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Help on Organizing #general

Dorothy Harper <dorothyharper17@...>
 

I have signed up for the Litvak, Belarus, Polish, Galician SIGs and this
Jewish Gen Newsletter. I have folders for each of them on my hotmail which
I add to every day. I tend to procrastinate and then start reading >from the
oldest to newest, deleting those that have no information that I wish to
save, saving those that I may want to re-read or perhaps answer.

The sites recommended by genners are endless. I click, I look, I like the
site, and I save it to my Favorites under "Genealogy".

These sites yield other sites, linking links to links. I stopped counting
when I added my fiftieth site to my Favorites/Genealogy

I realize that I have a problem digesting instructions, so many sites, so
many instructions, Steve Morse couldn't even solve my conundrum. Jewish
Genealogy alone has so many different sites, each one yielding new data,
names, shtetls, I just don't know how to sort, file and save in an orderly
manner so that I can eventually use this information.

I have my four main family names (with in-laws) in color coded folders in
color coded file drawers.

I have bookshelves labeled "Research in Progress" "Canada" "Radom"
"Bobrka" "Anon Misc"..

I am advised on different ways to research once I get to a site. I find that
I am doubling back time and time again to documents and records I have seen
previously.

I copied out forms >from the LDS site for easy searching. I was advised to
make a "flow chart", to try Excel through Microsoft, to even make a separate
family Tree just for researching.

I have printed out Descendant charts, I have printed and indexed them
alphabetically, surnames, maiden names, spouses, parents, children, dates of
births marriages and deaths. I have Family Tree Maker Version 11. I have
looked for options in researching in an easy and orderly way.

I go back and forth, up and down. I flip pages, I scan my indexes I am
totally befuddled. I find I am getting my families mixed up (is Aunt Raisel
on my dad's side, my mom's, my husband's?) I am bordering on complete chaos.

I know I am probably emailing replies to genners more than once even when I
note my reply.

Someone help me. Someone must have an easy system for researching.

Years ago I attended the Los Angeles Jewish Genealogy meeting with a friend.
There I met a woman, glassy eyed, wild look on her face, trembling, who told
me she is addicted to genealogy. She kept repeating it over and over,
addicted, addicted.

I remember I told my friend that I hope I never get that way. Well, now I
am that way. I am totally immersed in this wonderful addiction and I love
it. I am revitalized every time I find a record, a document, a name.

That is why I am pleading for help. There has to be an easier way to
research.

Dorothy Harper, CA

KAPLAN/METTER Belarus and Litvaks; ROZENBERG/ROSENBERG Skaryszew near Radom,
Poland; HOCHBERG Bobrka Lvov Galicia/Austria; MOSSOWITZ Russia.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help on Organizing #general

Dorothy Harper <dorothyharper17@...>
 

I have signed up for the Litvak, Belarus, Polish, Galician SIGs and this
Jewish Gen Newsletter. I have folders for each of them on my hotmail which
I add to every day. I tend to procrastinate and then start reading >from the
oldest to newest, deleting those that have no information that I wish to
save, saving those that I may want to re-read or perhaps answer.

The sites recommended by genners are endless. I click, I look, I like the
site, and I save it to my Favorites under "Genealogy".

These sites yield other sites, linking links to links. I stopped counting
when I added my fiftieth site to my Favorites/Genealogy

I realize that I have a problem digesting instructions, so many sites, so
many instructions, Steve Morse couldn't even solve my conundrum. Jewish
Genealogy alone has so many different sites, each one yielding new data,
names, shtetls, I just don't know how to sort, file and save in an orderly
manner so that I can eventually use this information.

I have my four main family names (with in-laws) in color coded folders in
color coded file drawers.

I have bookshelves labeled "Research in Progress" "Canada" "Radom"
"Bobrka" "Anon Misc"..

I am advised on different ways to research once I get to a site. I find that
I am doubling back time and time again to documents and records I have seen
previously.

I copied out forms >from the LDS site for easy searching. I was advised to
make a "flow chart", to try Excel through Microsoft, to even make a separate
family Tree just for researching.

I have printed out Descendant charts, I have printed and indexed them
alphabetically, surnames, maiden names, spouses, parents, children, dates of
births marriages and deaths. I have Family Tree Maker Version 11. I have
looked for options in researching in an easy and orderly way.

I go back and forth, up and down. I flip pages, I scan my indexes I am
totally befuddled. I find I am getting my families mixed up (is Aunt Raisel
on my dad's side, my mom's, my husband's?) I am bordering on complete chaos.

I know I am probably emailing replies to genners more than once even when I
note my reply.

Someone help me. Someone must have an easy system for researching.

Years ago I attended the Los Angeles Jewish Genealogy meeting with a friend.
There I met a woman, glassy eyed, wild look on her face, trembling, who told
me she is addicted to genealogy. She kept repeating it over and over,
addicted, addicted.

I remember I told my friend that I hope I never get that way. Well, now I
am that way. I am totally immersed in this wonderful addiction and I love
it. I am revitalized every time I find a record, a document, a name.

That is why I am pleading for help. There has to be an easier way to
research.

Dorothy Harper, CA

KAPLAN/METTER Belarus and Litvaks; ROZENBERG/ROSENBERG Skaryszew near Radom,
Poland; HOCHBERG Bobrka Lvov Galicia/Austria; MOSSOWITZ Russia.


Re: Where are our Litvak ancestors originally from #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

The question 'Where are our ancestors originally from?' is really
meaningless without some qualification. According to the Bible, we should
say 'Eden'. Generally, Americans answer with the area where an immigrant
lived or was born (which might not be the same place - one cousin came
'from' Augustow, Russian Poland, as an adult in 1890, but was born in
Marseilles, France in 1864 or so) before immigration. And if you have the
information about several children in one family, you might find that they
were not all born in the same place - the family moved around.

We also have to ask 'What was the political situation at that time?'.
Lithuania, as a nation, did not exist for much of the time our ancestors
might have emigrated to the US >from Europe. The borders of and existance of
Lithuania, like Poland and Germany and everywhere else, varied over time.
So we must become better historians. My Bruckheimer ancestors came >from
Kuelsheim, Baden, Germany - when my gr grandfather left, however, there was
no Germany (which was formed in 1871), and Kuelsheim was not in Baden, but
was in an Archbishopric that was not any of the well-known states that
formed Germany.

However, Litvak means something else, which we have discussed here many
times. There was a division of Ashkenazi Judaism in Eastern Europe. Litvak
Jews were generally Northern, supposedly more 'intellectual', emotionally
cold; Galizianers were generally Southern, supposedly more 'emotional'.
Chassidism is generally more aligned with Galizianers, less interested in
logic and reason and more into feelings. (Please don't write arguing with
me on these descriptions, as they are well-known rough descriptions of the
divisions of Judaism and don't necessarily apply to any great extent to
specific people.)

So my Litvak ancestors were >from an area which is now Poland, but when they
left for America was the Kingdom of Poland in Russia. Before that they were
probably >from what is now Belarus. Before that, who knows - probably
Lithuania because in the 1700's that was a big country. Before that, who
knows.

Sally Bruckheimer
Bridgewater, NJ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Where are our Litvak ancestors originally from #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

The question 'Where are our ancestors originally from?' is really
meaningless without some qualification. According to the Bible, we should
say 'Eden'. Generally, Americans answer with the area where an immigrant
lived or was born (which might not be the same place - one cousin came
'from' Augustow, Russian Poland, as an adult in 1890, but was born in
Marseilles, France in 1864 or so) before immigration. And if you have the
information about several children in one family, you might find that they
were not all born in the same place - the family moved around.

We also have to ask 'What was the political situation at that time?'.
Lithuania, as a nation, did not exist for much of the time our ancestors
might have emigrated to the US >from Europe. The borders of and existance of
Lithuania, like Poland and Germany and everywhere else, varied over time.
So we must become better historians. My Bruckheimer ancestors came >from
Kuelsheim, Baden, Germany - when my gr grandfather left, however, there was
no Germany (which was formed in 1871), and Kuelsheim was not in Baden, but
was in an Archbishopric that was not any of the well-known states that
formed Germany.

However, Litvak means something else, which we have discussed here many
times. There was a division of Ashkenazi Judaism in Eastern Europe. Litvak
Jews were generally Northern, supposedly more 'intellectual', emotionally
cold; Galizianers were generally Southern, supposedly more 'emotional'.
Chassidism is generally more aligned with Galizianers, less interested in
logic and reason and more into feelings. (Please don't write arguing with
me on these descriptions, as they are well-known rough descriptions of the
divisions of Judaism and don't necessarily apply to any great extent to
specific people.)

So my Litvak ancestors were >from an area which is now Poland, but when they
left for America was the Kingdom of Poland in Russia. Before that they were
probably >from what is now Belarus. Before that, who knows - probably
Lithuania because in the 1700's that was a big country. Before that, who
knows.

Sally Bruckheimer
Bridgewater, NJ


Request for 2 WWI Draft Registration Cards from Pittsburgh #general

Howard Margol
 

<<From: Maria elena@pipeline.com If a Genner in Pittsburgh could find, copy
and send these two cards, I would be happy to reimburse for costs>>

All 24 million original WW I draft registration cards are in the new,
fantastic, NARA facility in Morrow, Georgia, and not in Pittsburgh.
Mail your request to: National Archives and Records Administration,
Southeast Regional Archives, 5780 Jonesboro Road, Morrow, GA 30260.
I cannot guarrantee results but the adminstration there is very
"user friendly".

Howard Margol
homargol@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Request for 2 WWI Draft Registration Cards from Pittsburgh #general

Howard Margol
 

<<From: Maria elena@pipeline.com If a Genner in Pittsburgh could find, copy
and send these two cards, I would be happy to reimburse for costs>>

All 24 million original WW I draft registration cards are in the new,
fantastic, NARA facility in Morrow, Georgia, and not in Pittsburgh.
Mail your request to: National Archives and Records Administration,
Southeast Regional Archives, 5780 Jonesboro Road, Morrow, GA 30260.
I cannot guarrantee results but the adminstration there is very
"user friendly".

Howard Margol
homargol@aol.com


Re: Where are our Ukrainian ancestors previously from? #ukraine

Max Heffler
 

My grandfather was born in what is now western Ukraine near the border with
Poland. We are Levites. I had my DNA tested and the half of Ashkenazi DNA we
match with is not of Middle Eastern origin but of Eastern European. One
theory is that we are Khazarian converts >from the Middle Ages. That would
place us a bit further east of the Ukraine. I still wonder how Levites could
convert in. Perhaps the ruling class got special dispensation?

--
Web sites I manage:
www.texsys.com - Personal home page
www.thedeliverables.com - My band: The Deliverables
www.texsys.com/ghjgs - Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society
www.jewishgen.org/Galicia - Gesher Galicia
www.woodsidecivicclub.com - Woodside Civic Club

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Mankovitz [mailto:roy@mankovitz.com]

snip> >from what little I can gather of family history, my
great-great-grandparents did not speak Russian or Ukrainian, only
Yiddish ...... (they moved on to Zvenigorodka, Rzhishchev, Yevpatoriya,
Simferopol' and Odesa, then the US in 1905). If so, what are the "real"
origins of my family and perhaps those of many fellow Ukrainian Jews.< snip


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: Where are our Ukrainian ancestors previously from? #ukraine

Max Heffler
 

My grandfather was born in what is now western Ukraine near the border with
Poland. We are Levites. I had my DNA tested and the half of Ashkenazi DNA we
match with is not of Middle Eastern origin but of Eastern European. One
theory is that we are Khazarian converts >from the Middle Ages. That would
place us a bit further east of the Ukraine. I still wonder how Levites could
convert in. Perhaps the ruling class got special dispensation?

--
Web sites I manage:
www.texsys.com - Personal home page
www.thedeliverables.com - My band: The Deliverables
www.texsys.com/ghjgs - Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society
www.jewishgen.org/Galicia - Gesher Galicia
www.woodsidecivicclub.com - Woodside Civic Club

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Mankovitz [mailto:roy@mankovitz.com]

snip> >from what little I can gather of family history, my
great-great-grandparents did not speak Russian or Ukrainian, only
Yiddish ...... (they moved on to Zvenigorodka, Rzhishchev, Yevpatoriya,
Simferopol' and Odesa, then the US in 1905). If so, what are the "real"
origins of my family and perhaps those of many fellow Ukrainian Jews.< snip


International Conference on Jewish Genealogy in New York #general

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

We are very excited about the wonderful response we have gotten
in such a short period of time since registration has been
opened. The 26th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish
Genealogy will be held in New York August 13-18. Visit our
website at http://www.jgsny2006.org/. You can now register for
the conference and reserve a room at the Marriott! Read about
the conference and see the newly posted Frequently Asked
Questions(FAQs)page on the site. Subscribe to the Conference
Mailing List on JewishGen. This is the only place on-line
where discussion about the conference is happening.
Please note that you must be a registered JewishGen user in
order to subscribe to this free listserv.

Hope you can join us,
Roni Seibel Liebowitz
Registration Chair


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen International Conference on Jewish Genealogy in New York #general

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

We are very excited about the wonderful response we have gotten
in such a short period of time since registration has been
opened. The 26th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish
Genealogy will be held in New York August 13-18. Visit our
website at http://www.jgsny2006.org/. You can now register for
the conference and reserve a room at the Marriott! Read about
the conference and see the newly posted Frequently Asked
Questions(FAQs)page on the site. Subscribe to the Conference
Mailing List on JewishGen. This is the only place on-line
where discussion about the conference is happening.
Please note that you must be a registered JewishGen user in
order to subscribe to this free listserv.

Hope you can join us,
Roni Seibel Liebowitz
Registration Chair


FERTEL Family from Wielopole/Cleveland #general

Linda Shefler <linsilv@...>
 

I'm having a rather difficult time figuring out how to word this without
making everyone's head spin! I think the most straightforward way to start
is with the questions and then list the facts that I do know.

Has anyone done research in Wielopole Galicia? According to the
ShtetlSeeker there are only 9 Wielopoles! I think I'm looking for one near
Krakow. I'm not sure that helps much!
Has anyone come across FERTEL/VIERTEL/FUERTEL/FIRTEL in their researching of
Krakow or Wielopole?
How can a huge clan of FERTELs who immigrated to Cleveland, OH from
1879-1882 not show up anywhere in ship's records?

Here is what I do know:

Avraham haLevi FERTEL (ben Yehosa Heschel) born ~1839 in Wielopole, Galicia
married Necha bat Cwi Hersz.
One of their sons, Shlomo/Solomon/Samuel FERTEL born ~ 1860 married (in
1879) Risa/Rysol/Rose REICHER bat Leibush born ~1860. They went to
Cleveland on their honeymoon and stayed there.
The rest of the family (about 9 people) followed and by 1882 they were all
in Cleveland.
I believe the Wielopole I'm looking for is near Krakow, as in 1904 Rose's
brother Samuel Manuel REICHER arrived in the US with Sam and Rose. He
listed his last residence as Krakow. Granted, it was 20 plus years after
Rose had left Galicia.
I have found many ship's manifests for various trips that various family
members made back and forth to Europe; including the trip where Sam and
Rose returned with Rose's brother. I cannot find their initial immigration
records.
I have found various records for other people by the name of FERTEL arriving
in the US with their destination Cleveland.
In 1890 I found the manifest for Leib FERTEL. He listed his place of birth
as Nirew Poland.
I found another manifest in 1890 for Minnie FERTEL (a very common name in
the family) arriving >from what looks like Hungary.
In Oct 1912 Anna FERTEL arrived in NY; her destination was her cousin Anna
FERTEL in Cleveland. The arriving Anna listed her father as Barbalan FERTAL
and her place of birth as Alsofriske, Hungary.

My history/data for the family since arriving in Cleveland is quite thorough
and complete. Now I'm trying to research back and am totally stuck. From
the strange assortment of information I've provided does anyone have any
suggestions as how to go about working on my initial questions? Is anyone
working on a FERTEL family?

As always, I very much appreciate the help that the group provides and I
thank you for your time.

Linda Silverman Shefler
Cary, NC
linsilv@nc.rr.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FERTEL Family from Wielopole/Cleveland #general

Linda Shefler <linsilv@...>
 

I'm having a rather difficult time figuring out how to word this without
making everyone's head spin! I think the most straightforward way to start
is with the questions and then list the facts that I do know.

Has anyone done research in Wielopole Galicia? According to the
ShtetlSeeker there are only 9 Wielopoles! I think I'm looking for one near
Krakow. I'm not sure that helps much!
Has anyone come across FERTEL/VIERTEL/FUERTEL/FIRTEL in their researching of
Krakow or Wielopole?
How can a huge clan of FERTELs who immigrated to Cleveland, OH from
1879-1882 not show up anywhere in ship's records?

Here is what I do know:

Avraham haLevi FERTEL (ben Yehosa Heschel) born ~1839 in Wielopole, Galicia
married Necha bat Cwi Hersz.
One of their sons, Shlomo/Solomon/Samuel FERTEL born ~ 1860 married (in
1879) Risa/Rysol/Rose REICHER bat Leibush born ~1860. They went to
Cleveland on their honeymoon and stayed there.
The rest of the family (about 9 people) followed and by 1882 they were all
in Cleveland.
I believe the Wielopole I'm looking for is near Krakow, as in 1904 Rose's
brother Samuel Manuel REICHER arrived in the US with Sam and Rose. He
listed his last residence as Krakow. Granted, it was 20 plus years after
Rose had left Galicia.
I have found many ship's manifests for various trips that various family
members made back and forth to Europe; including the trip where Sam and
Rose returned with Rose's brother. I cannot find their initial immigration
records.
I have found various records for other people by the name of FERTEL arriving
in the US with their destination Cleveland.
In 1890 I found the manifest for Leib FERTEL. He listed his place of birth
as Nirew Poland.
I found another manifest in 1890 for Minnie FERTEL (a very common name in
the family) arriving >from what looks like Hungary.
In Oct 1912 Anna FERTEL arrived in NY; her destination was her cousin Anna
FERTEL in Cleveland. The arriving Anna listed her father as Barbalan FERTAL
and her place of birth as Alsofriske, Hungary.

My history/data for the family since arriving in Cleveland is quite thorough
and complete. Now I'm trying to research back and am totally stuck. From
the strange assortment of information I've provided does anyone have any
suggestions as how to go about working on my initial questions? Is anyone
working on a FERTEL family?

As always, I very much appreciate the help that the group provides and I
thank you for your time.

Linda Silverman Shefler
Cary, NC
linsilv@nc.rr.com


Searching: RAIGORODETSKY #general

Peter Arnold <parnold@...>
 

I am looking for any record of, or information about, Sonia
RAIGORODETSKY, born ca. 1904 in Ponevezys, Lithuania, last known to
be in Rostov-on-Don in Russia, or her children Constantine or Valery.
Was a dentist or married to a dentist. Presumed killed in the German
invasion of Russia.
Thank you.
Peter Arnold (great-nephew) Researcher 52859. Member LitvakSIG, AustralianJGS.
--
Dr Peter Arnold
Edgecliff NSW
Australia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: RAIGORODETSKY #general

Peter Arnold <parnold@...>
 

I am looking for any record of, or information about, Sonia
RAIGORODETSKY, born ca. 1904 in Ponevezys, Lithuania, last known to
be in Rostov-on-Don in Russia, or her children Constantine or Valery.
Was a dentist or married to a dentist. Presumed killed in the German
invasion of Russia.
Thank you.
Peter Arnold (great-nephew) Researcher 52859. Member LitvakSIG, AustralianJGS.
--
Dr Peter Arnold
Edgecliff NSW
Australia


Birth Record - Have translation "SANDOWSKI" branch #general

Burt Hecht <burt1933@...>
 

Dear Genners,

In error I received a birth record for one Feige SANDOWSKII, born 1896 (or
1886) in Suwalki. There was an excellent translation >from the Cyrillic and
I'll forward the transliteration to one searching this family. Reply to me
privately.

Burt Hecht

Searching: SANDOFSKY (SANDOWSKI, etc.) Suwalki, Lomza


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Birth Record - Have translation "SANDOWSKI" branch #general

Burt Hecht <burt1933@...>
 

Dear Genners,

In error I received a birth record for one Feige SANDOWSKII, born 1896 (or
1886) in Suwalki. There was an excellent translation >from the Cyrillic and
I'll forward the transliteration to one searching this family. Reply to me
privately.

Burt Hecht

Searching: SANDOFSKY (SANDOWSKI, etc.) Suwalki, Lomza


Re: Gravesend Jewish community #unitedkingdom

Aubrey Jacobus <zen28027@...>
 

There was a small private Jewish girls boarding school on the 1871 census
situated
Old Dover Rd, Perry St , Northfleet , Gravesend

Head - Henriette Dreyfus ( b. Alsace )
Governess - Miriam Singer ( Sister Rev Simeon Singer )
Pupils - I, L, H and A Jacobs ( ? sisters) ages twins ? 15, 15 ,14 and 8
C. Isaacs 14 C and L Isaac ? twins 11 . R, Simmonds 11 , L. Lyon 7
snd G. Cohen 11

Is this strange establishment of interest -
Cant trace Henriette Dreyfus b. 1842 or Miriam Singer b. 1848 later.

Aubrey Jacobus


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: Gravesend Jewish community #unitedkingdom

Aubrey Jacobus <zen28027@...>
 

There was a small private Jewish girls boarding school on the 1871 census
situated
Old Dover Rd, Perry St , Northfleet , Gravesend

Head - Henriette Dreyfus ( b. Alsace )
Governess - Miriam Singer ( Sister Rev Simeon Singer )
Pupils - I, L, H and A Jacobs ( ? sisters) ages twins ? 15, 15 ,14 and 8
C. Isaacs 14 C and L Isaac ? twins 11 . R, Simmonds 11 , L. Lyon 7
snd G. Cohen 11

Is this strange establishment of interest -
Cant trace Henriette Dreyfus b. 1842 or Miriam Singer b. 1848 later.

Aubrey Jacobus


Re: Is there additional information in photocopies of Tarnow records? #galicia

Shelley K. Pollero
 

Dear Galicia list subscribers,

Two messages recently sent to the Galicia list were inadvertently not
posted. I am posting them at this time on behalf of one of our subscribers.
We apologize for the inconvenience.

Alan Wasser wrote on November 13, 2005:

I have just learned of two records in the PSA for the town of Tarnow.

BLASSER Bessie B 1872 159 15

Which is interesting because, although the last name is not quite right, the
year is right for it to be the birth of my grandmother Bessie BLATT, who was
born Sept 17, 1872 in Tarnow, but that doesn't show up in any record I
could find under the name BLATT.

Interestingly, there's also a BLASER Basie B 1877 1877 634 18 15
in the Tarnow records, but the year is not what we thought.

To figure out whether either really is her, I would need the names of her
parents, but the records I could find don't include that information. I only
have what you see above.

I could order photocopies of the original records >from JRI-Poland, but once
before I tried ordering photocopies of a bunch of records, and they came
with absolutely no additional information. Just exactly the same stuff that
I'd gotten on line, but harder to read. They went straight into the waste
basket.

Have any of you ever ordered photocopies of Tarnow records like these?

If the original record had parents' names, wouldn't that have been included
with the index information?

Alan Wasser
New York
alanwasser@worldnet.att.net

Alan Wasser wrote again on December 2, 2005:

I did go ahead and order the records mentioned in my November 13 message
but, unfortunately, I struck out again.

For both records, although they are 5 years apart, the report I got back
says only:

"The register book with this record is missing."

Thanks anyway for all your help.

Alan Wasser
New York
alanwasser@worldnet.att.net

Submitted by

Shelley K. Pollero
Gesher Galicia
geshergalicia@comcast.net
http://www.jewishgen.org/galicia/


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Is there additional information in photocopies of Tarnow records? #galicia

Shelley K. Pollero
 

Dear Galicia list subscribers,

Two messages recently sent to the Galicia list were inadvertently not
posted. I am posting them at this time on behalf of one of our subscribers.
We apologize for the inconvenience.

Alan Wasser wrote on November 13, 2005:

I have just learned of two records in the PSA for the town of Tarnow.

BLASSER Bessie B 1872 159 15

Which is interesting because, although the last name is not quite right, the
year is right for it to be the birth of my grandmother Bessie BLATT, who was
born Sept 17, 1872 in Tarnow, but that doesn't show up in any record I
could find under the name BLATT.

Interestingly, there's also a BLASER Basie B 1877 1877 634 18 15
in the Tarnow records, but the year is not what we thought.

To figure out whether either really is her, I would need the names of her
parents, but the records I could find don't include that information. I only
have what you see above.

I could order photocopies of the original records >from JRI-Poland, but once
before I tried ordering photocopies of a bunch of records, and they came
with absolutely no additional information. Just exactly the same stuff that
I'd gotten on line, but harder to read. They went straight into the waste
basket.

Have any of you ever ordered photocopies of Tarnow records like these?

If the original record had parents' names, wouldn't that have been included
with the index information?

Alan Wasser
New York
alanwasser@worldnet.att.net

Alan Wasser wrote again on December 2, 2005:

I did go ahead and order the records mentioned in my November 13 message
but, unfortunately, I struck out again.

For both records, although they are 5 years apart, the report I got back
says only:

"The register book with this record is missing."

Thanks anyway for all your help.

Alan Wasser
New York
alanwasser@worldnet.att.net

Submitted by

Shelley K. Pollero
Gesher Galicia
geshergalicia@comcast.net
http://www.jewishgen.org/galicia/