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Visiting Poland #poland

Batya Dashefsky <batya_d@...>
 

I will be visiting Poland in 9 months and am specifically trying to
find out what happened to my family who were living in Bialystok in
1941.

I have an address and I think a last name- Walicki, 27 Zamenhofa.
If anyone is familiar with the city and can point me in the right
direction I would appreciate it.

Thanks

Batya Dashefsky
Jerusalem

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BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Visiting Poland #poland

Batya Dashefsky <batya_d@...>
 

I will be visiting Poland in 9 months and am specifically trying to
find out what happened to my family who were living in Bialystok in
1941.

I have an address and I think a last name- Walicki, 27 Zamenhofa.
If anyone is familiar with the city and can point me in the right
direction I would appreciate it.

Thanks

Batya Dashefsky
Jerusalem

MODERATOR'S NOTE: While Discussion Group rules require that any
recommendation of guides, hotels, etc. must be sent privately,
other suggestions for research or travel to Bialystok may be
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Seek 1909 Reference Book on Jews from Posen #germany

Geoff Kaiser <geoff_kaiser@...>
 

Dear Researchers,
I have just recently been advised of a excellent book on the Jews of Posen.
See below.

"Aus Vergangenheit und Gegenwart der Juden und Jud. Gemeinden in den Posener
Landen" is the title of the book published in 1909 by Dr. A. Heppner and J.
Herzberg.

It has a chapter on each of about 100 Posen Jewish communities. 14 pages on
Ostrowo, 3 pages on Unruhstadt, etc. It's loaded with names and lists. You
might find it in a university or national library."

I have had difficulty locating this book. Is there some one out that has a
copy or access to one ?

Please respond privately and I can advise of more details. Many thanks.

Geoff Kaiser Melbourne Australia <geoff_kaiser@hotmail.com>


German SIG #Germany Seek 1909 Reference Book on Jews from Posen #germany

Geoff Kaiser <geoff_kaiser@...>
 

Dear Researchers,
I have just recently been advised of a excellent book on the Jews of Posen.
See below.

"Aus Vergangenheit und Gegenwart der Juden und Jud. Gemeinden in den Posener
Landen" is the title of the book published in 1909 by Dr. A. Heppner and J.
Herzberg.

It has a chapter on each of about 100 Posen Jewish communities. 14 pages on
Ostrowo, 3 pages on Unruhstadt, etc. It's loaded with names and lists. You
might find it in a university or national library."

I have had difficulty locating this book. Is there some one out that has a
copy or access to one ?

Please respond privately and I can advise of more details. Many thanks.

Geoff Kaiser Melbourne Australia <geoff_kaiser@hotmail.com>


Re: meaning of "Am Portal" in vital record #germany

Hermann, da Fonseca-Wollheim <Hermann.da.Fonseca-Wollheim@...>
 

Until the 19th century illegitimate babies were often laid down where the
mother hoped they would be found soon ("Findelkinder"). The best place was
at the door of a church. Some churches and cloisters had even a kind of a
big letterbox for that purpose ("Babyklappe").

I suppose that Jewish mothers would choose the door ("Portal") of a synagogue.

Hermann da Fonseca-Wollheim
Tervuren, Belgium <Hermann.da.Fonseca-Wollheim@telenet.be>


German SIG #Germany Re: meaning of "Am Portal" in vital record #germany

Hermann, da Fonseca-Wollheim <Hermann.da.Fonseca-Wollheim@...>
 

Until the 19th century illegitimate babies were often laid down where the
mother hoped they would be found soon ("Findelkinder"). The best place was
at the door of a church. Some churches and cloisters had even a kind of a
big letterbox for that purpose ("Babyklappe").

I suppose that Jewish mothers would choose the door ("Portal") of a synagogue.

Hermann da Fonseca-Wollheim
Tervuren, Belgium <Hermann.da.Fonseca-Wollheim@telenet.be>


Re: Obermayer Awards in Berlin #germany

Carol Baird <sbaird@...>
 

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Regarding Elizabeth's comments about the Obermayer German Jewish History
Awards in Berlin: Ditto!

I can add that I got to meet Elizabeth and other wonderful nominators and
the jury panel as well.

Attending the award ceremony alone was one of the highlights of my life,
especially to see my two nominees get their well-deserved recognition for their
amazing efforts, hearts and souls (Kurt-Willi Julius and Karl Heinz
Stadtler >from Hessen - go to http://www.synagoge-voehl.de/).

But the weekend after the awards, spending time with both their families
back in my grandmother's hometown of Voehl, Kreis Frankenberg, Hessen, made the
trip even more special because we lived with them, ate and drank with them
and their non-profit foundation members, and then met another German gem whom
I will be soon nominating for the Obermayer Award.

These people not only are keeping our families' memories alive, they are
finding their children and grandchildren and trying to restore community
relationships their own ancestors had with our Jewish ancestors. They
are also doing our genealogy research for us by finding these family
members in their towns' histories, and recording and memorializing their
fates during the Shoah! More about my personal journey will be
forthcoming, but I echo Elizabeths' sentiments:

"I hope that this coming August you will take the time to honor those Germans
who have helped you or have had an impact on the communities of your ancestors
and send in a nomination." [MOD NOTE: GerSIG is co-sponsor of these awards.]

Carol Davidson Baird Solana Beach, CA USA

Researching FRANKENTHAL, LOEWENSTERN, MOSES, MILDENBERG, PLAUT

from Voehl, Korbach, Altenlotheim and Frankenau in Kreis Frankenberg, Hessen


German SIG #Germany Re: Obermayer Awards in Berlin #germany

Carol Baird <sbaird@...>
 

MOD NOTE: When you write to the Forum in response
to a message posted here earlier please begin your
subject line with "Re:________ " (subject of earlier message )


Regarding Elizabeth's comments about the Obermayer German Jewish History
Awards in Berlin: Ditto!

I can add that I got to meet Elizabeth and other wonderful nominators and
the jury panel as well.

Attending the award ceremony alone was one of the highlights of my life,
especially to see my two nominees get their well-deserved recognition for their
amazing efforts, hearts and souls (Kurt-Willi Julius and Karl Heinz
Stadtler >from Hessen - go to http://www.synagoge-voehl.de/).

But the weekend after the awards, spending time with both their families
back in my grandmother's hometown of Voehl, Kreis Frankenberg, Hessen, made the
trip even more special because we lived with them, ate and drank with them
and their non-profit foundation members, and then met another German gem whom
I will be soon nominating for the Obermayer Award.

These people not only are keeping our families' memories alive, they are
finding their children and grandchildren and trying to restore community
relationships their own ancestors had with our Jewish ancestors. They
are also doing our genealogy research for us by finding these family
members in their towns' histories, and recording and memorializing their
fates during the Shoah! More about my personal journey will be
forthcoming, but I echo Elizabeths' sentiments:

"I hope that this coming August you will take the time to honor those Germans
who have helped you or have had an impact on the communities of your ancestors
and send in a nomination." [MOD NOTE: GerSIG is co-sponsor of these awards.]

Carol Davidson Baird Solana Beach, CA USA

Researching FRANKENTHAL, LOEWENSTERN, MOSES, MILDENBERG, PLAUT

from Voehl, Korbach, Altenlotheim and Frankenau in Kreis Frankenberg, Hessen


Re: Russian Phonetics #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

At 3:38 PM +0000 2/3/06, Aubrey Jacobus wrote:
It is classic genealogy trap -when is a slight spelling difference
significant and when is it mere coincidence -
with transliteration >from Cyrillic to Latin script often via Yiddish always
written without vowels an always present nightmare .
We have a case in point for years we suspected the Litvak families KLOSS and
KLASS were the same but had no proof. Very recently we were able to compare
two ship manifests one was a US 1905 immigrant Nachamia KLAS who fitted the
profile of Nick KLASS in Chicago perfectly now we find a US 1905 immigrant
Nechamia KLOSS who surely is Nick KLASS in Chicago , confirmed by the
destination address.
Can a Russian liguist comment on how such a confusion arose.
BTW KLOSS is a relatively common German name and KLASS is rare other than in
the USA.
Dear Aubrey,

I think the answer may be as follows: You are probably familiar
enough with the American accent to know that a name spelled KLOSS
would in most parts of USA be pronounced KLUSS (rhyming with fuss,
but with a longer-drawn-out vowel). And it would not take too long
before American Jews (especially if literate mainly in Yiddish and
not English) would start spelling the name KLASS instead of KLOSS.
This happens all the time on this side of the pond. So that's my
best guess on how the confusion arose.

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Russian Phonetics #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

At 3:38 PM +0000 2/3/06, Aubrey Jacobus wrote:
It is classic genealogy trap -when is a slight spelling difference
significant and when is it mere coincidence -
with transliteration >from Cyrillic to Latin script often via Yiddish always
written without vowels an always present nightmare .
We have a case in point for years we suspected the Litvak families KLOSS and
KLASS were the same but had no proof. Very recently we were able to compare
two ship manifests one was a US 1905 immigrant Nachamia KLAS who fitted the
profile of Nick KLASS in Chicago perfectly now we find a US 1905 immigrant
Nechamia KLOSS who surely is Nick KLASS in Chicago , confirmed by the
destination address.
Can a Russian liguist comment on how such a confusion arose.
BTW KLOSS is a relatively common German name and KLASS is rare other than in
the USA.
Dear Aubrey,

I think the answer may be as follows: You are probably familiar
enough with the American accent to know that a name spelled KLOSS
would in most parts of USA be pronounced KLUSS (rhyming with fuss,
but with a longer-drawn-out vowel). And it would not take too long
before American Jews (especially if literate mainly in Yiddish and
not English) would start spelling the name KLASS instead of KLOSS.
This happens all the time on this side of the pond. So that's my
best guess on how the confusion arose.

Judith Romney Wegner


Help with translation of Yiddish. #general

bud484bg@...
 

Hello Researchers:

I need someone to translate the Yiddish handwritten message on the back
of a photo sent >from Lodz Poland in the early 1900s.

Please contact me privately.

Beatrice Markel
Redondo Beach, California


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help with translation of Yiddish. #general

bud484bg@...
 

Hello Researchers:

I need someone to translate the Yiddish handwritten message on the back
of a photo sent >from Lodz Poland in the early 1900s.

Please contact me privately.

Beatrice Markel
Redondo Beach, California


Sofia, Bulgaria 1947 telephone directory #general

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

A 1947 telephone directory for Sofia, Bulgaria is online at
http://www.loc.gov/rr/european/phonebu/budigdir.html.

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sofia, Bulgaria 1947 telephone directory #general

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

A 1947 telephone directory for Sofia, Bulgaria is online at
http://www.loc.gov/rr/european/phonebu/budigdir.html.

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


Open sources - clarification #romania

Sorin Goldenberg <SorinG@...>
 

I do not have the articles/books. I have just looked at them.
You can try to find in some university libraries.
Or you can try HaSefer publishing house of the jewish community in
Romania for STUDIA ET ACTA HISTORIAE.

Sorin Goldenberg,
Israel


Romania SIG #Romania Open sources - clarification #romania

Sorin Goldenberg <SorinG@...>
 

I do not have the articles/books. I have just looked at them.
You can try to find in some university libraries.
Or you can try HaSefer publishing house of the jewish community in
Romania for STUDIA ET ACTA HISTORIAE.

Sorin Goldenberg,
Israel


S.E. LONDON SYNAGOGUE #unitedkingdom

Derek & Rosemary Wenzerul <dandr@...>
 

Please can anyone help?

I am trying to find out for a colleague where he might find photographs of
the S.E. London Synagogue's first building in Lausanne Road in New Cross,
Peckham
between 1889-1902. In Peter Renton's book, the Lost Synagogues of London
there is a photo of the Synagogue, but in the text he describes an 'Iron
Hut' (which in those days was a type of Portakabin which many congregations
started off in) and this is what he would like to see. I too have an
interest in this
Synagogue as my Great Uncle, Rev. Nehemiah Goldston was the Minister there
in 1889.

He has gone down the following lines: I have a permit >from United Synagogue
to inspect files of Chief Rabbi's Office
and United Synagogue lodged at London Metropolitan Archives in Clerkenwell.
These files are closed to general inspection and require written consent.
Sadly very little there New Cross.

Have contacted Hartley Library, Univ of Southampton, nothing doing, also
been to University of London. Been to so many places and written to so many
people.

The library you mentioned is a small branch library in converted shops -
have been to LB Lewisham Local Studies Lib - useful for some things, they
had the brochure, although
didn't know a synagogue had existed in Lausanne Road. Have also been to LB
Southwark Local Studies, also didn't know synagogue existed. (Lausanne Road
- west
in Southwark, east in Lewisham).

I have also suggested that perhaps the plans of the Synagogue might still be
with the local Town Hall unless they don't keep them or they were destroyed
during the War.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

All the best
Rosemary Wenzerul
dandr@wenzeds.freeserve.co.uk
RESEARCHING: BARNETT, BENJAMIN, DEFRIES, GOLDSTON, MOLEN/VANDERMOLEN, MYERS,
NUNES-MARTINES/MARTIN AND WENZERUL


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom S.E. LONDON SYNAGOGUE #unitedkingdom

Derek & Rosemary Wenzerul <dandr@...>
 

Please can anyone help?

I am trying to find out for a colleague where he might find photographs of
the S.E. London Synagogue's first building in Lausanne Road in New Cross,
Peckham
between 1889-1902. In Peter Renton's book, the Lost Synagogues of London
there is a photo of the Synagogue, but in the text he describes an 'Iron
Hut' (which in those days was a type of Portakabin which many congregations
started off in) and this is what he would like to see. I too have an
interest in this
Synagogue as my Great Uncle, Rev. Nehemiah Goldston was the Minister there
in 1889.

He has gone down the following lines: I have a permit >from United Synagogue
to inspect files of Chief Rabbi's Office
and United Synagogue lodged at London Metropolitan Archives in Clerkenwell.
These files are closed to general inspection and require written consent.
Sadly very little there New Cross.

Have contacted Hartley Library, Univ of Southampton, nothing doing, also
been to University of London. Been to so many places and written to so many
people.

The library you mentioned is a small branch library in converted shops -
have been to LB Lewisham Local Studies Lib - useful for some things, they
had the brochure, although
didn't know a synagogue had existed in Lausanne Road. Have also been to LB
Southwark Local Studies, also didn't know synagogue existed. (Lausanne Road
- west
in Southwark, east in Lewisham).

I have also suggested that perhaps the plans of the Synagogue might still be
with the local Town Hall unless they don't keep them or they were destroyed
during the War.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

All the best
Rosemary Wenzerul
dandr@wenzeds.freeserve.co.uk
RESEARCHING: BARNETT, BENJAMIN, DEFRIES, GOLDSTON, MOLEN/VANDERMOLEN, MYERS,
NUNES-MARTINES/MARTIN AND WENZERUL


more about Max WOLK #belarus

jonathanridgeway@...
 

I recently wrote about my grandpa, Max WOLK, born about 15 March 1888,
in Minsk or Minsk Gubernia. He came to America around 1910 to 1913,
married Frieda SCHARF of Suchostaw, Galicia 28 March 1914, in Brooklyn,
NY and was active in Workmen's Circle, Minsker Branch 507 in Brooklyn
>from 1913 to 1970. I believe he had a sister who also came to America
and that their parents were Jacob WOLK and Feige KATZ who never left
Europe.

According to family history, Max defected >from the Czar's army along
with 2 other comrades and one of them was killed during their escape
attempt. Max's father, Jacob WOLK (or any such name variation), was
said to be an orthodox rabbi, possibly Hasidic and possibly simply a
student or scholar. I have found no record about Max WOLK in the Ellis
Island records and no record of Jacob WOLK or Feige KATZ anywhere.

I will be most grateful if anyone who knows anything about any of these
people will please contact me privately at jonathanridgeway@aol.com. I
would be particularly interested about any Workmen's Circle contacts or
Belarus background. Thank you.

Yours in peace, Jonathan RIDGEWAY of Clintondale, NY (in the Hudson
River Valley)

Searching
HELLER, SCHARF and SCHNEIER of Suchostaw and Jazlowiec, Galicia
and WOLK and KATZ of Minsk or Minsk Gubernia


Belarus SIG #Belarus more about Max WOLK #belarus

jonathanridgeway@...
 

I recently wrote about my grandpa, Max WOLK, born about 15 March 1888,
in Minsk or Minsk Gubernia. He came to America around 1910 to 1913,
married Frieda SCHARF of Suchostaw, Galicia 28 March 1914, in Brooklyn,
NY and was active in Workmen's Circle, Minsker Branch 507 in Brooklyn
>from 1913 to 1970. I believe he had a sister who also came to America
and that their parents were Jacob WOLK and Feige KATZ who never left
Europe.

According to family history, Max defected >from the Czar's army along
with 2 other comrades and one of them was killed during their escape
attempt. Max's father, Jacob WOLK (or any such name variation), was
said to be an orthodox rabbi, possibly Hasidic and possibly simply a
student or scholar. I have found no record about Max WOLK in the Ellis
Island records and no record of Jacob WOLK or Feige KATZ anywhere.

I will be most grateful if anyone who knows anything about any of these
people will please contact me privately at jonathanridgeway@aol.com. I
would be particularly interested about any Workmen's Circle contacts or
Belarus background. Thank you.

Yours in peace, Jonathan RIDGEWAY of Clintondale, NY (in the Hudson
River Valley)

Searching
HELLER, SCHARF and SCHNEIER of Suchostaw and Jazlowiec, Galicia
and WOLK and KATZ of Minsk or Minsk Gubernia