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Re: Requesting help in your research #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 05:01:07 UTC, CRomRider@aol.com opined:

<<Does anyone know how I can find a region which was Poland in
1871/1881 and then Germany in 1891?>>

I am not picking on anyone in particular, but I have noticed quite a number
of queries on Jewishgen asking for help when I think a little old fashioned
legwork is in order. I say this as a genealogist who has done things both
the old fashioned way and now the easy way--ask on the internet and have the
answer almost handed to you.
snip

Please don't call me a "grinch" but I think anyone on Jewishgen who has not
read Dan Leeson's "A Genealogical Fable"--stop reading this now and go to
Jewishgen--Infofiles--Basics--and click on Dan Leeson's tale.

It didn't take me too long to figure out that all the experts in Jewish
genealogy became experts by putting in a lot of time and effort themselves.
After all, as the saying goes--"give a man a fish and you feed him for a
day--teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."

Carol Rombro Rider
Baltimore, Maryland USA

MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGenners are always urged to do their research by
themselves first, and then ask for help.
Dan Leeson's tale is locaed at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/dlfable.txt
Thanks to Carol, I have just read Dan Leeson's file for the first
time. Besides being instructive, it's a fun read. What I would add to
it is that anyone serious about searching for information, on
genealogy or not, for either a long-term activity like ours or just
casual questions that come up in the course of the day, is making a
*huge* mistake by not becoming adept with Google. The amount of
information it can give you on any question (but not one like "where
is my file") is staggering. Wisely used, it can make the difference
between success and frustration. I'm sure that Leeson omitted mention
of this important tool only because 1996, the year he wrote his little
feuilleton, was also the year in which Google, not yet called by that
name, came into existence. Ten years is an eternity on the 'Net.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address
is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Requesting help in your research #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 05:01:07 UTC, CRomRider@aol.com opined:

<<Does anyone know how I can find a region which was Poland in
1871/1881 and then Germany in 1891?>>

I am not picking on anyone in particular, but I have noticed quite a number
of queries on Jewishgen asking for help when I think a little old fashioned
legwork is in order. I say this as a genealogist who has done things both
the old fashioned way and now the easy way--ask on the internet and have the
answer almost handed to you.
snip

Please don't call me a "grinch" but I think anyone on Jewishgen who has not
read Dan Leeson's "A Genealogical Fable"--stop reading this now and go to
Jewishgen--Infofiles--Basics--and click on Dan Leeson's tale.

It didn't take me too long to figure out that all the experts in Jewish
genealogy became experts by putting in a lot of time and effort themselves.
After all, as the saying goes--"give a man a fish and you feed him for a
day--teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."

Carol Rombro Rider
Baltimore, Maryland USA

MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGenners are always urged to do their research by
themselves first, and then ask for help.
Dan Leeson's tale is locaed at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/dlfable.txt
Thanks to Carol, I have just read Dan Leeson's file for the first
time. Besides being instructive, it's a fun read. What I would add to
it is that anyone serious about searching for information, on
genealogy or not, for either a long-term activity like ours or just
casual questions that come up in the course of the day, is making a
*huge* mistake by not becoming adept with Google. The amount of
information it can give you on any question (but not one like "where
is my file") is staggering. Wisely used, it can make the difference
between success and frustration. I'm sure that Leeson omitted mention
of this important tool only because 1996, the year he wrote his little
feuilleton, was also the year in which Google, not yet called by that
name, came into existence. Ten years is an eternity on the 'Net.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address
is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.


Re: Requesting help in your research #general

Florette Lynn
 

I agree with the previous postings that Jewish Geners should do their own
legwork first. Some places don't have wonderful libraries, but your state
library reference librarian can help and also can connect to library
consortiums. Learn some basic things about the area you are searching and
learn a little bit about the alphabet. It is easy to find Cyrillic, Hebrew,
and Yiddish alphabets on the internet. Also while I am venting there is
something else, if you have pages to translate, especially handwritten pages
please understand that this takes a great deal of time and effort. I
personally have paid someone to translate letters for me.
Florette Lynn
New Jersey


*Re: Computer program for family photos #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

There is one big pro and one big con of using PowerPoint for creating digital
photo albums:

Pro: Almost every computer user, even those who are less familiar with these
machines, knows how to use this program, so such popularity makes it a first
choice, but

Con: PowerPoint generates HUGE files, since its compression algorithm is quite
deficient. An album with 30-40 photos can result in a file of 10-20 MB. Large
files are difficult to transmit through the Internet and send them to other
people and family members, who will hate to receive and to download them.

My recommendation would be to use a specific digital photo album organizing
software, which has similar resources to Powerpoint but also heavily compresses
the files. Some create self-running presentations and allow burning CDs.
Provided that you have scans of family documents, such programs can include
them too.

You will find several such programs - freewares, sharewares and commercial
products - at:

PC/Windows: http://tinylink.com/?PEkVCSBU3H

MacOS 8-9: http://tinylink.com/?6yHZ05gkQ4

MacOS X: http://tinylink.com/?0q80Ayn6GX

Regards
Tom


I use PowerPoint and have created a slide show of 195 photographs and
family documents with descriptions of each photo and document.

alfred m. silberfeld
MODERATOR NOTE: Any further discussion of technical aspects should be
conducted privately with Al Silberfeld and Tom Venetianer.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Requesting help in your research #general

Florette Lynn
 

I agree with the previous postings that Jewish Geners should do their own
legwork first. Some places don't have wonderful libraries, but your state
library reference librarian can help and also can connect to library
consortiums. Learn some basic things about the area you are searching and
learn a little bit about the alphabet. It is easy to find Cyrillic, Hebrew,
and Yiddish alphabets on the internet. Also while I am venting there is
something else, if you have pages to translate, especially handwritten pages
please understand that this takes a great deal of time and effort. I
personally have paid someone to translate letters for me.
Florette Lynn
New Jersey


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen *Re: Computer program for family photos #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

There is one big pro and one big con of using PowerPoint for creating digital
photo albums:

Pro: Almost every computer user, even those who are less familiar with these
machines, knows how to use this program, so such popularity makes it a first
choice, but

Con: PowerPoint generates HUGE files, since its compression algorithm is quite
deficient. An album with 30-40 photos can result in a file of 10-20 MB. Large
files are difficult to transmit through the Internet and send them to other
people and family members, who will hate to receive and to download them.

My recommendation would be to use a specific digital photo album organizing
software, which has similar resources to Powerpoint but also heavily compresses
the files. Some create self-running presentations and allow burning CDs.
Provided that you have scans of family documents, such programs can include
them too.

You will find several such programs - freewares, sharewares and commercial
products - at:

PC/Windows: http://tinylink.com/?PEkVCSBU3H

MacOS 8-9: http://tinylink.com/?6yHZ05gkQ4

MacOS X: http://tinylink.com/?0q80Ayn6GX

Regards
Tom


I use PowerPoint and have created a slide show of 195 photographs and
family documents with descriptions of each photo and document.

alfred m. silberfeld
MODERATOR NOTE: Any further discussion of technical aspects should be
conducted privately with Al Silberfeld and Tom Venetianer.


Re: Summary of VM 7544 - Prague or U. S. photo? #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Dear group,
Paul has given us some nicely detailed analyses about the locale of
his 1857 photo. I'd like to comment, regarding the "stiff" pose,
that early photographic plates were very slow to accept light, and
flash photography not yet invented, so the people sitting for the
photograph were required to sit absolutely still for several
minutes. This is also one reason they rarely smiled, for it's easier
to maintain a neutral expression for a long time than an expressive one.

Yes, they might also have been "out of their element", for having a
photograph taken back then was not a common event, and saved for
special reasons.

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Summary of VM 7544 - Prague or U. S. photo? #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Dear group,
Paul has given us some nicely detailed analyses about the locale of
his 1857 photo. I'd like to comment, regarding the "stiff" pose,
that early photographic plates were very slow to accept light, and
flash photography not yet invented, so the people sitting for the
photograph were required to sit absolutely still for several
minutes. This is also one reason they rarely smiled, for it's easier
to maintain a neutral expression for a long time than an expressive one.

Yes, they might also have been "out of their element", for having a
photograph taken back then was not a common event, and saved for
special reasons.

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia


Amnon Eder #general

Gayle Schlissel Riley <key2pst@...>
 

I have lost contact with Amnon Eder after he moved to Canada. I first
new him in Israel. Please conact me if you know him or are him.
Gayle >from San Gabriel, Ca near LA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Amnon Eder #general

Gayle Schlissel Riley <key2pst@...>
 

I have lost contact with Amnon Eder after he moved to Canada. I first
new him in Israel. Please conact me if you know him or are him.
Gayle >from San Gabriel, Ca near LA


Searching Given Name Shifre. #general

Giltrip202@...
 

Is anyone familiar with translations of the given name SHIFRE other than
Sophie or Celia? Our family chart has a Sneur Zalman Waldstein married to
Shifre >from Uzpaliai. Of four children we've located with this father's name
, one identifies the mother as Shifre, one names Ruth and one names Rose.
It appears that Shifre was alive during the years of their births.
Marjorie Short
Boston, MA
searching WALDSTEINS and all Related families.

MODERATOR NOTE: The JewishGen GivenNames database can help you. Go to:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/search.htm


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching Given Name Shifre. #general

Giltrip202@...
 

Is anyone familiar with translations of the given name SHIFRE other than
Sophie or Celia? Our family chart has a Sneur Zalman Waldstein married to
Shifre >from Uzpaliai. Of four children we've located with this father's name
, one identifies the mother as Shifre, one names Ruth and one names Rose.
It appears that Shifre was alive during the years of their births.
Marjorie Short
Boston, MA
searching WALDSTEINS and all Related families.

MODERATOR NOTE: The JewishGen GivenNames database can help you. Go to:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/search.htm


Village life of our Jewish ancestors in Bohemia #austria-czech

Peter Lowe <Peter.Lowe@...>
 

Following some discussion about sources describing village life of our
forefathers, I have put together a webpage with some autobiographical
articles >from my JERUSALEM ancestors who lived in Drenice, a small
village in Eastern Bohemia:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pnlowe/jerusalem_memoirs.htm
The links are to PDF files, some of which are quite large.

There is some interesting description of family life in the 1850s in
Drenice, in particular in the "Erinnerungen" by Leopold JERUSALEM.
Apologies to those who cannot read German.

The articles also illustrate the transition >from village to city life in
Prague & Vienna.

Fascinatingly, Leopold JERUSALEM's memoir became the basis for an
anti-semitic article entitled "Jewish "patriarch" >from Brandy" published
in a journal in Prague in 1945.

Regards

Peter Lowe
Hertford, England

Researching: ADLER (Amschelberg), EISNER (Amschelberg & Kolin),
FUERTH (Amschelberg), JERUSALEM, BEYKOVSKY, THORSCH, KOPPERL


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Village life of our Jewish ancestors in Bohemia #austria-czech

Peter Lowe <Peter.Lowe@...>
 

Following some discussion about sources describing village life of our
forefathers, I have put together a webpage with some autobiographical
articles >from my JERUSALEM ancestors who lived in Drenice, a small
village in Eastern Bohemia:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pnlowe/jerusalem_memoirs.htm
The links are to PDF files, some of which are quite large.

There is some interesting description of family life in the 1850s in
Drenice, in particular in the "Erinnerungen" by Leopold JERUSALEM.
Apologies to those who cannot read German.

The articles also illustrate the transition >from village to city life in
Prague & Vienna.

Fascinatingly, Leopold JERUSALEM's memoir became the basis for an
anti-semitic article entitled "Jewish "patriarch" >from Brandy" published
in a journal in Prague in 1945.

Regards

Peter Lowe
Hertford, England

Researching: ADLER (Amschelberg), EISNER (Amschelberg & Kolin),
FUERTH (Amschelberg), JERUSALEM, BEYKOVSKY, THORSCH, KOPPERL


Dirschau, KAMNITZER and HOLDSTEIN #danzig #gdansk #germany #poland

Lewin <lewins@...>
 

At 15:35 21-02-2006, Logan J. Kleinwaks wrote:
"Bernhard Kamnitzer was born in Dirschau (now Tczew, Poland) on October 25,
1890. He worked as a lawyer and served as a judge, legislator, and senator
in the Free City of Danzig. He emigrated via Great Britain to the United
States in 1938, where he was co-founder and president of the American Danzig
Association. Kamnitzer died in New York City on July 15, 1959."
------------------
Bernhard Kamnitzer born in Dirschau in 1890. At 15:35 21-02-2006, Logan J. Kleinwaks wrote:
Steven,

I am not aware of any Danzig burial plots, but would certainly like to learn
of them. Does anyone know of organizations that might have purchased such
plots?

The Leo Baeck Institute's catalog (accessible >from www.lbi.org) has, among
its many entries for items pertaining to Danzig, one for the "Samuel
Echt-Bernhard Kamnitzer Collection," which includes the following
biographical comment about Bernhard Kamnitzer:

"Bernhard Kamnitzer was born in Dirschau (now Tczew, Poland) on October 25,
1890. He worked as a lawyer and served as a judge, legislator, and senator
in the Free City of Danzig. He emigrated via Great Britain to the United
States in 1938, where he was co-founder and president of the American Danzig
Association. Kamnitzer died in New York City on July 15, 1959."

He is presumably a descendant of a Bernhard KAMNITZER of Dirschau who
married in 1853 (as a second wife) Bertha HOLDSTEIN (b 1832). She was the
sister of my great-grandmother Rose MICHAELIS née HOLDSTEIN .
If there are any KAMNITZERs or HOLDSTEINs around today I would be very
happy to hear >from them.

Philip Lewin
London, UK
reply to lewins@onetel.com


Danzig/Gedansk SIG #Danzig #Gdansk #Germany #Poland Dirschau, KAMNITZER and HOLDSTEIN #danzig #gdansk #germany #poland

Lewin <lewins@...>
 

At 15:35 21-02-2006, Logan J. Kleinwaks wrote:
"Bernhard Kamnitzer was born in Dirschau (now Tczew, Poland) on October 25,
1890. He worked as a lawyer and served as a judge, legislator, and senator
in the Free City of Danzig. He emigrated via Great Britain to the United
States in 1938, where he was co-founder and president of the American Danzig
Association. Kamnitzer died in New York City on July 15, 1959."
------------------
Bernhard Kamnitzer born in Dirschau in 1890. At 15:35 21-02-2006, Logan J. Kleinwaks wrote:
Steven,

I am not aware of any Danzig burial plots, but would certainly like to learn
of them. Does anyone know of organizations that might have purchased such
plots?

The Leo Baeck Institute's catalog (accessible >from www.lbi.org) has, among
its many entries for items pertaining to Danzig, one for the "Samuel
Echt-Bernhard Kamnitzer Collection," which includes the following
biographical comment about Bernhard Kamnitzer:

"Bernhard Kamnitzer was born in Dirschau (now Tczew, Poland) on October 25,
1890. He worked as a lawyer and served as a judge, legislator, and senator
in the Free City of Danzig. He emigrated via Great Britain to the United
States in 1938, where he was co-founder and president of the American Danzig
Association. Kamnitzer died in New York City on July 15, 1959."

He is presumably a descendant of a Bernhard KAMNITZER of Dirschau who
married in 1853 (as a second wife) Bertha HOLDSTEIN (b 1832). She was the
sister of my great-grandmother Rose MICHAELIS née HOLDSTEIN .
If there are any KAMNITZERs or HOLDSTEINs around today I would be very
happy to hear >from them.

Philip Lewin
London, UK
reply to lewins@onetel.com


Notebook with Danzig names #danzig #gdansk #germany #poland

Lewin <lewins@...>
 

My grandmother, Emilie SCHOENFELD, left Dirschau, which is quite close to
Danzig, in 1879 to take a teacher training course in Danzig (I have her
certificate). Before she left Danzig (to rejoin her family who had now
moved to Glasgow) she went round her friends and relatives and got them to
write a verse, a profound thought or something in a little note-book which
was labelled "Poesies". The following are the names so far as I can read
them. Anything of any interest to anybody?
Sally GUMPERT, Toni BORCK (wife of Dr Wm SCHOENFELD], Regina SCHOENFELD,
(wife of Bernard SCHEY), Hans WOLFF, Pauline CARA, Marie TESCHKE, Clara
EYFF, Martha KIEHN, O. FUHST, H. KRAUSE?, Olive? ALABANEFT?, F.L. WEITIG,
Emilie BAHRENDT, Jacob MEYER, Ottilie LEMKE.

Philip Lewin
London, UK
reply to lewins@onetel.com


Danzig/Gedansk SIG #Danzig #Gdansk #Germany #Poland Notebook with Danzig names #gdansk #germany #poland #danzig

Lewin <lewins@...>
 

My grandmother, Emilie SCHOENFELD, left Dirschau, which is quite close to
Danzig, in 1879 to take a teacher training course in Danzig (I have her
certificate). Before she left Danzig (to rejoin her family who had now
moved to Glasgow) she went round her friends and relatives and got them to
write a verse, a profound thought or something in a little note-book which
was labelled "Poesies". The following are the names so far as I can read
them. Anything of any interest to anybody?
Sally GUMPERT, Toni BORCK (wife of Dr Wm SCHOENFELD], Regina SCHOENFELD,
(wife of Bernard SCHEY), Hans WOLFF, Pauline CARA, Marie TESCHKE, Clara
EYFF, Martha KIEHN, O. FUHST, H. KRAUSE?, Olive? ALABANEFT?, F.L. WEITIG,
Emilie BAHRENDT, Jacob MEYER, Ottilie LEMKE.

Philip Lewin
London, UK
reply to lewins@onetel.com


visiting Riga and Rezekne #latvia

Max Rempel Myakishev <max@...>
 

We are also planning short visits to Riga and Rezekne in July.
First, we a looking for help in getting Latvian visas in Washington
(we are still Russian citizen, although live here for a long time). It
appears to be difficult or at least expensive (a special insurance is
required) and we a looking for professional help here.
Second, we would also love attending a Shabbat service in Riga and
possibly seeing the exhibition.
Third, and most importantly, we would like to find some Jewish
contacts in Rezekne, take photographs and possibly film some interviews
for our home movie about the Jewish life in 19th century Rezekne. We
also hope to find there any information about rabbi Aaron Azriel YAFET
(about 1810 - 1861).

Max REMPEL Myakishev, Gaithersburg, MD, USA
YAFET, REMPEL, MAIMIND, DRUYAN, STEINBERG, HAIKIND, KATZ
http://tamza.com/museum


Latvia SIG #Latvia visiting Riga and Rezekne #latvia

Max Rempel Myakishev <max@...>
 

We are also planning short visits to Riga and Rezekne in July.
First, we a looking for help in getting Latvian visas in Washington
(we are still Russian citizen, although live here for a long time). It
appears to be difficult or at least expensive (a special insurance is
required) and we a looking for professional help here.
Second, we would also love attending a Shabbat service in Riga and
possibly seeing the exhibition.
Third, and most importantly, we would like to find some Jewish
contacts in Rezekne, take photographs and possibly film some interviews
for our home movie about the Jewish life in 19th century Rezekne. We
also hope to find there any information about rabbi Aaron Azriel YAFET
(about 1810 - 1861).

Max REMPEL Myakishev, Gaithersburg, MD, USA
YAFET, REMPEL, MAIMIND, DRUYAN, STEINBERG, HAIKIND, KATZ
http://tamza.com/museum