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Re: Privacy on the internet #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

With the mapping programs available today, anyone with your address can type
it in and get a map that points to your location. (Google merely automated
that process for the convenience of your friends.) Anyone who has your
phone number can enter it in a reverse directory (several are on-line) hand
have a good chance of finding your address.

And *anyone* who puts their name on a web site or in an email sent to a
mailing list will find that a search engine will list them. Messages on
lists are archived and available, like web sites, for the programs that
harvest and index information for inclusion in the search engines. That is
how, and part of why, search engines are such useful things.

If you don't like this, you had best, move to a different address, get a new
phone number, and stay off the internet in all its forms.

Should you be concerned? If you lived in a small town even 50 years ago,
the others in the town would know more about you than has been revealed by
the above described sources. Would you have been concerned?

The major concern these days is identity theft. For that you want to
control your social security number and perhaps your date of birth and
signature. Your phone number is likely of little value in that regard.
These thieves work at long distance and are, in my opinion, unlikely to want
to visit your home.


--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

"Dorothy Harper" < dorothyharper17@... > wrote in message
news:BAY103-F388EC6600532270C966EA6A6690@......

I have been reading through my Jewishgen digests and noticed some people
concerned about privacy with our families on the internet.

I have Family Tree Maker, with a Home Page and I am just beginning to putmy
"book" on my home page.

I went to google. com and typed in: " Kaplan Dorothy"

The second article was me: (apparently there are other famous Dorothy
Kaplans, not me)

"Kaplan Family Genealogy ForumEzra Kaplan & Fanny Cohen, Russia to Conn. to
Canada - Dorothy Kaplan/Hochberg/Harper 11/02/02. Re: Ezra Kaplan & Fanny
Cohen, Russia to Conn. to Canada ...
genforum.genealogy.com/kaplan/ - 26k - Cached - Similar pages "

I then clicked and got several other Kaplan researchers.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kaplan+Dorothy&btnG=Google+Search

I don't know why, but this disturbs me. Obviously my family hasn't been
harrased since I started my genealogy, I am wondering what others think of
this. I have a feeling that if I typed in all my family names I would come
up with my Family Tree.

I remember that years ago I notified Google to delete my home phone number,
when clicked on it gave not only my address but a map on how to get to my
house.

We are all on the internet. This is a fact of life. Should we be
concerned?

Dorothy Kaplan Hochberg (Harper)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Privacy on the internet #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

With the mapping programs available today, anyone with your address can type
it in and get a map that points to your location. (Google merely automated
that process for the convenience of your friends.) Anyone who has your
phone number can enter it in a reverse directory (several are on-line) hand
have a good chance of finding your address.

And *anyone* who puts their name on a web site or in an email sent to a
mailing list will find that a search engine will list them. Messages on
lists are archived and available, like web sites, for the programs that
harvest and index information for inclusion in the search engines. That is
how, and part of why, search engines are such useful things.

If you don't like this, you had best, move to a different address, get a new
phone number, and stay off the internet in all its forms.

Should you be concerned? If you lived in a small town even 50 years ago,
the others in the town would know more about you than has been revealed by
the above described sources. Would you have been concerned?

The major concern these days is identity theft. For that you want to
control your social security number and perhaps your date of birth and
signature. Your phone number is likely of little value in that regard.
These thieves work at long distance and are, in my opinion, unlikely to want
to visit your home.


--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

"Dorothy Harper" < dorothyharper17@... > wrote in message
news:BAY103-F388EC6600532270C966EA6A6690@......

I have been reading through my Jewishgen digests and noticed some people
concerned about privacy with our families on the internet.

I have Family Tree Maker, with a Home Page and I am just beginning to putmy
"book" on my home page.

I went to google. com and typed in: " Kaplan Dorothy"

The second article was me: (apparently there are other famous Dorothy
Kaplans, not me)

"Kaplan Family Genealogy ForumEzra Kaplan & Fanny Cohen, Russia to Conn. to
Canada - Dorothy Kaplan/Hochberg/Harper 11/02/02. Re: Ezra Kaplan & Fanny
Cohen, Russia to Conn. to Canada ...
genforum.genealogy.com/kaplan/ - 26k - Cached - Similar pages "

I then clicked and got several other Kaplan researchers.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kaplan+Dorothy&btnG=Google+Search

I don't know why, but this disturbs me. Obviously my family hasn't been
harrased since I started my genealogy, I am wondering what others think of
this. I have a feeling that if I typed in all my family names I would come
up with my Family Tree.

I remember that years ago I notified Google to delete my home phone number,
when clicked on it gave not only my address but a map on how to get to my
house.

We are all on the internet. This is a fact of life. Should we be
concerned?

Dorothy Kaplan Hochberg (Harper)
MODERATOR NOTE: Current messages to the JGDG are not archived by
http://groups.google.com/


Holocaust Exhibition at National Czech & Slovak Museum #austria-czech

Lisa Feder <lfeder@...>
 

List members may be interested in the following exhibit at the National
Czech and Slovak Museum and Library, in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. It may be
possible to bring the exhibit to other cities, for more information,
contact the curator, Edie Blanchard. The museum is also currently
exhibiting a selection of my photographs "Silent Stones: Jewish Cemeteries
in Bohemia and Moravia".

Lisa Feder
Chicago Area, Illinois


The Tragedy of Slovak Jews

Powerful Holocaust Exhibition Comes to National Czech & Slovak Museum
Previously Seen at the Auschwitz – Birkenau State Museum in Auschwitz, Poland.

CEDAR RAPIDS, IA – The National Czech & Slovak Museum & Library, in
collaboration with the Museum of the Slovak National Uprising in Banska
Bystrica, Slovakia, will open the exhibition, The Tragedy of Slovak Jews,
on Friday, November 4, 2005. This powerful exhibit addresses the tragic
demise of the Jewish communities in Slovakia, a little known story of the
Holocaust. This marks the first time an exhibition will address this topic
in the United States.

Jews were an important part of Slovak culture in 1939 when Hitler’s army
entered and occupied all of Czechoslovakia. The country became a divided
nation - The Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia (controlled solely by
the Nazis) and Slovakia (an "independent" Nazi-afiliated state). Over
the next six years, Slovakia deported nearly 60,000 Slovak Jews to
concentration camps, where most of them were murdered as part of Hitler’s
"Final Solution." In total, 80 percent of Slovak Jews were lost during
the Holocaust.

The Tragedy of Slovak Jews is the first exhibition in the U.S. to focus
entirely on the fate of Slovak Jews during World War II. The exhibition
focuses on the key milestones of the Slovak story including the acceptance
in 1941 of the Jewish Codex, a series of laws and regulations that stripped
Slovakia's Jews of their civil rights and means of economic survival. The
exhibit chronicles the first wave of deportations (March-October 1942),
the origin and activity of working and prison camps, the second wave of
deportations in 1944, the resistance movement, participation in the Slovak
National Uprising, and the reprisals of the Nazis in 1944 – 1945.

The Tragedy of Slovak Jews has been on display since 2002 at the
Auschwitz – Birkenau State Museum in Auschwitz, Poland. The National Czech
& Slovak Museum & Library is partnering with the Museum of the Slovak
National Uprising in Banská Bystrica, Slovakia, which originally researched
and prepared it. The exhibition closes Feb. 26, 2006.

The National Czech & Slovak Museum & Library is the leading United States
institution collecting, exhibiting, preserving, and interpreting Czech and
Slovak history and culture. The National Czech & Slovak Museum & Library
is located at 30 16th Avenue SW, Cedar Rapids, IA. Gallery hours are Tuesday
through Saturday, 9:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., Sunday, noon to 4:00 p.m. For
additional information, please call (319) 362-8500 or visit the museum’s
web site, www.NCSML.org.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Holocaust Exhibition at National Czech & Slovak Museum #austria-czech

Lisa Feder <lfeder@...>
 

List members may be interested in the following exhibit at the National
Czech and Slovak Museum and Library, in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. It may be
possible to bring the exhibit to other cities, for more information,
contact the curator, Edie Blanchard. The museum is also currently
exhibiting a selection of my photographs "Silent Stones: Jewish Cemeteries
in Bohemia and Moravia".

Lisa Feder
Chicago Area, Illinois


The Tragedy of Slovak Jews

Powerful Holocaust Exhibition Comes to National Czech & Slovak Museum
Previously Seen at the Auschwitz – Birkenau State Museum in Auschwitz, Poland.

CEDAR RAPIDS, IA – The National Czech & Slovak Museum & Library, in
collaboration with the Museum of the Slovak National Uprising in Banska
Bystrica, Slovakia, will open the exhibition, The Tragedy of Slovak Jews,
on Friday, November 4, 2005. This powerful exhibit addresses the tragic
demise of the Jewish communities in Slovakia, a little known story of the
Holocaust. This marks the first time an exhibition will address this topic
in the United States.

Jews were an important part of Slovak culture in 1939 when Hitler’s army
entered and occupied all of Czechoslovakia. The country became a divided
nation - The Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia (controlled solely by
the Nazis) and Slovakia (an "independent" Nazi-afiliated state). Over
the next six years, Slovakia deported nearly 60,000 Slovak Jews to
concentration camps, where most of them were murdered as part of Hitler’s
"Final Solution." In total, 80 percent of Slovak Jews were lost during
the Holocaust.

The Tragedy of Slovak Jews is the first exhibition in the U.S. to focus
entirely on the fate of Slovak Jews during World War II. The exhibition
focuses on the key milestones of the Slovak story including the acceptance
in 1941 of the Jewish Codex, a series of laws and regulations that stripped
Slovakia's Jews of their civil rights and means of economic survival. The
exhibit chronicles the first wave of deportations (March-October 1942),
the origin and activity of working and prison camps, the second wave of
deportations in 1944, the resistance movement, participation in the Slovak
National Uprising, and the reprisals of the Nazis in 1944 – 1945.

The Tragedy of Slovak Jews has been on display since 2002 at the
Auschwitz – Birkenau State Museum in Auschwitz, Poland. The National Czech
& Slovak Museum & Library is partnering with the Museum of the Slovak
National Uprising in Banská Bystrica, Slovakia, which originally researched
and prepared it. The exhibition closes Feb. 26, 2006.

The National Czech & Slovak Museum & Library is the leading United States
institution collecting, exhibiting, preserving, and interpreting Czech and
Slovak history and culture. The National Czech & Slovak Museum & Library
is located at 30 16th Avenue SW, Cedar Rapids, IA. Gallery hours are Tuesday
through Saturday, 9:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., Sunday, noon to 4:00 p.m. For
additional information, please call (319) 362-8500 or visit the museum’s
web site, www.NCSML.org.


Re: Working backwards from certificate of naturalization (voter registration) #general

Debra Price <dsprice@...>
 

Would appreciate knowing how voter registration information is available.
Debra Price
Plainview, NY

Dear Cousins,
I thought it might be helpful to mention that I found out what court my
grandfather was naturalized in and when by finding a voter registration
for him. Aliens had to give that information in order to register.
Ruth Hyman
Rockville Centre, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Working backwards from certificate of naturalization (voter registration) #general

Debra Price <dsprice@...>
 

Would appreciate knowing how voter registration information is available.
Debra Price
Plainview, NY

Dear Cousins,
I thought it might be helpful to mention that I found out what court my
grandfather was naturalized in and when by finding a voter registration
for him. Aliens had to give that information in order to register.
Ruth Hyman
Rockville Centre, NY


Seeking EHRENSTEIN/Kfar Vradim #general

Vivian Kahn
 

Several weeks ago, I sent a letter to Mrs. Chaya EHRENSTEIN of Kfar
Vradim, Israel, who submitted a Page of Testimony in 1990 for her
mother, Hermina Moskovitz Handelsmann >from Spissky Hrusov,
Czechoslovakia.=A0The POT indicated that her maternal grandfather was
Emil Moskovits. I wrote to her because, based on the places and dates,
it is possible that her grandfather Emil MOSKOVITS, may have been an
older brother of my paternal grandmother Hermina MOSKOVITS NEUMANN. My
great-uncle Emil MOSKOVITS was born in November 1867 in Szobrancz,
Hungary. Szobrancz, which became Sobrance, Czechoslovakia during the
war and is now in Slovakia, is about half-way between Michalovce and
Uzhorod, Ukraine (formerly Ungvar).

If Chaya Ehrenstein's grandfather was my great-uncle Emil, her mother
Hermina and my father Elemer were first cousins and Chaya and I are
second cousins. My grandmother Hermina and her brother Moricz were the
only ones of at least nine children who came to the US so it is
important for me to know if Chaya is indeed part of my extended family.

To date, I have been unable to find any trace of Emil or the fate of
his family. This is the first possible lead.

I wrote my letter in English and don't know if Mrs. Ehrenstein can read
that language or has someone who can help with translation. If you
live in or near Kraf Vradim and are willing to try and contact Mrs.
Ehrenstein on my behalf, please contact me off-list and I will give you
her address. I believe that she is still listed in the phone
directory.

Thanks in advance to anyone who is willing to help,

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA

Researching families >from present-day Slovakia including:
GRUNVALD/Bratislava, Michalovce, Humenne, Slov.; KOHN/Ung megye, Hung.
LEFKOVITS/Zemplen or Ung megye?; MARKUS/Sepsiszentgyorgy, Hung. (Sfante Gheorghu,
Rom); MOSKOVITS/MOSKOWITZ/MOSS, Ostrov (Kisozstro), Sobrance, Bunkocz, Kosice
(Kassa),Ungvar, Michalovce, Presov, NYC, Cleveland; NEUMANN/Sobrance, Michalovce,
Kosice (Kassa), Sabinov (Kis-Szeben), Vranov (Varanno), Kriszti (Kereszt), Slov.
POLACSEK/Sobrance; ROZENBERG/Sobrance


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking EHRENSTEIN/Kfar Vradim #general

Vivian Kahn
 

Several weeks ago, I sent a letter to Mrs. Chaya EHRENSTEIN of Kfar
Vradim, Israel, who submitted a Page of Testimony in 1990 for her
mother, Hermina Moskovitz Handelsmann >from Spissky Hrusov,
Czechoslovakia.=A0The POT indicated that her maternal grandfather was
Emil Moskovits. I wrote to her because, based on the places and dates,
it is possible that her grandfather Emil MOSKOVITS, may have been an
older brother of my paternal grandmother Hermina MOSKOVITS NEUMANN. My
great-uncle Emil MOSKOVITS was born in November 1867 in Szobrancz,
Hungary. Szobrancz, which became Sobrance, Czechoslovakia during the
war and is now in Slovakia, is about half-way between Michalovce and
Uzhorod, Ukraine (formerly Ungvar).

If Chaya Ehrenstein's grandfather was my great-uncle Emil, her mother
Hermina and my father Elemer were first cousins and Chaya and I are
second cousins. My grandmother Hermina and her brother Moricz were the
only ones of at least nine children who came to the US so it is
important for me to know if Chaya is indeed part of my extended family.

To date, I have been unable to find any trace of Emil or the fate of
his family. This is the first possible lead.

I wrote my letter in English and don't know if Mrs. Ehrenstein can read
that language or has someone who can help with translation. If you
live in or near Kraf Vradim and are willing to try and contact Mrs.
Ehrenstein on my behalf, please contact me off-list and I will give you
her address. I believe that she is still listed in the phone
directory.

Thanks in advance to anyone who is willing to help,

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA

Researching families >from present-day Slovakia including:
GRUNVALD/Bratislava, Michalovce, Humenne, Slov.; KOHN/Ung megye, Hung.
LEFKOVITS/Zemplen or Ung megye?; MARKUS/Sepsiszentgyorgy, Hung. (Sfante Gheorghu,
Rom); MOSKOVITS/MOSKOWITZ/MOSS, Ostrov (Kisozstro), Sobrance, Bunkocz, Kosice
(Kassa),Ungvar, Michalovce, Presov, NYC, Cleveland; NEUMANN/Sobrance, Michalovce,
Kosice (Kassa), Sabinov (Kis-Szeben), Vranov (Varanno), Kriszti (Kereszt), Slov.
POLACSEK/Sobrance; ROZENBERG/Sobrance


BARON and HIRSHEOWITZ #romania

malcolm katz <malkikatz9361@...>
 

Hello all
Im looking for info on Lewis/louis(Lejb)BARON from
roumania,he's hebrew name was Lieb ben Israel,he was
born approx 1871,he married Annie HIRSHEOWITZ over
there,they had 3 children Ada 1900/01 at sea,Morris
1903 london,Hettie 1902 london,she married William
Levy 1925 and moved to Australia,they had
Julius(Jack),Ronald 1932,Helen 1926,all born in
london.

many thanks
Malcolm Katz
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Romania SIG #Romania BARON and HIRSHEOWITZ #romania

malcolm katz <malkikatz9361@...>
 

Hello all
Im looking for info on Lewis/louis(Lejb)BARON from
roumania,he's hebrew name was Lieb ben Israel,he was
born approx 1871,he married Annie HIRSHEOWITZ over
there,they had 3 children Ada 1900/01 at sea,Morris
1903 london,Hettie 1902 london,she married William
Levy 1925 and moved to Australia,they had
Julius(Jack),Ronald 1932,Helen 1926,all born in
london.

many thanks
Malcolm Katz
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SHIPS FROM ROUMANIA #romania

malcolm katz <malkikatz9361@...>
 

Hello all
As an add on to previous posting the Hamburg shipping
lists are online at www.linktoyourroots.hamburg.de
also of use is The poor jews temporary shelter
database here at jewishgen,it holds a lot of records
of people passing through to the US,the records run
from 1896-1914.
Malcolm Katz


Romania SIG #Romania SHIPS FROM ROUMANIA #romania

malcolm katz <malkikatz9361@...>
 

Hello all
As an add on to previous posting the Hamburg shipping
lists are online at www.linktoyourroots.hamburg.de
also of use is The poor jews temporary shelter
database here at jewishgen,it holds a lot of records
of people passing through to the US,the records run
from 1896-1914.
Malcolm Katz


ships from roumania #romania

malcolm katz <malkikatz9361@...>
 

Hello to everyone
Ive been overwhelmed by the response to the original
enquiry about ships leaving Roumania,The query came
about by my bubba telling me she was born at sea,which
made a channel hop unlikley.Of the many reply's heres
what i know.The vast majority went overland by train
to austria/germany >from there across to
Hamburg,Bremen,Antwerp,Cherbourg,Le Havre,and then
onto London,liverpool,Hull or Grimsby.
The intresting routes are by ship >from Port Constanta
and Turkish ports across the med via Gibralter out
across the Atlantic to the French ports,Southampton or
the US.So maybe bubba wasnt making it up?

Many thanks for the replies
Malcolm Katz
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Romania SIG #Romania ships from roumania #romania

malcolm katz <malkikatz9361@...>
 

Hello to everyone
Ive been overwhelmed by the response to the original
enquiry about ships leaving Roumania,The query came
about by my bubba telling me she was born at sea,which
made a channel hop unlikley.Of the many reply's heres
what i know.The vast majority went overland by train
to austria/germany >from there across to
Hamburg,Bremen,Antwerp,Cherbourg,Le Havre,and then
onto London,liverpool,Hull or Grimsby.
The intresting routes are by ship >from Port Constanta
and Turkish ports across the med via Gibralter out
across the Atlantic to the French ports,Southampton or
the US.So maybe bubba wasnt making it up?

Many thanks for the replies
Malcolm Katz
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Re: early 20th c. birth records, Berlin #germany

Irene Newhouse <einew@...>
 

According to current German law, only direct descendants or the person in
question have a legal right to vital records less than 100 [or perhaps 110]
years old. The other possible access is if they are needed for a legal case.
It doesn't make genealogy very easy.

Irene Newhouse Kihei HI <einew@...>


German SIG #Germany RE: early 20th c. birth records, Berlin #germany

Irene Newhouse <einew@...>
 

According to current German law, only direct descendants or the person in
question have a legal right to vital records less than 100 [or perhaps 110]
years old. The other possible access is if they are needed for a legal case.
It doesn't make genealogy very easy.

Irene Newhouse Kihei HI <einew@...>


DUBOWY/DEMBOWSKI #ukraine

suehillman <suehillman@...>
 

I am looking for a Dobowy/Dembowski connection. It would seem that
the family name was changed to DEMBOWSKI on arrival in UK. They came
from a town called Manajow in what is now Ukraine. My grandmother
was called Sarah, her brother Simon/Schloyma and their father
Jankiel/Jacob who was married to a woman called Rivke KLEINSTEIN.

Sue Hillman
Glasgow Scotland

Searching : ZOLKWER, DEMBOWSKI, DUBOWY, KLEINSTEIN, KLONOFSTEIN,
KINDLER


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine DUBOWY/DEMBOWSKI #ukraine

suehillman <suehillman@...>
 

I am looking for a Dobowy/Dembowski connection. It would seem that
the family name was changed to DEMBOWSKI on arrival in UK. They came
from a town called Manajow in what is now Ukraine. My grandmother
was called Sarah, her brother Simon/Schloyma and their father
Jankiel/Jacob who was married to a woman called Rivke KLEINSTEIN.

Sue Hillman
Glasgow Scotland

Searching : ZOLKWER, DEMBOWSKI, DUBOWY, KLEINSTEIN, KLONOFSTEIN,
KINDLER


Independent Stanislauer Lodge #ukraine

Joyce Field
 

Regarding Independent Stanislauer Lodge #459 IOBA (Section A, Gate
109). 260 burial records >from this landsmanschaft plot are indexed
in JOWBR, JewishGen Online WorldWide Burial Registry. The cemetery
identification is USA-00482.

Search the database at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery/.
A complete list of all the cemeteries in the searchable database is
available at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/tree/CemList.htm.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition
jfield@...


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Independent Stanislauer Lodge #ukraine

Joyce Field
 

Regarding Independent Stanislauer Lodge #459 IOBA (Section A, Gate
109). 260 burial records >from this landsmanschaft plot are indexed
in JOWBR, JewishGen Online WorldWide Burial Registry. The cemetery
identification is USA-00482.

Search the database at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery/.
A complete list of all the cemeteries in the searchable database is
available at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/tree/CemList.htm.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition
jfield@...