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Re: Romocsahaza #hungary

marvdav@...
 

How might I access a copy of the Hungaarian Gazatteer mentioned.

Thanks for your help.

Marvin Davis

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Neu <roneu1@yahoo.com>
To: H-SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:45:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [h-sig] Romocsahaza

According to the Hungaarian Gazatteer, in 1877 there
were 6 Jews in Romocshaza. The records for this town
were with the BILKE community then in Bereg County now
in the Ukraine as Bilki.

Like for most records >from the Ukraine they are not,
so far, available >from the FHL

Robert

<snip>


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Romocsahaza #hungary

marvdav@...
 

How might I access a copy of the Hungaarian Gazatteer mentioned.

Thanks for your help.

Marvin Davis

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Neu <roneu1@yahoo.com>
To: H-SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:45:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [h-sig] Romocsahaza

According to the Hungaarian Gazatteer, in 1877 there
were 6 Jews in Romocshaza. The records for this town
were with the BILKE community then in Bereg County now
in the Ukraine as Bilki.

Like for most records >from the Ukraine they are not,
so far, available >from the FHL

Robert

<snip>


Kunagota Cemetery #hungary

John J Kovacs <j.kovacs@...>
 

In response to my inquiry, the MAZSIHISZ, the
Hungarian Jewish Religious Community Alliance, has
informed me that they do not wish to to discontinue
the Jewish cemetery in Kunagota. It is against our
religious traditions to discontinue our cemeteries.

The Alliance has also provided me with a copy of their
letter to the office of the Kunagota mayors's office
stating the foregoing. The Kunagota cemetery of 1122
m2 is the property of the MAZSIHISZ and they request
the mayor's office that the cemetery be put in good
condition and request an estimate for the expenses.
John (Janos) Kovacs


Hungary SIG #Hungary Kunagota Cemetery #hungary

John J Kovacs <j.kovacs@...>
 

In response to my inquiry, the MAZSIHISZ, the
Hungarian Jewish Religious Community Alliance, has
informed me that they do not wish to to discontinue
the Jewish cemetery in Kunagota. It is against our
religious traditions to discontinue our cemeteries.

The Alliance has also provided me with a copy of their
letter to the office of the Kunagota mayors's office
stating the foregoing. The Kunagota cemetery of 1122
m2 is the property of the MAZSIHISZ and they request
the mayor's office that the cemetery be put in good
condition and request an estimate for the expenses.
John (Janos) Kovacs


Re: Romocsahaza #hungary

Robert Neu
 

The Hungarian gazetteer does list Romocsa in Zala, as
having 5 Jews in 1877, but does not indicate where
they worshipped. That's what you need to discover,
writing to the Mayor of the town, and the closest
towns that are known to have a community - Nagykanizsa
would be a good start.

Robert

--- Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@earthlink.net>
wrote:

Thank you, Robert, for your reply. I've since
decided that they were
actually >from a tiny village called Ramocsa, which
is in Zala County, very
close to the Slovenian border. When I tried to find
out about LDS films,
they kept referring to Ramocsahaza, which is
completely in the opposite
direction. I guess I'm out of luck.

Pat

At 12:45 AM 1/22/2006, you wrote:
According to the Hungaarian Gazatteer, in 1877
there
were 6 Jews in Romocshaza. The records for this
town
were with the BILKE community then in Bereg County
now
in the Ukraine as Bilki.

Like for most records >from the Ukraine they are
not,
so far, available >from the FHL

Robert

--- Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@earthlink.net>
wrote:

Several years ago someone told me to try
Romocsahaza
instead of the village
I was attempting to find. This person said they
had
relatives there. I
would like to know if it is possible to get
marriage
or birth records for
this village through LDS.

You may reply offline if you so desire.

Pat


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Romocsahaza #hungary

Robert Neu
 

The Hungarian gazetteer does list Romocsa in Zala, as
having 5 Jews in 1877, but does not indicate where
they worshipped. That's what you need to discover,
writing to the Mayor of the town, and the closest
towns that are known to have a community - Nagykanizsa
would be a good start.

Robert

--- Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@earthlink.net>
wrote:

Thank you, Robert, for your reply. I've since
decided that they were
actually >from a tiny village called Ramocsa, which
is in Zala County, very
close to the Slovenian border. When I tried to find
out about LDS films,
they kept referring to Ramocsahaza, which is
completely in the opposite
direction. I guess I'm out of luck.

Pat

At 12:45 AM 1/22/2006, you wrote:
According to the Hungaarian Gazatteer, in 1877
there
were 6 Jews in Romocshaza. The records for this
town
were with the BILKE community then in Bereg County
now
in the Ukraine as Bilki.

Like for most records >from the Ukraine they are
not,
so far, available >from the FHL

Robert

--- Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@earthlink.net>
wrote:

Several years ago someone told me to try
Romocsahaza
instead of the village
I was attempting to find. This person said they
had
relatives there. I
would like to know if it is possible to get
marriage
or birth records for
this village through LDS.

You may reply offline if you so desire.

Pat


Re: Abraham PERLMAN, Cleveland, Ohio c. 1910 #general

H Duboff
 

Eileen Price asked:

The name of Abraham PERLMAN was listed as the informant on two death
certificates, for my maternal grandfather and maternal great aunt, both of
Cleveland, Ohio. The two years are 1910 and 1912. Perhaps he knew the family
back in Brest Litovsk, or nearby villages.
If anyone has any information about this person, please contact me privately
B"H

Some suggestions for you which might help others, as well:

1. Try to contact the office of the cemetery where the person is buried to see
if they have any other information that the death certificate might not have.
Perhaps this person is even buried in the same cemetery--the information on
their burial records might hold more clues.

2. Check the census for the address listed for the informant on the death
certificate and/or the cemetery records.

3. See if the person has a WWI draft card which could hold more clues.

4. Do you have copies of any naturalization papers for your grandfather or
other members of the family? Sometimes the names of the witnesses hold clues
as well.

Best of luck,
H Duboff

Researching: FAERSTEIN, TICKNER; (Skalo - Austria);MAILSHANKER/MELSZENKER
(Grading/Gorodok Podol. and Buenos Aires - Argentina); OBLETZ, ROSOFF (Dokshytz
- Belarus) ; FINN (Gluboko - Vilna); RAFKIN/RAVKIN (Dwinsk - Russia);
ZEMBLE (Lushnitz - Russia);DUBOWY (Zalocie - Austria)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Abraham PERLMAN, Cleveland, Ohio c. 1910 #general

H Duboff
 

Eileen Price asked:

The name of Abraham PERLMAN was listed as the informant on two death
certificates, for my maternal grandfather and maternal great aunt, both of
Cleveland, Ohio. The two years are 1910 and 1912. Perhaps he knew the family
back in Brest Litovsk, or nearby villages.
If anyone has any information about this person, please contact me privately
B"H

Some suggestions for you which might help others, as well:

1. Try to contact the office of the cemetery where the person is buried to see
if they have any other information that the death certificate might not have.
Perhaps this person is even buried in the same cemetery--the information on
their burial records might hold more clues.

2. Check the census for the address listed for the informant on the death
certificate and/or the cemetery records.

3. See if the person has a WWI draft card which could hold more clues.

4. Do you have copies of any naturalization papers for your grandfather or
other members of the family? Sometimes the names of the witnesses hold clues
as well.

Best of luck,
H Duboff

Researching: FAERSTEIN, TICKNER; (Skalo - Austria);MAILSHANKER/MELSZENKER
(Grading/Gorodok Podol. and Buenos Aires - Argentina); OBLETZ, ROSOFF (Dokshytz
- Belarus) ; FINN (Gluboko - Vilna); RAFKIN/RAVKIN (Dwinsk - Russia);
ZEMBLE (Lushnitz - Russia);DUBOWY (Zalocie - Austria)


Re: Revue du Cercle de Genealogie Juive, Issue 84 #france

Ralph Baer
 

Jean-Pierre KLEITZ has found the documents preparing the 1784
Census of the (Alsatian) Jews deposited at the Haut-Rhin
archives. They contain richer information than the published
final census, family names, birth dates and places of the family
members/,/ titles and trades, estimated assets, links and rights
between the individual and the sire (taxes, etc.).
Is this for the entire Haut-Rhin or one specific unnamed town?

Ralph Baer Washington, DC ursusminor@alum.rpi.edu


French SIG #France Re: Revue du Cercle de Genealogie Juive, Issue 84 #france

Ralph Baer
 

Jean-Pierre KLEITZ has found the documents preparing the 1784
Census of the (Alsatian) Jews deposited at the Haut-Rhin
archives. They contain richer information than the published
final census, family names, birth dates and places of the family
members/,/ titles and trades, estimated assets, links and rights
between the individual and the sire (taxes, etc.).
Is this for the entire Haut-Rhin or one specific unnamed town?

Ralph Baer Washington, DC ursusminor@alum.rpi.edu


GINSBERG- Dental School in 19th Century Germany #germany

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

A great uncle of mine Gustav GINSBERG (1872-1922),
born in Beuthen studied dentistry somewhere in
Germany, and by January 1895, was qualified, and was
working in South Africa.

How long was the duration of the average course of
study for dentistry in Germany in the 1880s and 1890s?

Which universities offered dentistry as a course of
study in Germany in this period?

This information will greatly help me with Gustav's
biography.

Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


German SIG #Germany GINSBERG- Dental School in 19th Century Germany #germany

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

A great uncle of mine Gustav GINSBERG (1872-1922),
born in Beuthen studied dentistry somewhere in
Germany, and by January 1895, was qualified, and was
working in South Africa.

How long was the duration of the average course of
study for dentistry in Germany in the 1880s and 1890s?

Which universities offered dentistry as a course of
study in Germany in this period?

This information will greatly help me with Gustav's
biography.

Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


Viewmate file VM7431- need help with deciphering name #germany

Joan Zeller <jrzeller@...>
 

Hello List,

I need help deciphering the name of my GG aunt born 13 April 1855 in
Zuntersbach to Lazarus ZELLER and his wife Matilde EBERT of
Kleinbardorf.

I have uploaded a portion of the birth records page showing her name
(highlighted in yellow, second listing on the page). It has been
transcribed for me as "Cebeidta" but that doesn't sound right to me.
I'm hoping that someone familiar with Jewish names of the period might
recognize it.

The image is VM7431 on the Viewmate site and can be found directly by
going to:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7431

Please reply privately, and not to the list. Thank you!

Joan Zeller Pittsford, NY USA <jrzeller@rochester.rr.com>


German SIG #Germany Viewmate file VM7431- need help with deciphering name #germany

Joan Zeller <jrzeller@...>
 

Hello List,

I need help deciphering the name of my GG aunt born 13 April 1855 in
Zuntersbach to Lazarus ZELLER and his wife Matilde EBERT of
Kleinbardorf.

I have uploaded a portion of the birth records page showing her name
(highlighted in yellow, second listing on the page). It has been
transcribed for me as "Cebeidta" but that doesn't sound right to me.
I'm hoping that someone familiar with Jewish names of the period might
recognize it.

The image is VM7431 on the Viewmate site and can be found directly by
going to:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7431

Please reply privately, and not to the list. Thank you!

Joan Zeller Pittsford, NY USA <jrzeller@rochester.rr.com>


EHRLICH/LEVISEUR - Dentistry in the Orange River Colony. #southafrica

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

A distant relative of mine, Gustav GINSBERG
(1872-1922), who had qualified as a dentist in Germany
was attempting in 1907 to have his German
qualifications recognised by the British authorities
in the Orange River Colony (ORC). His brother Franz
GINSBERG, MLA wrote a letter on his behalf in which he
refers to,
"... a number of prominent men of the ORC can testify.
For instance Mr Ehrlich Mr Leviseur etc...".

To whom was Franz Ginsberg referring - ie which Mr
EHRLICH and LEVISEUR ?
Are they the persons mentioned on the SA SIG
website: <http://www.jewishgen.org/SAfrica/communities/8/>,
or possibly some other people with those names?

Were there any dentists around in the ORC at this time
with these names?

Thanks in advance,
Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica EHRLICH/LEVISEUR - Dentistry in the Orange River Colony. #southafrica

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

A distant relative of mine, Gustav GINSBERG
(1872-1922), who had qualified as a dentist in Germany
was attempting in 1907 to have his German
qualifications recognised by the British authorities
in the Orange River Colony (ORC). His brother Franz
GINSBERG, MLA wrote a letter on his behalf in which he
refers to,
"... a number of prominent men of the ORC can testify.
For instance Mr Ehrlich Mr Leviseur etc...".

To whom was Franz Ginsberg referring - ie which Mr
EHRLICH and LEVISEUR ?
Are they the persons mentioned on the SA SIG
website: <http://www.jewishgen.org/SAfrica/communities/8/>,
or possibly some other people with those names?

Were there any dentists around in the ORC at this time
with these names?

Thanks in advance,
Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


How to Research a 1905 NYC Address -- 27 Pitt Street #general

Sabra Waldfogel <sawaldfogel@...>
 

Dear Genners:
I'm looking for assistance in researching a Manhattan building address
circa 1905 (27 Pitt Street on the Lower East Side). I've pinpointed it
as a work address >from the entry in the city directory and the
naturalization record. I'm curious as to when the building was built,
who owned it, and who the tenants were (if they were businesses rather
than individuals) around 1905.

I've tried the NYC online property profile, which lists old permits and
changes, but haven't found anything for that address. The building may
no longer be standing. I'm planning to look at the 1905 NY census to see
who was enumerated there, and that should help.

Here are the questions:

* Is there a reverse directory by address for Manhattan in 1905?
(The city directory doesn't have one--too bad!)
* At which NYC municipal department would I find permit,
construction, or title information for a specific address that
goes back as far as 1905 or even before 1900?
* How can I access the NYC municipal information remotely, since I
live in Minneapolis?

Thanks for your help.

Sabra Waldfogel
Minneapolis, Minnesota


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen How to Research a 1905 NYC Address -- 27 Pitt Street #general

Sabra Waldfogel <sawaldfogel@...>
 

Dear Genners:
I'm looking for assistance in researching a Manhattan building address
circa 1905 (27 Pitt Street on the Lower East Side). I've pinpointed it
as a work address >from the entry in the city directory and the
naturalization record. I'm curious as to when the building was built,
who owned it, and who the tenants were (if they were businesses rather
than individuals) around 1905.

I've tried the NYC online property profile, which lists old permits and
changes, but haven't found anything for that address. The building may
no longer be standing. I'm planning to look at the 1905 NY census to see
who was enumerated there, and that should help.

Here are the questions:

* Is there a reverse directory by address for Manhattan in 1905?
(The city directory doesn't have one--too bad!)
* At which NYC municipal department would I find permit,
construction, or title information for a specific address that
goes back as far as 1905 or even before 1900?
* How can I access the NYC municipal information remotely, since I
live in Minneapolis?

Thanks for your help.

Sabra Waldfogel
Minneapolis, Minnesota


Wrong Declaration of Intent #general

Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

I have received a copy of a Declaration of Intent >from the Kings County
Clerk's Office, Brooklyn, NY, for Morris BLUM, dated December 13, 1921.
This is not my Morris BLUM.
Details: aged 42, Tailor, born Ojrudinski, Russia on January 15, 1881.
Resides at 114 South 8th St, Brooklyn, NY.
Arrived >from Hamburg on the Pretoria January 1904 Wife is Fannie

If this is your Morris BLUM, contact me privately so I can send you the
Declaration.

Eden Joachim
Pomona, New York
Looking for Morris / Murray BLUM, son of Israel and Gittel of Makow
Mazowiecki and Brooklyn


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Wrong Declaration of Intent #general

Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

I have received a copy of a Declaration of Intent >from the Kings County
Clerk's Office, Brooklyn, NY, for Morris BLUM, dated December 13, 1921.
This is not my Morris BLUM.
Details: aged 42, Tailor, born Ojrudinski, Russia on January 15, 1881.
Resides at 114 South 8th St, Brooklyn, NY.
Arrived >from Hamburg on the Pretoria January 1904 Wife is Fannie

If this is your Morris BLUM, contact me privately so I can send you the
Declaration.

Eden Joachim
Pomona, New York
Looking for Morris / Murray BLUM, son of Israel and Gittel of Makow
Mazowiecki and Brooklyn