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Romanian Language #romania

navy7seas@...
 

My family name of SCHWARTZ is spelled SFARTI in the documents >from Romania.
Does anyone know how this would be pronounced phonetically?
Jonathan M Schwartz

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Romania SIG #Romania Romanian Language #romania

navy7seas@...
 

My family name of SCHWARTZ is spelled SFARTI in the documents >from Romania.
Does anyone know how this would be pronounced phonetically?
Jonathan M Schwartz

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Re: routes from Romania #romania

Linda Altman <familysearch@...>
 

Malcom:
My relatives came >from Romania to the US in 1901. Check arrivals from
Rotterdam. Many left Romania by foot or other means and went to large
cities. Their first stop was usually Vienna, where the Jewish community
helped them on their way to other destinations.

You can also check the Poor Jews Shelter in the UK. They may be listed
there. I don't have the url handy but if you [search engine deleted]
Poor Jews Shelter, you will get the correct website.

Linda Altman
Raleigh, NC


Hello to everyone
My grandparents came to the uk in 1900 >from Roumania
by ship,does anyone know the commonest route from
there at that time,and are there any records.

Many thanks
Malcolm Katz
London


Romania SIG #Romania Re: routes from Romania #romania

Linda Altman <familysearch@...>
 

Malcom:
My relatives came >from Romania to the US in 1901. Check arrivals from
Rotterdam. Many left Romania by foot or other means and went to large
cities. Their first stop was usually Vienna, where the Jewish community
helped them on their way to other destinations.

You can also check the Poor Jews Shelter in the UK. They may be listed
there. I don't have the url handy but if you [search engine deleted]
Poor Jews Shelter, you will get the correct website.

Linda Altman
Raleigh, NC


Hello to everyone
My grandparents came to the uk in 1900 >from Roumania
by ship,does anyone know the commonest route from
there at that time,and are there any records.

Many thanks
Malcolm Katz
London


Re: Reb Shraga Feivel #rabbinic

seforimlover
 

On 2005.10.27, Bernard Weill <linktree@yahoo.com> asked:

Many of the references in this published work are to Rabbi
ALexander Gross and Dr. Joseph Kaminetsky's "Shraga Mendlowitz", in
Men of the Spirit. Is anyone familiar with this publication? Was it
a book published strictly on Reb SHraga Feivel? Is it available?

Not "Men Of Spirit," but, "Men of the Spirit."
Edited by Leo Jung
Published by Kymson Publishing Company, New York, 1964.

This book is one of at least three very important books, all of
which contain about 30 biographies of prominent religious Jewish
figures. These are well researched biographies which contain
significant information not easily found elsewhere.

The other two are, "Guardians Of Our Heritage" and "Jewish Leaders."

So far as I know these books are no available.

Best wishes,

Yehuda Herskowitz


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Reb Shraga Feivel #rabbinic

seforimlover
 

On 2005.10.27, Bernard Weill <linktree@yahoo.com> asked:

Many of the references in this published work are to Rabbi
ALexander Gross and Dr. Joseph Kaminetsky's "Shraga Mendlowitz", in
Men of the Spirit. Is anyone familiar with this publication? Was it
a book published strictly on Reb SHraga Feivel? Is it available?

Not "Men Of Spirit," but, "Men of the Spirit."
Edited by Leo Jung
Published by Kymson Publishing Company, New York, 1964.

This book is one of at least three very important books, all of
which contain about 30 biographies of prominent religious Jewish
figures. These are well researched biographies which contain
significant information not easily found elsewhere.

The other two are, "Guardians Of Our Heritage" and "Jewish Leaders."

So far as I know these books are no available.

Best wishes,

Yehuda Herskowitz


Re: German Reparations #hungary

Henry Lifton <henlif@...>
 

Dear Evertjan

Thanks for that very useful information. I tried to reply directly to you
but no matter how I changed your email address, It kept coming back to me.

I have already written to them

Thanks again
Henry


Subject: Re: German Reparations
From: "Evertjan." < exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net >
Date: 27 Oct 2005 17:47:18 GMT
X-Message-Number: 19

Henry Lifton wrote on 27 okt 2005 in soc.genealogy.jewish:
I understand that after the war in Amberg, Germany, my uncle lived in
the Yiddisha Geminda (?).
Judische Gemeinde Jewish community
< snip >
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The Netherlands.
(Replace all crosses with dots in my emailaddress) >>>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: German Reparations #general

Henry Lifton <henlif@...>
 

Dear Evertjan

Thanks for that very useful information. I tried to reply directly to you
but no matter how I changed your email address, It kept coming back to me.

I have already written to them

Thanks again
Henry


Subject: Re: German Reparations
From: "Evertjan." < exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net >
Date: 27 Oct 2005 17:47:18 GMT
X-Message-Number: 19

Henry Lifton wrote on 27 okt 2005 in soc.genealogy.jewish:
I understand that after the war in Amberg, Germany, my uncle lived in
the Yiddisha Geminda (?).
Judische Gemeinde Jewish community
< snip >
--

Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Replace all crosses with dots in my emailaddress) >>>


Re: Privacy on the internet #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 04:17:04 UTC, brendajf@bigplanet.com (Brenda J
Freedland) opined:

I am concerned when a photo is associated with a name and/or
address--especially if it is a child. This is a real problem. With
GoogleEarth.com one can find any address, so the addresses are the items
about which to be most concerned.

Having said that, there is a website 555-1212, that is a subscription site.
One can get info by name, address, or phone number, unless the phone number
is not listed. This is a real problem.

I have gone to 5551212 to get someone's address and then gone to GoogleEarth
to see where they live. Predators have the same ability. We're between a
rock and a hard place.

Brenda Freedland Pangborn
This is indeed worrying.

You can do pretty much the same thing using the printed telephone
directory that you, your parents, and your grandparents (and all
predators) have had available for a century, but nobody thought to
worry until the same information got online so you can see it on a
monitor screen.
--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Privacy on the internet #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 04:17:04 UTC, brendajf@bigplanet.com (Brenda J
Freedland) opined:

I am concerned when a photo is associated with a name and/or
address--especially if it is a child. This is a real problem. With
GoogleEarth.com one can find any address, so the addresses are the items
about which to be most concerned.

Having said that, there is a website 555-1212, that is a subscription site.
One can get info by name, address, or phone number, unless the phone number
is not listed. This is a real problem.

I have gone to 5551212 to get someone's address and then gone to GoogleEarth
to see where they live. Predators have the same ability. We're between a
rock and a hard place.

Brenda Freedland Pangborn
This is indeed worrying.

You can do pretty much the same thing using the printed telephone
directory that you, your parents, and your grandparents (and all
predators) have had available for a century, but nobody thought to
worry until the same information got online so you can see it on a
monitor screen.
--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
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Re: RE : frenchsig digest: October 27, 2005 #france

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Dear French Siggenners
from my experience on tracing children deportees and adults is to ask
for the copy of the birth certificate ( complete not an excerpt) at the
"Tribunal" by asking the "procureur de la Republique" (I guess the equivalent
would be for the US the D.A. but our legal systems are much different)for a
derogation.

Each time I did it worked.
I had a lot more trouble with the town halls.
As I answered to Peter, that's What I would do. Anyone in Paris willing
to help Peter be welcome.

Manuela Wyler
Lyon
France
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Dear French Siggenners
from my experience on tracing children deportees and adults is to ask
for the copy of the birth certificate ( complete not an excerpt) at the
"Tribunal" by asking the "procureur de la Republique" (I guess the equivalent
would be for the US the D.A. but our legal systems are much different)for a
derogation.

Each time I did it worked.
I had a lot more trouble with the town halls.
As I answered to Peter, that's What I would do. Anyone in Paris willing
to help Peter be welcome.

Manuela Wyler
Lyon
France
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Subject: Paris Birth Records
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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:05:28 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1
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Paris
VI, that might provide me with - among other things - the names of
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Re: ester Simon #france

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

There are 9 places named St-Medard (with a "D") in France, and 17
places named St-Medard followed with another name... Do you know in
which French "department" was "your" St-Medard ?

Eve Line Blum
Besancon
----------

At 10:08 -0200 28/10/05, Leonardo Futuro wrote:
I am looking up information on my great grandmother, her name was
Esther SIMON, daughter of Pierre SIMON and Adelina BAC, she was born
at a place called St Medart (1.5.1872), has a sister called Rachel and
a brother called Daniel. Any clues of how I can get more information
about the family, did the area of St Medart have a large Jewish
population at the time?

Thanks,
Leonardo
--
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Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
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French SIG #France Re: ester Simon #france

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

There are 9 places named St-Medard (with a "D") in France, and 17
places named St-Medard followed with another name... Do you know in
which French "department" was "your" St-Medard ?

Eve Line Blum
Besancon
----------

At 10:08 -0200 28/10/05, Leonardo Futuro wrote:
I am looking up information on my great grandmother, her name was
Esther SIMON, daughter of Pierre SIMON and Adelina BAC, she was born
at a place called St Medart (1.5.1872), has a sister called Rachel and
a brother called Daniel. Any clues of how I can get more information
about the family, did the area of St Medart have a large Jewish
population at the time?

Thanks,
Leonardo
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Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
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Re: German Reparations #hungary

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Henry Lifton" <henlif@elsfl.com> wrote
I understand that after the war in Amberg, Germany, my uncle lived in the
Yiddisha Geminda (?). Before he came here, he filled out some papers and
the
Germans started sending checks after he arrived here. This organization is
called something like Landesenshadigengsamt >from Munich.

He had to fill out some papers there to get this money. On those papers
might be his parents names.

Does anyone know about this organization and how to get the records?
Here is the address of the Jewish community in Amberg:

Israelitische Kultusgemeinde Amberg
Salzgasse5
92224 Amberg
Germany

Their phone number is 09621/13140.


--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: German Reparations #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Henry Lifton" <henlif@elsfl.com> wrote
I understand that after the war in Amberg, Germany, my uncle lived in the
Yiddisha Geminda (?). Before he came here, he filled out some papers and
the
Germans started sending checks after he arrived here. This organization is
called something like Landesenshadigengsamt >from Munich.

He had to fill out some papers there to get this money. On those papers
might be his parents names.

Does anyone know about this organization and how to get the records?
Here is the address of the Jewish community in Amberg:

Israelitische Kultusgemeinde Amberg
Salzgasse5
92224 Amberg
Germany

Their phone number is 09621/13140.


--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)


Miskolc Cemetery: Lorincz inquiry #hungary

John J Kovacs <j.kovacs@...>
 

Miri Klein is asking for assistance about her Lorincz
family. This response deals with her Miskolc family
inquiry and the Miskolc cemetery.
1. In the Miskolc Yiskor Book two persons that may be
of interest are mentioned: Lorincz Marton 1895 and
Ozv. Lorinc Jozsefne 1863 (widow of Jozsef Lorinc).
2. Miskolc Cemetery: A list of people buried there
is available at the cemetery in alphabetical order
starting with 1904. I do not know of any list that
one could search, other than the book at the cemetery.

To find graves, even after one finds the location in
the cemetery book is not easy. The cemetery itself is
not easy to get to.

I was at the cemetery this year and copied most names
with the letter "M."
Thus, it should be possible to get the entire cemetery
book copied and eventually put on the Internet.
Additionally, a good part of the cemetery, especially
from the 19Th century, needs to be cleaned up as I was
told that it is not easily accessible.
Cleaning up a grave >from the 20Th century: for one
grave >from 1924, that was accessible, they asked
$40.00 for clean up. In Budapest I paid $50.00 for
the clean up of a 1930s grave that was accessible.

If descendants of Miskolc are interested in getting
the cemetery list of names copied and doing some clean
up work there they should contact me directly as I
plan to further pursue this matter when I am in
Miskolc again next year.
John (Janos) Kovacs


Hungarian translation please #hungary

Marian Brown
 

Can someone translate this notation on an 1905 marriage record?

Sarospatak rabbi natustol bironyit vany a Kassan kisdetes elengedtetett.

This phrase is under the column heading : "Hol es hanyazor tortent a
kihirdetes?

Thank you very much,

Marian Brown
Cincinnati, OH


Book-Slovak Jews (1933) #hungary

Gabriela Svatos
 

While visiting the Nitra archive this summer we had good fortune to see a
glimpse of pre-WWII Jewish life in Slovakia through the pages of this very
rare book. It had been in a private collection, but fortunately the widow
of the collector passed this treasure on to the archives for future
generations to study:

Title: Szlovenszkoi zsido hitkozsegei tortenete (History of the Jewish
Communities of Slovakia).
Author: Lanyi Menyhert-Propperne Bekefi Hermin,
Published: Kassa, 1933.

This book has beautiful black and white plates, and is broken down by
localities, giving a history of each community.

It's too bad that so few copies exist:((

Gabi



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Richmond Hill, Ontario
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Miskolc Cemetery: Lorincz inquiry #hungary

John J Kovacs <j.kovacs@...>
 

Miri Klein is asking for assistance about her Lorincz
family. This response deals with her Miskolc family
inquiry and the Miskolc cemetery.
1. In the Miskolc Yiskor Book two persons that may be
of interest are mentioned: Lorincz Marton 1895 and
Ozv. Lorinc Jozsefne 1863 (widow of Jozsef Lorinc).
2. Miskolc Cemetery: A list of people buried there
is available at the cemetery in alphabetical order
starting with 1904. I do not know of any list that
one could search, other than the book at the cemetery.

To find graves, even after one finds the location in
the cemetery book is not easy. The cemetery itself is
not easy to get to.

I was at the cemetery this year and copied most names
with the letter "M."
Thus, it should be possible to get the entire cemetery
book copied and eventually put on the Internet.
Additionally, a good part of the cemetery, especially
from the 19Th century, needs to be cleaned up as I was
told that it is not easily accessible.
Cleaning up a grave >from the 20Th century: for one
grave >from 1924, that was accessible, they asked
$40.00 for clean up. In Budapest I paid $50.00 for
the clean up of a 1930s grave that was accessible.

If descendants of Miskolc are interested in getting
the cemetery list of names copied and doing some clean
up work there they should contact me directly as I
plan to further pursue this matter when I am in
Miskolc again next year.
John (Janos) Kovacs