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Mt. Sinai Cemetery, New York City Area #general

Joseph Hirschfield
 

I have obtained a New York City Death Certificate for 1911 which shows a relative
was buried at Mount Sinai Cemetery. However, I cannot locate that cemetery in the
New York City area. Does anyone know if Mt. Sinai has been renamed or still
exists?

Joe Hirschfield
Portage, MI
MINIEWITSKI, TOBIASZ - Brest Litovsk - Belarus
HIRSCHFELD, LINDBAUM - Skwarzawa, Glinany, Sielec Bienkow - Galicia


Losice , Poland . #general

Viktor Lewin
 

If you have any information relating to the Jewish history of Losice, Poland
please contact me .
Thank you .
Viktor Lewin
Winnipeg, Manitoba
***
MODERATOR NOTE: Jewishgen has a wealth of information on Losice:
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/losice/losice.html
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/surnames/losice.htm
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/losice/lospic000.html
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/pinkas_poland/pol7_00280b.html


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mt. Sinai Cemetery, New York City Area #general

Joseph Hirschfield
 

I have obtained a New York City Death Certificate for 1911 which shows a relative
was buried at Mount Sinai Cemetery. However, I cannot locate that cemetery in the
New York City area. Does anyone know if Mt. Sinai has been renamed or still
exists?

Joe Hirschfield
Portage, MI
MINIEWITSKI, TOBIASZ - Brest Litovsk - Belarus
HIRSCHFELD, LINDBAUM - Skwarzawa, Glinany, Sielec Bienkow - Galicia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Losice , Poland . #general

Viktor Lewin
 

If you have any information relating to the Jewish history of Losice, Poland
please contact me .
Thank you .
Viktor Lewin
Winnipeg, Manitoba
***
MODERATOR NOTE: Jewishgen has a wealth of information on Losice:
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/losice/losice.html
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/surnames/losice.htm
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/losice/lospic000.html
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/pinkas_poland/pol7_00280b.html


Re: BLOCH or BLIOKH #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Irene K." wrote

The family name BLOKH, the last letter is "X" in Russian could be spelled as
BLOCH (old translation rules). BLIOKH is rather unusual spelling. I think the
best is to write to the translator or project coordinator and to ask for
original record, if possible.

I do not see anything unusual in Blokh or Bliokh spelling.

And the advice to write for the Russian originals would not accomplish too much
since record is written in Cyrillic, something like: "b^ox"

One of the earlier Soviet cinematographer ("Shanghai document", 1928) name is
spelled in the literature as Yakov Blyokh. Names have been distorted due to Latin
to Cyrillic back to Latin transliterations.

Very similar problems are encountered while translating Hebrew or Yiddish texts of
the Yzkor Books to English. Pity that the authors of the Yzkor Books did not
provide Latin spelling index of the surnames listed in the text.

Folks behind the Yad vaShem records have realized this problem, and all submission
to the Registry required to provide Latin surname spelling. Similarly, Pinkas
Hakehilot include the original spelling index of all shtetls listed.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB., Canada


BLIOKH v. BLOCH #general

David Kravitz
 

What is in the spelling of a name? Not a lot when immigrants came >from eastern
Europe to the English-speaking west, it would seem. Whilst BlOCH would appear to
be the common spelling, my partner's maiden name was BLOGH and she was born in
Ireland. A lake in Scotland is a loch but the same pronunciation in Ireland is
spelt Lough. An Irish immigration officer hearing Bloch could easily record the
name as Blogh.

My great uncle Abraham KRAVITZ was born in Sislewich, Belorus and came to
Liverpool and later, Southport. His son, Isaac, spelled his surname CRAVITZ, as
did a different branch of the family in Ireland. In searching for family, use
soundex rather than inflexibility of spelling.

David Kravitz
Netanya, Israel


Re: NYC Jewish Cemeteries #general

Peregrine Maitland <273589roots@...>
 

There are many Jewish cemeteries in the NY city borough of Queens and still more
in the surrounding NY metropolitan area, any one of which might be the place of
your grandfather's interment. Rather than pursuing this on the basis of where your
grandfather passed away, you should look at the possibility of his being
associated with a landsmanshaft or health, welfare, burial association. Such
associations were often formed on the basis of a town your father emigrated from,
a temple he belonged to, etc. If he was a member of such an organization, that
would point you to the correct cemetery or a few cemeteries, since landsmanshaften
often purchased sections in multiple cemeteries.

For a list of landsmanshaften and a list of Jewish cemeteries in Queens and the NY
metropolitan area, see http://www.jgsny.org/

Peregrine Maitland
273589roots@...
To reply, delete all numeric characters >from the return address given.


"dennis" <dennisj@...> wrote

The brother of my grandfather passed away in 1935 in Richmond Hill, NY. What are
the most likely cemetaries in the area that he would be interned? Since I am not
a New Yorker, I would appreciate your advice.

Dennis Allon, Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: BLOCH or BLIOKH #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Irene K." wrote

The family name BLOKH, the last letter is "X" in Russian could be spelled as
BLOCH (old translation rules). BLIOKH is rather unusual spelling. I think the
best is to write to the translator or project coordinator and to ask for
original record, if possible.

I do not see anything unusual in Blokh or Bliokh spelling.

And the advice to write for the Russian originals would not accomplish too much
since record is written in Cyrillic, something like: "b^ox"

One of the earlier Soviet cinematographer ("Shanghai document", 1928) name is
spelled in the literature as Yakov Blyokh. Names have been distorted due to Latin
to Cyrillic back to Latin transliterations.

Very similar problems are encountered while translating Hebrew or Yiddish texts of
the Yzkor Books to English. Pity that the authors of the Yzkor Books did not
provide Latin spelling index of the surnames listed in the text.

Folks behind the Yad vaShem records have realized this problem, and all submission
to the Registry required to provide Latin surname spelling. Similarly, Pinkas
Hakehilot include the original spelling index of all shtetls listed.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB., Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BLIOKH v. BLOCH #general

David Kravitz
 

What is in the spelling of a name? Not a lot when immigrants came >from eastern
Europe to the English-speaking west, it would seem. Whilst BlOCH would appear to
be the common spelling, my partner's maiden name was BLOGH and she was born in
Ireland. A lake in Scotland is a loch but the same pronunciation in Ireland is
spelt Lough. An Irish immigration officer hearing Bloch could easily record the
name as Blogh.

My great uncle Abraham KRAVITZ was born in Sislewich, Belorus and came to
Liverpool and later, Southport. His son, Isaac, spelled his surname CRAVITZ, as
did a different branch of the family in Ireland. In searching for family, use
soundex rather than inflexibility of spelling.

David Kravitz
Netanya, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: NYC Jewish Cemeteries #general

Peregrine Maitland <273589roots@...>
 

There are many Jewish cemeteries in the NY city borough of Queens and still more
in the surrounding NY metropolitan area, any one of which might be the place of
your grandfather's interment. Rather than pursuing this on the basis of where your
grandfather passed away, you should look at the possibility of his being
associated with a landsmanshaft or health, welfare, burial association. Such
associations were often formed on the basis of a town your father emigrated from,
a temple he belonged to, etc. If he was a member of such an organization, that
would point you to the correct cemetery or a few cemeteries, since landsmanshaften
often purchased sections in multiple cemeteries.

For a list of landsmanshaften and a list of Jewish cemeteries in Queens and the NY
metropolitan area, see http://www.jgsny.org/

Peregrine Maitland
273589roots@...
To reply, delete all numeric characters >from the return address given.


"dennis" <dennisj@...> wrote

The brother of my grandfather passed away in 1935 in Richmond Hill, NY. What are
the most likely cemetaries in the area that he would be interned? Since I am not
a New Yorker, I would appreciate your advice.

Dennis Allon, Jerusalem


JFRA Israel Ra'anana branch, Wed. 21 Sept #general

Micha Reisel
 

Welcome back to all JFRA members and friends.

The JFRA Ra'anana branch will hold its first meeting of the season on Wednesday,
21 September, with a review of the Las Vegas 2005 conference and the very first
preview of next summer's conference, to be held August 13-18, 2006 in New York
City, hosted by the Jewish Genealogical Society of New York.

JFRA president Schelly Talalay Dardashti, who is on the conference committee, will
provide an exciting look at what is being planned for next summer's event.

Doors open at 7 pm.
Program begins at 7.30 pm.
Bet Fisher, 5 Klausner St., off Ahuza, adjacent to the Ra'anana municipality.
Ra'anana

Admission: JFRA members, NIS 5; others, NIS 15.
Membership checks, payable to JFRA, will be accepted
at this meeting. NIS 100, single; NIS 160, couple.
This covers the rest of 2005 and the whole of 2006

____________________
Micha Reisel
Hod Hasharon, Israel
+972-544-788-218
Vice president of JFRA
the Jewish Family Research Association of Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JFRA Israel Ra'anana branch, Wed. 21 Sept #general

Micha Reisel
 

Welcome back to all JFRA members and friends.

The JFRA Ra'anana branch will hold its first meeting of the season on Wednesday,
21 September, with a review of the Las Vegas 2005 conference and the very first
preview of next summer's conference, to be held August 13-18, 2006 in New York
City, hosted by the Jewish Genealogical Society of New York.

JFRA president Schelly Talalay Dardashti, who is on the conference committee, will
provide an exciting look at what is being planned for next summer's event.

Doors open at 7 pm.
Program begins at 7.30 pm.
Bet Fisher, 5 Klausner St., off Ahuza, adjacent to the Ra'anana municipality.
Ra'anana

Admission: JFRA members, NIS 5; others, NIS 15.
Membership checks, payable to JFRA, will be accepted
at this meeting. NIS 100, single; NIS 160, couple.
This covers the rest of 2005 and the whole of 2006

____________________
Micha Reisel
Hod Hasharon, Israel
+972-544-788-218
Vice president of JFRA
the Jewish Family Research Association of Israel


JGS Pittsburgh Sept. 19 Meeting #general

Rae Barent <RaeBarent@...>
 

JGS Pittsburgh September Meeting
Date: Monday, September 19, 2005
Time: 7:30 P.M.
Place: Rudolph Family Holocaust Ctr.of United Jewish Federation
JCC Robinson Bldg.
5738 Darlington Rd.
Pittsburgh, PA 15217

To be able to explore your roots, you need to wear many hats. You need to know a
bit of geography to know, for example, where the borders between Romania and the
Ukraine are today and where that leaves Czernovitz ... the capital of Bukovina and
the crown jewel of Romania is now Ukrainian. You need to be a bit of a linguist
to know that Gubernya is another name for State and not the name of a specific
state and that, because the Cyrillic alphabet contains no letter H, GUREVITZ and
HOROVITZ are probably the same name. You need to have a nodding acquaintance with
the difference between naming practices in Ashkenazic and Sephardic communities.
And that doesn't even begin to touch on the Internet skills that might come in
handy. More than anything else, you need to know some of the history of area.
When does Poland cease to exist? When is Lithuania really Poland...or vice versa?

Because we are aware of all this, this month's program will be devoted to Jewish
Genealogy and Russian History and will be presented by Alexander Orbach, associate
professor of Modern Jewish History in the Department of Religious Studies and the
Department of History at the University of Pittsburgh.

Since this is the first meeting since the IAJGS Seminar in Las Vegas, there will
be a very brief, not to exceed ten minutes report on that seminar.

Appropriately enough, since History is this month's theme, Jack Greenberg will be
distributing copies of Centennia Software to those who placed an order with him.

Come early for coffee and conversation!!

Rae M. Barent
VP Programming
JGS-Pittsburgh


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS Pittsburgh Sept. 19 Meeting #general

Rae Barent <RaeBarent@...>
 

JGS Pittsburgh September Meeting
Date: Monday, September 19, 2005
Time: 7:30 P.M.
Place: Rudolph Family Holocaust Ctr.of United Jewish Federation
JCC Robinson Bldg.
5738 Darlington Rd.
Pittsburgh, PA 15217

To be able to explore your roots, you need to wear many hats. You need to know a
bit of geography to know, for example, where the borders between Romania and the
Ukraine are today and where that leaves Czernovitz ... the capital of Bukovina and
the crown jewel of Romania is now Ukrainian. You need to be a bit of a linguist
to know that Gubernya is another name for State and not the name of a specific
state and that, because the Cyrillic alphabet contains no letter H, GUREVITZ and
HOROVITZ are probably the same name. You need to have a nodding acquaintance with
the difference between naming practices in Ashkenazic and Sephardic communities.
And that doesn't even begin to touch on the Internet skills that might come in
handy. More than anything else, you need to know some of the history of area.
When does Poland cease to exist? When is Lithuania really Poland...or vice versa?

Because we are aware of all this, this month's program will be devoted to Jewish
Genealogy and Russian History and will be presented by Alexander Orbach, associate
professor of Modern Jewish History in the Department of Religious Studies and the
Department of History at the University of Pittsburgh.

Since this is the first meeting since the IAJGS Seminar in Las Vegas, there will
be a very brief, not to exceed ten minutes report on that seminar.

Appropriately enough, since History is this month's theme, Jack Greenberg will be
distributing copies of Centennia Software to those who placed an order with him.

Come early for coffee and conversation!!

Rae M. Barent
VP Programming
JGS-Pittsburgh


translation help Cyrillic to English #poland

Ladynancealot@...
 

Hi Listers,

I would greatly appreciate any help translating an 1883 marriage record
from Sokolow Podlaski, Poland, written in Cyrillic. The ViewMate file
is VM6811 and is found at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6811

I am interested in a complete translation giving all details, especially
names, places and exact dates.

I thank you in advance for any help you may be able to give me.

Nancee Felder
San Francisco, CA

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


JRI Poland #Poland translation help Cyrillic to English #poland

Ladynancealot@...
 

Hi Listers,

I would greatly appreciate any help translating an 1883 marriage record
from Sokolow Podlaski, Poland, written in Cyrillic. The ViewMate file
is VM6811 and is found at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6811

I am interested in a complete translation giving all details, especially
names, places and exact dates.

I thank you in advance for any help you may be able to give me.

Nancee Felder
San Francisco, CA

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Viewmate - 3 Galician Records in Polish #poland

HJB <hjb@...>
 

Hello,
I have posted on viewmate Galician records received through
JRI-Poland for HABER family. In all I have received about a
dozen records for this family which have greatly helped in
clarifying and expanding information I already had. I'm now feel
confident that the first generations of this tree are close to
the truth and want to express my thanks to JRI-Poland, Viewmate
and the wonderful people who give so freely of their time for
those functions and to translate these documents for us.

Here are the records I've posted:
Birth record for Ruchel Haber, pg 1 & 2; Ruchel is the last entry
on this page
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6804
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6805

Birth record for Schlomo Wolf Schwarz, pg 1 & 2; Schlomo is the
3rd entry on this page.
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6806
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6807

Birth Record for Abram Wolf Haber. Abram is the last entry on
this page. Unfortunately this is a poor copy but it was the best
they could provide. Luckily it's only the parents column I'm not
sure of. Thanks for any attempts.
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6808

Please respond to the email on the viewmate pages.

With thanks,

Hazel Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada


JRI Poland #Poland Viewmate - 3 Galician Records in Polish #poland

HJB <hjb@...>
 

Hello,
I have posted on viewmate Galician records received through
JRI-Poland for HABER family. In all I have received about a
dozen records for this family which have greatly helped in
clarifying and expanding information I already had. I'm now feel
confident that the first generations of this tree are close to
the truth and want to express my thanks to JRI-Poland, Viewmate
and the wonderful people who give so freely of their time for
those functions and to translate these documents for us.

Here are the records I've posted:
Birth record for Ruchel Haber, pg 1 & 2; Ruchel is the last entry
on this page
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6804
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6805

Birth record for Schlomo Wolf Schwarz, pg 1 & 2; Schlomo is the
3rd entry on this page.
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6806
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6807

Birth Record for Abram Wolf Haber. Abram is the last entry on
this page. Unfortunately this is a poor copy but it was the best
they could provide. Luckily it's only the parents column I'm not
sure of. Thanks for any attempts.
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6808

Please respond to the email on the viewmate pages.

With thanks,

Hazel Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada


Re: Double names #poland

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

Thank you to Leslie Reich of Manchester for his timely
informative posting on "Yam shel shlomo," as I'm
writing a story on baby naming for a Jewish
publication in America. Leslie's posting has provided
interesting insights. Thank you again.

Best wishes,
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
schelly@...


Subject: Double forenames, the Mahrshall and Schneur
From: "Mr L Reich" <lreich@...>
Until about the 15th a single Hebrew forename was
the accepted practice amongst Ashkenazi Jewry. I have
often wondered why and how the current custom of
double and multiple Hebrew forenames arose.
Recently I came across a passage in the talmudic
commentary "Yam shell shlomo" (Gittin 4:26)for which I
will now give a rough translation. This
piece is of interest to genealogists on several
counts.
---snipped----


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Double names #poland

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

Thank you to Leslie Reich of Manchester for his timely
informative posting on "Yam shel shlomo," as I'm
writing a story on baby naming for a Jewish
publication in America. Leslie's posting has provided
interesting insights. Thank you again.

Best wishes,
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
schelly@...


Subject: Double forenames, the Mahrshall and Schneur
From: "Mr L Reich" <lreich@...>
Until about the 15th a single Hebrew forename was
the accepted practice amongst Ashkenazi Jewry. I have
often wondered why and how the current custom of
double and multiple Hebrew forenames arose.
Recently I came across a passage in the talmudic
commentary "Yam shell shlomo" (Gittin 4:26)for which I
will now give a rough translation. This
piece is of interest to genealogists on several
counts.
---snipped----