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acrostics on tombstones #belarus

Cnydorf@...
 

Dear Belarussiggers
I am writing about this to ask if other siggers have noticed
something like what I found and to suggest that others be on the lookout for it....
My ggfather Abraham BERGER (1838-1918) son of Yitskhok Levi lived in
Haradok in the Vilna gubernia and died in New York . When I showed a friend a
photo of his headstone she noticed somehting surprising. If the first letters
each line of the inscription are read downward it spells out a message. There
is Aleph Beys, for Av meaning father, Yud Tsadik Khes Kuf, spelling out the
name Yitskhok. At the end are the letters Lamed Ayin which I interpret as a
diminutive ending so that the whole message is "Av Yitskhokle".
Does anyone know whether acrostics like this are common on headstones
from Belarus and other parts of Europe?
Regards

Charles Nydorf

New York


Belarus SIG #Belarus acrostics on tombstones #belarus

Cnydorf@...
 

Dear Belarussiggers
I am writing about this to ask if other siggers have noticed
something like what I found and to suggest that others be on the lookout for it....
My ggfather Abraham BERGER (1838-1918) son of Yitskhok Levi lived in
Haradok in the Vilna gubernia and died in New York . When I showed a friend a
photo of his headstone she noticed somehting surprising. If the first letters
each line of the inscription are read downward it spells out a message. There
is Aleph Beys, for Av meaning father, Yud Tsadik Khes Kuf, spelling out the
name Yitskhok. At the end are the letters Lamed Ayin which I interpret as a
diminutive ending so that the whole message is "Av Yitskhokle".
Does anyone know whether acrostics like this are common on headstones
from Belarus and other parts of Europe?
Regards

Charles Nydorf

New York


Belz #galicia

Susana Mamber Englender
 

Dear group,

Can someone please tell me, where is "Belz". Not in the map, as
that I know. Using JP record index, and looking to "my town" , I
can't find it.

I know my grandmother as well her father were >from Belz. I have
religius books where is written the place Belz.

Regards,
Susana Mamber Englender

researching: MAMBER- HIRSCHHOREN-LANG- KLUGMAN - KESSEL - STUBHAUSEN -
HOCHBERG -all >from Galicia


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Belz #galicia

Susana Mamber Englender
 

Dear group,

Can someone please tell me, where is "Belz". Not in the map, as
that I know. Using JP record index, and looking to "my town" , I
can't find it.

I know my grandmother as well her father were >from Belz. I have
religius books where is written the place Belz.

Regards,
Susana Mamber Englender

researching: MAMBER- HIRSCHHOREN-LANG- KLUGMAN - KESSEL - STUBHAUSEN -
HOCHBERG -all >from Galicia


Re: Mesheska Anovka? #ukraine

Margaret Mikulska
 

Richard Reiser wrote:

I have a written note that my grandmother, Sophia POZNANSKI,
was "born in Mescheska Anovka, in either Hersonsky or Ekaterenslav
Guberney." Note further says she "went to school in Mesheska
Bratalubovka."

I cannot vouch for the correctness of the spellings because of the
handwriting.

Does anyone have any idea where these places might be?
The spelling is: Bratolyubovka and Annovka. Both places are in Ukraine,
north-east of Odessa.

I don't have a map showing the places, but the "directions" are:
Between Odessa and Dnipropetrovsk (Ekaterinoslav) there is Krivoj Rog
(north-east of Odessa). Now, north-west of Krivoj Rog there is a smaller
town, Kirovograd. Bratolyubovka is between Krivoj Rog and Kirovograd.
Annovka is north-north-west of Krivoj Rog, between Krivoj Rog and
Zheltyje Vody.

If you can read Cyryllic, here is a bus schedule >from which you can see
between which towns your two shtetls are:
http://www.bulvar.dp.ua/cgi-bin/bn/bulvar.pl?action=show&id=00000021

-Margaret Mikulska
silvagen@...
NJ, USA / Warsaw, Poland


Re: Mesheska Anovka? (Addition) #ukraine

Margaret Mikulska
 

In response to the query:

Richard Reiser wrote:

I have a written note that my grandmother, Sophia POZNANSKI,
was "born in Mescheska Anovka, in either Hersonsky or Ekaterenslav
Guberney." Note further says she "went to school in Mesheska
Bratalubovka."
I forgot to add that Kirovograd used to be called Elisavetgrad. So if
you use the old maps:

http://www.genealogia.ru/projects/maps/maps/alf.html

look for Elisavetgrad in the Kherson Gubernya. (Kherson is spelled in
Cyrillic "XEPCOH" and "X" is towards the end of the alphabet.)

-Margaret Mikulska
silvagen@...
NJ, USA / Warsaw, Poland


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Mesheska Anovka? #ukraine

Margaret Mikulska
 

Richard Reiser wrote:

I have a written note that my grandmother, Sophia POZNANSKI,
was "born in Mescheska Anovka, in either Hersonsky or Ekaterenslav
Guberney." Note further says she "went to school in Mesheska
Bratalubovka."

I cannot vouch for the correctness of the spellings because of the
handwriting.

Does anyone have any idea where these places might be?
The spelling is: Bratolyubovka and Annovka. Both places are in Ukraine,
north-east of Odessa.

I don't have a map showing the places, but the "directions" are:
Between Odessa and Dnipropetrovsk (Ekaterinoslav) there is Krivoj Rog
(north-east of Odessa). Now, north-west of Krivoj Rog there is a smaller
town, Kirovograd. Bratolyubovka is between Krivoj Rog and Kirovograd.
Annovka is north-north-west of Krivoj Rog, between Krivoj Rog and
Zheltyje Vody.

If you can read Cyryllic, here is a bus schedule >from which you can see
between which towns your two shtetls are:
http://www.bulvar.dp.ua/cgi-bin/bn/bulvar.pl?action=show&id=00000021

-Margaret Mikulska
silvagen@...
NJ, USA / Warsaw, Poland


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Mesheska Anovka? (Addition) #ukraine

Margaret Mikulska
 

In response to the query:

Richard Reiser wrote:

I have a written note that my grandmother, Sophia POZNANSKI,
was "born in Mescheska Anovka, in either Hersonsky or Ekaterenslav
Guberney." Note further says she "went to school in Mesheska
Bratalubovka."
I forgot to add that Kirovograd used to be called Elisavetgrad. So if
you use the old maps:

http://www.genealogia.ru/projects/maps/maps/alf.html

look for Elisavetgrad in the Kherson Gubernya. (Kherson is spelled in
Cyrillic "XEPCOH" and "X" is towards the end of the alphabet.)

-Margaret Mikulska
silvagen@...
NJ, USA / Warsaw, Poland


Russian translation request #ukraine

Marc D. Machtinger <marc@...>
 

Dear Fellow Researchers:

I would be very grateful if someone familiar with Russian script would take
a look at the following 1878 marriage record. I believe it should be a
marriage between Szandla KAUFMAN and Nusyn Zorech NACHEMIA. There appears
to be an unusual looking entry written vertically on the left side of the
record. I am interested to know what it says. But most importantly, I
would like to know the details in the record. If I am correct, the parents
of the bride should be Symcha and Rivka KAUFMAN. Of primary interest would
be the maiden name of Rivka, but I would also like to obtain the other
details in the record. Any help is appreciated.

The ViewMate file is VM6738, found at the following URL:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6738

I can provide a higher resolution image if helpful. Kindly reply to me
directly at marc@... . Thank you.

Very truly yours,

Marc D. Machtinger, Buffalo Grove, Illinois, U.S.A.
email: marc@...


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Russian translation request #ukraine

Marc D. Machtinger <marc@...>
 

Dear Fellow Researchers:

I would be very grateful if someone familiar with Russian script would take
a look at the following 1878 marriage record. I believe it should be a
marriage between Szandla KAUFMAN and Nusyn Zorech NACHEMIA. There appears
to be an unusual looking entry written vertically on the left side of the
record. I am interested to know what it says. But most importantly, I
would like to know the details in the record. If I am correct, the parents
of the bride should be Symcha and Rivka KAUFMAN. Of primary interest would
be the maiden name of Rivka, but I would also like to obtain the other
details in the record. Any help is appreciated.

The ViewMate file is VM6738, found at the following URL:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6738

I can provide a higher resolution image if helpful. Kindly reply to me
directly at marc@... . Thank you.

Very truly yours,

Marc D. Machtinger, Buffalo Grove, Illinois, U.S.A.
email: marc@...


Puvidla or Romanian Plum Jam #romania

Howard Orenstein
 

Hi, All,
I came across the name of a Romanian Plum Jam (Puvidla or Puvidal) in a
Yizkor Book for one of the pre-Holocaust shtetls of Romania. My mother was
born and raised in Saroca (on the Dniestr River), part of Bessarabia. She
made a wonderfully tasty jam that had a red-purple color which primarily
consisted of plums that were available in the late summer and early fall.
I think the major ingredients were the plums and sugar, and a lot of
stirring! If someone on this list can provide a recipe for this jam,
please contact me. Thank you.
Howard Orenstein
horenstein@...

Searching for: DERCAUTZAN, CUMPAN:Saroca Romania (Bessarabia)
MODERATOR NOTE: Private replies only. No recipes or discussion will be allowed.


Romania SIG #Romania Puvidla or Romanian Plum Jam #romania

Howard Orenstein
 

Hi, All,
I came across the name of a Romanian Plum Jam (Puvidla or Puvidal) in a
Yizkor Book for one of the pre-Holocaust shtetls of Romania. My mother was
born and raised in Saroca (on the Dniestr River), part of Bessarabia. She
made a wonderfully tasty jam that had a red-purple color which primarily
consisted of plums that were available in the late summer and early fall.
I think the major ingredients were the plums and sugar, and a lot of
stirring! If someone on this list can provide a recipe for this jam,
please contact me. Thank you.
Howard Orenstein
horenstein@...

Searching for: DERCAUTZAN, CUMPAN:Saroca Romania (Bessarabia)
MODERATOR NOTE: Private replies only. No recipes or discussion will be allowed.


Announcing a Newly-Formed JGS in California #general

jan meisels allen <janmallen@...>
 

Dear Jewish Genners:

A new JGS has been formed in the Conejo Valley and Ventura County (and
surrounding areas) located in California- known as the Jewish Genealogical
Society of the Conejo Valley and Ventura County -JGSCV- for short. For
those not familiar with the area, it has one of the largest-growing and
flourishing Jewish populations in the west, estimated at over 10,000 Jews
residing here. The Conejo Valley starts just west of the boundary line of
the City of Los Angeles and extends into the eastern part of Ventura County;
and all of Ventura County, which is the California County between Los
Angeles and Santa Barbara Counties.

An organizing committee of local, accomplished, Jewish genealogists has been
meeting since May and has organized, and founded the new JGS. We welcome
anyone interested in Jewish genealogy to attend our meetings and to join the
new society.

Four exciting programs are planned for the remainder of the year. The first
program meeting is scheduled for September 25 >from 2-4 pm- watch for the
announcement posted on the JewishGen Discussion Group shortly! All four
meetings are being held at Temple Adat Elohim in Thousand Oaks, CA which is
generously co-sponsoring our initial four programs to help launch this new
organization. While there is no fee to attend the meetings, membership dues
are $25 single, $30 for a family of two residing in the same household,
enabling us to present programs and develop a library of books, maps and
journals related to Jewish genealogy. Those joining the JGS now, will have
their membership dues apply through the end of 2006.

Anyone interested in learning more about the JGSCV and to be placed on the
e-mail list for future meeting information, please contact Jan Meisels
Allen, at janmallen@....

Jan Meisels Allen
Interim President, JGSCV
Agoura Hills, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Announcing a Newly-Formed JGS in California #general

jan meisels allen <janmallen@...>
 

Dear Jewish Genners:

A new JGS has been formed in the Conejo Valley and Ventura County (and
surrounding areas) located in California- known as the Jewish Genealogical
Society of the Conejo Valley and Ventura County -JGSCV- for short. For
those not familiar with the area, it has one of the largest-growing and
flourishing Jewish populations in the west, estimated at over 10,000 Jews
residing here. The Conejo Valley starts just west of the boundary line of
the City of Los Angeles and extends into the eastern part of Ventura County;
and all of Ventura County, which is the California County between Los
Angeles and Santa Barbara Counties.

An organizing committee of local, accomplished, Jewish genealogists has been
meeting since May and has organized, and founded the new JGS. We welcome
anyone interested in Jewish genealogy to attend our meetings and to join the
new society.

Four exciting programs are planned for the remainder of the year. The first
program meeting is scheduled for September 25 >from 2-4 pm- watch for the
announcement posted on the JewishGen Discussion Group shortly! All four
meetings are being held at Temple Adat Elohim in Thousand Oaks, CA which is
generously co-sponsoring our initial four programs to help launch this new
organization. While there is no fee to attend the meetings, membership dues
are $25 single, $30 for a family of two residing in the same household,
enabling us to present programs and develop a library of books, maps and
journals related to Jewish genealogy. Those joining the JGS now, will have
their membership dues apply through the end of 2006.

Anyone interested in learning more about the JGSCV and to be placed on the
e-mail list for future meeting information, please contact Jan Meisels
Allen, at janmallen@....

Jan Meisels Allen
Interim President, JGSCV
Agoura Hills, CA


JFRA Israel - Rehovot - Sept. 7 meeting #general

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

The JFRA Israel branch in Rehovot will meet at 8 pm,
Wednesday, September 7.
The speaker will be Michael Goldstein of Jerusalem,
who will speak on "Accessing records abroad (in the
US, Canada and UK) >from Israel.

The meeting will be held at the home of
Eddie & Maureen Rivlin, Glazer 13/17, Rehovot. Call
08-936-6199 for directions.

For more information, contact chair Linda Geffon,
linda@...

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@...
schelly@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JFRA Israel - Rehovot - Sept. 7 meeting #general

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

The JFRA Israel branch in Rehovot will meet at 8 pm,
Wednesday, September 7.
The speaker will be Michael Goldstein of Jerusalem,
who will speak on "Accessing records abroad (in the
US, Canada and UK) >from Israel.

The meeting will be held at the home of
Eddie & Maureen Rivlin, Glazer 13/17, Rehovot. Call
08-936-6199 for directions.

For more information, contact chair Linda Geffon,
linda@...

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@...
schelly@...


ViewMate translation from German requested (VM6729) #austria-czech

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

I would be grateful for a translation >from German of the abused,
deteriorating postcard I have posted to ViewMate

(http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html) as file VM6729.

The direct link to this file is:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6729.

The front of the postcard is a portrait of a young man in a WWI uniform, who
is almost certainly a relative of mine, though his relation to my family was
not known even two generations ago. I hope the translation, address stamp
Taborstrasse 53, and studio (Atelier "Stella," Wien XX Wallensteinstrasse
23) will facilitate his identification. Please respond privately.

Thanks very much and best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@...
near Washington, D.C.


Re: MOSES family #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@...> wrote in message
news:Xns96BC6CDC139A0eejj99@......


In 1871 another MOSES lived there. Mixup possible?

<http://genforum.genealogy.com/englandcountry/middlesex/messages/1355.html>

--
No, the head of that family is Moses __ISAACS__.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech ViewMate translation from German requested (VM6729) #austria-czech

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

I would be grateful for a translation >from German of the abused,
deteriorating postcard I have posted to ViewMate

(http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html) as file VM6729.

The direct link to this file is:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6729.

The front of the postcard is a portrait of a young man in a WWI uniform, who
is almost certainly a relative of mine, though his relation to my family was
not known even two generations ago. I hope the translation, address stamp
Taborstrasse 53, and studio (Atelier "Stella," Wien XX Wallensteinstrasse
23) will facilitate his identification. Please respond privately.

Thanks very much and best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@...
near Washington, D.C.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: MOSES family #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@...> wrote in message
news:Xns96BC6CDC139A0eejj99@......


In 1871 another MOSES lived there. Mixup possible?

<http://genforum.genealogy.com/englandcountry/middlesex/messages/1355.html>

--
No, the head of that family is Moses __ISAACS__.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)