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VM6978 Polish translation #general

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

I would be grateful for a translation of the Polish text on ViewMate
(http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html) at
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6978. Please
respond privately.

Thanks very much.

Logan Kleinwaks
near Washington, D.C.
www.FamilyTreeRegistry.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen VM6978 Polish translation #general

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

I would be grateful for a translation of the Polish text on ViewMate
(http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html) at
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6978. Please
respond privately.

Thanks very much.

Logan Kleinwaks
near Washington, D.C.
www.FamilyTreeRegistry.org


Czech-English Translation Help #general

Petecz <peterrohel@...>
 

Dear members,

I would really appreciate if someone, whose Czech is better - please help me
translate the following genealogy page link.
It has historical details of my ancestors Czechoslovakian textile factory
1848-1945 I received.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~prohel/stories/bohmfac.html#st

Please respond offline to: peterrohel@yahoo.ca

Thank you in advance for your help,

Peter Rohel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Czech-English Translation Help #general

Petecz <peterrohel@...>
 

Dear members,

I would really appreciate if someone, whose Czech is better - please help me
translate the following genealogy page link.
It has historical details of my ancestors Czechoslovakian textile factory
1848-1945 I received.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~prohel/stories/bohmfac.html#st

Please respond offline to: peterrohel@yahoo.ca

Thank you in advance for your help,

Peter Rohel


Documents to leave Russia #general

Gladys Paulin <paulin@...>
 

The postings are all correct. Some ancestors used a Russian passport that
was temporary but never returned; some applied for passports to join family
living elsewhere. But as Sally said, the vast majority left without
permission which was really not legal. The survival of the records, while
excellent in Lithuania, is not that good in other parts of the former
Russian Empire although various archives have different kinds of
collections, usually unindexed. Brigham Young University has started their
Immigrant Ancestors project which is now in its early stages to identify
records in the home country which include information on emigrants to
America, whether they were designed as emigrant records or not. See
http://immigrants.byu.edu (This site was not working this morning but I
assume this is temporary; if you Google the project you will find articles
from Ancestry and Dick Eastman which further explain it.)
Entry to the United States did not require a Visa until 1924 when the
immigration laws were changed. Prior to 1891 there was no federal
inspection; immigration was controlled by the various states and the level
of inspections varied considerably. NYC opened the first formal immigrant
reception center at Castle Garden in 1855, but that was mainly for health
inspection (the set up hospitals for the ill) and to protect immigrants from
scams and runners that deceived and robbed the unsuspecting arrivals.

Women had to be met at Ellis Island (not before) by a male relative or a
member of an authorized charitable organization, not because they could not
earn a living, but because earlier arrivals had been preyed upon by white
slavers and they needed protection.

Hope this adds more perspective.
Gladys

Gladys Friedman Paulin, CGRS
Winter Springs, FL
http://www.genealogybygladys.com

Editor "OnBoard the Newsletter of the Board for Certification of Genealogists"
CGRS, Certified Genealogical Records Specialist, is a Service mark of the
Board for Certification of Genealogists and is used under license by
Board-certified persons who meet program standards and periodic rigorous
evaluations.
<"Sally Bruckheimer" <sallybru@verizon.net>
<Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:35:15 -0400
<You don't say the year, but I will answer for the 19th century and the
first part of the 20th. You snuck out of Russia and didn't need any papers.>
< And a woman needed a male relative to meet her at the ship -
<it was assumed that a woman could not 'honestly' earn enough to support
herself.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Documents to leave Russia #general

Gladys Paulin <paulin@...>
 

The postings are all correct. Some ancestors used a Russian passport that
was temporary but never returned; some applied for passports to join family
living elsewhere. But as Sally said, the vast majority left without
permission which was really not legal. The survival of the records, while
excellent in Lithuania, is not that good in other parts of the former
Russian Empire although various archives have different kinds of
collections, usually unindexed. Brigham Young University has started their
Immigrant Ancestors project which is now in its early stages to identify
records in the home country which include information on emigrants to
America, whether they were designed as emigrant records or not. See
http://immigrants.byu.edu (This site was not working this morning but I
assume this is temporary; if you Google the project you will find articles
from Ancestry and Dick Eastman which further explain it.)
Entry to the United States did not require a Visa until 1924 when the
immigration laws were changed. Prior to 1891 there was no federal
inspection; immigration was controlled by the various states and the level
of inspections varied considerably. NYC opened the first formal immigrant
reception center at Castle Garden in 1855, but that was mainly for health
inspection (the set up hospitals for the ill) and to protect immigrants from
scams and runners that deceived and robbed the unsuspecting arrivals.

Women had to be met at Ellis Island (not before) by a male relative or a
member of an authorized charitable organization, not because they could not
earn a living, but because earlier arrivals had been preyed upon by white
slavers and they needed protection.

Hope this adds more perspective.
Gladys

Gladys Friedman Paulin, CGRS
Winter Springs, FL
http://www.genealogybygladys.com

Editor "OnBoard the Newsletter of the Board for Certification of Genealogists"
CGRS, Certified Genealogical Records Specialist, is a Service mark of the
Board for Certification of Genealogists and is used under license by
Board-certified persons who meet program standards and periodic rigorous
evaluations.
<"Sally Bruckheimer" <sallybru@verizon.net>
<Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:35:15 -0400
<You don't say the year, but I will answer for the 19th century and the
first part of the 20th. You snuck out of Russia and didn't need any papers.>
< And a woman needed a male relative to meet her at the ship -
<it was assumed that a woman could not 'honestly' earn enough to support
herself.


Looking for Gravestones #general

Sophie and Arthur Bass <abass@...>
 

I am looking for someone in or near Maanchester NH or Newburyport MA who can
go to the Jewish cemetaries and take pictures of some of my relatives
headstones. If it difficult to photo them, I would like to get the
information on them and their location. I know which cemetary some of them
are buried in.

If you are able to do this favor, I will send you the names and cemetaries.

I am also willing to try to locate and photo any headstones in the Albany NY
area (Schenectady, Troy, Saratoga, etc.) that might be of interest to
someone.

Thank you.

Art Bass
abass at nycap.rr.com

Researching BASS, FELLMAN, SPECTER, SPIEGELMAN, GULLER, REISMAN, ISENBERG,
ALFANDARI.

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for Gravestones #general

Sophie and Arthur Bass <abass@...>
 

I am looking for someone in or near Maanchester NH or Newburyport MA who can
go to the Jewish cemetaries and take pictures of some of my relatives
headstones. If it difficult to photo them, I would like to get the
information on them and their location. I know which cemetary some of them
are buried in.

If you are able to do this favor, I will send you the names and cemetaries.

I am also willing to try to locate and photo any headstones in the Albany NY
area (Schenectady, Troy, Saratoga, etc.) that might be of interest to
someone.

Thank you.

Art Bass
abass at nycap.rr.com

Researching BASS, FELLMAN, SPECTER, SPIEGELMAN, GULLER, REISMAN, ISENBERG,
ALFANDARI.

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Need Russian translation of postcards on Viewmate #general

Barbara <bks@...>
 

I have found 12 postcards >from the 1920's I think, that I would like
to have translated. The family names are BELECHEVSKY and KOZLOFF.
Here are the first 4.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6970
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6971
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6972
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6973

Thank you in advance.
Barbara Schoenburg
bks@schoenburg.com
West Hills, CA

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need Russian translation of postcards on Viewmate #general

Barbara <bks@...>
 

I have found 12 postcards >from the 1920's I think, that I would like
to have translated. The family names are BELECHEVSKY and KOZLOFF.
Here are the first 4.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6970
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6971
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6972
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6973

Thank you in advance.
Barbara Schoenburg
bks@schoenburg.com
West Hills, CA

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Polish Translation request - viewmate #general

HJB <hjb@...>
 

I am hoping that someone will find the time to translate these
records (Polish to English) all of which were >from Belchatow. I
will be grateful for any help given but would prefer full
translations. The records are:

Marriage Record for Herszlik SADOWSKI & Marya Malka SZUNDT (this
is my Great Grandfather's 1st marriage)
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6960

Birth Record for Tobiasz SADOWSKI
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6961

Birth Record for Niszel SADOWSKIJ
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6962

Birth Record for Sura Ryfka WIERZBICKA
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6963

Birth Record for Fajga Laja BERGER (I think this is my Great
Grandmother's Birth Record)
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6964

Please respond to me privately at hjb@cogeco.ca

With Thanks,

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Konyushki & Zurow, Galicia (now Zhuriv, Ukraine), NYC;
STARK - Bobrka, Galicia (now Ukraine), NYC; BELY - Rzeszow, Poland
SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY - Belchatow & Lodz, Poland, NYC;
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland, NYC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Polish Translation request - viewmate #general

HJB <hjb@...>
 

I am hoping that someone will find the time to translate these
records (Polish to English) all of which were >from Belchatow. I
will be grateful for any help given but would prefer full
translations. The records are:

Marriage Record for Herszlik SADOWSKI & Marya Malka SZUNDT (this
is my Great Grandfather's 1st marriage)
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6960

Birth Record for Tobiasz SADOWSKI
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6961

Birth Record for Niszel SADOWSKIJ
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6962

Birth Record for Sura Ryfka WIERZBICKA
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6963

Birth Record for Fajga Laja BERGER (I think this is my Great
Grandmother's Birth Record)
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6964

Please respond to me privately at hjb@cogeco.ca

With Thanks,

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Konyushki & Zurow, Galicia (now Zhuriv, Ukraine), NYC;
STARK - Bobrka, Galicia (now Ukraine), NYC; BELY - Rzeszow, Poland
SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY - Belchatow & Lodz, Poland, NYC;
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland, NYC


Jewish cemeteries in U.S. #usa

Joyce Field
 

It is vitally important that the burials in Jewish cemeteries in the
U.S. be computerized and contributed to JOWBR (JewishGen's online
Worldwide Burial Registry). The searchable database is at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery/ and the cemetery
inventory is at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/tree/CemList.htm.

The inventory shows that the database includes 243,786 burials in 759
U.S. cemeteries, but that total doesn't tell the whole story. If you
look at the alphabetical list of states, you may certainly conclude
that we have hardly touched the surface of all the Jewish cemeteries
in the US.

I am wondering how many Jewish cemeteries in the states devastated by
the recent hurricanes were destroyed, partially or completely. We
never know when or where natural disasters will hit, costing us our
precious history. That is why it is imperative that we make a
concerted effort to record all Jewish burials in the US.

It would be a real mitzvah for the Early American SIG to take the
lead in organizing groups to index the Jewish burials in every state
of the U.S., working, for example, with the local JGSs, synagogue
youth groups, state Jewish historical societies, Jewish women's
organizations. There are many towns in the U.S. with abandoned Jewish
cemeteries, towns which may no longer have a Jewish presence. Burial
records >from these cemeteries contain important genealogical
information which may be lost if we do not act now.

Instructions, forms, information on how to photograph tombstones, and
how to submit data to JOWBR --everything you need to know to collect
and submit data--are online at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm and
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/JOWBRinstructions.htm.
If you have any questions, do not hesitate to contact me or Nolan
Altman, JOWBR technical coordinator, at nta@pipeline.com.

Please accept this challenge.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition
jfield@jewishgen.org


Early American SIG #USA Jewish cemeteries in U.S. #usa

Joyce Field
 

It is vitally important that the burials in Jewish cemeteries in the
U.S. be computerized and contributed to JOWBR (JewishGen's online
Worldwide Burial Registry). The searchable database is at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery/ and the cemetery
inventory is at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/tree/CemList.htm.

The inventory shows that the database includes 243,786 burials in 759
U.S. cemeteries, but that total doesn't tell the whole story. If you
look at the alphabetical list of states, you may certainly conclude
that we have hardly touched the surface of all the Jewish cemeteries
in the US.

I am wondering how many Jewish cemeteries in the states devastated by
the recent hurricanes were destroyed, partially or completely. We
never know when or where natural disasters will hit, costing us our
precious history. That is why it is imperative that we make a
concerted effort to record all Jewish burials in the US.

It would be a real mitzvah for the Early American SIG to take the
lead in organizing groups to index the Jewish burials in every state
of the U.S., working, for example, with the local JGSs, synagogue
youth groups, state Jewish historical societies, Jewish women's
organizations. There are many towns in the U.S. with abandoned Jewish
cemeteries, towns which may no longer have a Jewish presence. Burial
records >from these cemeteries contain important genealogical
information which may be lost if we do not act now.

Instructions, forms, information on how to photograph tombstones, and
how to submit data to JOWBR --everything you need to know to collect
and submit data--are online at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm and
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/JOWBRinstructions.htm.
If you have any questions, do not hesitate to contact me or Nolan
Altman, JOWBR technical coordinator, at nta@pipeline.com.

Please accept this challenge.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition
jfield@jewishgen.org


Re: WWII era Ung. Jüdische Militär-Arbeitsdien postcards, papers in auction #hungary

Amos Israel Zezmer <amos.zezmer@...>
 

Linda,

Please e-mail me the link to this site, and the mechanics of viewing all
the available information since it's all in Hungarian, I imagine.

Thank you.

Best regards,

Amos

Rakoff125@aol.com wrote:

A Hungarian auction site known for stamps, postcards, and paper items has a
special Judaica collection on line now. A major section is a category called:
Ung. Jüdische Militär-Arbeitsdienst which covers many postcards, official
looking papers, and personal notes between 1940 October-December including some
from 1942,1943, 1944. Some of the names I noted are listed. Many are in
Budapest or Ujpest, some in Vacs, this is not an all inclusive list. It may be
worth your while to look this up for a treasured record >from a family member
. If you don't know which site email me privately, I don't know if I can list
it here.
Koltai Ernone
Erdos Zoltan
Szmuk Sandorne
Kalmar Janosne
Szentgyorgy Erno
Schmidek S?anto
Berger Gyorgy
Veisz Imre
Flesser Iren
Schwartz Frigyes?
Muller Bela
Bielitz Sandor [1942]
Kulcsor Sandor
Vegh Ilus & Schick Gyula
Meisner Tamas & Robert
Steiner Sandor [Sobrance address]
Lieblich Janos >from Ripponye Nandorne 1944.07.22 >from VII Weisselenyi Utca
[ghetto?]
Pichler G
FOLDES Jozsef

there are also heartbreaking papers, postcards and letters 1940- 1944 >from
Dachau, Gross Rosen, KZ-Lager Sachsenhausen, Oranienburg, Auschwitz, and
Buchenwald to family and friends in Lublin, Berlin, Warsaw, Lodz.........voices
from the Holocaust still needing to be heard. There are a lot of small
documents [registration cards perhaps?] with names, birthdates, block and prisoner
numbers and Information I cannot translate >from various concentration camps...

another batch of papers includes some kivonats and marriage
records.....there is a lot to look at here.

Linda Rakoff
Newton, MAssachusetts, USA
searching:
ASCHNER-, Assakurte, Berko, Bratislava, Budapest , Hradiste, Katlo, Kosice,
Malacky, Nyitra, Spisska Nova Ves, Wien, Berlin, Beuthen/Bytom,
Breslau/Wroclaw,Brunovce, Danzig, Chorzow [Konigshutte], Kattowitz LIFSITZ-Galati;
GOLDMAN(N), LANGER -Kosice, Bolyar; Miskolc, Presov; LOW'Y-Brezova, Hradiste,
Spisska Nova Ves MELTZER, PERLBINDER, LADENHEIM-- Horodenka,RIESENBERG- Bolygen,
Horodenka, Kasperowicz, Zaleschicki, GORDON-Moletai, WATMAN, MILLER-Lithuania,
Ponemunka


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: WWII era Ung. Jüdische Militär-Arbeitsdien postcards, papers in auction #hungary

Amos Israel Zezmer <amos.zezmer@...>
 

Linda,

Please e-mail me the link to this site, and the mechanics of viewing all
the available information since it's all in Hungarian, I imagine.

Thank you.

Best regards,

Amos

Rakoff125@aol.com wrote:

A Hungarian auction site known for stamps, postcards, and paper items has a
special Judaica collection on line now. A major section is a category called:
Ung. Jüdische Militär-Arbeitsdienst which covers many postcards, official
looking papers, and personal notes between 1940 October-December including some
from 1942,1943, 1944. Some of the names I noted are listed. Many are in
Budapest or Ujpest, some in Vacs, this is not an all inclusive list. It may be
worth your while to look this up for a treasured record >from a family member
. If you don't know which site email me privately, I don't know if I can list
it here.
Koltai Ernone
Erdos Zoltan
Szmuk Sandorne
Kalmar Janosne
Szentgyorgy Erno
Schmidek S?anto
Berger Gyorgy
Veisz Imre
Flesser Iren
Schwartz Frigyes?
Muller Bela
Bielitz Sandor [1942]
Kulcsor Sandor
Vegh Ilus & Schick Gyula
Meisner Tamas & Robert
Steiner Sandor [Sobrance address]
Lieblich Janos >from Ripponye Nandorne 1944.07.22 >from VII Weisselenyi Utca
[ghetto?]
Pichler G
FOLDES Jozsef

there are also heartbreaking papers, postcards and letters 1940- 1944 >from
Dachau, Gross Rosen, KZ-Lager Sachsenhausen, Oranienburg, Auschwitz, and
Buchenwald to family and friends in Lublin, Berlin, Warsaw, Lodz.........voices
from the Holocaust still needing to be heard. There are a lot of small
documents [registration cards perhaps?] with names, birthdates, block and prisoner
numbers and Information I cannot translate >from various concentration camps...

another batch of papers includes some kivonats and marriage
records.....there is a lot to look at here.

Linda Rakoff
Newton, MAssachusetts, USA
searching:
ASCHNER-, Assakurte, Berko, Bratislava, Budapest , Hradiste, Katlo, Kosice,
Malacky, Nyitra, Spisska Nova Ves, Wien, Berlin, Beuthen/Bytom,
Breslau/Wroclaw,Brunovce, Danzig, Chorzow [Konigshutte], Kattowitz LIFSITZ-Galati;
GOLDMAN(N), LANGER -Kosice, Bolyar; Miskolc, Presov; LOW'Y-Brezova, Hradiste,
Spisska Nova Ves MELTZER, PERLBINDER, LADENHEIM-- Horodenka,RIESENBERG- Bolygen,
Horodenka, Kasperowicz, Zaleschicki, GORDON-Moletai, WATMAN, MILLER-Lithuania,
Ponemunka


Re: German emigration via Antwerp #germany

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

Michael,

You do not state when your family left >from Antwerp. However if you go
to the web site for the FrenchSIG < www.jewishgen.org/french > and
click on the Link to Belgium, you will find the site of the Red Star
Line Memorial. The Red Star Line transported almost 3 million people
from Antwerp to the US and Canada, between 1873-1935. If you click on
the button at the top for Belgian Emigration you will find access to a
list of surnames, as well as much other information as to why
individuals emigrated through that port.

Rosanne Leeson Co-Coordinator FrenchSIG

Michael Rubin Newton, MA USA mrubin@sonusnet.com asked:
Does anyone have creative ideas of how to find departure records through
Antwerp? Apparently my family left Hesse-Nassau over land to Antwerp.


German SIG #Germany Re: German emigration via Antwerp #germany

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

Michael,

You do not state when your family left >from Antwerp. However if you go
to the web site for the FrenchSIG < www.jewishgen.org/french > and
click on the Link to Belgium, you will find the site of the Red Star
Line Memorial. The Red Star Line transported almost 3 million people
from Antwerp to the US and Canada, between 1873-1935. If you click on
the button at the top for Belgian Emigration you will find access to a
list of surnames, as well as much other information as to why
individuals emigrated through that port.

Rosanne Leeson Co-Coordinator FrenchSIG

Michael Rubin Newton, MA USA mrubin@sonusnet.com asked:
Does anyone have creative ideas of how to find departure records through
Antwerp? Apparently my family left Hesse-Nassau over land to Antwerp.


Re: EIBESCHUETZ, NATHAN in Copenhagen #scandinavia

Elsebeth Paikin
 

Hi Logan,

At 02:30 17-10-2005, you wrote:
I previously wrote to the SIG regarding my gggggf Gerson Naphtali NATHAN
(1775, Danzig-25 Dec 1850, Copenhagen), ... snip...
Today, I found that a recent addition to that website includes an 1840
census listing for him, which raises several new questions.

According to the DDD, my ancestor Gerson Naphtali NATHAN was living in 1840
at Rosengaarden No. 129. The entry appears on the DDD as:

"Leun A. Eibeschuetz, 61, Gift, , Kobmand og Clas. Lot. Col., Joder,
Sofie Eibeschuetz, 38, Gift, , Hans kone, Joder,
Gerson Nathan, 64, Ugift, , Kjobmand fodt Danzig, Joder,
Jette Cowen [ Cohen ], 18, Ugift, , Tjenestepige, Joder,
Niels Hendrik Egense, 19, Ugift, , Hoboist ved kongens Regiment"

In the 1845 and 1850 censuses, Gerson is listed as being a widower, and I
know he was married at least once before 1840, so I am surprised to see him
listed here as "Ugift." Was the marital status frequently listed as=
single,
when the person was actually a widower?
...snip...
I am curious why Gerson lived in the EIBESCHUETZ household. Was this due=
to
a business relationship? He is listed here as a merchant, but his
"occupation" in the 1845 and 1850 censuses is talmudist.
No, usually widowers were listed as widowers. But errors occurred.
Of course it *might* be another Gerson NATHAN!
That might also account for another occupation (merchant).
However, the occupation might also be a mistake...

There is not telling whether there is any relationship/business
relationship between the EIBESCH=DCTZ'es and Gerson NATHAN. He might
just have been a lodger.
Do you know the name of Gerson NATHAN's wife?
And the name of his children?
That might help in finding more information for you.

...snip...
"Clas. Lot. Col." listed for Lewin above mean that he won
the lottery? In 1850, this is listed as "classelotteri
collecteur.")
"Classelotteri Collecteur" is an occupation. Sometimes (or
most often) the only occupation, but sometimes an occupation
on the side.

Does anyone know about the life of Levin Aron EIBESCHUETZ?
Levin Aron EIBESCH=DCTZ (brother or Simon Aron)
was born 8. Apr. 1778 in Copenhagen
and he died 5. Aug. 1863 in Copenhagen
He was married
(1) to Especance ENGEL
(2) to Sophie MEYER
No children in either marriage.

Does anyone know where records of the Copenhagen EIBESCHUETZ family can be
found?
There is a printed genealogical table of the EIBESCH=DCTZ family. I'll see=
if
I can find any connection there. Not it does not appear to the case >from the
index of names.

Does anyone know where records of Simon Aron EIBESCHUETZ's businesses (and,
especially, business dealings with Danzig) can be found?
Simon Aron EIBESCH=DCTZ was "justitsraad" - and old title which could be
translated to "counsellor". He was also an "agent" in Copenhagen. We was
married twice and had one child, Aron, in his second marriage.
It is not easy to find out about his business dealings!

That'll be all for now.

Best regards



Elsebeth Paikin, President
Jewish Genealogical Society of Denmark:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgs-denmark/
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Scandinavia SIG #Scandinavia Re: EIBESCHUETZ, NATHAN in Copenhagen #scandinavia

Elsebeth Paikin
 

Hi Logan,

At 02:30 17-10-2005, you wrote:
I previously wrote to the SIG regarding my gggggf Gerson Naphtali NATHAN
(1775, Danzig-25 Dec 1850, Copenhagen), ... snip...
Today, I found that a recent addition to that website includes an 1840
census listing for him, which raises several new questions.

According to the DDD, my ancestor Gerson Naphtali NATHAN was living in 1840
at Rosengaarden No. 129. The entry appears on the DDD as:

"Leun A. Eibeschuetz, 61, Gift, , Kobmand og Clas. Lot. Col., Joder,
Sofie Eibeschuetz, 38, Gift, , Hans kone, Joder,
Gerson Nathan, 64, Ugift, , Kjobmand fodt Danzig, Joder,
Jette Cowen [ Cohen ], 18, Ugift, , Tjenestepige, Joder,
Niels Hendrik Egense, 19, Ugift, , Hoboist ved kongens Regiment"

In the 1845 and 1850 censuses, Gerson is listed as being a widower, and I
know he was married at least once before 1840, so I am surprised to see him
listed here as "Ugift." Was the marital status frequently listed as=
single,
when the person was actually a widower?
...snip...
I am curious why Gerson lived in the EIBESCHUETZ household. Was this due=
to
a business relationship? He is listed here as a merchant, but his
"occupation" in the 1845 and 1850 censuses is talmudist.
No, usually widowers were listed as widowers. But errors occurred.
Of course it *might* be another Gerson NATHAN!
That might also account for another occupation (merchant).
However, the occupation might also be a mistake...

There is not telling whether there is any relationship/business
relationship between the EIBESCH=DCTZ'es and Gerson NATHAN. He might
just have been a lodger.
Do you know the name of Gerson NATHAN's wife?
And the name of his children?
That might help in finding more information for you.

...snip...
"Clas. Lot. Col." listed for Lewin above mean that he won
the lottery? In 1850, this is listed as "classelotteri
collecteur.")
"Classelotteri Collecteur" is an occupation. Sometimes (or
most often) the only occupation, but sometimes an occupation
on the side.

Does anyone know about the life of Levin Aron EIBESCHUETZ?
Levin Aron EIBESCH=DCTZ (brother or Simon Aron)
was born 8. Apr. 1778 in Copenhagen
and he died 5. Aug. 1863 in Copenhagen
He was married
(1) to Especance ENGEL
(2) to Sophie MEYER
No children in either marriage.

Does anyone know where records of the Copenhagen EIBESCHUETZ family can be
found?
There is a printed genealogical table of the EIBESCH=DCTZ family. I'll see=
if
I can find any connection there. Not it does not appear to the case >from the
index of names.

Does anyone know where records of Simon Aron EIBESCHUETZ's businesses (and,
especially, business dealings with Danzig) can be found?
Simon Aron EIBESCH=DCTZ was "justitsraad" - and old title which could be
translated to "counsellor". He was also an "agent" in Copenhagen. We was
married twice and had one child, Aron, in his second marriage.
It is not easy to find out about his business dealings!

That'll be all for now.

Best regards



Elsebeth Paikin, President
Jewish Genealogical Society of Denmark:
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SIG Coordinator and webmaster:
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mailto:elsebeth@paikin.dk