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Vital records indexed on Avotaynu fiche of Slovakian records #hungary

Warren D. Fishbaugh <WFISH@...>
 

Dear H-Sig: Can someone explain to me how to access the Jewish Vital Records
indexed on the Avotaynu fiche of Slovakian records, please? The index seems
to describe records >from Zilina, but is only an index. Was there an article
in 'Avotaynu' or where is the actual source of the records? Thanks for the
help.
Warren Dell Fishbaugh
Walworth, New York


Hungary SIG #Hungary Vital records indexed on Avotaynu fiche of Slovakian records #hungary

Warren D. Fishbaugh <WFISH@...>
 

Dear H-Sig: Can someone explain to me how to access the Jewish Vital Records
indexed on the Avotaynu fiche of Slovakian records, please? The index seems
to describe records >from Zilina, but is only an index. Was there an article
in 'Avotaynu' or where is the actual source of the records? Thanks for the
help.
Warren Dell Fishbaugh
Walworth, New York


Re: CZINNER/ZINNER and CZIN? #hungary

Marian Brown
 

Thanks, Lynn!

lynnsaul@theriver.com wrote:

Our Czinner/Zinner family (Satoraljaujhely area) is always Czinner or
Zinner. I've never seen the shorter form (back to approx 1850.) HOWEVER,
I have seen "errors" in the handwriting on records for various names, and
abbreviations used instead of full spelling.

Lynn Saul


Dear all,

My great grandfather has the surname CZINNER/ZINNER in most Slovakian
records but on one the surname is CZIN. I'm fairly sure it is the same
person because of his occupation as a glazier. Would someone know
whether it would be likely to have a shortened the name like this?

TX,

Marian Brown


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: CZINNER/ZINNER and CZIN? #hungary

Marian Brown
 

Thanks, Lynn!

lynnsaul@theriver.com wrote:

Our Czinner/Zinner family (Satoraljaujhely area) is always Czinner or
Zinner. I've never seen the shorter form (back to approx 1850.) HOWEVER,
I have seen "errors" in the handwriting on records for various names, and
abbreviations used instead of full spelling.

Lynn Saul


Dear all,

My great grandfather has the surname CZINNER/ZINNER in most Slovakian
records but on one the surname is CZIN. I'm fairly sure it is the same
person because of his occupation as a glazier. Would someone know
whether it would be likely to have a shortened the name like this?

TX,

Marian Brown


1877 Dvorszak Gazetteer #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

You can access the Dvorszak 1877 Gazetteer and find instructions for
using this invaluable resource at the Hungarian SIG website. Click on
http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/methods.htm and scroll down to General
Information Sources.

Pecs University has scanned and uploaded the entire gazetteer. You can
find it at http://kt.lib.pte.hu/konyvtar/kt03110501/tartalom.html Be
aware that it is in Hungarian. Search by county by scrolling down to
the county you're searching under Megye-Comitat. There's a guide for
using the Dvorzsak Gazetteer at
http://www.iabsi.com/gen/public/dvorzsak_gazetteer.htm

And, of course, you can also find the Gazetteer on microfiche at your
local FHL.

Vivian Kahn, Hungarian SIG Coordinator


Fw: Paul Linhart's query #hungary

Andrew Sanders <andrew-s@...>
 

I know nothing about Davidovka and Russian institution. But the Hungarian
Army had a field hospital at Kiev. After the Voronezh debacle, many forced
labour conscripts, my father included, marched back westward to Kiev, some
managed to get into that hospital for warmth, food and perhaps care. My
father did, and contacted typhoid fever there. He died within days at that
hospital. Could Paul Linhart's grandfather have found his way to the same
place?

Andrew Sanders
Toronto / Haifa


Hungary SIG #Hungary 1877 Dvorszak Gazetteer #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

You can access the Dvorszak 1877 Gazetteer and find instructions for
using this invaluable resource at the Hungarian SIG website. Click on
http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/methods.htm and scroll down to General
Information Sources.

Pecs University has scanned and uploaded the entire gazetteer. You can
find it at http://kt.lib.pte.hu/konyvtar/kt03110501/tartalom.html Be
aware that it is in Hungarian. Search by county by scrolling down to
the county you're searching under Megye-Comitat. There's a guide for
using the Dvorzsak Gazetteer at
http://www.iabsi.com/gen/public/dvorzsak_gazetteer.htm

And, of course, you can also find the Gazetteer on microfiche at your
local FHL.

Vivian Kahn, Hungarian SIG Coordinator


Hungary SIG #Hungary Fw: Paul Linhart's query #hungary

Andrew Sanders <andrew-s@...>
 

I know nothing about Davidovka and Russian institution. But the Hungarian
Army had a field hospital at Kiev. After the Voronezh debacle, many forced
labour conscripts, my father included, marched back westward to Kiev, some
managed to get into that hospital for warmth, food and perhaps care. My
father did, and contacted typhoid fever there. He died within days at that
hospital. Could Paul Linhart's grandfather have found his way to the same
place?

Andrew Sanders
Toronto / Haifa


Neptune Steet not Well Street #unitedkingdom

Chaim freedman
 

Indeed Well Street is now Ensign Street. My father, the late John Freedman
(1910-1999) lived there at #27, during the 1st World War until he left with
his parents for Australia in 1922. #22 is now occupied by the school.

In the census of 1901 my greatgrandparents Michael and Dora Blumenthal
lived at #45 Well Street. They later moved to St.Mark Street.

I visited the area with my father in 1970 and many of the old buildings were
still standing. Last October when I visited again all the buildings were
new. My father told me that he attended a primary school in the centre of
Wellclose square. He was born at #212 St.Georges Road now called the
Highway. His parents, Myer and Annie Freedman were married in the Little
Alie Street Shule in 1909, which was in ruins in 1970 and by 1974 when I
visited it, it had been converted into the Half Moon Theatre. That too has
disappeared in a new building.

In fact during my visit with my wife last October, none of the sites where
my family lived are still standing. I was lucky to see them with my father
in 1970.

Will sentimental memories,
Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
chaimjan@zahav.net.il
http://au.geocities.com/chaimjan2003/Chaim_Freedman.html


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Neptune Steet not Well Street #unitedkingdom

Chaim freedman
 

Indeed Well Street is now Ensign Street. My father, the late John Freedman
(1910-1999) lived there at #27, during the 1st World War until he left with
his parents for Australia in 1922. #22 is now occupied by the school.

In the census of 1901 my greatgrandparents Michael and Dora Blumenthal
lived at #45 Well Street. They later moved to St.Mark Street.

I visited the area with my father in 1970 and many of the old buildings were
still standing. Last October when I visited again all the buildings were
new. My father told me that he attended a primary school in the centre of
Wellclose square. He was born at #212 St.Georges Road now called the
Highway. His parents, Myer and Annie Freedman were married in the Little
Alie Street Shule in 1909, which was in ruins in 1970 and by 1974 when I
visited it, it had been converted into the Half Moon Theatre. That too has
disappeared in a new building.

In fact during my visit with my wife last October, none of the sites where
my family lived are still standing. I was lucky to see them with my father
in 1970.

Will sentimental memories,
Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
chaimjan@zahav.net.il
http://au.geocities.com/chaimjan2003/Chaim_Freedman.html


Davidovka, Ukraine 1943: Soviet Field Hospital and/or Nazi Forced-Labor Camp? #hungary

Ujfeherto@...
 

I am trying to trace the fate of my grandfather Antal LINHARDT who
disappeared >from the #401 Penal Labor-Service Brigade on January 12, 1943 at the
Russian Front after the Voronezh Offensive. According to an eyewitness, my
grandfather was taken to a field hospital at the Front (although it is unclear
whether this was a Nazi or Soviet hospital)

According to the book Fekete konyu by Eugene Levai, Hungarians in exile in
Moscow (Mihaly Farkas, Erno Gero, Bela Illes, and Zoltan Vas) arranged for
POWs taken by the Soviets to be cared for at the Davidovka Hospital in the
Ukraine.

There are several places in the Ukraine called Davidovka, but I believe this
to be at long. 51' 10", lat. 39' 26"

I noticed that Hungarian Olympic fencing athlete, Attila Petschauer, whose
death was depicted in the movie Sunshine, died in Nazi labor camp at
Davidovka, Ukraine.

I am wondering if this is the same Davidovka and if the Soviet's took over
the Nazi labor camp and converted it to a field hospital and/or POW camp.

Does anyone have any information or suggestions on the Davidovka Hospital or
Labor Camp?

Paul Linhardt
Pacific Grove, CA
www.PaulLinhardt.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Davidovka, Ukraine 1943: Soviet Field Hospital and/or Nazi Forced-Labor Camp? #hungary

Ujfeherto@...
 

I am trying to trace the fate of my grandfather Antal LINHARDT who
disappeared >from the #401 Penal Labor-Service Brigade on January 12, 1943 at the
Russian Front after the Voronezh Offensive. According to an eyewitness, my
grandfather was taken to a field hospital at the Front (although it is unclear
whether this was a Nazi or Soviet hospital)

According to the book Fekete konyu by Eugene Levai, Hungarians in exile in
Moscow (Mihaly Farkas, Erno Gero, Bela Illes, and Zoltan Vas) arranged for
POWs taken by the Soviets to be cared for at the Davidovka Hospital in the
Ukraine.

There are several places in the Ukraine called Davidovka, but I believe this
to be at long. 51' 10", lat. 39' 26"

I noticed that Hungarian Olympic fencing athlete, Attila Petschauer, whose
death was depicted in the movie Sunshine, died in Nazi labor camp at
Davidovka, Ukraine.

I am wondering if this is the same Davidovka and if the Soviet's took over
the Nazi labor camp and converted it to a field hospital and/or POW camp.

Does anyone have any information or suggestions on the Davidovka Hospital or
Labor Camp?

Paul Linhardt
Pacific Grove, CA
www.PaulLinhardt.com


Re: CZINNER/ZINNER and CZIN? #hungary

lynnsaul@...
 

Our Czinner/Zinner family (Satoraljaujhely area) is always Czinner or
Zinner. I've never seen the shorter form (back to approx 1850.) HOWEVER,
I have seen "errors" in the handwriting on records for various names, and
abbreviations used instead of full spelling.

Lynn Saul

Dear all,

My great grandfather has the surname CZINNER/ZINNER in most Slovakian
records but on one the surname is CZIN. I'm fairly sure it is the same
person because of his occupation as a glazier. Would someone know
whether it would be likely to have a shortened the name like this?

TX,

Marian Brown


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: CZINNER/ZINNER and CZIN? #hungary

lynnsaul@...
 

Our Czinner/Zinner family (Satoraljaujhely area) is always Czinner or
Zinner. I've never seen the shorter form (back to approx 1850.) HOWEVER,
I have seen "errors" in the handwriting on records for various names, and
abbreviations used instead of full spelling.

Lynn Saul

Dear all,

My great grandfather has the surname CZINNER/ZINNER in most Slovakian
records but on one the surname is CZIN. I'm fairly sure it is the same
person because of his occupation as a glazier. Would someone know
whether it would be likely to have a shortened the name like this?

TX,

Marian Brown


1933/4 photos in Palestine from Hungarian immigrants #hungary

Viviana Grosz-Gluckman <grosz_chai@...>
 

Hello,

I have some black and white photos >from my father and
other young HUngarians who were in Palestine in 1933/4
working in construction sites in Tel Aviv. I want to
know if there are research institutions, museums and
the like in Israel that would be interested in this
historical material, and who to contact.

Viviana Grosz-Gluckman

REsearching GROSZ ILKOVICS MOGYOROS
GOLOP, EDELENY, MISKOLC

Moderator: Please contact Viviana off-list if you have suggestions about repositories that might be interested.


Hungary SIG #Hungary 1933/4 photos in Palestine from Hungarian immigrants #hungary

Viviana Grosz-Gluckman <grosz_chai@...>
 

Hello,

I have some black and white photos >from my father and
other young HUngarians who were in Palestine in 1933/4
working in construction sites in Tel Aviv. I want to
know if there are research institutions, museums and
the like in Israel that would be interested in this
historical material, and who to contact.

Viviana Grosz-Gluckman

REsearching GROSZ ILKOVICS MOGYOROS
GOLOP, EDELENY, MISKOLC

Moderator: Please contact Viviana off-list if you have suggestions about repositories that might be interested.


Re: Romocsahaza #hungary

Robert Neu
 

It is available at the FHL in Salt Lake City and other
public libraries.

There is a reprint, details with your e-mail or just
Google.

Robert

--- marvdav@aol.com wrote:

How might I access a copy of the Hungaarian
Gazatteer mentioned.

Thanks for your help.

Marvin Davis

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Neu <roneu1@yahoo.com>
To: H-SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:45:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [h-sig] Romocsahaza

According to the Hungaarian Gazatteer, in 1877
there
were 6 Jews in Romocshaza. The records for this town
were with the BILKE community then in Bereg County
now
in the Ukraine as Bilki.

Like for most records >from the Ukraine they are not,
so far, available >from the FHL

Robert

<snip>


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Romocsahaza #hungary

Robert Neu
 

It is available at the FHL in Salt Lake City and other
public libraries.

There is a reprint, details with your e-mail or just
Google.

Robert

--- marvdav@aol.com wrote:

How might I access a copy of the Hungaarian
Gazatteer mentioned.

Thanks for your help.

Marvin Davis

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Neu <roneu1@yahoo.com>
To: H-SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:45:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [h-sig] Romocsahaza

According to the Hungaarian Gazatteer, in 1877
there
were 6 Jews in Romocshaza. The records for this town
were with the BILKE community then in Bereg County
now
in the Ukraine as Bilki.

Like for most records >from the Ukraine they are not,
so far, available >from the FHL

Robert

<snip>


the wrong Abraham HERMAN #general

JGyori@...
 

I have a copy of the death certificate for Abraham HERMAN, Certificate #
1726, Bronx, New York. He died 9 February, 1919 at Lincoln Hospital. He lived
at 1037 Teller Avenue. He was born in Russia and had been in New York for 24
years. His father was Israel Herman and his mother was Sophie (maiden name
unknown)
He is buried in the United Hebrew Cemetery. I called they for verification
and he was buried by the Order of Brith Abraham Burial Society. He is in Block
39, Row 4, Grave 29.

He is not the Abraham Herman I was looking for. Turns out mine died July
1917 in Manhattan!
I would be happy it to send this out to anyone who might be related.

Judi Gyori Missel
Mesa, Arizona

Searching: WEBERMAN, KLEIN, SCHWARCZ, DEUTS/DEUTCH, BRAUN, SCHONSTEIN,
ROZENBAUM, ZIMERMAN all >from the small towns around Eger - Maklar, Kerescsend,
Mezokeresztes, Dormand, Abuajszanto, Szina.
SPITZER, SCHWED, GRUNBERGER, GYARFAS >from Satorajauljhely and Budapest
HIRSCHFELD, GYORI, SINGER >from Gyor, Bratislavia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen the wrong Abraham HERMAN #general

JGyori@...
 

I have a copy of the death certificate for Abraham HERMAN, Certificate #
1726, Bronx, New York. He died 9 February, 1919 at Lincoln Hospital. He lived
at 1037 Teller Avenue. He was born in Russia and had been in New York for 24
years. His father was Israel Herman and his mother was Sophie (maiden name
unknown)
He is buried in the United Hebrew Cemetery. I called they for verification
and he was buried by the Order of Brith Abraham Burial Society. He is in Block
39, Row 4, Grave 29.

He is not the Abraham Herman I was looking for. Turns out mine died July
1917 in Manhattan!
I would be happy it to send this out to anyone who might be related.

Judi Gyori Missel
Mesa, Arizona

Searching: WEBERMAN, KLEIN, SCHWARCZ, DEUTS/DEUTCH, BRAUN, SCHONSTEIN,
ROZENBAUM, ZIMERMAN all >from the small towns around Eger - Maklar, Kerescsend,
Mezokeresztes, Dormand, Abuajszanto, Szina.
SPITZER, SCHWED, GRUNBERGER, GYARFAS >from Satorajauljhely and Budapest
HIRSCHFELD, GYORI, SINGER >from Gyor, Bratislavia