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Where are our Ukrainian ancestors previously from? #ukraine

Roy Mankovitz <roy@...>
 

My grandmother (father's mother) and her parents and grandparents (FAGIN,
SHOTKIN) appear to have been born and raised in Rzhishchev, south of Kyyiv,
beginning early 1800s. >from what little I can gather of family history, my
great-great-grandparents did not speak Russian or Ukrainian, only
Yiddish. They were tailors and musicians, and apparently could get by just
communicating with their fellow shtetlites. So, it raises the question of
whether my family ever considered the Ukraine as their homeland, or simply
one of a long list of places the Jews were displaced to (they moved on to
Zvenigorodka, Rzhishchev, Yevpatoriya, Simferopol' and Odesa, then the US
in 1905). If so, what are the "real" origins of my family and perhaps
those of many fellow Ukrainian Jews. Trying to find out the true origins
of the Yiddish language(s) is also a frustrating experience. I wonder if
any fellow genners have looked into research tools (if there are any) to
see what lay before the Ukraine for our ancestors.

Roy Mankovitz
Montecito, California


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Where are our Ukrainian ancestors previously from? #ukraine

Roy Mankovitz <roy@...>
 

My grandmother (father's mother) and her parents and grandparents (FAGIN,
SHOTKIN) appear to have been born and raised in Rzhishchev, south of Kyyiv,
beginning early 1800s. >from what little I can gather of family history, my
great-great-grandparents did not speak Russian or Ukrainian, only
Yiddish. They were tailors and musicians, and apparently could get by just
communicating with their fellow shtetlites. So, it raises the question of
whether my family ever considered the Ukraine as their homeland, or simply
one of a long list of places the Jews were displaced to (they moved on to
Zvenigorodka, Rzhishchev, Yevpatoriya, Simferopol' and Odesa, then the US
in 1905). If so, what are the "real" origins of my family and perhaps
those of many fellow Ukrainian Jews. Trying to find out the true origins
of the Yiddish language(s) is also a frustrating experience. I wonder if
any fellow genners have looked into research tools (if there are any) to
see what lay before the Ukraine for our ancestors.

Roy Mankovitz
Montecito, California


Feiler and Wirthsafter/Wirtschafte Families #general

ffrf0509 <ffrf0509@...>
 

I am new to the "art" family ancestry search and would appreciate replies
from anyone having knowledge of the following families:
FEILER---living in or around Cracow, Austria in the mid-1800s and/or
emigrated to the U.S. in the 1880-1900 period.

WIRTHSAFTER or WIRTSCHAFTER---living in or around Saraljaujhely in the
mid-1800s and or emigrated to the U.S. in the 1880-1900 period.

Thank you.

Frank W. Feiler

MODERATOR NOTE: Please enter your searches in the JewishGen Family
Finder (JGFF) at http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/. This will greatly improve
your chances of finding a match. There is currently one listing for FEILER
in Krakow.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Feiler and Wirthsafter/Wirtschafte Families #general

ffrf0509 <ffrf0509@...>
 

I am new to the "art" family ancestry search and would appreciate replies
from anyone having knowledge of the following families:
FEILER---living in or around Cracow, Austria in the mid-1800s and/or
emigrated to the U.S. in the 1880-1900 period.

WIRTHSAFTER or WIRTSCHAFTER---living in or around Saraljaujhely in the
mid-1800s and or emigrated to the U.S. in the 1880-1900 period.

Thank you.

Frank W. Feiler

MODERATOR NOTE: Please enter your searches in the JewishGen Family
Finder (JGFF) at http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/. This will greatly improve
your chances of finding a match. There is currently one listing for FEILER
in Krakow.


How to find submitter of Pages of Testimony #general

Leslie Weinberg <artsoul@...>
 

How would I even start to try to find an Eliezer Veinberger in Israel
who submitted Pages of Testimony for relatives >from Tyczyn, Poland, in
the 1950s? If he is no longer living, would it even be possible to find
his descendents? Leslie Weinberg

Searching EISEN, IRAM, BLUMENBERG - Tyczyn, Poland and Nagyvarad
(Oradea) Romania
REISS, NOVEMBER - Nagyvarad (Oradea) Romania.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen How to find submitter of Pages of Testimony #general

Leslie Weinberg <artsoul@...>
 

How would I even start to try to find an Eliezer Veinberger in Israel
who submitted Pages of Testimony for relatives >from Tyczyn, Poland, in
the 1950s? If he is no longer living, would it even be possible to find
his descendents? Leslie Weinberg

Searching EISEN, IRAM, BLUMENBERG - Tyczyn, Poland and Nagyvarad
(Oradea) Romania
REISS, NOVEMBER - Nagyvarad (Oradea) Romania.


Re: City Directories #general

janicemsj@...
 

At 5:38 PM -0500 12/2/05, Joseph Fibel wrote:

One of posters today asked for a researcher to do some look ups in another
city's City Directories. This is completely unnecessary.

There are three separate possibilities for such research.
<snip>

Another possibility is the City-Directories-L Mailing List at rootsweb.com.
The list is open to anyone to sign up and request look-ups in city
directories.

Janice Sellers
Oakland, CA

Researching BRAININ/BREININ, JAFFE/IOFFE, BINDERMAN, Kreuzburg-Jacobstadt;
GORODETZKY, SCHNEIDERMAN, COHEN, KARDISH, Kamenets Podolskiy


City Directories #general

Merle Kastner <merlek@...>
 

Dear Genners,

The subject of searching City Directories has surfaced again.
In addition to Joe Fibel's good advice, here is another resource
which has been of great help to me and to others in the past:

City Directories:
You can obtain some great help, by going into:
http://userdb.rootsweb.com/citydir/ - there is no charge for subscription
and you can unsubscribe at any time.

Then, post a message on: CITY-DIRECTORIES-L@rootsweb.com
and ask for the help you need - put the name of the city in cap's, at the
beginning of your subject line, and then outline the rest of the subject -
such as: "NEW YORK CITY - GOLDBERG - 1960's lookup request"

Make your subject heading clear & concise, to get more responses.
Put city, year/s you want & surname. Many people won't open messages
that don't state what people are looking for.
This is all run by private volunteers.
---
Merle Kastner
Montreal, Canada
merlek@videotron.ca
Researching:
KASTNER & OSTFELD, Radauti, Bukovina;
NATHANSON & MENDELSSOHN, Piatra Neamt, Negulesti, Falticeni, Romania;
DENENBERG/DYNABURSKI & GARBARSKI/GOLDBERG,
Sejny, Suwalki gubernia, Poland, New York, NY;
KUSSNER, Bendery, Bessarabia/Moldova, Philadelphia, PA;
MILLER/SZCZUCZYNSKI, Lida, Vilnius, Lithuania/Belarus, Philadelphia, PA.


1905 NY State Census #general

Trudy Barch
 

I need some help >from a kind New York researcher. I am trying to use
the 1905 New York state census. New York County does not seem to
appear on the list of county names. Is that correct or am I doing
something wrong?

Thanks for any guidance that can be given.

Trudy Barch,
Chicagoland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: City Directories #general

janicemsj@...
 

At 5:38 PM -0500 12/2/05, Joseph Fibel wrote:

One of posters today asked for a researcher to do some look ups in another
city's City Directories. This is completely unnecessary.

There are three separate possibilities for such research.
<snip>

Another possibility is the City-Directories-L Mailing List at rootsweb.com.
The list is open to anyone to sign up and request look-ups in city
directories.

Janice Sellers
Oakland, CA

Researching BRAININ/BREININ, JAFFE/IOFFE, BINDERMAN, Kreuzburg-Jacobstadt;
GORODETZKY, SCHNEIDERMAN, COHEN, KARDISH, Kamenets Podolskiy


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen City Directories #general

Merle Kastner <merlek@...>
 

Dear Genners,

The subject of searching City Directories has surfaced again.
In addition to Joe Fibel's good advice, here is another resource
which has been of great help to me and to others in the past:

City Directories:
You can obtain some great help, by going into:
http://userdb.rootsweb.com/citydir/ - there is no charge for subscription
and you can unsubscribe at any time.

Then, post a message on: CITY-DIRECTORIES-L@rootsweb.com
and ask for the help you need - put the name of the city in cap's, at the
beginning of your subject line, and then outline the rest of the subject -
such as: "NEW YORK CITY - GOLDBERG - 1960's lookup request"

Make your subject heading clear & concise, to get more responses.
Put city, year/s you want & surname. Many people won't open messages
that don't state what people are looking for.
This is all run by private volunteers.
---
Merle Kastner
Montreal, Canada
merlek@videotron.ca
Researching:
KASTNER & OSTFELD, Radauti, Bukovina;
NATHANSON & MENDELSSOHN, Piatra Neamt, Negulesti, Falticeni, Romania;
DENENBERG/DYNABURSKI & GARBARSKI/GOLDBERG,
Sejny, Suwalki gubernia, Poland, New York, NY;
KUSSNER, Bendery, Bessarabia/Moldova, Philadelphia, PA;
MILLER/SZCZUCZYNSKI, Lida, Vilnius, Lithuania/Belarus, Philadelphia, PA.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1905 NY State Census #general

Trudy Barch
 

I need some help >from a kind New York researcher. I am trying to use
the 1905 New York state census. New York County does not seem to
appear on the list of county names. Is that correct or am I doing
something wrong?

Thanks for any guidance that can be given.

Trudy Barch,
Chicagoland


IGS Tel-Aviv Branch -- The Pickholz Families of East Galicia -- A Single Surname Project -- Monday December 12, 2005 #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

Our guest for the evening is Israel Picholtz. Israel has conducted an
extensive research project of the family name "Pickholz" that covers east
Galicia under the rule of Austria, Poland and the Ukraine with connections
to Hungary. Among the sources he will discuss are the materials he found in
the archives of Kollel Galicia in Mea Shearim.

The meeting will take place on Monday December 12, 2005 at Beit Hatanach, 16
Rothschild Blvd., Tel-Aviv, at 19:00. The meeting will be in Hebrew.
Entrance is free for members. There is a 20 shekel entrance fee for
non-members. You are cordially invited to use our library which is open >from
18:00-19:00, and consult other members about your genealogy quests.

Our effort of help to all those >from abroad looking for submitters >from
Israel of Pages of Testimonies at Yad Vashem is a very exciting project. We
have received many emotional letters telling us of families (usually second
and third cousins) we have succeeded in reuniting. We update our list
continually. Please help us help others. Those lines that are white are the
lines that may you can help us with.
http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/Research/VY-search-Israel.pdf

For further information you can contact: Billie Stein at:
billie@012.net.il or at: 03- 571 8633 in the evenings.

The Israel Genealogy Society
igs@isragen.org.il
www.isragen.org.il
P.O.Box 4270 Jerusalem 91041
Chana Furman ehfurman@netvision.net.il Phone: (972) (8) 688 0884

* * Upcoming meetings * * *

Jan. 9, 2005: IGS Tel-Aviv Branch & SIG Sephardim - The Alliance Schools in
Volos and Larissa, Elia Raphael Faraggi Activity in the Alliance Israelite
Universelle


NARA Workshop-JGSLA-Los Angeles-Dec. 11th #general

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

Do you live in the Los Angeles area?

Are you curious about the extensive resources at the National Archives and
Records Administration in Laguna Niguel or do you want to learn more about
NARA's online databases so you can conduct genealogical research >from the
comfort of your own home computer?

If so...then plan to attend the Jewish Genealogical Society of Los Angeles's
next meeting:

A NARA Mini-Workshop on Sunday, December 11, 2005 at 1:00PM

at The Bernard Milkin Jewish Community Campus, West Hills, CA (see below for
directions)

Randy Thompson, Archivist at the National Archives in Laguna Niguel, will
provide an introduction to the genealogical resources available at NARA and
will give tips on:

-- researching naturalization, immigration and ship's passenger records
-- census records
-- military records >from the Revolutionary War through the conflicts of the
late 20th century
-- techniques on preserving your family's history in photographs, historical
documents and other treasured heirlooms

He will also explain all the upcoming NARA on-site genealogical workshops
taking place this winter and spring in Laguna Niguel.

Randy Thompson has been employed with the National Archives and Records
Administration—Pacific Region since 1995 and has presented a variety of
genealogical workshops since 2000. In addition to his duties as coordinator
of reference services, he manages the volunteer program and assists
genealogical and scholarly researchers in person as well as through
telephone and written inquiries.

Location: Bernard Milkin Jewish Community Campus, 22622 Vanowen St., West
Hills, CA.

(Exit the westbound 101 (Ventura) Freeway at Shoup and turn right on Ventura
Blvd. and then right again on Shoup. Continue 1.5 miles to Vanowen and turn
left; the Milkin Campus will be on your left. Or exit the eastbound 101 on
Fallbrook. Take Fallbrook north to Vanowen; turn right and the Milkin will
be on your right.)

$5 charge for guests - No charge for JGSLA members
(You can also join at the door for the 2006 calendar year.)

Bring your questions....and Randy will provide the answers! We look forward
to seeing you there.

Pamela Weisberger
Program Chair, JGSLA
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


JGS of Long Island Meeting #general

Jackie Wasserstein
 

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island invites you to join us at our
Sunday, December 18 meeting.

Topic: "Finding Schmul and Rebekka in Holocaust records - Possibilities and
Pitfalls"

Our guest speaker is Peter Lande. Peter is a retired foreign service
officer for the U.S. State Department who has become a volunteer at the U.S.
Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM). In July 2001 he received a Lifetime
Achievement Award >from the International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies for his work in identifying sources of information on Holocaust victims
and survivors. Over the past ten years he has traveled widely in Europe collecting
lists of Holocaust victims and survivors, primarily for the United States
Holocaust Memorial Museum. In addition, he computerizes and/or proofreads
names for inclusion in Museum or Jewishgen databases.

Time: 2:00 PM
Place: Mid-Island Y JCC 45 Manetto Hill Road Plainview, New York

Admission is free and all are welcome. Refreshments will be served.
Resource books will be available. Our "Mavens" will take your genealogy
questions at 1:30 PM.

For more information please contact Rhoda, _rmiller871@aol.com_

Jackie Wasserstein
Past President


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen IGS Tel-Aviv Branch -- The Pickholz Families of East Galicia -- A Single Surname Project -- Monday December 12, 2005 #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

Our guest for the evening is Israel Picholtz. Israel has conducted an
extensive research project of the family name "Pickholz" that covers east
Galicia under the rule of Austria, Poland and the Ukraine with connections
to Hungary. Among the sources he will discuss are the materials he found in
the archives of Kollel Galicia in Mea Shearim.

The meeting will take place on Monday December 12, 2005 at Beit Hatanach, 16
Rothschild Blvd., Tel-Aviv, at 19:00. The meeting will be in Hebrew.
Entrance is free for members. There is a 20 shekel entrance fee for
non-members. You are cordially invited to use our library which is open >from
18:00-19:00, and consult other members about your genealogy quests.

Our effort of help to all those >from abroad looking for submitters >from
Israel of Pages of Testimonies at Yad Vashem is a very exciting project. We
have received many emotional letters telling us of families (usually second
and third cousins) we have succeeded in reuniting. We update our list
continually. Please help us help others. Those lines that are white are the
lines that may you can help us with.
http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/Research/VY-search-Israel.pdf

For further information you can contact: Billie Stein at:
billie@012.net.il or at: 03- 571 8633 in the evenings.

The Israel Genealogy Society
igs@isragen.org.il
www.isragen.org.il
P.O.Box 4270 Jerusalem 91041
Chana Furman ehfurman@netvision.net.il Phone: (972) (8) 688 0884

* * Upcoming meetings * * *

Jan. 9, 2005: IGS Tel-Aviv Branch & SIG Sephardim - The Alliance Schools in
Volos and Larissa, Elia Raphael Faraggi Activity in the Alliance Israelite
Universelle


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NARA Workshop-JGSLA-Los Angeles-Dec. 11th #general

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

Do you live in the Los Angeles area?

Are you curious about the extensive resources at the National Archives and
Records Administration in Laguna Niguel or do you want to learn more about
NARA's online databases so you can conduct genealogical research >from the
comfort of your own home computer?

If so...then plan to attend the Jewish Genealogical Society of Los Angeles's
next meeting:

A NARA Mini-Workshop on Sunday, December 11, 2005 at 1:00PM

at The Bernard Milkin Jewish Community Campus, West Hills, CA (see below for
directions)

Randy Thompson, Archivist at the National Archives in Laguna Niguel, will
provide an introduction to the genealogical resources available at NARA and
will give tips on:

-- researching naturalization, immigration and ship's passenger records
-- census records
-- military records >from the Revolutionary War through the conflicts of the
late 20th century
-- techniques on preserving your family's history in photographs, historical
documents and other treasured heirlooms

He will also explain all the upcoming NARA on-site genealogical workshops
taking place this winter and spring in Laguna Niguel.

Randy Thompson has been employed with the National Archives and Records
Administration—Pacific Region since 1995 and has presented a variety of
genealogical workshops since 2000. In addition to his duties as coordinator
of reference services, he manages the volunteer program and assists
genealogical and scholarly researchers in person as well as through
telephone and written inquiries.

Location: Bernard Milkin Jewish Community Campus, 22622 Vanowen St., West
Hills, CA.

(Exit the westbound 101 (Ventura) Freeway at Shoup and turn right on Ventura
Blvd. and then right again on Shoup. Continue 1.5 miles to Vanowen and turn
left; the Milkin Campus will be on your left. Or exit the eastbound 101 on
Fallbrook. Take Fallbrook north to Vanowen; turn right and the Milkin will
be on your right.)

$5 charge for guests - No charge for JGSLA members
(You can also join at the door for the 2006 calendar year.)

Bring your questions....and Randy will provide the answers! We look forward
to seeing you there.

Pamela Weisberger
Program Chair, JGSLA
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Long Island Meeting #general

Jackie Wasserstein
 

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island invites you to join us at our
Sunday, December 18 meeting.

Topic: "Finding Schmul and Rebekka in Holocaust records - Possibilities and
Pitfalls"

Our guest speaker is Peter Lande. Peter is a retired foreign service
officer for the U.S. State Department who has become a volunteer at the U.S.
Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM). In July 2001 he received a Lifetime
Achievement Award >from the International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies for his work in identifying sources of information on Holocaust victims
and survivors. Over the past ten years he has traveled widely in Europe collecting
lists of Holocaust victims and survivors, primarily for the United States
Holocaust Memorial Museum. In addition, he computerizes and/or proofreads
names for inclusion in Museum or Jewishgen databases.

Time: 2:00 PM
Place: Mid-Island Y JCC 45 Manetto Hill Road Plainview, New York

Admission is free and all are welcome. Refreshments will be served.
Resource books will be available. Our "Mavens" will take your genealogy
questions at 1:30 PM.

For more information please contact Rhoda, _rmiller871@aol.com_

Jackie Wasserstein
Past President


GRANT of ADDERLY STREET #southafrica

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

In late 1908, my great grandfather, Mr Franz GINSBERG,
MLA, became a director of Kolmanskop Diamond Company,
based in Cape Town. Its shareholders included PC GRANT
and Grant (Broker), both of Adderly Street. The
brokers company could well have been called "Grant,
Grant & Co.".

Does anyone have any information about the Grants or
their activities?

Thanks, and seasons greetings from
Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica GRANT of ADDERLY STREET #southafrica

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

In late 1908, my great grandfather, Mr Franz GINSBERG,
MLA, became a director of Kolmanskop Diamond Company,
based in Cape Town. Its shareholders included PC GRANT
and Grant (Broker), both of Adderly Street. The
brokers company could well have been called "Grant,
Grant & Co.".

Does anyone have any information about the Grants or
their activities?

Thanks, and seasons greetings from
Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>