On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 07:38:47 -0400, Hilary Henkin wrote:

"Of my four grandparents, two were >from Dnepropetrovsk, in the middle Ukraine.
Fully half of my ancestry. While Kiev is fairly accessible, Dnep. is virtually
closed. Letters have been written, contacts made with people of some authority,
and links via a sister-city program, but absolutely no success or progress. I'd
hoped (and *still* hope) that we could engage the Jewish community there, and
provide them with a (much-needed) source of income, in return for finding the
documents we crave. We haven't even been able to find someone to begin the
process."

There have been many postings on this subject. I responded to Hilary and I think
it might be generally useful to the discussion group if they try my successful
efforts.

Do what I did to find my family. Explore internet commercial ads >from your city
of interest. Find an ad in English that lists an email with a familiar Jewish
name. Then, send them an email to see if they would be of assistance. It took me
many months of searching to find help. But it opened up 70 years of family
separation. Contact me for more details.

Morris Blaher
Apopka, FL (Orlando)
budblaher@earthlink.net

On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 07:38:47 -0400, Hilary Henkin wrote:

"Of my four grandparents, two were >from Dnepropetrovsk, in the middle Ukraine.
Fully half of my ancestry. While Kiev is fairly accessible, Dnep. is virtually
closed. Letters have been written, contacts made with people of some authority,
and links via a sister-city program, but absolutely no success or progress. I'd
hoped (and *still* hope) that we could engage the Jewish community there, and
provide them with a (much-needed) source of income, in return for finding the
documents we crave. We haven't even been able to find someone to begin the
process."

There have been many postings on this subject. I responded to Hilary and I think
it might be generally useful to the discussion group if they try my successful
efforts.

Do what I did to find my family. Explore internet commercial ads >from your city
of interest. Find an ad in English that lists an email with a familiar Jewish
name. Then, send them an email to see if they would be of assistance. It took me
many months of searching to find help. But it opened up 70 years of family
separation. Contact me for more details.

Morris Blaher
Apopka, FL (Orlando)
budblaher@earthlink.net

I have read on web sites, and was additionally informed by a Jewish funeral home
that buries there, that there were no burials in the Dalton Jewish Cemetery prior
to 1929.

I have however, found my GGM's grave there with a 1924 inscription on the stone! I
have validated the date via here obit in the newspaper.

As such, it is reasonable to believe that the 1929 date bantered about as
inception date is not correct.

I hope this information is useful to those who may have passed on this cemetery in
their searchs due to the 1929 date.

If anyone had additional information as to the actual date of opening, I would be
interested in your information.

I have read on web sites, and was additionally informed by a Jewish funeral home
that buries there, that there were no burials in the Dalton Jewish Cemetery prior
to 1929.

I have however, found my GGM's grave there with a 1924 inscription on the stone! I
have validated the date via here obit in the newspaper.

As such, it is reasonable to believe that the 1929 date bantered about as
inception date is not correct.

I hope this information is useful to those who may have passed on this cemetery in
their searchs due to the 1929 date.

If anyone had additional information as to the actual date of opening, I would be
interested in your information.

It is in Romania. Viseul de Sus is the name in Rumanian; Felsoviso is
the Hungarian name. At the time of birth it was in Mamaerous county, in
Hungary, then part of the Austria-Hungary Empire. You might want to
check "Sefer di Sheyne Farangenheyt in Marmoroush" (In Yiddish) and
"Sefer Mamorousch" (Hebrew) both available at the Jewish Division of the
42nd Street Library in Manhattan.

Larry Tauber
New York
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It is in Romania. Viseul de Sus is the name in Rumanian; Felsoviso is
the Hungarian name. At the time of birth it was in Mamaerous county, in
Hungary, then part of the Austria-Hungary Empire. You might want to
check "Sefer di Sheyne Farangenheyt in Marmoroush" (In Yiddish) and
"Sefer Mamorousch" (Hebrew) both available at the Jewish Division of the
42nd Street Library in Manhattan.

Larry Tauber
New York
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I am researching the family of Manfred Wall(s) who
came to the United States c 1700 and was supposed to
have been born in England. He is believed to have sons
Thomas and/or Samuel.

I am not familiar with research in other countries and
am not that good at internet research.

Sarah Wall

Researching: Wall, Walls, Fultz, Foltz, Voltz,
Ponstler, Poncler, Shattuck, Walker, Purdum, Cottrill,
Sherrow, Sharro, Da Valle, Du Val

I am researching the family of Manfred Wall(s) who
came to the United States c 1700 and was supposed to
have been born in England. He is believed to have sons
Thomas and/or Samuel.

I am not familiar with research in other countries and
am not that good at internet research.

Sarah Wall

Researching: Wall, Walls, Fultz, Foltz, Voltz,
Ponstler, Poncler, Shattuck, Walker, Purdum, Cottrill,
Sherrow, Sharro, Da Valle, Du Val

Thank you for the invitation to reintroduce myself.

I only learnt that my mother's family are Jewish 18 months ago, at the age
of 53. I joined this group immediately I learnt about my Jewish roots. The
group have given me invaluable advice. The following is what I have learnt
so far.

My mother is Efriede POLLITZER, b.1916, in Vienna.

My mgf is Leopold POLLITZER, b.1873 in Vienna. He was deported >from Vienna
on 12.03.1941 to Lagow/Opatow. No further firm information about him is
available, except that he either died in either of these two small towns or
at Treblinka.

Leopold's father is Hermann POLLITZER, b.about 1839 in Frauenkirchen,
Burgenland. Hermann came to Vienna in 1867. I have yet to establish the
date of his death. Hermann's father is Leopold.

Leopold's mother is Fanny UCKS, b.about 1838 in Staedtl-Hamschau, Prussian
Silesia. She died in Vienna in 1920. Fanny's father is Joseph.

Leopold had one sister, Martha, b.1879. Martha married Leopold WAHRINGER.
Leopold died in 1930. Martha was deported on 14.09.1942 to Maly Trostinec,
where she was killed. Martha and Leopold had two children, Freidrich,
b.1915 and Margarethe, b.1909. Freidrich married but had no children.
Margarethe also married and had a son, Hans Leopold PUTZ, b.1.12.1943. I
have not been able to locate Mr Putz to date.

My mgm is Valerie SINGER, b.1882. My mother states that she was born in a
village called Muehlbach, near Krems, but I have yet to establish this.
Valerie moved with her parents to Vienna in 1892. My grandparents married
in Bratislava in 1907. Valerie was deported >from Vienna to Theresienstadt
on 24.09.1942 and >from Theresienstadt to Auschwitz on 16.05.1944, where she
presumably died.

Valerie's father is Emmanuel SINGER, b.1850 Althart, near Retz in Lower
Austria. He died in 1907 in Vienna.

Valerie's mother is Julie STEINER, b.1859 Weitersfeld, Lower Austria. Julie
was deported >from Vienna on 09.10.1942 to Theresienstadt, where she died 4
weeks later. Julie has several siblings, including Hugo, Katie and Irma.
Irma was apparently deported, but survived. Hugo was apparently not
deported. Another, unknown sibling and his /her family managed to escape

from Austria.

If anyone knows of any connections, I would very much appreciate hearing

from you.

Dominique Dubois
London, UK

POLLITZER, Frauenkirchen, Vienna.
SINGER, Retz, Krems, Vienna.
STEINER, Weitersfeld, Krems, Vienna.
WAHRINGER, Vienna.

Thank you for the invitation to reintroduce myself.

I only learnt that my mother's family are Jewish 18 months ago, at the age
of 53. I joined this group immediately I learnt about my Jewish roots. The
group have given me invaluable advice. The following is what I have learnt
so far.

My mother is Efriede POLLITZER, b.1916, in Vienna.

My mgf is Leopold POLLITZER, b.1873 in Vienna. He was deported >from Vienna
on 12.03.1941 to Lagow/Opatow. No further firm information about him is
available, except that he either died in either of these two small towns or
at Treblinka.

Leopold's father is Hermann POLLITZER, b.about 1839 in Frauenkirchen,
Burgenland. Hermann came to Vienna in 1867. I have yet to establish the
date of his death. Hermann's father is Leopold.

Leopold's mother is Fanny UCKS, b.about 1838 in Staedtl-Hamschau, Prussian
Silesia. She died in Vienna in 1920. Fanny's father is Joseph.

Leopold had one sister, Martha, b.1879. Martha married Leopold WAHRINGER.
Leopold died in 1930. Martha was deported on 14.09.1942 to Maly Trostinec,
where she was killed. Martha and Leopold had two children, Freidrich,
b.1915 and Margarethe, b.1909. Freidrich married but had no children.
Margarethe also married and had a son, Hans Leopold PUTZ, b.1.12.1943. I
have not been able to locate Mr Putz to date.

My mgm is Valerie SINGER, b.1882. My mother states that she was born in a
village called Muehlbach, near Krems, but I have yet to establish this.
Valerie moved with her parents to Vienna in 1892. My grandparents married
in Bratislava in 1907. Valerie was deported >from Vienna to Theresienstadt
on 24.09.1942 and >from Theresienstadt to Auschwitz on 16.05.1944, where she
presumably died.

Valerie's father is Emmanuel SINGER, b.1850 Althart, near Retz in Lower
Austria. He died in 1907 in Vienna.

Valerie's mother is Julie STEINER, b.1859 Weitersfeld, Lower Austria. Julie
was deported >from Vienna on 09.10.1942 to Theresienstadt, where she died 4
weeks later. Julie has several siblings, including Hugo, Katie and Irma.
Irma was apparently deported, but survived. Hugo was apparently not
deported. Another, unknown sibling and his /her family managed to escape

from Austria.

If anyone knows of any connections, I would very much appreciate hearing

from you.

Dominique Dubois
London, UK

POLLITZER, Frauenkirchen, Vienna.
SINGER, Retz, Krems, Vienna.
STEINER, Weitersfeld, Krems, Vienna.
WAHRINGER, Vienna.

Peter Bakos writes: "I do not believe that these
people came >from somewhere else [ie other than
Podwinecz] as there are none of them anywhere else, at
least so far.
If one accepts that most Jewish families had to adopt
"western" family names at around the time of the early
18th century, then I have to believe that these folks,
apparently a Jakob PODWINECZ [PODWINETZ], living
around 1725 took a name having to do with some
geographic connection. Maybe he just walked by ... and
liked the name better than what was on the list. The
fact there are only PODWINETZ near to where there is a
place called Podwinetz suggests that this is the
case."

My reply can be taken as an *unexpected* Part III to
my *Schutzjuden* postings:

We know >from the census of 1793 that the PODWINETZ
family was living in Jung-Bunzlau - we also know that
Lobl PODWINETZ, a Schutzjude >from Jung-Bunzlau married
Eva KISCH >from Bohmische Leipa in 1774. Both appeared
to have family names by 1774.

Both Bohmische Leipa [Ceska Lipa] and Podwinecz [the
village with no Jews in 1793 - see footnote] are in
the Leitmeritzer Kreis whereas Jung-Bunzlau is in the
Bunzlauer Kreis. They are about 75 km apart.

What is entirely possible is that the PODWINETZ family
of Jung-Bunzlau originally came >from Bohmische Leipa
or indeed Podwinecz, hence Lobl married a home-town
girl - perhaps even a cousin or a distant relative?

If you study these naming conventions, you generally
find no WOTTITZ in Wottitz, no BISENZ in Bisenz, no
TREBITSCH in Trebitsch, no TEPLITZ in Teplitz, no
BUNZL in Jung-Bunzlau and no KOLIN in Kolin etc.

from my brief view of the 1783 census I have seen

things like Joseph der WOTTITZER { or *aus Wottitz*}
when living in Kolin and they are 100 km apart. If
Joseph never returned to Wottitz, the name probably
stuck. Hence, Jakob *aus Podwinecz* or der PODWINETZER
when he moved to Jung-Bunzlau in the late 1600s or
early 1700s, to distinguish him >from the many other
Jakobs living in Jung-Bunzlau.

The early Schutzherren {Lord of the Manor] of
Jung-Bunzlau were the Waldstein family [better known
as Wallenstein], who merit a chapter of their own; nb
their relationship to the Kaunitz family in this tree:

http://tinyurl.com/7gy8q

The Wallensteins also became the Schutzherren of
Bohmische Leipa and environs inc. Podwinecz in 1623
after confiscating the estates >from their previous
protestant owners. The first count Wallenstein [a
protestant convert to Catholicism] notoriously bought
at a *knock-down price*, sixty large estates, which
together make him Lord of the whole of North Eastern
Bohemia. Hence there could be ready interchangeability
between the domains of Jung-Bunzlau, Bohmische Leipa
and Podwinecz, if permission was granted by the
Wallenstein family. As there were no Jews in Podwinecz
in 1793, perhaps the Wallensteins and their successors
had decided well before then, to move all the Jews

from that village to others inc. the town of

Jung-Bunzlau? That was their prerogative.

I now know that all this data will probably have been
documented and preserved in the Lobkovitz/Lobkowicz
archives in Zitenice, Litomerice, I wrote about a few
days ago: http://tinyurl.com/chto8

The fact that the two communities are linked is
substantiated by a reference to an edict I have found:
The Jews of Bohmische Leipa, Jung-Bunzlau and Raudnitz
could not be elected as members of the self-governing
community within 6 years of their first marriage. This
was ordained by the Schutzherr, by then a Lobkovic,
and his advisors on 4 April 1680 - as found in a
document in the Zitenice Archives mentioned above
[Footnote 2].

Furhermore we found the following reference: [thank
you as always, Hanus Grab for the translation from
Czech]:

There was a very close relationship between the Jewish
communities of Bohmisch Leipa and Jung-Bunzlau. In
the second Prussian-Austrian war of 1744, the Austrian
troops abetted by the local Christians of Bohmisch
Leipa instigated a terrible pogrom on the 9th December
[4 Tewet]. When the troops retreated, the murdered and
maimed citizens >from Bohmisch Leipa were buried on the

21st December [21 Tewet] with the help of the
Community of Jung-Bunzlau.

When Wallenstein died in 1634, his only daughter
married a Kaunitz [>from Moravia] and this meant that
Bohmische Leipa fell into Kaunitz hands and thus
became closely linked to the other Kaunitz estates
including those at Austerlitz [Slavkov] in Moravia.

We need to study the Schutzherren, as well as the
Schutzjuden living on their estates, to understand
more clearly what was going on in Bohemia and Moravia,
especially in the 1600-1800s and how/why the families
moved >from one area to another.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnotes:
1. Correction: Yesterday I wrote: One has to presume,
that in that era at least, there were no Jews living
there [Podwinecz]. This is confirmed by the fact that
the village is on the comprehensive list provided by
Felix Gundacker on our own website:

http://www.jewishgen.org/bohmor/towns/gundframe1.html


It should of course have read: that the village is
*not* on the comprehensive list etc

2. Hana Legnerova: Self-Government of Jewish
Communities in Nobility-Owned Towns in the Second Half
of the Seventeenth and Beginning of the Eighteenth
Centuries: Judaica Bohemiae (XXXIX/2003)

Peter Bakos writes: "I do not believe that these
people came >from somewhere else [ie other than
Podwinecz] as there are none of them anywhere else, at
least so far.
If one accepts that most Jewish families had to adopt
"western" family names at around the time of the early
18th century, then I have to believe that these folks,
apparently a Jakob PODWINECZ [PODWINETZ], living
around 1725 took a name having to do with some
geographic connection. Maybe he just walked by ... and
liked the name better than what was on the list. The
fact there are only PODWINETZ near to where there is a
place called Podwinetz suggests that this is the
case."

My reply can be taken as an *unexpected* Part III to
my *Schutzjuden* postings:

We know >from the census of 1793 that the PODWINETZ
family was living in Jung-Bunzlau - we also know that
Lobl PODWINETZ, a Schutzjude >from Jung-Bunzlau married
Eva KISCH >from Bohmische Leipa in 1774. Both appeared
to have family names by 1774.

Both Bohmische Leipa [Ceska Lipa] and Podwinecz [the
village with no Jews in 1793 - see footnote] are in
the Leitmeritzer Kreis whereas Jung-Bunzlau is in the
Bunzlauer Kreis. They are about 75 km apart.

What is entirely possible is that the PODWINETZ family
of Jung-Bunzlau originally came >from Bohmische Leipa
or indeed Podwinecz, hence Lobl married a home-town
girl - perhaps even a cousin or a distant relative?

If you study these naming conventions, you generally
find no WOTTITZ in Wottitz, no BISENZ in Bisenz, no
TREBITSCH in Trebitsch, no TEPLITZ in Teplitz, no
BUNZL in Jung-Bunzlau and no KOLIN in Kolin etc.

from my brief view of the 1783 census I have seen

things like Joseph der WOTTITZER { or *aus Wottitz*}
when living in Kolin and they are 100 km apart. If
Joseph never returned to Wottitz, the name probably
stuck. Hence, Jakob *aus Podwinecz* or der PODWINETZER
when he moved to Jung-Bunzlau in the late 1600s or
early 1700s, to distinguish him >from the many other
Jakobs living in Jung-Bunzlau.

The early Schutzherren {Lord of the Manor] of
Jung-Bunzlau were the Waldstein family [better known
as Wallenstein], who merit a chapter of their own; nb
their relationship to the Kaunitz family in this tree:

http://tinyurl.com/7gy8q

The Wallensteins also became the Schutzherren of
Bohmische Leipa and environs inc. Podwinecz in 1623
after confiscating the estates >from their previous
protestant owners. The first count Wallenstein [a
protestant convert to Catholicism] notoriously bought
at a *knock-down price*, sixty large estates, which
together make him Lord of the whole of North Eastern
Bohemia. Hence there could be ready interchangeability
between the domains of Jung-Bunzlau, Bohmische Leipa
and Podwinecz, if permission was granted by the
Wallenstein family. As there were no Jews in Podwinecz
in 1793, perhaps the Wallensteins and their successors
had decided well before then, to move all the Jews

from that village to others inc. the town of

Jung-Bunzlau? That was their prerogative.

I now know that all this data will probably have been
documented and preserved in the Lobkovitz/Lobkowicz
archives in Zitenice, Litomerice, I wrote about a few
days ago: http://tinyurl.com/chto8

The fact that the two communities are linked is
substantiated by a reference to an edict I have found:
The Jews of Bohmische Leipa, Jung-Bunzlau and Raudnitz
could not be elected as members of the self-governing
community within 6 years of their first marriage. This
was ordained by the Schutzherr, by then a Lobkovic,
and his advisors on 4 April 1680 - as found in a
document in the Zitenice Archives mentioned above
[Footnote 2].

Furhermore we found the following reference: [thank
you as always, Hanus Grab for the translation from
Czech]:

There was a very close relationship between the Jewish
communities of Bohmisch Leipa and Jung-Bunzlau. In
the second Prussian-Austrian war of 1744, the Austrian
troops abetted by the local Christians of Bohmisch
Leipa instigated a terrible pogrom on the 9th December
[4 Tewet]. When the troops retreated, the murdered and
maimed citizens >from Bohmisch Leipa were buried on the

21st December [21 Tewet] with the help of the
Community of Jung-Bunzlau.

When Wallenstein died in 1634, his only daughter
married a Kaunitz [>from Moravia] and this meant that
Bohmische Leipa fell into Kaunitz hands and thus
became closely linked to the other Kaunitz estates
including those at Austerlitz [Slavkov] in Moravia.

We need to study the Schutzherren, as well as the
Schutzjuden living on their estates, to understand
more clearly what was going on in Bohemia and Moravia,
especially in the 1600-1800s and how/why the families
moved >from one area to another.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnotes:
1. Correction: Yesterday I wrote: One has to presume,
that in that era at least, there were no Jews living
there [Podwinecz]. This is confirmed by the fact that
the village is on the comprehensive list provided by
Felix Gundacker on our own website:

http://www.jewishgen.org/bohmor/towns/gundframe1.html


It should of course have read: that the village is
*not* on the comprehensive list etc

2. Hana Legnerova: Self-Government of Jewish
Communities in Nobility-Owned Towns in the Second Half
of the Seventeenth and Beginning of the Eighteenth
Centuries: Judaica Bohemiae (XXXIX/2003)

Hi,

I have an uncle that married in Barsana (Barczanfalva)
Romania in 1884. The records record his place of birth as
Viguel de Sus or Felso Viso.

Does anybody have any idea where this is and what it is
called today?

Thanks!
Moishe Miller
moishe@langsam.com
Brooklyn, NY

Hi,

I have an uncle that married in Barsana (Barczanfalva)
Romania in 1884. The records record his place of birth as
Viguel de Sus or Felso Viso.

Does anybody have any idea where this is and what it is
called today?

Thanks!
Moishe Miller
moishe@langsam.com
Brooklyn, NY

Hello,

I have posted on viewmate Galician records received through
JRI-Poland for HABER family. In all I have received about a
dozen records for this family which have greatly helped in
clarifying and expanding information I already had. I'm now feel
confident that the first generations of this tree are close to
the truth and want to express my thanks to JRI-Poland, Viewmate
and the wonderful people who give so freely of their time for
those functions and to translate these documents for us.

Here are the records I've posted:
Birth record for Ruchel Haber, pg 1 & 2; Ruchel is the last entry
on this page
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6804
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6805

Birth record for Schlomo Wolf Schwarz, pg 1 & 2; Schlomo is the
3rd entry on this page.
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6806
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6807

Birth Record for Abram Wolf Haber. Abram is the last entry on
this page. Unfortunately this is a poor copy but it was the best
they could provide. Luckily it's only the parents column I'm not
sure of. Thanks for any attempts.
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6808

Please respond to the email on the viewmate pages.

With thanks,

Hazel Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada

Hello,

I have posted on viewmate Galician records received through
JRI-Poland for HABER family. In all I have received about a
dozen records for this family which have greatly helped in
clarifying and expanding information I already had. I'm now feel
confident that the first generations of this tree are close to
the truth and want to express my thanks to JRI-Poland, Viewmate
and the wonderful people who give so freely of their time for
those functions and to translate these documents for us.

Here are the records I've posted:
Birth record for Ruchel Haber, pg 1 & 2; Ruchel is the last entry
on this page
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6804
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6805

Birth record for Schlomo Wolf Schwarz, pg 1 & 2; Schlomo is the
3rd entry on this page.
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6806
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6807

Birth Record for Abram Wolf Haber. Abram is the last entry on
this page. Unfortunately this is a poor copy but it was the best
they could provide. Luckily it's only the parents column I'm not
sure of. Thanks for any attempts.
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6808

Please respond to the email on the viewmate pages.

With thanks,

Hazel Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada

I would like to be in touch with the above re research names.
TIA
Judy Earnshaw (nee Wertheimer)
Sorrento, Western Australia
***
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Melbourne has a newspaper called the "Sunday Herald Sun". It has a very large
readership. The newspaper has a column called 'Desperately Seeking' which is for
people searching for things and looking for people. You can contact them in the
following ways -

Write: Desperately Seeking,
Sunday Herald Sun,
PO Box 14634,
Melbourne, 8001.
Fax: (03) 9292 2080
Email: seeking@sundayheraldsun.com.au
No attachments please.
Please supply phone number or address for publication.

There is a long waiting list, so be patient if you send them a message. Keep it
short and precise. The range of items being sought range >from crockery to people,
and everything in between.

Doug Mason
Melbourne
Australia

Hello,

I have posted on viewmate Galician records received through JRI-Poland for HABER
family. In all I have received about a dozen records for this family which have
greatly helped in clarifying and expanding information I already had. I'm now
feel confident that the first generations of this tree are close to the truth and
want to express my thanks to JRI-Poland, Viewmate and the wonderful people who
give so freely of their time for those functions and to translate these documents
for us.

Here are the records I've posted:
Birth record for Ruchel Haber, pg 1 & 2; Ruchel is the last entry on this page
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6804
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6805

Birth record for Schlomo Wolf Schwarz, pg 1 & 2; Schlomo is the 3rd entry on this
page.
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6806
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6807

Birth Record for Abram Wolf Haber. Abram is the last entry on this page.
Unfortunately this is a poor copy but it was the best they could provide. Luckily
it's only the parents column I'm not sure of. Thanks for any attempts.
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=6808

Please respond to the email on the viewmate pages.

With thanks,

Hazel Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada

I would like to be in touch with the above re research names.
TIA
Judy Earnshaw (nee Wertheimer)
Sorrento, Western Australia
***
MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.