Doug

If you look at this site: http://www.photolondon.org.uk/directory.htm
you will find quite a bit of information about
London photographers.

At the same address as "your" Mr. Olley is this entry -

Olley, Charles Richard
110 Southgate Rd, Kingsland Rd. N.
1903-08-
194 New Kent Road S.E.
1907-08-

Maybe M.B. Olley was his brother? Anyway, >from the lady's dress, it
would seem that this was taken at the beginning of the 20th century.

Jill Anderson
London UK

Doug

If you look at this site: http://www.photolondon.org.uk/directory.htm
you will find quite a bit of information about
London photographers.

At the same address as "your" Mr. Olley is this entry -

Olley, Charles Richard
110 Southgate Rd, Kingsland Rd. N.
1903-08-
194 New Kent Road S.E.
1907-08-

Maybe M.B. Olley was his brother? Anyway, >from the lady's dress, it
would seem that this was taken at the beginning of the 20th century.

Jill Anderson
London UK

The deadline for submissions of proposals for 2006 International Association
of Jewish Genealogical Societies' Conference is next Thursday, December 1,
2005.

Submissions should be made at the Conference website at
http://www.jgsny2006.org/call.cfm

All abstract submissions must be submitted via our on-line abstract module
process. E-mail submittals will not be accepted.

Possible presentation categories are listed below:

Computer Training Workshops/Eastern and Central European research/Genetics
and DNA Research/Holocaust research/Immigration, naturalization and
migration/Eretz Israel, pre and post 1948/Methodology/Metropolitan New York
City and New York State research/Non-European research (e.g. India,
China)/Rabbinical research/Repositories/Sephardic research/South and Central
American research/Technology and Internet resources/United States/North
American research/Western European research/Yiddish theater/Tin Pan Alley

The decision to accept a submission will be heavily weighted toward
presentations not given at previous IAJGS Conferences, that provide specific
research methodology and that include specific information for researchers
to replicate the success of the presenter in acquiring information. Sessions
will be one hour and fifteen minutes, with the last 15 minutes reserved for
questions and answers.

Proposal Deadline - December 1, 2005. Speakers will be notified no later
than February 1, 2006. Handout material/resource material, due March 1,
2006, is required for each presentation and will be included in the syllabus
distributed to all conference registrants. Further details of the handout
material requirements will be provided upon acceptance of lecture.

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
2006 Conference Program Committee Chair
gloria@jgsny2006.org

The deadline for submissions of proposals for 2006 International Association
of Jewish Genealogical Societies' Conference is next Thursday, December 1,
2005.

Submissions should be made at the Conference website at
http://www.jgsny2006.org/call.cfm

All abstract submissions must be submitted via our on-line abstract module
process. E-mail submittals will not be accepted.

Possible presentation categories are listed below:

Computer Training Workshops/Eastern and Central European research/Genetics
and DNA Research/Holocaust research/Immigration, naturalization and
migration/Eretz Israel, pre and post 1948/Methodology/Metropolitan New York
City and New York State research/Non-European research (e.g. India,
China)/Rabbinical research/Repositories/Sephardic research/South and Central
American research/Technology and Internet resources/United States/North
American research/Western European research/Yiddish theater/Tin Pan Alley

The decision to accept a submission will be heavily weighted toward
presentations not given at previous IAJGS Conferences, that provide specific
research methodology and that include specific information for researchers
to replicate the success of the presenter in acquiring information. Sessions
will be one hour and fifteen minutes, with the last 15 minutes reserved for
questions and answers.

Proposal Deadline - December 1, 2005. Speakers will be notified no later
than February 1, 2006. Handout material/resource material, due March 1,
2006, is required for each presentation and will be included in the syllabus
distributed to all conference registrants. Further details of the handout
material requirements will be provided upon acceptance of lecture.

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
2006 Conference Program Committee Chair
gloria@jgsny2006.org

1. Ester Rochel (?) Kuznetsov (?)

No living person, that I know of, knows what my paternal grandmothers maiden name
was. >from notes that my Mother took years ago I've learned that she was from
Belarus, Minsk Gubernia, somewhere near Babroisk. Unfortunately the only other
info I have is >from her headstone...it says that she was the daughter of
Rav Yacov and that she was born in 1896. If anyone out there thinks that this rings
a bell or that we may be related please contact me.

I thought that I had an entry >from ellis islands database which may be her but
there are several inconsistencies. It still may be her but I really have no where
to confirm any of this yet.
It seems that her father was living when she came to this country but stories have
it that her mother and sisters were killed in a pogrom.

Thank you for your indulgence and any help you may be able to give.

Bill Green - Cherry Hill, NJ
MODERATOR NOTE: Don't forget to search the JewishGen Family Finder where you will
find several researchers. Add your own names/towns. It's www.jewishgen.org/jgff

Kustnesova, Kuznetsov, Smith - Belarus , Babroisk, Minsk Gubernia
Green,Grun, Grin - Illoki, Lithuania
Green, Grun, Grin - Latvia,Kandava, Kreslava, Lasdewitz (?)

1. Ester Rochel (?) Kuznetsov (?)

No living person, that I know of, knows what my paternal grandmothers maiden name
was. >from notes that my Mother took years ago I've learned that she was from
Belarus, Minsk Gubernia, somewhere near Babroisk. Unfortunately the only other
info I have is >from her headstone...it says that she was the daughter of
Rav Yacov and that she was born in 1896. If anyone out there thinks that this rings
a bell or that we may be related please contact me.

I thought that I had an entry >from ellis islands database which may be her but
there are several inconsistencies. It still may be her but I really have no where
to confirm any of this yet.
It seems that her father was living when she came to this country but stories have
it that her mother and sisters were killed in a pogrom.

Thank you for your indulgence and any help you may be able to give.

Bill Green - Cherry Hill, NJ
MODERATOR NOTE: Don't forget to search the JewishGen Family Finder where you will
find several researchers. Add your own names/towns. It's www.jewishgen.org/jgff

Kustnesova, Kuznetsov, Smith - Belarus , Babroisk, Minsk Gubernia
Green,Grun, Grin - Illoki, Lithuania
Green, Grun, Grin - Latvia,Kandava, Kreslava, Lasdewitz (?)

I'm searching for 2 siblings of my grandfather Max (Motus) EPSTEIN.who was
born about 1975 in Grodno Gubernia, in or around Dzatlava (formerly Zhetl).His
brother was named Isaac and his sister was named Freide. The only info we have
is that Friede (married name unk) was widowed early and left with 3 small
children. Their father was Avraham Eliezer EPSTEIN (son of Zev Wolf Halevi
EPSTEIN). He had 5 children with his first wife Tsilka. Morris (settled in
London),Bertha ALPERT, Sarah FISHKOWITZ, Isaac and Freide. The rest settled in
the NY/NJ area. With his second wife Rachel/Ruchel Leah he had 2 children My
grandfather Max who settled in the NY/NJ area and Rose BRISKIN (husbands name
unk) who went to Cuba. She moved to Miami in the late 1940s or early 1950s.

from Miami they eventually moved to California. If anyone has any info about

Isaac, Freide or any of the family please contact me
Martin Epstein
Louisville, KY.
meepstein@insightbb.com

I'm searching for 2 siblings of my grandfather Max (Motus) EPSTEIN.who was
born about 1975 in Grodno Gubernia, in or around Dzatlava (formerly Zhetl).His
brother was named Isaac and his sister was named Freide. The only info we have
is that Friede (married name unk) was widowed early and left with 3 small
children. Their father was Avraham Eliezer EPSTEIN (son of Zev Wolf Halevi
EPSTEIN). He had 5 children with his first wife Tsilka. Morris (settled in
London),Bertha ALPERT, Sarah FISHKOWITZ, Isaac and Freide. The rest settled in
the NY/NJ area. With his second wife Rachel/Ruchel Leah he had 2 children My
grandfather Max who settled in the NY/NJ area and Rose BRISKIN (husbands name
unk) who went to Cuba. She moved to Miami in the late 1940s or early 1950s.

from Miami they eventually moved to California. If anyone has any info about

Isaac, Freide or any of the family please contact me
Martin Epstein
Louisville, KY.
meepstein@insightbb.com

I have been happily ignoring the discussion on naming practices until I
remembered that my father's name was Beryl and my brother's Beryl David (he
is always called David, however). Both my parents were children and
grandchildren of rabbis but were totally nonpractising and nonbelieving.
It seems possible that they were cocking a snook at practices which they
scorned; and I wonder whether any other families who named a child after a
living parent or grandparent were doing the same thing.

Ellie Weld
Twickenham, Middlesex, England
(formerly Cleveland, Ohio)

Gerald commented :

The one aspect regarding the 'Sarah bas Sarah' question that does not
seem to have been considered is the possibility that the child was named
after her Mother, who having died in childbirth, had her name passed to
the next generation.

No, in this instance Sarah b. Paris 1892, daughter of Sarah b.Vilna
1866, was the second of three children. Her Mother, also known as Sarah,
died in 1904, two years after the birth of her third child.

So, in this case, obviously Sarah was probably not named after her Mother
or either of her Grandmothers, but may have been named after another
unknown relative. Who knows! One of these unanswerable puzzles we all
come across in our research.

Thanks anyway.

Lorraine Bertelsen
Boho, Downunder

I have been happily ignoring the discussion on naming practices until I
remembered that my father's name was Beryl and my brother's Beryl David (he
is always called David, however). Both my parents were children and
grandchildren of rabbis but were totally nonpractising and nonbelieving.
It seems possible that they were cocking a snook at practices which they
scorned; and I wonder whether any other families who named a child after a
living parent or grandparent were doing the same thing.

Ellie Weld
Twickenham, Middlesex, England
(formerly Cleveland, Ohio)

Gerald commented :

The one aspect regarding the 'Sarah bas Sarah' question that does not
seem to have been considered is the possibility that the child was named
after her Mother, who having died in childbirth, had her name passed to
the next generation.

No, in this instance Sarah b. Paris 1892, daughter of Sarah b.Vilna
1866, was the second of three children. Her Mother, also known as Sarah,
died in 1904, two years after the birth of her third child.

So, in this case, obviously Sarah was probably not named after her Mother
or either of her Grandmothers, but may have been named after another
unknown relative. Who knows! One of these unanswerable puzzles we all
come across in our research.

Thanks anyway.

Lorraine Bertelsen
Boho, Downunder

I would like to ask for contact people linked with Brzesko (Briegel) in
Galicia. I plan to conduct some academic research on the history of Jewish
community in this town.

Thank you!

Jerzy Mazur
Brandeis University

I would like to ask for contact people linked with Brzesko (Briegel) in
Galicia. I plan to conduct some academic research on the history of Jewish
community in this town.

Thank you!

Jerzy Mazur
Brandeis University

Hi,

I am looking for my grandpa's cousin, Ruta (Ruth) BALSAM, or her
descendants. Her maiden name was MILLER.
Her mother's name was Bluma (JACUBOWICZ) Miller.
I think she was born in Warsaw, Poland and immigrated to the US
(I think New York) after WWII.
I have new updates that the other part of my family was >from Piotrkow,
so everything is possible.

I hope any of this sounds familiar to anyone.

Thanks in advance,

Dana Rosenfeld,
Giv'at - Shmu'el, Israel
Searching for:
BRANDYS - Piotrkow/Warsaw,
JACUBOWICZ - Warsaw(?),
BALSAM-Poland/NY

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.

Hi,

I am looking for my grandpa's cousin, Ruta (Ruth) BALSAM, or her
descendants. Her maiden name was MILLER.
Her mother's name was Bluma (JACUBOWICZ) Miller.
I think she was born in Warsaw, Poland and immigrated to the US
(I think New York) after WWII.
I have new updates that the other part of my family was >from Piotrkow,
so everything is possible.

I hope any of this sounds familiar to anyone.

Thanks in advance,

Dana Rosenfeld,
Giv'at - Shmu'el, Israel
Searching for:
BRANDYS - Piotrkow/Warsaw,
JACUBOWICZ - Warsaw(?),
BALSAM-Poland/NY

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.

My grandfather Isadore KURTZ sent a photo to his brother which was signed
Isaac KURCHICER, does anyone know if this name has a meaning ? Does it
appear in anyone's tree, we were unaware of the name change.
Nadine CHERNEY Brown wcayf@nccn.net

My grandfather Isadore KURTZ sent a photo to his brother which was signed
Isaac KURCHICER, does anyone know if this name has a meaning ? Does it
appear in anyone's tree, we were unaware of the name change.
Nadine CHERNEY Brown wcayf@nccn.net

We are looking for a town or village in Ukraine that sounds like Sitnija.
Various family members say the name differently. I have also heard, Shittinya
and Shitneya.

The only other clues I have is that it may be near or related to Jomel and
Sloboda, all supposedly in Ukraine, but I have not been able to find any of
the above.

Marjorie Goldberg

We are looking for a town or village in Ukraine that sounds like Sitnija.
Various family members say the name differently. I have also heard, Shittinya
and Shitneya.

The only other clues I have is that it may be near or related to Jomel and
Sloboda, all supposedly in Ukraine, but I have not been able to find any of
the above.

Marjorie Goldberg