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GERSON family from Far Rockaway #general

Vangheluwe <vangheluwe.smietan@...>
 

Many thanks to the genners who help me to find my 3 US citizens and cousins
Kenneth S. GERSON, M. GERSON and Cary A. GERSON. His mother is Rosalyn. (I
dont know where they live today, and need your help.)

Daniel VANGHELUWE
France

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GERSON family from Far Rockaway #general

Vangheluwe <vangheluwe.smietan@...>
 

Many thanks to the genners who help me to find my 3 US citizens and cousins
Kenneth S. GERSON, M. GERSON and Cary A. GERSON. His mother is Rosalyn. (I
dont know where they live today, and need your help.)

Daniel VANGHELUWE
France

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WEITZMAN, Cracow #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

My greatgrandfather, Michael WEITZMAN of London was born in Cracow in 1851.
I don't know when he arrived in London but he was certainly established
there by 1889 when he married my greatgrandmother.

Does this ring any bells with any one?

Thanks very much

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WEITZMAN, Cracow #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

My greatgrandfather, Michael WEITZMAN of London was born in Cracow in 1851.
I don't know when he arrived in London but he was certainly established
there by 1889 when he married my greatgrandmother.

Does this ring any bells with any one?

Thanks very much

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


Re: MASZARFALVA, HUNGARY #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

if you look them up on the 1913 gazetteer on bogardi.com, you will see that maszarfalva is in bereg county, and ramocsahaza is in adjoining szabolcs county.

as for their ages, roza gross is listed on the manifest (sept 4, 1906) as 16, and her sister is listed as 27 (and is accompanied by her 2 boys, zoltan who is 3 years old, and jeno who is 4 1/2 years old).



....... tom klein, toronto

Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@earthlink.net> wrote:

Here's the problem: on the passenger manifests, Roza Grosz is going to the
home of her brother-in-law, atyas Weiszhaus. Her sister is Matgassac Grosz
Weiszhauz. Roza says her birthplace is Masza'rfalva and her sister, in
another passenger manifest, says she is going to her husband, Matyas, and
she is born in Ramocsahaza. Are the two villages near each other? Roza
seems to be the older of the two.


Re: SZANY, HUNGARY #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

According to Jordan Auslander's Gazetteer, Szany was probably in Csorna
district of Sopron megye. Check records in Szilsarkany.
Fertosmentmiklos, also known as Szerdahelyszentmiklos, was also in
Sopron but in Kapuvar jaras (district). Check Nemetkeresztur for
records.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA

Subject: SZANY, HUNGARY
From: Viviane Kluska <vivkluska@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 08:02:20 -0500
X-Message-Number: 2

Hello Fellow Reserchers:
I have information that my paternal great-grandfather, Markus Stricker
was born in Szany Hungary. The birthday would have been around mid
1800, 1850 something. He had a child Yeno, in 1886 in
Fertoszentmiklos. He had a child Riza in 1882 in Fertoszentmiklos.=20
He had a child Robi in 1881 in Beled. I estimate he may have been
around 30 when Yeno was born.....If Markus Stricker was born in Szany
in the 1800 something.....where would his birth records be found?
Does anyone know anything about Szany. I never even heard of it until
now.
Viviane Weinberger Kluska
Canton, Michigan
you can email me directly at vivkluska@gmail.com or vivkluska@rock.com
I have troubles with both emails.

RESEARCHING:
STRICKER: Szany, Fertoszentmiklos, Beled, Sopron, Papa, Gyor
APFEL: Tet, also >from "Sopron-Gyor-Moson" area


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Re: MASZARFALVA, HUNGARY #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

if you look them up on the 1913 gazetteer on bogardi.com, you will see that maszarfalva is in bereg county, and ramocsahaza is in adjoining szabolcs county.

as for their ages, roza gross is listed on the manifest (sept 4, 1906) as 16, and her sister is listed as 27 (and is accompanied by her 2 boys, zoltan who is 3 years old, and jeno who is 4 1/2 years old).



....... tom klein, toronto

Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@earthlink.net> wrote:

Here's the problem: on the passenger manifests, Roza Grosz is going to the
home of her brother-in-law, atyas Weiszhaus. Her sister is Matgassac Grosz
Weiszhauz. Roza says her birthplace is Masza'rfalva and her sister, in
another passenger manifest, says she is going to her husband, Matyas, and
she is born in Ramocsahaza. Are the two villages near each other? Roza
seems to be the older of the two.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: SZANY, HUNGARY #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

According to Jordan Auslander's Gazetteer, Szany was probably in Csorna
district of Sopron megye. Check records in Szilsarkany.
Fertosmentmiklos, also known as Szerdahelyszentmiklos, was also in
Sopron but in Kapuvar jaras (district). Check Nemetkeresztur for
records.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA

Subject: SZANY, HUNGARY
From: Viviane Kluska <vivkluska@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 08:02:20 -0500
X-Message-Number: 2

Hello Fellow Reserchers:
I have information that my paternal great-grandfather, Markus Stricker
was born in Szany Hungary. The birthday would have been around mid
1800, 1850 something. He had a child Yeno, in 1886 in
Fertoszentmiklos. He had a child Riza in 1882 in Fertoszentmiklos.=20
He had a child Robi in 1881 in Beled. I estimate he may have been
around 30 when Yeno was born.....If Markus Stricker was born in Szany
in the 1800 something.....where would his birth records be found?
Does anyone know anything about Szany. I never even heard of it until
now.
Viviane Weinberger Kluska
Canton, Michigan
you can email me directly at vivkluska@gmail.com or vivkluska@rock.com
I have troubles with both emails.

RESEARCHING:
STRICKER: Szany, Fertoszentmiklos, Beled, Sopron, Papa, Gyor
APFEL: Tet, also >from "Sopron-Gyor-Moson" area


Re: MASZARFALVA, HUNGARY #hungary

Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
 

Ues, it is >from the original passenger manifest. I got it through the Ellis
Island site.

Another researcher, not on H-Sig that I know, suggested the same answer as
Tom, but then she also looked at the passenger manifest and agreed with me
that Matgassac was correct. On another official form >from the state of New
York, done by Soundex, it lists Weisshaus, Matgasse, age 27, Group No. 42,
List No. 19, Citizen of Hungary, steamer Noordam. Unfortunately, in sloppy
research I neglected to record where this record came from. It is, however,
the right steamer and date (Sept. 4, 1906.) It looks like Form 11-1229.


Pat

At 12:35 PM 2/12/2006, tom klein wrote:
i've never heard of a name like "matgassac" or "matgasie". could it be a
misreading of something else? have you looked at the image file of the
actual manifest?

it is, however, probably not a coincidence that her husband's name was
ma'tya's. i would hazard a guess that what is on the manifest is actually
ma'tya'sne' (i.e. mrs. matyas), which would have been the normal
(hungarian) way of referring to her at the time.


....... tom klein, toronto


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: MASZARFALVA, HUNGARY #hungary

Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
 

Ues, it is >from the original passenger manifest. I got it through the Ellis
Island site.

Another researcher, not on H-Sig that I know, suggested the same answer as
Tom, but then she also looked at the passenger manifest and agreed with me
that Matgassac was correct. On another official form >from the state of New
York, done by Soundex, it lists Weisshaus, Matgasse, age 27, Group No. 42,
List No. 19, Citizen of Hungary, steamer Noordam. Unfortunately, in sloppy
research I neglected to record where this record came from. It is, however,
the right steamer and date (Sept. 4, 1906.) It looks like Form 11-1229.


Pat

At 12:35 PM 2/12/2006, tom klein wrote:
i've never heard of a name like "matgassac" or "matgasie". could it be a
misreading of something else? have you looked at the image file of the
actual manifest?

it is, however, probably not a coincidence that her husband's name was
ma'tya's. i would hazard a guess that what is on the manifest is actually
ma'tya'sne' (i.e. mrs. matyas), which would have been the normal
(hungarian) way of referring to her at the time.


....... tom klein, toronto


Re: MASZARFALVA, HUNGARY #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

i've never heard of a name like "matgassac" or "matgasie". could it be a misreading of something else? have you looked at the image file of the actual manifest?

it is, however, probably not a coincidence that her husband's name was ma'tya's. i would hazard a guess that what is on the manifest is actually ma'tya'sne' (i.e. mrs. matyas), which would have been the normal (hungarian) way of referring to her at the time.


....... tom klein, toronto

Again, thanks to all that responded to my original message.

Here's the problem: on the passenger manifests, Roza Grosz is going to the home of her brother-in-lawl, atyas Weiszhaus. Her sister is Matgassac Grosz Weiszhauz. Roza says her birthplace is Masza'rfalva and her sister, in another passenger manifest, says she is going to her husband, Matyas, and she is born in Ramocsahaza. Are the two villages near each other? Roza seems to be the older of the two.

I'm still tring to figure out where the name Matgassac comes from. Someone else has checked this name in the passenger manifest and says I've got the correct spelling. In another place she is listed as Matgasie.

If anyone has any iinformation on my two problems, I would appreciate any help I can get.

Pat

At 09:43 AM 2/10/2006, tom klein wrote:
there is a town called masza'rfalva in the munkacs district of bereg megye. see: <http://www.radixindex.com/cgi-bin/hn1913.cgi?place=maszar>.



....... tom klein, toronto



Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@earthlink.net> wrote:

Has anyone heard of this Maszarfalva, Hungary? I found it on a passenger
list featuring Rosa Grosz. If this is the right person, it could possibly
be near the Romanian border because her sister married a man >from Nyirbator.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: MASZARFALVA, HUNGARY #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

i've never heard of a name like "matgassac" or "matgasie". could it be a misreading of something else? have you looked at the image file of the actual manifest?

it is, however, probably not a coincidence that her husband's name was ma'tya's. i would hazard a guess that what is on the manifest is actually ma'tya'sne' (i.e. mrs. matyas), which would have been the normal (hungarian) way of referring to her at the time.


....... tom klein, toronto

Again, thanks to all that responded to my original message.

Here's the problem: on the passenger manifests, Roza Grosz is going to the home of her brother-in-lawl, atyas Weiszhaus. Her sister is Matgassac Grosz Weiszhauz. Roza says her birthplace is Masza'rfalva and her sister, in another passenger manifest, says she is going to her husband, Matyas, and she is born in Ramocsahaza. Are the two villages near each other? Roza seems to be the older of the two.

I'm still tring to figure out where the name Matgassac comes from. Someone else has checked this name in the passenger manifest and says I've got the correct spelling. In another place she is listed as Matgasie.

If anyone has any iinformation on my two problems, I would appreciate any help I can get.

Pat

At 09:43 AM 2/10/2006, tom klein wrote:
there is a town called masza'rfalva in the munkacs district of bereg megye. see: <http://www.radixindex.com/cgi-bin/hn1913.cgi?place=maszar>.



....... tom klein, toronto



Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@earthlink.net> wrote:

Has anyone heard of this Maszarfalva, Hungary? I found it on a passenger
list featuring Rosa Grosz. If this is the right person, it could possibly
be near the Romanian border because her sister married a man >from Nyirbator.


Re: COULD SOMEONE TRANSLATE THE VIEWMATE - I LOST ORIGINAL TRANSLATION #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

re-translation is not a problem (i will send it privately), but it's probably a good time to stress the importance of having backup copies of our (priceless) research. the simple fact is, all computers will fail sooner or later (almost all computer components have a rated life expectancy, in HOURS), so it is imperative to maintain extra copies of the information they contain. even just printing it and filing it away is better than nothing.

however, i would suggest that it is not appropriate to use jewishgen for this backup, since it would be rather impractical to "store" data for all of the thousands of jewishgen recipients.


....... tom klein, toronto

Viviane Kluska <vivkluska@gmail.com> wrote:

I posted my grandfather's picture and Hungarian Text below it on or
around May 17, 2005. Unfortunately I lost the translation when my
computer crashed. Could you please send the translation to H-SIG, NOT
ME.
I need a place to store it, if my computer (G-d forbid) crashes again.
Moderator: Tom is correct. JewishGen and H-SIG do not have the capacity to "store" data for individual researchers. However, if you submit your family files in GEDCOM format to the Family Tree of the Jewish People, they will remain available for you, or anyone else.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: COULD SOMEONE TRANSLATE THE VIEWMATE - I LOST ORIGINAL TRANSLATION #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

re-translation is not a problem (i will send it privately), but it's probably a good time to stress the importance of having backup copies of our (priceless) research. the simple fact is, all computers will fail sooner or later (almost all computer components have a rated life expectancy, in HOURS), so it is imperative to maintain extra copies of the information they contain. even just printing it and filing it away is better than nothing.

however, i would suggest that it is not appropriate to use jewishgen for this backup, since it would be rather impractical to "store" data for all of the thousands of jewishgen recipients.


....... tom klein, toronto

Viviane Kluska <vivkluska@gmail.com> wrote:

I posted my grandfather's picture and Hungarian Text below it on or
around May 17, 2005. Unfortunately I lost the translation when my
computer crashed. Could you please send the translation to H-SIG, NOT
ME.
I need a place to store it, if my computer (G-d forbid) crashes again.
Moderator: Tom is correct. JewishGen and H-SIG do not have the capacity to "store" data for individual researchers. However, if you submit your family files in GEDCOM format to the Family Tree of the Jewish People, they will remain available for you, or anyone else.


JGS - Hamilton (Ontario, Canada) & Area - Wed, Feb 15th Meeting #southafrica

Ina Levitt-Yanover <inaly@...>
 

Hassidic Rabbinic Dynasties
Offered by
Jewish Genealogical Society- Hamilton & Area
Wednesday, February 15, 2006
7:30 PM to 10:00 PM
Location: Temple Anshe Sholom
215 Cline Avenue North, Hamilton, ON

We are pleased to welcome Dr. Louis Greenspan who will speak about Hassidic
Rabbinic Dynasties. The Hassidic movement was originated in Eastern Europe
by Rabbi Israel ben Eleizer (1700-1760), also known as the Ba'al Shem Tov.
It eventually became the way of life of the majority of Jews in Ukraine,
Galicia, and central Poland; the movement also had sizable groups of
followers in Belarus-Lithuania and Hungary. In a few generations it had
developed into a network of dynasties each centred around a particular
Tzaddik or Rebbe, each of them vying for supremacy. Dr. Greenspan will show
us how these various dynastic battles related to family life at a time when
the Jewish world was in continuous upheaval.

This promises to be a fascinating presentation..

The Jewish Genealogical Society - Hamilton & Area (JGS - H&A) is a
non-profit organization that is run by members for members. Membership in
JGS - H&A is open to all regardless of religious affiliation or level of
experience. We have members who are just beginning their journeys as well as
some who are published genealogists. Admission for non - members is $5 which
will be applied when joining in the same membership year.

Ina Levitt-Yanover
Hamilton, ON, Canada
newsletterjgsh@cogeco.ca
www.jgsh.org newsletter@jgsh.org


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica JGS - Hamilton (Ontario, Canada) & Area - Wed, Feb 15th Meeting #southafrica

Ina Levitt-Yanover <inaly@...>
 

Hassidic Rabbinic Dynasties
Offered by
Jewish Genealogical Society- Hamilton & Area
Wednesday, February 15, 2006
7:30 PM to 10:00 PM
Location: Temple Anshe Sholom
215 Cline Avenue North, Hamilton, ON

We are pleased to welcome Dr. Louis Greenspan who will speak about Hassidic
Rabbinic Dynasties. The Hassidic movement was originated in Eastern Europe
by Rabbi Israel ben Eleizer (1700-1760), also known as the Ba'al Shem Tov.
It eventually became the way of life of the majority of Jews in Ukraine,
Galicia, and central Poland; the movement also had sizable groups of
followers in Belarus-Lithuania and Hungary. In a few generations it had
developed into a network of dynasties each centred around a particular
Tzaddik or Rebbe, each of them vying for supremacy. Dr. Greenspan will show
us how these various dynastic battles related to family life at a time when
the Jewish world was in continuous upheaval.

This promises to be a fascinating presentation..

The Jewish Genealogical Society - Hamilton & Area (JGS - H&A) is a
non-profit organization that is run by members for members. Membership in
JGS - H&A is open to all regardless of religious affiliation or level of
experience. We have members who are just beginning their journeys as well as
some who are published genealogists. Admission for non - members is $5 which
will be applied when joining in the same membership year.

Ina Levitt-Yanover
Hamilton, ON, Canada
newsletterjgsh@cogeco.ca
www.jgsh.org newsletter@jgsh.org


Re: SZANY, HUNGARY #hungary

Peter <thidas@...>
 

Sz=E1ny. Hungarian village, Sopron County.

Peter

----------------

On 10-Feb-06, at 8:02 AM, Viviane Kluska wrote:

Hello Fellow Reserchers:
I have information that my paternal great-grandfather, Markus Stricker
was born in Szany Hungary. The birthday would have been around mid
1800, 1850 something. He had a child Yeno, in 1886 in
Fertoszentmiklos. He had a child Riza in 1882 in Fertoszentmiklos.
He had a child Robi in 1881 in Beled. I estimate he may have been
around 30 when Yeno was born.....If Markus Stricker was born in Szany
in the 1800 something.....where would his birth records be found?
Does anyone know anything about Szany. I never even heard of it =20
until now.
Viviane Weinberger Kluska
Canton, Michigan
you can email me directly at vivkluska@gmail.com or vivkluska@rock.com
I have troubles with both emails.

RESEARCHING:
STRICKER: Szany, Fertoszentmiklos, Beled, Sopron, Papa, Gyor
APFEL: Tet, also >from "Sopron-Gyor-Moson" area


* Judaica-Holocaust on sale #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,

The well known auction site is selling a birth certificate transcript of Paula Berger, daughter of Salamon Berger, >from Michalovce.

Search using the following keywords:
Jewish birth certificate Slovakia

On the same site you will find a rare book about the Slovakian Holocaust (in English and many photos).

Search using the following keywords:
Slovakia Jewry Yizkor

Regards
Tom

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Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: SZANY, HUNGARY #hungary

Peter <thidas@...>
 

Sz=E1ny. Hungarian village, Sopron County.

Peter

----------------

On 10-Feb-06, at 8:02 AM, Viviane Kluska wrote:

Hello Fellow Reserchers:
I have information that my paternal great-grandfather, Markus Stricker
was born in Szany Hungary. The birthday would have been around mid
1800, 1850 something. He had a child Yeno, in 1886 in
Fertoszentmiklos. He had a child Riza in 1882 in Fertoszentmiklos.
He had a child Robi in 1881 in Beled. I estimate he may have been
around 30 when Yeno was born.....If Markus Stricker was born in Szany
in the 1800 something.....where would his birth records be found?
Does anyone know anything about Szany. I never even heard of it =20
until now.
Viviane Weinberger Kluska
Canton, Michigan
you can email me directly at vivkluska@gmail.com or vivkluska@rock.com
I have troubles with both emails.

RESEARCHING:
STRICKER: Szany, Fertoszentmiklos, Beled, Sopron, Papa, Gyor
APFEL: Tet, also >from "Sopron-Gyor-Moson" area


Hungary SIG #Hungary * Judaica-Holocaust on sale #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,

The well known auction site is selling a birth certificate transcript of Paula Berger, daughter of Salamon Berger, >from Michalovce.

Search using the following keywords:
Jewish birth certificate Slovakia

On the same site you will find a rare book about the Slovakian Holocaust (in English and many photos).

Search using the following keywords:
Slovakia Jewry Yizkor

Regards
Tom

--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil