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Hofer, etc. #austria-czech

peter bakos <pgbakos@...>
 

May I respectfully suggest to the correspondent that she visit her local
genealogy society and find some help in organizing her research? Perhaps
learning about SOSA and being able to identify which of several individuals
with the same name is which, would make it easier to answer questions. (And
probably to clarify her own understanding of what she has discovered).

I would also respectfully suggest, Internet experience to the contrary
notwithstanding, that she be absolutely certain when using Internet
generated information to identify sources so as to be able to independantly
confirm her research.

Peter Bakos
Budapest


Re: Same names for mother and daughter #lithuania

Yehudh bn Shlmo
 

Dear fellow members,

I have not followed this entire thread but if it has
not been said, we can't excuse Shinuy Shaim (being
renamed), and this is assuming her blessed mother had
already passed on. And, unless the Halacha forbids
using the name of a departed mother. If so please
comment. But then even, if the rename is >from a former
relative, assuming the mother has departed, it could
be permissible. And there are those who would know
about renaming, but are unaware of all the laws
involved. Surely the departed mother's name would be
the most dearest if the father did the renaming.

Shalom,
Yehudah ben Shlomo,
U.S.A.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Hofer, etc. #austria-czech

peter bakos <pgbakos@...>
 

May I respectfully suggest to the correspondent that she visit her local
genealogy society and find some help in organizing her research? Perhaps
learning about SOSA and being able to identify which of several individuals
with the same name is which, would make it easier to answer questions. (And
probably to clarify her own understanding of what she has discovered).

I would also respectfully suggest, Internet experience to the contrary
notwithstanding, that she be absolutely certain when using Internet
generated information to identify sources so as to be able to independantly
confirm her research.

Peter Bakos
Budapest


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Same names for mother and daughter #lithuania

Yehudh bn Shlmo
 

Dear fellow members,

I have not followed this entire thread but if it has
not been said, we can't excuse Shinuy Shaim (being
renamed), and this is assuming her blessed mother had
already passed on. And, unless the Halacha forbids
using the name of a departed mother. If so please
comment. But then even, if the rename is >from a former
relative, assuming the mother has departed, it could
be permissible. And there are those who would know
about renaming, but are unaware of all the laws
involved. Surely the departed mother's name would be
the most dearest if the father did the renaming.

Shalom,
Yehudah ben Shlomo,
U.S.A.


Looking for family HUTH (? Vienna) #austria-czech

dnrrita@...
 

I was wondering if any one has come across the family surname of HUTH
and first name of Sigmond. I think he was born and died in Vienna, Austria.
He died around the year 1935; The only other information I have is that
he was a Levi.

Thank you

Dan Huth


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Looking for family HUTH (? Vienna) #austria-czech

dnrrita@...
 

I was wondering if any one has come across the family surname of HUTH
and first name of Sigmond. I think he was born and died in Vienna, Austria.
He died around the year 1935; The only other information I have is that
he was a Levi.

Thank you

Dan Huth


Re: Names #general

Scott Rosenberg <sdavidr@...>
 

There has been much discussion of Jewish names, specifically how it
could be that a mother and daughter have the same middle name.

Let me point out first that, if the mother were deceased and the baby
had somehow been born, the baby would have been named after the mother
using her full name, or the baby would have been named after another
person, and, in any case, that does not appear to be the situation
originally posted here.

More importantly, the issue with two similar names, Rivka Leah for the
mother and Hana Leah for the daughter, for example, is whether the
middle name, Leah, is independent of the given first name. If the
answer to that question is yes, one would not expect to find a
mother-daughter name combination of Rivka Leah and Hana Leah. But, if
the answer is no, and if Rivka Leah is an entirely different name >from
Hana Leah, the answer would be yes. This is a matter of some import in
Jewish law, and I believe rabbis have decided in favor of both options.
Perhaps a more learned member of this list could provide us with
details.

Scott Rosenberg
Searching: SOSNITZER, LITVIN/LITWIN (all spellings), LEVITAN (all
spellings), Bobroisk and Smorgon, Belarus; GLICKMAN/GLECKMAN (or other
spellings) Vitebsk, Smorgon and Minsk, Belarus; and Minnesota, Seattle,
Washington and Chicago, Illinois, USA; and Argentina; YAFFEY,
KAPLITZ/KOPLITZ/CAPLITZ (or other spellings) and, SHARP, SHART, SHARF,
SHARFSKY , Pogir, Pogiary, Kovno and Vilna, Lithuania, South Africa;
Australia; and Minnesota, North Dakota and Chicago, IL, USA; ROSENBERG,
Minnesota and North Dakota, USA; ROSENBLATT, Pogir, Pogiary, Kovno and
Vilna, Lithuania, and South Africa.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Names #lithuania

Scott Rosenberg <sdavidr@...>
 

There has been much discussion of Jewish names, specifically how it
could be that a mother and daughter have the same middle name.

Let me point out first that, if the mother were deceased and the baby
had somehow been born, the baby would have been named after the mother
using her full name, or the baby would have been named after another
person, and, in any case, that does not appear to be the situation
originally posted here.

More importantly, the issue with two similar names, Rivka Leah for the
mother and Hana Leah for the daughter, for example, is whether the
middle name, Leah, is independent of the given first name. If the
answer to that question is yes, one would not expect to find a
mother-daughter name combination of Rivka Leah and Hana Leah. But, if
the answer is no, and if Rivka Leah is an entirely different name >from
Hana Leah, the answer would be yes. This is a matter of some import in
Jewish law, and I believe rabbis have decided in favor of both options.
Perhaps a more learned member of this list could provide us with
details.

Scott Rosenberg
Searching: SOSNITZER, LITVIN/LITWIN (all spellings), LEVITAN (all
spellings), Bobroisk and Smorgon, Belarus; GLICKMAN/GLECKMAN (or other
spellings) Vitebsk, Smorgon and Minsk, Belarus; and Minnesota, Seattle,
Washington and Chicago, Illinois, USA; and Argentina; YAFFEY,
KAPLITZ/KOPLITZ/CAPLITZ (or other spellings) and, SHARP, SHART, SHARF,
SHARFSKY , Pogir, Pogiary, Kovno and Vilna, Lithuania, South Africa;
Australia; and Minnesota, North Dakota and Chicago, IL, USA; ROSENBERG,
Minnesota and North Dakota, USA; ROSENBLATT, Pogir, Pogiary, Kovno and
Vilna, Lithuania, and South Africa.


Mother and daughter names #lithuania

Altersolomon@...
 

A couple of weeks ago I attended a Reform synagogue service in the Bay
Area for the first time (celebrating a family barmitzva). I had been
asked to give my mothers hebrew name as well as my fathers for an aliya
(reading of the law). In checking my mothers hebrew name I discovered it
to have been Khaya Vikhna and last month asked you Litvak sigs about Vikhna.

What also puzzled me at the time was the fact that her mother was called
Khaya Anni (ayin nun yud). Since my grandmother was sensitive to
traditional Jewish customs and especially its superstitions (hence my name)
I have to assume that she regarded it as acceptable to give her daughter
the same first name as herself if she was given a different second name.

Alter Solomon


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Mother and daughter names #lithuania

Altersolomon@...
 

A couple of weeks ago I attended a Reform synagogue service in the Bay
Area for the first time (celebrating a family barmitzva). I had been
asked to give my mothers hebrew name as well as my fathers for an aliya
(reading of the law). In checking my mothers hebrew name I discovered it
to have been Khaya Vikhna and last month asked you Litvak sigs about Vikhna.

What also puzzled me at the time was the fact that her mother was called
Khaya Anni (ayin nun yud). Since my grandmother was sensitive to
traditional Jewish customs and especially its superstitions (hence my name)
I have to assume that she regarded it as acceptable to give her daughter
the same first name as herself if she was given a different second name.

Alter Solomon


Pinsk-Karolinsk #poland

Laurence Morrell <emorrell@...>
 

On a recent trip to Philadelphia, I was able to locate and copy the
naturalization papers of my grandfather. His birth place as shown on his
grave stone was Bialystok. However, on the naturalization papers, it is
listed as Pinsk-Karolinsk, Russia. I have not been able to locate this
town. Can anyone make some suggestions ?

Regards,

Laurence Morrell
searching Marel, Levinger, Osuszkes, Patt,


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Pinsk-Karolinsk #poland

Laurence Morrell <emorrell@...>
 

On a recent trip to Philadelphia, I was able to locate and copy the
naturalization papers of my grandfather. His birth place as shown on his
grave stone was Bialystok. However, on the naturalization papers, it is
listed as Pinsk-Karolinsk, Russia. I have not been able to locate this
town. Can anyone make some suggestions ?

Regards,

Laurence Morrell
searching Marel, Levinger, Osuszkes, Patt,


Civil registration in Berlin - search of competent borough #germany

Andreas J Schwab <andreas.schwab@...>
 

Civil records in Berlin for the time 1874 to today are kept at registry
offices (Standesamt) at the 12 Berlin boroughs. If the borough is not
known, one can apply for an official search at:

Standesamt Friedrichshain-Kreuzbreg von Berlin
Schlesische Strasse 27 a,
10997 Berlin

The office will do searches for a fee if the full name of the person is
known and if the time of the event is known within a 4-year window.

According to current German Federal legislation, civil registration
information after 1873 can only be released to direct descendants or
their representatives.

Andreas Schwab, suburban Montreal, Canada andreas.schwab@mcgill.ca


German SIG #Germany Civil registration in Berlin - search of competent borough #germany

Andreas J Schwab <andreas.schwab@...>
 

Civil records in Berlin for the time 1874 to today are kept at registry
offices (Standesamt) at the 12 Berlin boroughs. If the borough is not
known, one can apply for an official search at:

Standesamt Friedrichshain-Kreuzbreg von Berlin
Schlesische Strasse 27 a,
10997 Berlin

The office will do searches for a fee if the full name of the person is
known and if the time of the event is known within a 4-year window.

According to current German Federal legislation, civil registration
information after 1873 can only be released to direct descendants or
their representatives.

Andreas Schwab, suburban Montreal, Canada andreas.schwab@mcgill.ca


Re: Associations of descendants of towns #germany

Rachel Unkefer <runkefer@...>
 

I don't know anything about formal "associations", but at one time I had a
collection of email addresses for people researching Birkenfeld, Soetern, Bosen,
Gonnesweiler, and Hoppstadten, all in the former Grand Duchy of Oldenburg (not
near the city of Oldenburg).

I extracted all the BMD records >from the LDS microfilms and shared the results
with those people. >from that list I found out about more people and added them to
the list. We had a fair amount of back-and-forth communication in the group at
that time. Some people found each other that way and still maintain contact.
I'm not sure that anybody had a desire to get more "organized" or "associated"
than that.

Rachel Unkefer Central Virginia, USA <runkefer@pinehurst.net>


German SIG #Germany Re: Associations of descendants of towns #germany

Rachel Unkefer <runkefer@...>
 

I don't know anything about formal "associations", but at one time I had a
collection of email addresses for people researching Birkenfeld, Soetern, Bosen,
Gonnesweiler, and Hoppstadten, all in the former Grand Duchy of Oldenburg (not
near the city of Oldenburg).

I extracted all the BMD records >from the LDS microfilms and shared the results
with those people. >from that list I found out about more people and added them to
the list. We had a fair amount of back-and-forth communication in the group at
that time. Some people found each other that way and still maintain contact.
I'm not sure that anybody had a desire to get more "organized" or "associated"
than that.

Rachel Unkefer Central Virginia, USA <runkefer@pinehurst.net>


research in Kanev #ukraine

Irina Kunia <iritrashba@...>
 

Dear Genners,
I plan to do the research in Kanev after I finish with Belaya Tserkov.
Anybody wants to join to share the cost for Kanev location only?

Irit Rashba


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine research in Kanev #ukraine

Irina Kunia <iritrashba@...>
 

Dear Genners,
I plan to do the research in Kanev after I finish with Belaya Tserkov.
Anybody wants to join to share the cost for Kanev location only?

Irit Rashba


Reply from Romanian National Archives #romania

Reuven Singer <reuven-s@...>
 

I received a reply >from the Archives with a report about a month after I
sent them a request.

Reuven Singer
Jerusalem


Romania SIG #Romania Reply from Romanian National Archives #romania

Reuven Singer <reuven-s@...>
 

I received a reply >from the Archives with a report about a month after I
sent them a request.

Reuven Singer
Jerusalem