I posted a message like this last year. I am looking for two Submittesr of
Holocaust Testimony to Yad Vashem, their descendants or anyone who may be
related to or know anything about the people/families mentioned below. The
first submitter is named Lote BER or BAR. In 1955 she lived at King George
103 Street in Tel Aiv, Israel. She gave testimony about Shumel Hirsch
ZILBERMAN who was born in Girtagola (Girkalnis), Lithuania in 1887. Shmuel
was a single schoolteacher. According to another Submitter, Rabbi Azriel
KRAM or KREMER of Israel, Shmuel had a brother named Yisrael who was also a
single schoolteacher. Yehudit Lita (Volume 4) describes their murder
alongside their mother at the hands of the Lithuanians. According to Rabbi
Kreme, the brothers had a sister whose first name is unknown. She survived
the Shoah, came to the U.S. and married a man >from Slutsk. They had
children. I am trying to find either this survivor whose maiden name is
ZILBERMAN or SILVERMAN or her children or grandchildren.

The parents of Shmuel, Yisrael and their sister were Raicha and Eliezer
(Lazar) ZILBERMANof Girtagola. I believe that Lazar may have been related
to Izrael ZILBERMAN (perhaps a cousin). In 1879, Izrael was the assistant
to the Av Bet Din (Chief Rabbi) in Raiseiniai District for Girtagola. The
Rabbi, who was >from Jonava, was named Shmuel Hirsh EPSHTEYN (Halevy-Epstein;
descendants now known as LEVIN-EPSTEIN). The Rabbi's best friend Shmuel
ZILBERMAN of Girtagola (orginally >from Koenigsberg, Prussia) was my
great-greatgrandfather. Shmuel's daughter, Cyrella ZILBERMAN, married the
son of the Rabbi who was also a Rabbi. The Rabbi's daughter married a Rabbi
named GORDON. Cyrella ZILBERMAN and her husband, Rabbi LEVIN-EPSTEIN moved
to Sheffield, England where he was the Av Bet Din. This part of the family
tree is documented in Dr. Neil Rosenstein's book, The Lurie Legacy.

Thanks to JewishGen and LitvakSIG I have found the LEVIN-EPSTEIN descendants
in England and the US. Before it is too late I am trying to find either Lote
BER/BAR or her relatives. I am also trying to locate the Shoah survivor
whose name was ZILBERMAN before she came to the U.S. and married the man

from Slutsk. I know that she and her husband visited Rabbi and Mrs.Kremer

in Israel some years ago. Perhaps these names and stories will sound
familiar to someone's children or grandchildren. I am also trying to find
the descendants of the VINIK/VINNIK family of Girtagola. One of my
ZILBERMAN greatgreatuncles may have used the name VINIK for a while to avoid
conscription. In 1879 Izrael VINIK son of Iosel VINIK, "represented a
prayer school" in Girtagola. Does this mean he was a Melamed or an
administrator of the school? There were nine such representatives of the
prayer school listed that year.

One more point about Lote BER/BAR: She also gave testimony for a brother
named Alex bar Josef ALEXANDER and a sister Tzetzilla ALEXANDER both of
Berlin, Germany; a cousin Chaim KARNOVSKY (who was born in Raiseiniai in
1896 to Natan and Ester and became a merchant); an aunt Hene VINIKAITE
(Kheine VINIK), born in Girtagola in 1895 to Yisrael who was single and a
clothing store owner in Kelme where she died); and another cousin, Feivel
SHAPIRO (born in Lithuania in 1900, head of a Yeshiva in Belgium, who
married a woman named Khiena FLEISCHER with whom he had an 11 year old child
named Yehudit).

Alexandra Alznauer
San Francisco and Los Angeles, California
Lithuania: ZILBERMAN, ALEXANDER, LURIE, KARP/GARB, SNEIDER/SCHNEIDEROWITCH,
LEVIN-EPSTEIN/, IUDKOWSKY, COPLON, PLAGER - Prussia: ZILBERMAN, BLUME
[Berlin], SILVERBERG [Scharfenberg?, Berlin?] - Ukraine: NAYFACK/NEIFACH,
GARFIELD/GOTTLIEB - England: LICHTENSTEIN

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I posted a message like this last year. I am looking for two Submittesr of
Holocaust Testimony to Yad Vashem, their descendants or anyone who may be
related to or know anything about the people/families mentioned below. The
first submitter is named Lote BER or BAR. In 1955 she lived at King George
103 Street in Tel Aiv, Israel. She gave testimony about Shumel Hirsch
ZILBERMAN who was born in Girtagola (Girkalnis), Lithuania in 1887. Shmuel
was a single schoolteacher. According to another Submitter, Rabbi Azriel
KRAM or KREMER of Israel, Shmuel had a brother named Yisrael who was also a
single schoolteacher. Yehudit Lita (Volume 4) describes their murder
alongside their mother at the hands of the Lithuanians. According to Rabbi
Kreme, the brothers had a sister whose first name is unknown. She survived
the Shoah, came to the U.S. and married a man >from Slutsk. They had
children. I am trying to find either this survivor whose maiden name is
ZILBERMAN or SILVERMAN or her children or grandchildren.

The parents of Shmuel, Yisrael and their sister were Raicha and Eliezer
(Lazar) ZILBERMANof Girtagola. I believe that Lazar may have been related
to Izrael ZILBERMAN (perhaps a cousin). In 1879, Izrael was the assistant
to the Av Bet Din (Chief Rabbi) in Raiseiniai District for Girtagola. The
Rabbi, who was >from Jonava, was named Shmuel Hirsh EPSHTEYN (Halevy-Epstein;
descendants now known as LEVIN-EPSTEIN). The Rabbi's best friend Shmuel
ZILBERMAN of Girtagola (orginally >from Koenigsberg, Prussia) was my
great-greatgrandfather. Shmuel's daughter, Cyrella ZILBERMAN, married the
son of the Rabbi who was also a Rabbi. The Rabbi's daughter married a Rabbi
named GORDON. Cyrella ZILBERMAN and her husband, Rabbi LEVIN-EPSTEIN moved
to Sheffield, England where he was the Av Bet Din. This part of the family
tree is documented in Dr. Neil Rosenstein's book, The Lurie Legacy.

Thanks to JewishGen and LitvakSIG I have found the LEVIN-EPSTEIN descendants
in England and the US. Before it is too late I am trying to find either Lote
BER/BAR or her relatives. I am also trying to locate the Shoah survivor
whose name was ZILBERMAN before she came to the U.S. and married the man

from Slutsk. I know that she and her husband visited Rabbi and Mrs.Kremer

in Israel some years ago. Perhaps these names and stories will sound
familiar to someone's children or grandchildren. I am also trying to find
the descendants of the VINIK/VINNIK family of Girtagola. One of my
ZILBERMAN greatgreatuncles may have used the name VINIK for a while to avoid
conscription. In 1879 Izrael VINIK son of Iosel VINIK, "represented a
prayer school" in Girtagola. Does this mean he was a Melamed or an
administrator of the school? There were nine such representatives of the
prayer school listed that year.

One more point about Lote BER/BAR: She also gave testimony for a brother
named Alex bar Josef ALEXANDER and a sister Tzetzilla ALEXANDER both of
Berlin, Germany; a cousin Chaim KARNOVSKY (who was born in Raiseiniai in
1896 to Natan and Ester and became a merchant); an aunt Hene VINIKAITE
(Kheine VINIK), born in Girtagola in 1895 to Yisrael who was single and a
clothing store owner in Kelme where she died); and another cousin, Feivel
SHAPIRO (born in Lithuania in 1900, head of a Yeshiva in Belgium, who
married a woman named Khiena FLEISCHER with whom he had an 11 year old child
named Yehudit).

Alexandra Alznauer
San Francisco and Los Angeles, California
Lithuania: ZILBERMAN, ALEXANDER, LURIE, KARP/GARB, SNEIDER/SCHNEIDEROWITCH,
LEVIN-EPSTEIN/, IUDKOWSKY, COPLON, PLAGER - Prussia: ZILBERMAN, BLUME
[Berlin], SILVERBERG [Scharfenberg?, Berlin?] - Ukraine: NAYFACK/NEIFACH,
GARFIELD/GOTTLIEB - England: LICHTENSTEIN

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Can anyone tell me how I can order a Death Certificate of a relative
that passed away in Israel. Thanks very much for your help.

Fred Klein
adam1gs@adelphia.net

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Can anyone tell me how I can order a Death Certificate of a relative
that passed away in Israel. Thanks very much for your help.

Fred Klein
adam1gs@adelphia.net

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I am looking for biographical details of a famous surgeon by the name of
Dr. Theodor Gutmann of Panevezys.

Saul Issroff
saul@shaul.homechoice.co.uk

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I am looking for biographical details of a famous surgeon by the name of
Dr. Theodor Gutmann of Panevezys.

Saul Issroff
saul@shaul.homechoice.co.uk

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I have just distributed the fourth set of translated Kedainiai birth records
to qualified donors. This set spans the years 1879 through 1883 and totals
almost 700 birth records. We have now passed the midpoint of the birth
records translation challenge--26 years of records have already been
translated, proofed and distributed; the remaining 24 years shall be
completed by April 2006. After that we will begin translation of the
marriage records to be followed by divorce and death records. Our excellent
translator has committed to the long haul.

In today's post I would like to address a particular group of Keidan
researchers--those donors or potential donors who may feel left behind or
unappreciated. Admittedly, to date the fund-raising effort has focused
on contributors of $100 or more. The terms "qualified" and "eligible" donors
have decorated every appeal.

I am as much touched by, and grateful for, the $25 contribution >from the
starving student as by large donations >from our more affluent Keidaners.
Every dollar furthers the translation of our vital records. Please find your
comfortable level and support the project so that we may complete it wthin
a few years. Your response has been encouraging and has brought us where
we are, but there are still too many who have not yet participated in our
success.

I am offering two incentives to all Keidan researchers. You may contact me
privately with the surname(s) you are researching, and I will let you know
whether these surnames are represented in the birth records translated to
date. I have compiled a surname index >from the 26 years of translated birth
records.

The second incentive, "Adopt-a-Year," is offered only to $100+ donors. You
may select the year of a life-cycle event of one of your ancestors, and that
year will be given priority in the translation process of that category of
records (birth, marriage, divorce, death). This queue will be established
on a first-come basis.

Details for making your contribution to the Kedainiai Vital Records Project
are at the bottom of this Digest. If you wish any further information,
please contact me privately.

Olga Zabludoff
Kedainiai VRI Coordinator

I have just distributed the fourth set of translated Kedainiai birth records
to qualified donors. This set spans the years 1879 through 1883 and totals
almost 700 birth records. We have now passed the midpoint of the birth
records translation challenge--26 years of records have already been
translated, proofed and distributed; the remaining 24 years shall be
completed by April 2006. After that we will begin translation of the
marriage records to be followed by divorce and death records. Our excellent
translator has committed to the long haul.

In today's post I would like to address a particular group of Keidan
researchers--those donors or potential donors who may feel left behind or
unappreciated. Admittedly, to date the fund-raising effort has focused
on contributors of $100 or more. The terms "qualified" and "eligible" donors
have decorated every appeal.

I am as much touched by, and grateful for, the $25 contribution >from the
starving student as by large donations >from our more affluent Keidaners.
Every dollar furthers the translation of our vital records. Please find your
comfortable level and support the project so that we may complete it wthin
a few years. Your response has been encouraging and has brought us where
we are, but there are still too many who have not yet participated in our
success.

I am offering two incentives to all Keidan researchers. You may contact me
privately with the surname(s) you are researching, and I will let you know
whether these surnames are represented in the birth records translated to
date. I have compiled a surname index >from the 26 years of translated birth
records.

The second incentive, "Adopt-a-Year," is offered only to $100+ donors. You
may select the year of a life-cycle event of one of your ancestors, and that
year will be given priority in the translation process of that category of
records (birth, marriage, divorce, death). This queue will be established
on a first-come basis.

Details for making your contribution to the Kedainiai Vital Records Project
are at the bottom of this Digest. If you wish any further information,
please contact me privately.

Olga Zabludoff
Kedainiai VRI Coordinator

Many Romanian Jews immigrated to Montreal Canada. The language was the leading reason--French is similiar to Romanian. Also, the Canadian entry was easier and cheaper. Check the JGS-Montreal (http://www.gtrdata.com/jgs-montreal/) site for more info.

Mona Freedman Morris
Hurricane Wilma Country (we just got our power back)
Boca Raton FL

Many Romanian Jews immigrated to Montreal Canada. The language was the leading reason--French is similiar to Romanian. Also, the Canadian entry was easier and cheaper. Check the JGS-Montreal (http://www.gtrdata.com/jgs-montreal/) site for more info.

Mona Freedman Morris
Hurricane Wilma Country (we just got our power back)
Boca Raton FL

Re my request for translations for Yiddish (postcard), Russian (birth certificate)
and Hebrew (headstone).

A sincere thank you to all who generously attempted to translate the pictures I
posted on viewmate (#6983,6984 and 6985). It was a challenge and there was
substantial success.
Your efforts are much appreciated.


Pat Gilbert, Researcher #33857

Searching: ASOWITCH/ASOWICH/ASOVICH-Kremenchug,Poltava ->Canada, USA;
SCHKOLNICK/SCOLNICK - Kremenchug ->Argentina
BRESLOW/BRESLAVSKY- Ekaterineslav,Poltava;>New York
GILBERT/GIELBART/GELBARD - Opatow,Poland->New York
MARGOLIS - Minkovitz->Canada
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Has everyone checked out the new Collection Points on various Ukraine towns?
Deborah Glassman and the others are piecing together an amazing volume of data
very quickly. The pages for my ancestors' Yelisavetgrad / Elizavetgrod
/ Elizavetgrad are packed with photos, documents, etc.
http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/Kherson/Elizavetgrad%20Collection.htm

I also really like the chart of occupations for Ukrainian Jews that they are
compiling. http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/Occupational.htm

This, and things like the photo studio lists, will be hugely helpful once they get
enough data.

Ray Cannata (#63228)
Hillsborough, NJ

Searching names:
DASHEVSKY / DASHEWSKY, FULNEROW / FELZEROW, POBER / POBERESKY, RUBEL, SIEBEL
/ TSIBULEVSKY / SIEBELEWSKY, WEINER, TROTSKY of Elizavetgrad (Kirovograd),
Kherson, Ukraine
BRAVER, LIFSITZ / LIPSHITZ, KIRSCHNER / KIRSHNER / KIRZNER of Orlya / Orla,
Grodno, Belarus

Re my request for translations for Yiddish (postcard), Russian (birth certificate)
and Hebrew (headstone).

A sincere thank you to all who generously attempted to translate the pictures I
posted on viewmate (#6983,6984 and 6985). It was a challenge and there was
substantial success.
Your efforts are much appreciated.


Pat Gilbert, Researcher #33857

Searching: ASOWITCH/ASOWICH/ASOVICH-Kremenchug,Poltava ->Canada, USA;
SCHKOLNICK/SCOLNICK - Kremenchug ->Argentina
BRESLOW/BRESLAVSKY- Ekaterineslav,Poltava;>New York
GILBERT/GIELBART/GELBARD - Opatow,Poland->New York
MARGOLIS - Minkovitz->Canada
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MODERATOR'S NOTE: If you have been successful in your research, you may wish to
mark this success by making a financial contribution to the work of JewishGen. For
details of how you can support their work, please go to
www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity

Has everyone checked out the new Collection Points on various Ukraine towns?
Deborah Glassman and the others are piecing together an amazing volume of data
very quickly. The pages for my ancestors' Yelisavetgrad / Elizavetgrod
/ Elizavetgrad are packed with photos, documents, etc.
http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/Kherson/Elizavetgrad%20Collection.htm

I also really like the chart of occupations for Ukrainian Jews that they are
compiling. http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/Occupational.htm

This, and things like the photo studio lists, will be hugely helpful once they get
enough data.

Ray Cannata (#63228)
Hillsborough, NJ

Searching names:
DASHEVSKY / DASHEWSKY, FULNEROW / FELZEROW, POBER / POBERESKY, RUBEL, SIEBEL
/ TSIBULEVSKY / SIEBELEWSKY, WEINER, TROTSKY of Elizavetgrad (Kirovograd),
Kherson, Ukraine
BRAVER, LIFSITZ / LIPSHITZ, KIRSCHNER / KIRSHNER / KIRZNER of Orlya / Orla,
Grodno, Belarus

My attention has been drawn to this material >from the National Library of
Australia:

The National Library has digitised newspapers >from the 1840s >from NSW, Vic, Tas,
SA & London. There is a list at
http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/browselist.html
<http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/browselist.html>;

It includes the Voice of Jacob (Sydney 1842)
http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/1440334X.html
<http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/1440334X.html>;

The Shipping gazette and Sydney general trade list.
http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/14403897.html
<http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/14403897.html>;

Hazel Dakers, London UK

Researching: NORDEN (London & South Africa); HEIMANN (Luegde, Germany and
South Africa); GOLD (Zgierz and Lodz, Poland), BIRNBAUM (Zgierz and Lodz, Poland)

An article of interest...

"Hispanics Uncovering Roots as Inquisition's 'Hidden' Jews" Simon Romero
NY Times, October 29, 2005

www.nytimes.com/2005/10/29/national/29religion.html

Several paragraphs of the article focus on the use of DNA tests to demonstrate
Semitic ancestry.

Renee Steinig
RSteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us

Dear Genners,

Do you have knowledge of the following family?

Pinkus TOBIASZ (died before 1874) was married to a Dina BLUMENFELD- they lived in
Wloszczowa Poland.

I am only aware of 2 children (I am sure there were many others) - Chawa
Chana/Chana Chawa was born in 1853 and Herszlik was born in 1855.

Chana married a Dawid Zelik DANCYGER and Herszlik married a Laja WAYNBERG in 1874.

Any information on the Tobiasz family above or indeed of any other siblings and
their descendants would be gratefully appreciated.

Thank you.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)
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names and places of origin, they can always be added, but only **you** can keep
your own listings up to date.

My attention has been drawn to this material >from the National Library of
Australia:

The National Library has digitised newspapers >from the 1840s >from NSW, Vic, Tas,
SA & London. There is a list at
http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/browselist.html
<http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/browselist.html>;

It includes the Voice of Jacob (Sydney 1842)
http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/1440334X.html
<http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/1440334X.html>;

The Shipping gazette and Sydney general trade list.
http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/14403897.html
<http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/14403897.html>;

Hazel Dakers, London UK

Researching: NORDEN (London & South Africa); HEIMANN (Luegde, Germany and
South Africa); GOLD (Zgierz and Lodz, Poland), BIRNBAUM (Zgierz and Lodz, Poland)

An article of interest...

"Hispanics Uncovering Roots as Inquisition's 'Hidden' Jews" Simon Romero
NY Times, October 29, 2005

www.nytimes.com/2005/10/29/national/29religion.html

Several paragraphs of the article focus on the use of DNA tests to demonstrate
Semitic ancestry.

Renee Steinig
RSteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us

Dear Genners,

Do you have knowledge of the following family?

Pinkus TOBIASZ (died before 1874) was married to a Dina BLUMENFELD- they lived in
Wloszczowa Poland.

I am only aware of 2 children (I am sure there were many others) - Chawa
Chana/Chana Chawa was born in 1853 and Herszlik was born in 1855.

Chana married a Dawid Zelik DANCYGER and Herszlik married a Laja WAYNBERG in 1874.

Any information on the Tobiasz family above or indeed of any other siblings and
their descendants would be gratefully appreciated.

Thank you.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)
***
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Family Finder (JGFF) and family connections are being made more and more
frequently. If you have not already done so, please log onto
www.jewishgen.org/jgff and using the ENTER/MODIFY procedure enter and register
all the surnames of interest to your family research. As you learn about more
names and places of origin, they can always be added, but only **you** can keep
your own listings up to date.