishgen asking for help when I think a little old fashioned
legwork is in order. I say this as a genealogist who has done things both
the old fashioned way and now the easy way--ask on the internet and have the
answer almost handed to you.

But you just don't learn the same thing if you don't go to your local
library (and I think most of us are able to do just that, unless you are the
Jewishgenner reading this on a submarine or living in a remote village in Mali).
What you learn by picking up an atlas and looking for the answer yourself is
immeasurable. You learn what cities or villages were close to the town of
origin for your family--and you will need to eventually search those areas
eventually. If you use a college library chances are you will find an atlas in
a language other than your own--French, German, Russian, etc. You will learn
to slowly begin to recognize names in other alphabets and you will learn how
borders changed. Pick up a book on doing genealogy research in a particular
area, and you will not only find what you are looking for but also discover
archives and resources you never thought of.


Tomachevski #yiddish

Clankarol@...
 

Hi
I am new to this group. My grandmother worked for the yiddish actor
Tomachevski (apologies for spelling the name wrong!) in New York. I wondered
if there are any relatives of his around who may have some knowledge of this.

Thank you,
K. Schlosser
Edinburgh, UK


Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre Tomachevski #yiddish

Clankarol@...
 

Hi
I am new to this group. My grandmother worked for the yiddish actor
Tomachevski (apologies for spelling the name wrong!) in New York. I wondered
if there are any relatives of his around who may have some knowledge of this.

Thank you,
K. Schlosser
Edinburgh, UK


Danzig Deaths before World War 1 #poland #danzig #gdansk #germany

P & R Nash
 

Sy Pearlman wrote:
It was said that my grandfather went to Danzig to study and died there.
Are there any records of burials for Danzig before or during World War I?
I have viewed the following LDS Film of Danzig Deaths for 1889-1940 (correct
year range!):

Film # 1,184,408 (described as Jewish Registers for area East of
Oder-Niesse-Line)
Includes over 2600 deaths, full names, also Hebrew names (in Hebrew) up to
at least (year) 1900, thereafter full names with Hebrew names in Roman
script, (but not always), age and date of death given. All quite legible
except for some Hebrew script.

Peter Nash, Sydney
genealogy@rpnash.com

Researching KLEEMANN


Danzig/Gedansk SIG #Danzig #Gdansk #Germany #Poland Danzig Deaths before World War 1 #danzig #gdansk #germany #poland

P & R Nash
 

Sy Pearlman wrote:
It was said that my grandfather went to Danzig to study and died there.
Are there any records of burials for Danzig before or during World War I?
I have viewed the following LDS Film of Danzig Deaths for 1889-1940 (correct
year range!):

Film # 1,184,408 (described as Jewish Registers for area East of
Oder-Niesse-Line)
Includes over 2600 deaths, full names, also Hebrew names (in Hebrew) up to
at least (year) 1900, thereafter full names with Hebrew names in Roman
script, (but not always), age and date of death given. All quite legible
except for some Hebrew script.

Peter Nash, Sydney
genealogy@rpnash.com

Researching KLEEMANN


surnames derived from the city of Danzig #danzig #gdansk #germany #poland

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Dear SIG members,

In response to recent posts to this mailing list about surnames
derived >from the city of Danzig, such as DANZIGER, I asked expert
Jewish onomastician Alexander Beider if he would share his knowledge
on this subject. The result is a list of such surnames, extracted
from Beider's books, which now appears in the Articles section of
our website. This is the first article to appear on our site, and
I hope it will encourage further contributions.

Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
Coordinator, JewishGen Danzig/Gdansk SIG
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


Danzig/Gedansk SIG #Danzig #Gdansk #Germany #Poland surnames derived from the city of Danzig #poland #danzig #gdansk #germany

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Dear SIG members,

In response to recent posts to this mailing list about surnames
derived >from the city of Danzig, such as DANZIGER, I asked expert
Jewish onomastician Alexander Beider if he would share his knowledge
on this subject. The result is a list of such surnames, extracted
from Beider's books, which now appears in the Articles section of
our website. This is the first article to appear on our site, and
I hope it will encourage further contributions.

Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
Coordinator, JewishGen Danzig/Gdansk SIG
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


Help in Locating-Lev SHENKMAN #general

avatom@...
 

Does anyone have the current address, phone or email of Lev Shenkman?
In 1999 he was listed at Ulitsa Barmaleeva, St. Petersburg, Russia.
]Please respond privately.

Ava Cohn
Long Grove, IL
avatom@comcast.net

Searching: SHENKMAN/SHANKMAN/SCHEINKMAN (Volyntsy, Vitebsk gubernia; Riga; Kiev;
Mazyr); HANDELMAN (Spivak, Shpikow, Ukraine); STERN/STEIN? (Ukraine); COHN
(Botosani, Bucharesti, Montreal, Phildelphia); HAMMER (Chenivisti, Montreal);
ABRAMS?ABROMOWITZ (Odessa); HENKLMAN/HENSCHLMAN? (Vitebsk gubernia)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help in Locating-Lev SHENKMAN #general

avatom@...
 

Does anyone have the current address, phone or email of Lev Shenkman?
In 1999 he was listed at Ulitsa Barmaleeva, St. Petersburg, Russia.
]Please respond privately.

Ava Cohn
Long Grove, IL
avatom@comcast.net

Searching: SHENKMAN/SHANKMAN/SCHEINKMAN (Volyntsy, Vitebsk gubernia; Riga; Kiev;
Mazyr); HANDELMAN (Spivak, Shpikow, Ukraine); STERN/STEIN? (Ukraine); COHN
(Botosani, Bucharesti, Montreal, Phildelphia); HAMMER (Chenivisti, Montreal);
ABRAMS?ABROMOWITZ (Odessa); HENKLMAN/HENSCHLMAN? (Vitebsk gubernia)


Re: 1632 Washington Ave, Bronx, NY #general

Hank Mishkoff
 

In answer to Bea Swart's question, I used Google Earth to zoom in on that
address and found that space currently occupied by a large warehouse.

There's also a fascinating new service called "Windows Live Local"
at http://local.live.com/. It's still in beta-test, which means that it gets a
little cranky sometimes, and it doesn't cover the whole country yet, but it
offers an interesting "Bird's Eye" feature which I don't think Google Earth
offers (yet). It's >from Microsoft, which means that they may charge for it
someday, but it's free right now.

For example: I went to the site and entered "1632 Washington Ave, Bronx, NY" into
the "Where" box. It displays a map, and a message that Bird's Eye imagery is
available at that location. I clicked on the "bird's eye" link to see that view,
then on the icon that looks like tall buildings to get a close-up. One of the
most interesting features is a compass that you can click on to see the bird's
eye view >from any direction, which can give you a sense of perspective when
you're trying to see what the "old neighborhood" looks like today. It's a little
awkward to use (probably because it's incomplete), but it offers views that, as
far as I know, you won't get elsewhere.

Hank Mishkoff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1632 Washington Ave, Bronx, NY #general

Hank Mishkoff
 

In answer to Bea Swart's question, I used Google Earth to zoom in on that
address and found that space currently occupied by a large warehouse.

There's also a fascinating new service called "Windows Live Local"
at http://local.live.com/. It's still in beta-test, which means that it gets a
little cranky sometimes, and it doesn't cover the whole country yet, but it
offers an interesting "Bird's Eye" feature which I don't think Google Earth
offers (yet). It's >from Microsoft, which means that they may charge for it
someday, but it's free right now.

For example: I went to the site and entered "1632 Washington Ave, Bronx, NY" into
the "Where" box. It displays a map, and a message that Bird's Eye imagery is
available at that location. I clicked on the "bird's eye" link to see that view,
then on the icon that looks like tall buildings to get a close-up. One of the
most interesting features is a compass that you can click on to see the bird's
eye view >from any direction, which can give you a sense of perspective when
you're trying to see what the "old neighborhood" looks like today. It's a little
awkward to use (probably because it's incomplete), but it offers views that, as
far as I know, you won't get elsewhere.

Hank Mishkoff


MOSS - London #unitedkingdom

Pieter Simon Hoekstra <hoekie@...>
 

Does anyone have any research on MOSS family >from London (specifically)?
Looking for members, Elizabeth born about 1898, and her brother Joseph born
earlier and married possibly around 1920. Elizabeth was a "Millenery Buyer"
in the family business. Family address in 1917 was 289 Fullham Palace Rd.
Thanks.
Pieter Simon Hoekstra


Searching GREENFIELD- added Info #general

loufine <loufine@...>
 

I am searching for Joseph (born circa 1949) and his brother Martin (born
circa 1952) GREENFIELD. They are the sons of Sydney and Gloria GREENFIELD.

I have searched the U.S. phone directories and there are many Joseph and
Martin GREENFIELDs listed I am trying to avoid contacting all, ergo JGenn.

Please reply privately.

The parents, Sydney and Gloria were citizens of the U.S. and were probably
born here in New York City. Joseph and Martin, their children were born
in the U.S., unfortunately, I do not know where.
Their paternal grandparents were born in Galicia at the time of the reign
of Franz Josef. The grandmother, Amalia Golde POLLISHUKE, was my great aunt
on my mother's side of my family.

Louis A. Fine
Bellingham WA98225
loufine@comcast.net