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Re: Jewish Scouts Dinard and Beaulieu/Dordogne World War II #france

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

The name ALTSCHUL is not common in France : only
9 of them are listed in the current telephone
directory, among whom is a Charlotte A. I'm going
to send you her address privately.

Concerning the other children who were sent with
your mother to Dinard and Beaulieu until June
1940, you can send your question to the French
Association "Enfants Caches" - 17 rue
Geoffroy-l'Asnier - F 75004 PARIS They publish a
quarterly bulletin each year, with a special part
with such questions and answers. You can write in
English and they will translate.

You can send your question also to ALOUMIM in
Jerusalem (Association of Hidden Children during
the Holocaust). They have a bulletin too with a
special part for such questions : ALOUMIM - 9 rue
Alcalay - Jerusalem (Israel)
Tel. : 02 561 22 07 - Fax : 02 642 46 06

You can write also to OSE < ose@ose-france.org >
This association has archives concerning hidden
children during WWII.

--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


French SIG #France Re: Jewish Scouts Dinard and Beaulieu/Dordogne World War II #france

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

The name ALTSCHUL is not common in France : only
9 of them are listed in the current telephone
directory, among whom is a Charlotte A. I'm going
to send you her address privately.

Concerning the other children who were sent with
your mother to Dinard and Beaulieu until June
1940, you can send your question to the French
Association "Enfants Caches" - 17 rue
Geoffroy-l'Asnier - F 75004 PARIS They publish a
quarterly bulletin each year, with a special part
with such questions and answers. You can write in
English and they will translate.

You can send your question also to ALOUMIM in
Jerusalem (Association of Hidden Children during
the Holocaust). They have a bulletin too with a
special part for such questions : ALOUMIM - 9 rue
Alcalay - Jerusalem (Israel)
Tel. : 02 561 22 07 - Fax : 02 642 46 06

You can write also to OSE < ose@ose-france.org >
This association has archives concerning hidden
children during WWII.

--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


Trying to locate Ellen Stepak #ukraine

Harriett <hbquinn@...>
 

Hello all, I have lost contact with a relative in Israel and I know she
reads this newsgroup. If you have her e-mail address, please send it to
Harriett in Whitefish, Montana USA. Thanks, hbquinn@aboutmontana.net


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Trying to locate Ellen Stepak #ukraine

Harriett <hbquinn@...>
 

Hello all, I have lost contact with a relative in Israel and I know she
reads this newsgroup. If you have her e-mail address, please send it to
Harriett in Whitefish, Montana USA. Thanks, hbquinn@aboutmontana.net


Re: Sofa,Palestine #general

John Smith <someone@...>
 

I believe that would be Suba, and I doubt any Jews lived there before 1948.

Benzy Shani


KLEIN and FRANK Families of Minsk Gubernia #general

SOL2516171@...
 

I am looking for information about the family of my wife's great great
grandparents Nathan KLEIN and Frieda FRANK of Minsk Gubernia (Belarus).
They had four children, all of whom settled in Brooklyn -- Basha,
Balya (Bella) Lapidus (1859-1941), Rhoda (Dora) Blitstein (1865- ca
1945), and Louis FRANK (he took his mother's maiden name as his
surname) (1866-1959). I don't know whether the KLEIN and FRANK
families lived in Minsk itself or some other town in the province.

David Solomon
Chevy Chase, Maryland
SOL2516171@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Sofa,Palestine #general

John Smith <someone@...>
 

I believe that would be Suba, and I doubt any Jews lived there before 1948.

Benzy Shani


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen KLEIN and FRANK Families of Minsk Gubernia #general

SOL2516171@...
 

I am looking for information about the family of my wife's great great
grandparents Nathan KLEIN and Frieda FRANK of Minsk Gubernia (Belarus).
They had four children, all of whom settled in Brooklyn -- Basha,
Balya (Bella) Lapidus (1859-1941), Rhoda (Dora) Blitstein (1865- ca
1945), and Louis FRANK (he took his mother's maiden name as his
surname) (1866-1959). I don't know whether the KLEIN and FRANK
families lived in Minsk itself or some other town in the province.

David Solomon
Chevy Chase, Maryland
SOL2516171@aol.com


Re: 1911 census, Montreal #general

Alan Greenberg
 

Joy, there is a finding aid and map for the major Montreal census
districts on the JGS-Montreal web site -
http://jgs-montreal.org/montreal-map.html . This is a modern-day map,
but most streets are still the same. Clarke has not moved and is
right in the middle of St. Laurent / St. Lawrence district (District
182). Unfortunately, there are no maps of the sub-districts and (so
far) no street index, so you need to go through the pages one-by-one.
If you have access to the Lovell's 1910 city directory for Montreal,
it often gives a "ward" name which will help narrow the search a bit.

The street names and addresses are in the census form immediately to
the right of the person's name.

Alan Greenberg
JGS-Montreal
Montreal, Canada

Subject: 1911 census, Montreal
From: Joy Weaver <joyweave@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:16:58 GMT

My father was born in Montreal in 1911, so I've been eagerly awaiting
release of the 1911 census. I have an address (349 Clarke St.) for
1913-15, but I don't know if they were there in 1911.
I'm not sure which district the address falls into, but based on a
modern map, I'm guessing it's St. Antoine, so I looked at the first
couple of online page images in that district and I'm at a complete
loss. Where are the street names?? How would I know I've found Clarke
St.? I must be missing something. And is St. Antoine the right
District for Clarke St. to begin with?
Help?
Joy Weaver, E. Islip, NY USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1911 census, Montreal #general

Alan Greenberg
 

Joy, there is a finding aid and map for the major Montreal census
districts on the JGS-Montreal web site -
http://jgs-montreal.org/montreal-map.html . This is a modern-day map,
but most streets are still the same. Clarke has not moved and is
right in the middle of St. Laurent / St. Lawrence district (District
182). Unfortunately, there are no maps of the sub-districts and (so
far) no street index, so you need to go through the pages one-by-one.
If you have access to the Lovell's 1910 city directory for Montreal,
it often gives a "ward" name which will help narrow the search a bit.

The street names and addresses are in the census form immediately to
the right of the person's name.

Alan Greenberg
JGS-Montreal
Montreal, Canada

Subject: 1911 census, Montreal
From: Joy Weaver <joyweave@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:16:58 GMT

My father was born in Montreal in 1911, so I've been eagerly awaiting
release of the 1911 census. I have an address (349 Clarke St.) for
1913-15, but I don't know if they were there in 1911.
I'm not sure which district the address falls into, but based on a
modern map, I'm guessing it's St. Antoine, so I looked at the first
couple of online page images in that district and I'm at a complete
loss. Where are the street names?? How would I know I've found Clarke
St.? I must be missing something. And is St. Antoine the right
District for Clarke St. to begin with?
Help?
Joy Weaver, E. Islip, NY USA


Re: My brick wall - the KRONEN family #general

Yehudh bn Shlmo
 

Dear Geners,

I saw a later posting on this that said in the 1930
Census the name was KORMAN. Just in case anyone else
is checking, I am looking at the Census now and it is
KROMAN in the 1930 Census. And Fredrick is spelled
Frederick in the copy I am looking at.

Happy Hunting,
Yehudah ben Shlomo

Charles Kronen was born in Rypin, Poland, immigrated to the U.S. at
about age 19 in 1921, settled on the Lower East Side of Manhattan, and
married Yetta Fein in 1923. He drove a laundry truck, and they had three
children -- Morris in 1923, Fredrick in 1926, and Fannie some time after
the 1930 census. (Charles, Yetta, Morris, and Fredrick are listed on the
1930 census). In 1938, at about age 35, Charles died >from tuberculosis,
and thereafter Yetta did not keep in touch with his side of the family.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: My brick wall - the KRONEN family #general

Yehudh bn Shlmo
 

Dear Geners,

I saw a later posting on this that said in the 1930
Census the name was KORMAN. Just in case anyone else
is checking, I am looking at the Census now and it is
KROMAN in the 1930 Census. And Fredrick is spelled
Frederick in the copy I am looking at.

Happy Hunting,
Yehudah ben Shlomo

Charles Kronen was born in Rypin, Poland, immigrated to the U.S. at
about age 19 in 1921, settled on the Lower East Side of Manhattan, and
married Yetta Fein in 1923. He drove a laundry truck, and they had three
children -- Morris in 1923, Fredrick in 1926, and Fannie some time after
the 1930 census. (Charles, Yetta, Morris, and Fredrick are listed on the
1930 census). In 1938, at about age 35, Charles died >from tuberculosis,
and thereafter Yetta did not keep in touch with his side of the family.


JG Re: Israeli Death Certificate #general

jeremy frankel
 

Dear Genners,

Especially those attempting to obtain a death certificate >from
Israel. It is my understanding that only direct descendants can
obtain one, and I think that you have to prove your relationship. If
you are "just" a cousin, then I think you are out of luck.

My knowledge comes >from assisting someone in a Holocaust claim. He
was a distant cousin of a Yad Vashem submitter who died in 1986. He
lives in the US but could not obtain a copy of the death certificate!

Sincerely,

--
Jeremy G Frankel
ex Edgware, London, England
Berkeley, California, USA

EBIN: Russia -> New York, USA
FRANKEL: Poland -> London, England
GOLD (RATH): Praszka, Poland -> London, England
KOENIGSBERG: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania -> London, England -> NYC, NY, USA
LEVY (later LEADER): Kalisz, Poland -> London, England
PRINCZ/PRINCE: Krakow, Poland -> London, England -> NYC, NY, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JG Re: Israeli Death Certificate #general

jeremy frankel
 

Dear Genners,

Especially those attempting to obtain a death certificate >from
Israel. It is my understanding that only direct descendants can
obtain one, and I think that you have to prove your relationship. If
you are "just" a cousin, then I think you are out of luck.

My knowledge comes >from assisting someone in a Holocaust claim. He
was a distant cousin of a Yad Vashem submitter who died in 1986. He
lives in the US but could not obtain a copy of the death certificate!

Sincerely,

--
Jeremy G Frankel
ex Edgware, London, England
Berkeley, California, USA

EBIN: Russia -> New York, USA
FRANKEL: Poland -> London, England
GOLD (RATH): Praszka, Poland -> London, England
KOENIGSBERG: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania -> London, England -> NYC, NY, USA
LEVY (later LEADER): Kalisz, Poland -> London, England
PRINCZ/PRINCE: Krakow, Poland -> London, England -> NYC, NY, USA


More warts - what was not told #general

Barbara Zimmer <bravo.zulu@...>
 

In my family, there were several topics that were not discussed - at
least not with "the children". So I did no know that my uncle
committed suicide by taking cyanide. (He was a jeweler and thus had
access to cyanide which is used to purify gold.) I was able to
obtain the death certificate at the state archives.

Nor did I know (until I recently asked my elderly aunt) that my other
uncle divorced his wife (my father's sister) and remarried. I
obtained more details on that one >from his will.

And in my husband's family there was a great-cousin who "worked in a
saloon" in the western part of the US. A mutual cousin of my
husband was reluctant to share any information about her. The
important part is that she died young and may have suffered >from a
chronic genetic disease which we know has affected one branch of the
family for over 4 generations.

As genealogists we often uncover details which might otherwise remain
hidden. Some of those details may prove to be highly significant.

Barbara Zimmer
Virginia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen More warts - what was not told #general

Barbara Zimmer <bravo.zulu@...>
 

In my family, there were several topics that were not discussed - at
least not with "the children". So I did no know that my uncle
committed suicide by taking cyanide. (He was a jeweler and thus had
access to cyanide which is used to purify gold.) I was able to
obtain the death certificate at the state archives.

Nor did I know (until I recently asked my elderly aunt) that my other
uncle divorced his wife (my father's sister) and remarried. I
obtained more details on that one >from his will.

And in my husband's family there was a great-cousin who "worked in a
saloon" in the western part of the US. A mutual cousin of my
husband was reluctant to share any information about her. The
important part is that she died young and may have suffered >from a
chronic genetic disease which we know has affected one branch of the
family for over 4 generations.

As genealogists we often uncover details which might otherwise remain
hidden. Some of those details may prove to be highly significant.

Barbara Zimmer
Virginia


Mlawa yizkor books #poland

P Concus <pconcus@...>
 

Does anyone know the answer to this?

In the JewishGen.org Yizkor book listing for Mlawa there are the entries:

(i) "Jewish Mlawa; its history, development, destruction", D.
Shtokfish, ed. (two volumes), Tel Aviv, 1984

(ii) "Pinkas Mlave", New York, 1950

(iii) "Pinkas hakehillot: encyclopedia of Jewish Communities: Poland
vol. 4: Warsaw and its region", Jerusalem, 1989.

In the Yad Vashem Library collection (as listed on JewishGen.org),
there are listed three titles for Mlawa:
T763, which corresponds to listing (i) above
T72, which corresponds to listing (ii) above.
However, the Yad Vashem third listing T327 (Yediom, Assoc.,
1966-1972) looks as if it is a different book than (iii) above.

Is it the case that there are four Mlawa books, two of which are in
both listings, the other two being in only one of the listings?

Thank you.

Paul Concus
Berkeley, CA


JRI Poland #Poland Mlawa yizkor books #poland

P Concus <pconcus@...>
 

Does anyone know the answer to this?

In the JewishGen.org Yizkor book listing for Mlawa there are the entries:

(i) "Jewish Mlawa; its history, development, destruction", D.
Shtokfish, ed. (two volumes), Tel Aviv, 1984

(ii) "Pinkas Mlave", New York, 1950

(iii) "Pinkas hakehillot: encyclopedia of Jewish Communities: Poland
vol. 4: Warsaw and its region", Jerusalem, 1989.

In the Yad Vashem Library collection (as listed on JewishGen.org),
there are listed three titles for Mlawa:
T763, which corresponds to listing (i) above
T72, which corresponds to listing (ii) above.
However, the Yad Vashem third listing T327 (Yediom, Assoc.,
1966-1972) looks as if it is a different book than (iii) above.

Is it the case that there are four Mlawa books, two of which are in
both listings, the other two being in only one of the listings?

Thank you.

Paul Concus
Berkeley, CA


Salomon Manus BLOCH from Gailingen #general

Ruth und Thomas Bloch <ruthomas.bloch@...>
 

In the list of names given to the Jews in Gailingen in the year 1809 is
mentioned a Salomon Manus BLOCH, age 72 with his wife Schaindel, age 60,
together with children named Jakob (27), Borich (19), Elk (20) and Mayer
(17). - Does anybody claim to be a descendant of this family? I will be
very happy for any information which would help me to verify and confirm
the link to my family.
Thomas Bloch,
Zurich, Switzerland
Thomas.Bloch@bluewin.ch


1915 Canada Census #general

AllanDolgow@...
 

I noticed that there are often questions about Canadian immigration. The
only data base site I have found is the 1915 census of Canada. This site may be
of some value in tracing Canadian relatives.

http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1911/index-e.html

Allan Dolgow
West Sacramento, CA