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Re: Non-immigrant Alien - in Ellis Island Database #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

It means that the alien intends to return to his permanent place of
residency outside the US. (i.e we have someone on a round trip journey, not
an immigrant) Since the "last permanent residence" information was
collected for statistical purposes to understand where the new US population
was coming from, it was irrelevant in the case of this person, who did not
intend to add to our population.

--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

"Howie Axelrod" <highwind1@...> wrote

What is meant by this term when used in the "last permanent resident"
field of the manifest?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Non-immigrant Alien - in Ellis Island Database #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

It means that the alien intends to return to his permanent place of
residency outside the US. (i.e we have someone on a round trip journey, not
an immigrant) Since the "last permanent residence" information was
collected for statistical purposes to understand where the new US population
was coming from, it was irrelevant in the case of this person, who did not
intend to add to our population.

--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

"Howie Axelrod" <highwind1@...> wrote

What is meant by this term when used in the "last permanent resident"
field of the manifest?


Shtetl or Town Location: Eruiska, Roumania #general

Albert Brookenthal <albert@...>
 

Dear JewishGenners: I have a Death Certificate for my Greatgrandmother, Eva
(Priva)(SCHEIM) BRUCKENTHAL/BROOKENTHAL. The name of the Shetl or Town she
is >from found on the Certificate is Eruiska, Roumania. As best as I can make
out the writing the spelling is "Eruiska". Is anybody familiar with this
name and location in Roumania?? Please forward personally. Thank you.
Albert BROOKENTHAL
Toledo, Ohio - USA
albert@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Shtetl or Town Location: Eruiska, Roumania #general

Albert Brookenthal <albert@...>
 

Dear JewishGenners: I have a Death Certificate for my Greatgrandmother, Eva
(Priva)(SCHEIM) BRUCKENTHAL/BROOKENTHAL. The name of the Shetl or Town she
is >from found on the Certificate is Eruiska, Roumania. As best as I can make
out the writing the spelling is "Eruiska". Is anybody familiar with this
name and location in Roumania?? Please forward personally. Thank you.
Albert BROOKENTHAL
Toledo, Ohio - USA
albert@...


Re: Name Changes - Legal and Other #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins (and Sam),

The name change process has changed only slightly in the U.S. over the
past hundred years. What has changed is the percent of time it has been
formally undertaken, which I believe is due to the declining number of
informal name changes. Anecdotally judging >from the ledger books in which
name changes are still recorded in two courthouses of New York State
Supreme Court of New York County (60 Center Street and 111 Center Street
in Manhattan), there hasn't been a huge change in the numbers of name
changes per year, even over a century. But there probably has been a
change in the numbers of informal name changes. Immigrants nowadays are
more likely to keep their names, whether it's due to ethnic pride, less
need to assimilate, or more acceptance.

A hundred years ago, if somebody walked into a bank with $10 to open an
account, the bank gladly accepted the money, filled out the paperwork, and
issued a receipt and bankbook (or whatever was used); any name could be
used for the account. Nowadays, if a person wants to deposit $10,000,
they have to show proof of identity and address, and their social security
number and first grade report card is checked. It's not easy to open an
account with a name that's not yours, even if everything else is correct,
although it can be done with some planning. Same for buying a house,
renting an apartment, etc.

The name change process varies >from state to state, but is usually a
variation of this: the person files a petition with a court requesting
that they be permitted to change their name >from x to y. (The petition
states that the name change is not being done to avoid crimes, debts,
alimony, tax or other payments, and a birth certificate may be required as
evidence that the correct person is doing it.) After the petition is
verified, a court order is issued to change the name, the petitioner files
the court order with the county clerk, and a notice is published in a
newspaper with a circulation in the local area. Finally, an affidavit of
publication is filed with the county clerk, who records the name change.
(For New York State, see
http://www.namechangelaw.com/states/ny/newyork.htm)

Note that this process is time-consuming and costs a few dollars in
notary and court fees that our immigrant ancestors were unlikely to be
able to spare. If it was just as easy but cheaper, it is highly likely
that Uncle Moische simply started to call himself Morris, and that was the
way he changed his name. Of course, when there's no documentation, it's
impossible to prove or say that names were informally changed so-and-so
percent of the time. But after learning which names do not require any
change >from another language to English, it is fair to say that not a
single person named Morris was ever born in Poland or Russia. German is
linguistically closer to English, and one has to be more careful about
equivalent names there.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Name Changes - Legal and Other #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins (and Sam),

The name change process has changed only slightly in the U.S. over the
past hundred years. What has changed is the percent of time it has been
formally undertaken, which I believe is due to the declining number of
informal name changes. Anecdotally judging >from the ledger books in which
name changes are still recorded in two courthouses of New York State
Supreme Court of New York County (60 Center Street and 111 Center Street
in Manhattan), there hasn't been a huge change in the numbers of name
changes per year, even over a century. But there probably has been a
change in the numbers of informal name changes. Immigrants nowadays are
more likely to keep their names, whether it's due to ethnic pride, less
need to assimilate, or more acceptance.

A hundred years ago, if somebody walked into a bank with $10 to open an
account, the bank gladly accepted the money, filled out the paperwork, and
issued a receipt and bankbook (or whatever was used); any name could be
used for the account. Nowadays, if a person wants to deposit $10,000,
they have to show proof of identity and address, and their social security
number and first grade report card is checked. It's not easy to open an
account with a name that's not yours, even if everything else is correct,
although it can be done with some planning. Same for buying a house,
renting an apartment, etc.

The name change process varies >from state to state, but is usually a
variation of this: the person files a petition with a court requesting
that they be permitted to change their name >from x to y. (The petition
states that the name change is not being done to avoid crimes, debts,
alimony, tax or other payments, and a birth certificate may be required as
evidence that the correct person is doing it.) After the petition is
verified, a court order is issued to change the name, the petitioner files
the court order with the county clerk, and a notice is published in a
newspaper with a circulation in the local area. Finally, an affidavit of
publication is filed with the county clerk, who records the name change.
(For New York State, see
http://www.namechangelaw.com/states/ny/newyork.htm)

Note that this process is time-consuming and costs a few dollars in
notary and court fees that our immigrant ancestors were unlikely to be
able to spare. If it was just as easy but cheaper, it is highly likely
that Uncle Moische simply started to call himself Morris, and that was the
way he changed his name. Of course, when there's no documentation, it's
impossible to prove or say that names were informally changed so-and-so
percent of the time. But after learning which names do not require any
change >from another language to English, it is fair to say that not a
single person named Morris was ever born in Poland or Russia. German is
linguistically closer to English, and one has to be more careful about
equivalent names there.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


Re: National Archives online database #general

Zev Griner <zgriner@...>
 

The proper link is: http://aad.archives.gov/aad/title-list.jsp
Click on the People link, then on one of the titles listed.

Zev Griner

Hi.. I found another database on-line that may be helpful. Among the
databases are World War 2 Enlistment Records. There are also other
databases >from Korean and Vietnam conflicts. It is aad.archives.gov


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: National Archives online database #general

Zev Griner <zgriner@...>
 

The proper link is: http://aad.archives.gov/aad/title-list.jsp
Click on the People link, then on one of the titles listed.

Zev Griner

Hi.. I found another database on-line that may be helpful. Among the
databases are World War 2 Enlistment Records. There are also other
databases >from Korean and Vietnam conflicts. It is aad.archives.gov


NYC Accommodation Advise Needed for 2006 IAJGS conference #general

Robert Zavos <rzavos@...>
 

I was wondering if any New Yorkers could give some advise on accommodations
for next years IAJGS conference. Although the conference hotel rate is
terrific compared to rack rates and every discount Website I have checked,
it is still quite pricey [http://www.jgsny2006.org/hotel.cfm] and I have a
feeling that taxes, parking, and food will bring conference costs to very
high levels for many non-commuting attendees. Are there any other areas in
the NYC area with clean, safe, more reasonably priced accomodations with
parking that could be reached by convenient public transportation. I guess
this might be a pretty tough question to answer in a positive manner but I
thought I would at least ask the question now since registration opens next
month. I suspect even these hotels rates may not be available very long and
we will be back well over $300/day quite easily. Any specific names and
places would be especially welcome.

Robert Zavos
Pittsburgh PA USA
researching Zawoznik (Ratzki, Suwalki) Szupazki/Siff (Sejne, Suwalki),
Pervin (Berdichev), Menzer (Romania)

MODERATOR NOTE: Recommendations for businesses should be sent privately,
but general travel advice is welcome. We expect a new conference mailing
list to be created later on.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NYC Accommodation Advise Needed for 2006 IAJGS conference #general

Robert Zavos <rzavos@...>
 

I was wondering if any New Yorkers could give some advise on accommodations
for next years IAJGS conference. Although the conference hotel rate is
terrific compared to rack rates and every discount Website I have checked,
it is still quite pricey [http://www.jgsny2006.org/hotel.cfm] and I have a
feeling that taxes, parking, and food will bring conference costs to very
high levels for many non-commuting attendees. Are there any other areas in
the NYC area with clean, safe, more reasonably priced accomodations with
parking that could be reached by convenient public transportation. I guess
this might be a pretty tough question to answer in a positive manner but I
thought I would at least ask the question now since registration opens next
month. I suspect even these hotels rates may not be available very long and
we will be back well over $300/day quite easily. Any specific names and
places would be especially welcome.

Robert Zavos
Pittsburgh PA USA
researching Zawoznik (Ratzki, Suwalki) Szupazki/Siff (Sejne, Suwalki),
Pervin (Berdichev), Menzer (Romania)

MODERATOR NOTE: Recommendations for businesses should be sent privately,
but general travel advice is welcome. We expect a new conference mailing
list to be created later on.


Re: National Archives online database #general

robert fraser <robertandginafraser@...>
 

Dear All -

Can I make a plea (not for the first time) for posters to keep in mind that
the List messages are read by thousands of people in countries the world
over. They don't all live in the USA and don't all know what "national
archives" might refer to.

Thank you.

Shabbat shalom

Robert W Fraser
Dianella, Western Australia
robertandginafraser@...

-----Original Message-----
From: sgootman@... [mailto:sgootman@...]
Subject: National Archives online database

Hi.. I found another database on-line that may be helpful. Among the
databases are World War 2 Enlistment Records. There are also other databases
from Korean and Vietnam conflicts. It is aad.archives.gov
I found it confusing at first when I got the info on 3 of my uncles but
stay with it if you find someone.

Sheila Gootman
Miller Place NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: National Archives online database #general

robert fraser <robertandginafraser@...>
 

Dear All -

Can I make a plea (not for the first time) for posters to keep in mind that
the List messages are read by thousands of people in countries the world
over. They don't all live in the USA and don't all know what "national
archives" might refer to.

Thank you.

Shabbat shalom

Robert W Fraser
Dianella, Western Australia
robertandginafraser@...

-----Original Message-----
From: sgootman@... [mailto:sgootman@...]
Subject: National Archives online database

Hi.. I found another database on-line that may be helpful. Among the
databases are World War 2 Enlistment Records. There are also other databases
from Korean and Vietnam conflicts. It is aad.archives.gov
I found it confusing at first when I got the info on 3 of my uncles but
stay with it if you find someone.

Sheila Gootman
Miller Place NY


Rolf KOENIGSBUCH-Royal Army Pay Corps-UK #unitedkingdom

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners and Siggers,
I continue my search after the KOENIGSBUCH brothers
from Hamburg who were on the Kindertransport.
I just found out >from the British Army Personnel in
Glasgow that Rolf Simon Koenigsbuch(b. 1929)served in
the Royal Army Pay Corps and was discharged in 1953.
He served in Malaya.
I wonder whether any of the British Genners served in
the RAPC in those years and remembers him.
I wrote already to AJEX and they couldn't help.I wrote
to the RAPC Association and am waiting for an answer.
I have Rolf's testimony which was filed in 1955 at the
Wiener Library.
I assume that he lives in the USA but all my searches
there did not produce him,so far.
Any idea??
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


Re: Suicide and Existing Archival Records #unitedkingdom

Peter Glass <monad1@...>
 

One point arising >from this discussion is the question of coroners' inquests.

The verdict of the inquest for all unnatural deaths, including suicides,
should be recorded on the death certificate in the place of the doctor's
certification.

We also know that the full records of 90% of the inquest cases in London
were weeded out and destroyed a few decades ago by the predecessor of the
London Metropolitan Archive. Apparently the remaining 10% are more or less
a random sample and not a selection.

While replying to Larry it occurred to me that there may have some level of
indexing to the original collection and it could be rather useful if that
survives in any form.
Has anyone worked on these who might know?

~ Peter Glass, London ~

=

At 21:48 06/09/05 -0400, Larry wrote:
>
Hi, I have two sets of questions that I would appreciate some help
with. The first concerns the reporting and recording of suicides in
England at the beginning of the 20th century. According to my family's
oral history, my grandfather MORRIS MILLER's first wife ALLKA committed
suicide. >snip<

<end quote |


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Rolf KOENIGSBUCH-Royal Army Pay Corps-UK #unitedkingdom

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners and Siggers,
I continue my search after the KOENIGSBUCH brothers
from Hamburg who were on the Kindertransport.
I just found out >from the British Army Personnel in
Glasgow that Rolf Simon Koenigsbuch(b. 1929)served in
the Royal Army Pay Corps and was discharged in 1953.
He served in Malaya.
I wonder whether any of the British Genners served in
the RAPC in those years and remembers him.
I wrote already to AJEX and they couldn't help.I wrote
to the RAPC Association and am waiting for an answer.
I have Rolf's testimony which was filed in 1955 at the
Wiener Library.
I assume that he lives in the USA but all my searches
there did not produce him,so far.
Any idea??
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: Suicide and Existing Archival Records #unitedkingdom

Peter Glass <monad1@...>
 

One point arising >from this discussion is the question of coroners' inquests.

The verdict of the inquest for all unnatural deaths, including suicides,
should be recorded on the death certificate in the place of the doctor's
certification.

We also know that the full records of 90% of the inquest cases in London
were weeded out and destroyed a few decades ago by the predecessor of the
London Metropolitan Archive. Apparently the remaining 10% are more or less
a random sample and not a selection.

While replying to Larry it occurred to me that there may have some level of
indexing to the original collection and it could be rather useful if that
survives in any form.
Has anyone worked on these who might know?

~ Peter Glass, London ~

=

At 21:48 06/09/05 -0400, Larry wrote:
>
Hi, I have two sets of questions that I would appreciate some help
with. The first concerns the reporting and recording of suicides in
England at the beginning of the 20th century. According to my family's
oral history, my grandfather MORRIS MILLER's first wife ALLKA committed
suicide. >snip<

<end quote |


Searching for WOULFERT family #france

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

I'm looking for informations concerning a family named WOULFERT, who
was hidden in Cassis (France) during WWII. Among them was a Tatiana
WOULFERT born around 1930. Any information would be welcome.
--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


French SIG #France Searching for WOULFERT family #france

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

I'm looking for informations concerning a family named WOULFERT, who
was hidden in Cassis (France) during WWII. Among them was a Tatiana
WOULFERT born around 1930. Any information would be welcome.
--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


Blog post on Galicia links #galicia

Judy Keiner <J.C.Keiner@...>
 

Dear Galizia siggers

I've started a blog, and two of the posts are about my Galicia family
research. So, in case it helps anyone else make links, here they are:

http://adloyada.typepad.com/adloyada/2005/09/unpacking_my_fa.html

(mainly related to Kanczuga roots)

and

http://adloyada.typepad.com/adloyada/2005/08/on_not_believin.html

(mainly related to Sadowa Wisznia (Sudovaya Vishnaya) roots

Judy Keiner

FROMMER, METH, ZELLERKRAUT, EISNER, GRIER, ZWANZIGER (Kanczuga & Krakow)

GUTTMAN, RAAB, FRIESNER (Sadowa-Wisznia)


Judy Keiner

in London, England


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Blog post on Galicia links #galicia

Judy Keiner <J.C.Keiner@...>
 

Dear Galizia siggers

I've started a blog, and two of the posts are about my Galicia family
research. So, in case it helps anyone else make links, here they are:

http://adloyada.typepad.com/adloyada/2005/09/unpacking_my_fa.html

(mainly related to Kanczuga roots)

and

http://adloyada.typepad.com/adloyada/2005/08/on_not_believin.html

(mainly related to Sadowa Wisznia (Sudovaya Vishnaya) roots

Judy Keiner

FROMMER, METH, ZELLERKRAUT, EISNER, GRIER, ZWANZIGER (Kanczuga & Krakow)

GUTTMAN, RAAB, FRIESNER (Sadowa-Wisznia)


Judy Keiner

in London, England