This is further to topic of published death notices in the early 20th century.

I would like to draw your attention to the Canadian Jewish
Congress National Archives Keneder Adler Obituaries Project database (Stages
I and II) produced in Dec. 2004, with funding >from the Ottawa Jewish
Genealogical Society. This resource contains all the information found in
every obituary run by the Keneder Adler (Jewish Daily Eagle) of Montreal,
Canada, >from November 19, 1908 - Dec. 31 1931. As obituaries rarely appeared
before 1917, the majority of the information pertains to this date or later.
The information was translated >from the original Yiddish by Eiran Harris and
has been electronically indexed.
The index currently contains information on 2838 death and unveiling
notices. Potential categories of information covered in these notices
include: the obituary date, date of death or unveiling, name, maiden name
and age, spouse's name, number of children, siblings, or other relatives
(sometimes with their names) place of death and last residence, parents'
names, cemetery and shiva information, memberships and affiliations of the
deceased, and additional notes.

The Keneder Adler database is posted online at http://www.jgso.org/ (the
Ottawa Jewish Genealogical Society), but I believe this search engine is
currently experiencing some problems. Information can also be looked up at
the Canadian Jewish Congress National Archives in Montreal, either in person,
over the phone (514-931-7531 ext. 2), or by email to archivist Janice Rosen
at archives@cjc.ca

Stanley Diamond

Stephen Denker asked:

<< Does anyone know what newspaper carried obituaries for Yiddish speaking
working class Jews who lived in Brownsville Brooklyn in June 1916?

My g-grandfather died >from asphyxiation by illuminating gas in a suicide
according to his death certificate. Coroner's inquest records for Brooklyn
at that time have been lost. I am also wondering if there were police
inquiries published in newspapers. >>

Although there may have been a death notice in a Yiddish newspaper, it
is just possible because of the nature of the suicide, there might have
actually been a little news squib in either a Brooklyn newspaper (perhaps
the Brooklyn Eagle) or even a paper such as the New York Times.

My great-granduncle committed suicide in 1921 by jumping off a subway
platform in the Bronx. The New York Times carried three paragraphs
about the suicide (no name included), and the Bronx Home News carried
a very detailed article, including the name of the policeman who took
him to Morrisania Hospital.

Perhaps the public nature of my great-granduncle's suicide is what warranted
the news coverage, but since you know the date, it's still worth checking in
the non-Yiddish papers.

Judy Baston,
San Francisco, CA

Stephen Glazer was seeking information about the relatives of George WHITE
(born George Allweil WEITZ in New York in 1890 and died in Los Angeles in
1968). He was the creator of George White's Scandals...

A newspaper obituary (Van Nuys Valley News of Oct. 13, 1968) lists his
survivors as his sister, Mary FILGER of New York; a niece, Mrs. Annie
WEINRAUB, and a nephew, Jack WARN, both of Hollywood.

Hope this is of some assistance and may help others in finding present contacts.
David Harris
Silver Spring, MD

This is further to topic of published death notices in the early 20th century.

I would like to draw your attention to the Canadian Jewish
Congress National Archives Keneder Adler Obituaries Project database (Stages
I and II) produced in Dec. 2004, with funding >from the Ottawa Jewish
Genealogical Society. This resource contains all the information found in
every obituary run by the Keneder Adler (Jewish Daily Eagle) of Montreal,
Canada, >from November 19, 1908 - Dec. 31 1931. As obituaries rarely appeared
before 1917, the majority of the information pertains to this date or later.
The information was translated >from the original Yiddish by Eiran Harris and
has been electronically indexed.
The index currently contains information on 2838 death and unveiling
notices. Potential categories of information covered in these notices
include: the obituary date, date of death or unveiling, name, maiden name
and age, spouse's name, number of children, siblings, or other relatives
(sometimes with their names) place of death and last residence, parents'
names, cemetery and shiva information, memberships and affiliations of the
deceased, and additional notes.

The Keneder Adler database is posted online at http://www.jgso.org/ (the
Ottawa Jewish Genealogical Society), but I believe this search engine is
currently experiencing some problems. Information can also be looked up at
the Canadian Jewish Congress National Archives in Montreal, either in person,
over the phone (514-931-7531 ext. 2), or by email to archivist Janice Rosen
at archives@cjc.ca

Stanley Diamond

Stephen Denker asked:

<< Does anyone know what newspaper carried obituaries for Yiddish speaking
working class Jews who lived in Brownsville Brooklyn in June 1916?

My g-grandfather died >from asphyxiation by illuminating gas in a suicide
according to his death certificate. Coroner's inquest records for Brooklyn
at that time have been lost. I am also wondering if there were police
inquiries published in newspapers. >>

Although there may have been a death notice in a Yiddish newspaper, it
is just possible because of the nature of the suicide, there might have
actually been a little news squib in either a Brooklyn newspaper (perhaps
the Brooklyn Eagle) or even a paper such as the New York Times.

My great-granduncle committed suicide in 1921 by jumping off a subway
platform in the Bronx. The New York Times carried three paragraphs
about the suicide (no name included), and the Bronx Home News carried
a very detailed article, including the name of the policeman who took
him to Morrisania Hospital.

Perhaps the public nature of my great-granduncle's suicide is what warranted
the news coverage, but since you know the date, it's still worth checking in
the non-Yiddish papers.

Judy Baston,
San Francisco, CA

Stephen Glazer was seeking information about the relatives of George WHITE
(born George Allweil WEITZ in New York in 1890 and died in Los Angeles in
1968). He was the creator of George White's Scandals...

A newspaper obituary (Van Nuys Valley News of Oct. 13, 1968) lists his
survivors as his sister, Mary FILGER of New York; a niece, Mrs. Annie
WEINRAUB, and a nephew, Jack WARN, both of Hollywood.

Hope this is of some assistance and may help others in finding present contacts.
David Harris
Silver Spring, MD

I seek any information concerning the fate of
Alfred MORGENSTERN born 22 Nov. 1927 in Dresden.
and Wolf Werner MORGENSTERN born 19 Sep. 1929 in Dresden.
and of Renate MORGENSTERN born either on 26 Feb 1931 or on 22 Nov.
1927 in Dresden.

They are the children of
Leiser MORGENSTERN , born 30 Jan. 1896 in Mizun/Mizan and his wife
Hanny Hanna nee MANDELBAUM, born 11 Apr. 1904 in Leipzig.

Leiser MORGENSTERN was a coal textile merchant.
He was a brother to Josef and to Isaac MORGENSTERN.
It is believed that Isaac MORGENSTERN emigrated to Palestine
The family of Leiser MORGENSTERN had emigrated to Novi Sad in Yugoslavia.
They were deported >from there and are believed to have been in the
Stanislau Ghetto.
No further information is known at this stage
Do you recognize any of this items of information?
Can you guide us in any way?
If you have no information, do you know of anyone else, anywhere,
where we can ask?

please respond to me direct at davidlewin@btinternet.com Thank you

David Lewin London

I seek any information concerning the fate of
Alfred MORGENSTERN born 22 Nov. 1927 in Dresden.
and Wolf Werner MORGENSTERN born 19 Sep. 1929 in Dresden.
and of Renate MORGENSTERN born either on 26 Feb 1931 or on 22 Nov.
1927 in Dresden.

They are the children of
Leiser MORGENSTERN , born 30 Jan. 1896 in Mizun/Mizan and his wife
Hanny Hanna nee MANDELBAUM, born 11 Apr. 1904 in Leipzig.

Leiser MORGENSTERN was a coal textile merchant.
He was a brother to Josef and to Isaac MORGENSTERN.
It is believed that Isaac MORGENSTERN emigrated to Palestine
The family of Leiser MORGENSTERN had emigrated to Novi Sad in Yugoslavia.
They were deported >from there and are believed to have been in the
Stanislau Ghetto.
No further information is known at this stage
Do you recognize any of this items of information?
Can you guide us in any way?
If you have no information, do you know of anyone else, anywhere,
where we can ask?

please respond to me direct at davidlewin@btinternet.com Thank you

David Lewin London

Hello,

I am looking for information about Sara SCHWAB who married Abraham GOLDMANN.
Sara was my great great grandfather's sister, and was born in Burgpreppach,
Bavaria in about 1903. She had 3 children, Babette, Juda and Jardorf. If
anyone has any information about this family, I would be grateful to hear

from them. Many thanks,

Susan EDEL, Petach Tikva, Israel <susan@deldent.com>

Hello,

I am looking for information about Sara SCHWAB who married Abraham GOLDMANN.
Sara was my great great grandfather's sister, and was born in Burgpreppach,
Bavaria in about 1903. She had 3 children, Babette, Juda and Jardorf. If
anyone has any information about this family, I would be grateful to hear

from them. Many thanks,

Susan EDEL, Petach Tikva, Israel <susan@deldent.com>

Dear Genners,

Within one day of my posting an address destination (handwritten on a ship
manifest) I've received an overwhelming number of responses all in
concordance with "Mangin Street" in lower Manhattan, NY. All have been
positive and I'm truly appreciative of the efforts to bring a resolution to
the puzzle. Thank you all.

Burt Hecht

Dear Genners,

Within one day of my posting an address destination (handwritten on a ship
manifest) I've received an overwhelming number of responses all in
concordance with "Mangin Street" in lower Manhattan, NY. All have been
positive and I'm truly appreciative of the efforts to bring a resolution to
the puzzle. Thank you all.

Burt Hecht

The St. Louis Public Library has an index to obituaries published in the
St. Louis Post Dispatch for the years that you are interested in. You can
see it at:
http://previous.slpl.org/libsrc/obit.htm

You have to search each year separately, but I've found records of many
ancestors this way.

Peggy Mosinger Freedman
researching in St. Louis -- Mosinger, Fleischer, Cahnman, Canman, Kaplan,
Wohl, Gottlieb, Brill

The St. Louis Public Library has an index to obituaries published in the
St. Louis Post Dispatch for the years that you are interested in. You can
see it at:
http://previous.slpl.org/libsrc/obit.htm

You have to search each year separately, but I've found records of many
ancestors this way.

Peggy Mosinger Freedman
researching in St. Louis -- Mosinger, Fleischer, Cahnman, Canman, Kaplan,
Wohl, Gottlieb, Brill

On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:07:17 UTC, batyao@netsynthesis.com (Batya
Olsen) opined:

My great grandfather was called Laibel and in English was known as
Louis. His Hebrew name was Yehuda Lev. On the 1912 passenger manifest
of his arrival to the U.S. his name is written Leib and his nearest
relative back home is a brother, Judel.

In recent discussions here the name Judel was associated with the Hebrew
name Yehuda. Are Yehuda Lev and Yehuda so distinctly different that two
brothers would be named this way?

best regards,

Batya

"Yehuda Lev" is a double name, in which the second element is a
Yiddish 'translation' of the first, so you can ignore it for the
comparison you are asking about. "Judel" is not merely associated with
"Yehuda"; it is the very same name, with only a diminutive suffix (the
"Y" and "J" are merely two different spelling rules). So the question
is really "can there be two brothers, both living and both named
'Yehuda'". My answer would be: "Not in a well-regulated family".
Think about it: the mother would be driven out of her mind trying to
get the right kid to stop tracking mud into her clean house.

One possibility is that there was miscommunication between your ggf
and the purser that wrote the manifest. Another is that your ggf had
no relative whose name he wanted to write in that space, so he wrote
his own in such a form that it wouldn't be recognized.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com

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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:08:19 UTC, batyao@netsynthesis.com (Batya
Olsen) opined:

Shalom,

My great grandmother Mary (Merka) had 7 siblings: Kalman, Zacharia, Max
(Menachem Mendel), Schmel, Schlvah, Sarah and Rachel.

I have never heard of Schmel and Schlvah elsewhere. What Hebrew or other
Yiddish names would be associated with them? Schmel sounds male to me
but I've no idea about Schlvah.

I'd appreciate your ideas. Thanks,

Batya

There is probably an "I" missing >from "Schmel", so a spelling like
"Schmiel" or "Shmiel" would better reflect the pronunciation. "Shmiel"
is what Yiddish does to "Shmuel"; you're right, it's a masculine name.

The is a vowel missing >from the other name, which should be "Schalvah"
or "Shalva" (the "C"s of your spellings are a German influence). This
is a modern feminine name, meaning "Tranquility".

Both are Hebrew names.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address
is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email
form there.

On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:07:17 UTC, batyao@netsynthesis.com (Batya
Olsen) opined:

My great grandfather was called Laibel and in English was known as
Louis. His Hebrew name was Yehuda Lev. On the 1912 passenger manifest
of his arrival to the U.S. his name is written Leib and his nearest
relative back home is a brother, Judel.

In recent discussions here the name Judel was associated with the Hebrew
name Yehuda. Are Yehuda Lev and Yehuda so distinctly different that two
brothers would be named this way?

best regards,

Batya

"Yehuda Lev" is a double name, in which the second element is a
Yiddish 'translation' of the first, so you can ignore it for the
comparison you are asking about. "Judel" is not merely associated with
"Yehuda"; it is the very same name, with only a diminutive suffix (the
"Y" and "J" are merely two different spelling rules). So the question
is really "can there be two brothers, both living and both named
'Yehuda'". My answer would be: "Not in a well-regulated family".
Think about it: the mother would be driven out of her mind trying to
get the right kid to stop tracking mud into her clean house.

One possibility is that there was miscommunication between your ggf
and the purser that wrote the manifest. Another is that your ggf had
no relative whose name he wanted to write in that space, so he wrote
his own in such a form that it wouldn't be recognized.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address
is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email
form there.

On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:08:19 UTC, batyao@netsynthesis.com (Batya
Olsen) opined:

Shalom,

My great grandmother Mary (Merka) had 7 siblings: Kalman, Zacharia, Max
(Menachem Mendel), Schmel, Schlvah, Sarah and Rachel.

I have never heard of Schmel and Schlvah elsewhere. What Hebrew or other
Yiddish names would be associated with them? Schmel sounds male to me
but I've no idea about Schlvah.

I'd appreciate your ideas. Thanks,

Batya

There is probably an "I" missing >from "Schmel", so a spelling like
"Schmiel" or "Shmiel" would better reflect the pronunciation. "Shmiel"
is what Yiddish does to "Shmuel"; you're right, it's a masculine name.

The is a vowel missing >from the other name, which should be "Schalvah"
or "Shalva" (the "C"s of your spellings are a German influence). This
is a modern feminine name, meaning "Tranquility".

Both are Hebrew names.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address
is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email
form there.

I seek any information concerning the fate of
Alfred MORGENSTERN born 22 Nov. 1927 in Dresden.
and Wolf Werner MORGENSTERN born 19 Sep. 1929 in Dresden.
and of Renate MORGENSTERN born either on 26 Feb 1931 or on 22 Nov.
1927 in Dresden.

They are the children of
Leiser MORGENSTERN , born 30 Jan. 1896 in Mizun/Mizan and his wife
Hanny Hanna nee MANDELBAUM, born 11 Apr. 1904 in Leipzig.

Leiser MORGENSTERN was a coal textile merchant.
He was a brother to Josef and to Isaac MORGENSTERN.
It is believed that Isaac MORGENSTERN emigrated to Palestine
The family of Leiser MORGENSTERN had emigrated to Novi Sad in Yugoslavia.
They were deported >from there and are believed to have been in the
Stanislau Ghetto.
No further information is known at this stage
Do you recognize any of this items of information?
Can you guide us in any way?
If you have no information, do you know of anyone else, anywhere,
where we can ask?

please respond to me direct at davidlewin@btinternet.com

Thank you

David Lewin
London

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and register all the surnames of interest to your family research. As you
learn about more names and places of origin, they can always be added, but
only **you** can keep your own listings up to date.

I seek any information concerning the fate of
Alfred MORGENSTERN born 22 Nov. 1927 in Dresden.
and Wolf Werner MORGENSTERN born 19 Sep. 1929 in Dresden.
and of Renate MORGENSTERN born either on 26 Feb 1931 or on 22 Nov.
1927 in Dresden.

They are the children of
Leiser MORGENSTERN , born 30 Jan. 1896 in Mizun/Mizan and his wife
Hanny Hanna nee MANDELBAUM, born 11 Apr. 1904 in Leipzig.

Leiser MORGENSTERN was a coal textile merchant.
He was a brother to Josef and to Isaac MORGENSTERN.
It is believed that Isaac MORGENSTERN emigrated to Palestine
The family of Leiser MORGENSTERN had emigrated to Novi Sad in Yugoslavia.
They were deported >from there and are believed to have been in the
Stanislau Ghetto.
No further information is known at this stage
Do you recognize any of this items of information?
Can you guide us in any way?
If you have no information, do you know of anyone else, anywhere,
where we can ask?

please respond to me direct at davidlewin@btinternet.com

Thank you

David Lewin
London

MODERATOR NOTE: One of JewishGen's most heavily visited sites is the
JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF) and family connections are being made more
and more frequently. If you have not already done so, please log
onto www.jewishgen.org/jgff and using the enter/modify procedure enter
and register all the surnames of interest to your family research. As you
learn about more names and places of origin, they can always be added, but
only **you** can keep your own listings up to date.