Hi All,

I am trying to located descendents of Zusman (Sigmond) HAAS B. 1841 and his
wife Leah (Roza) SCHWARCZ B. 1847 >from Sarospatak, Hungary. They got married
on Dec. 11, 1866. Some or all family members immigrated to the USA. They had
7 children that I know of.

Tini HAAS b. 1867 married to Herman FELDMESSER
Terezia (Rezi) HAAS b. 1870 married to Solomon GRUN
Aser HAAS 1847 - 1877
Marton HAAS b. 1876
Betti HAAS 1880 - 1954 married Zvi Herman Hersch SCHWEIGER
Szali HAAS b. 1882
Pepi HAAS b. 1884

Thank You

Henry Schwartz

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Hi All,

I am trying to located descendents of Zusman (Sigmond) HAAS B. 1841 and his
wife Leah (Roza) SCHWARCZ B. 1847 >from Sarospatak, Hungary. They got married
on Dec. 11, 1866. Some or all family members immigrated to the USA. They had
7 children that I know of.

Tini HAAS b. 1867 married to Herman FELDMESSER
Terezia (Rezi) HAAS b. 1870 married to Solomon GRUN
Aser HAAS 1847 - 1877
Marton HAAS b. 1876
Betti HAAS 1880 - 1954 married Zvi Herman Hersch SCHWEIGER
Szali HAAS b. 1882
Pepi HAAS b. 1884

Thank You

Henry Schwartz

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and include your place of residence with your signature.
Thank you! Moderator on Duty

On 2005.09.03, Mark Weinberg <m_weinberg@verizon.net> wrote:

Family legend has it that my ggggf Israel Joseph WEINBERG was Chief
Rabbi of Jerusalem in the 1870s. I believe he was an Ashkenazic
Jew, born in Polish Russia.
I've been researching for a few months now and have not been able
to find any reference to my ggggf in historical documents [...]

What you were told may have been wishful thinking. I had an
experience several years ago when I was contacted by an individual
in Paris who asked me to research his ancestor who was a rabbi in
Jerusalem in the late 1800s and who, according to this person, was
on the Bet-Din of Rav Shmuel Salanter the Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem.
(I may be mixed up on whether it was Israel or Shmuel).

In short, after an extensive search in the national library in
Jerusalem, I found that the ancestor was a sofer sta"m (religious
scribe), had lived in Jerusalem at the time of Rav Salant, and had
to leave Jerusalem under unpleasant circumstances. The father of
this ancestor seems also to have been a rabbi (or atleast referred
to as such by one of the Hebrew newspapers of the time).

One of the leads you can check is with the Chevra Kaddisha of
Jerusalem (start with the Klali) and see if they have a registry on
him. You need his Hebrew name and his father's name and approx.
date of birth.

Yoni Ben-Ari
Efrat, Israel

On 2005.09.03, Mark Weinberg <m_weinberg@verizon.net> wrote:

Family legend has it that my ggggf Israel Joseph WEINBERG was Chief
Rabbi of Jerusalem in the 1870s. I believe he was an Ashkenazic
Jew, born in Polish Russia.
I've been researching for a few months now and have not been able
to find any reference to my ggggf in historical documents [...]

What you were told may have been wishful thinking. I had an
experience several years ago when I was contacted by an individual
in Paris who asked me to research his ancestor who was a rabbi in
Jerusalem in the late 1800s and who, according to this person, was
on the Bet-Din of Rav Shmuel Salanter the Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem.
(I may be mixed up on whether it was Israel or Shmuel).

In short, after an extensive search in the national library in
Jerusalem, I found that the ancestor was a sofer sta"m (religious
scribe), had lived in Jerusalem at the time of Rav Salant, and had
to leave Jerusalem under unpleasant circumstances. The father of
this ancestor seems also to have been a rabbi (or atleast referred
to as such by one of the Hebrew newspapers of the time).

One of the leads you can check is with the Chevra Kaddisha of
Jerusalem (start with the Klali) and see if they have a registry on
him. You need his Hebrew name and his father's name and approx.
date of birth.

Yoni Ben-Ari
Efrat, Israel

I recently learned of my great-great-grandparents Anna LEFKOVICS and
Izak (Benjamin Yitzhak haKohen) KOHN. They probably lived in what is
now eastern Slovakia, possibly near Michalovce (Nagymihaly) in Zemplen
or Sobrance (Szobrancz) in Ung megye. Their daughter Sara (Sali), my
great-grandmother, was born in 1846 and married Markus (Mordechai,
Marek) MOSKOVITS whose family lived in Szobrancz and Ungvar. In the
Michalovce cemetery I also found a grave for Ruchel (Roza) MOSKOVITS
(1832-1918) daughter of Yosef LEFKOVITS. She might have been my
great-grandmother's cousin. Please get in touch if any of these names
sound familiar.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
vkahn@kmort.com

Hi Siggers,

I'm hoping to confirm a relationship to an Abraham Czeisler, whose name =
I
found on a Budapest muster roll. There is a brief note written but I =
can't
read it. I'm hoping some kind soul will tell me what it says so I can =
see if
it gives me additional clues. It is posted on Viewmate VM6801.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, AZ
picturethisfilm@email.com
Seeking: ZEISLER/CZEISLER; LOWY; UNGAR. GROEDEL; WEINER; ERNST/ECSEDI =
(Eger,
DiosGyor, Kazincz, Ga'cs, Marmarross, Budapest, Szolnok; Szentes; =
Kapolna;
Tarnamera, Ujfalu; Vacs)

Hi All,

I am trying to located descendents of Zusman (Sigmond) Haas B. 1841 and his
wife Leah (Roza) Schwarcz B. 1847 >from Sarospatak, Hungary. They got married
on Dec. 11, 1866. Some or all family members immigrated to the USA. They had
7 children that I know of.

Tini Haas b. 1867 married to Herman Feldmessner
Terezia (Rezi) Haas b. 1870 married to Solomon Grun
Aser Haas 1847 - 1877
Marton Haas b. 1876
Betti Haas 1880 - 1954 married Zvi Herman Hersch Schweiger
Szali Haas b. 1882
Pepi Haas b. 1884

Thank You

Henry Schwartz

I recently learned of my great-great-grandparents Anna LEFKOVICS and
Izak (Benjamin Yitzhak haKohen) KOHN. They probably lived in what is
now eastern Slovakia, possibly near Michalovce (Nagymihaly) in Zemplen
or Sobrance (Szobrancz) in Ung megye. Their daughter Sara (Sali), my
great-grandmother, was born in 1846 and married Markus (Mordechai,
Marek) MOSKOVITS whose family lived in Szobrancz and Ungvar. In the
Michalovce cemetery I also found a grave for Ruchel (Roza) MOSKOVITS
(1832-1918) daughter of Yosef LEFKOVITS. She might have been my
great-grandmother's cousin. Please get in touch if any of these names
sound familiar.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
vkahn@kmort.com

Hi Siggers,

I'm hoping to confirm a relationship to an Abraham Czeisler, whose name =
I
found on a Budapest muster roll. There is a brief note written but I =
can't
read it. I'm hoping some kind soul will tell me what it says so I can =
see if
it gives me additional clues. It is posted on Viewmate VM6801.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, AZ
picturethisfilm@email.com
Seeking: ZEISLER/CZEISLER; LOWY; UNGAR. GROEDEL; WEINER; ERNST/ECSEDI =
(Eger,
DiosGyor, Kazincz, Ga'cs, Marmarross, Budapest, Szolnok; Szentes; =
Kapolna;
Tarnamera, Ujfalu; Vacs)

Hi All,

I am trying to located descendents of Zusman (Sigmond) Haas B. 1841 and his
wife Leah (Roza) Schwarcz B. 1847 >from Sarospatak, Hungary. They got married
on Dec. 11, 1866. Some or all family members immigrated to the USA. They had
7 children that I know of.

Tini Haas b. 1867 married to Herman Feldmessner
Terezia (Rezi) Haas b. 1870 married to Solomon Grun
Aser Haas 1847 - 1877
Marton Haas b. 1876
Betti Haas 1880 - 1954 married Zvi Herman Hersch Schweiger
Szali Haas b. 1882
Pepi Haas b. 1884

Thank You

Henry Schwartz

"Are Bliokh and Bloch spellings used to transliterate
the same name, so that these could be the same
person? "

The family name BLOKH, the last letter is "X" in
Russian could be spelled as BLOCH (old translation
rules). BLIOKH is rather unusual spelling.
I think the best is to write to the translator or
project coordinator and to ask for original record, if
possible.

Irene Kudish
Tel-Aviv, Israel

"Are Bliokh and Bloch spellings used to transliterate
the same name, so that these could be the same
person? "

The family name BLOKH, the last letter is "X" in
Russian could be spelled as BLOCH (old translation
rules). BLIOKH is rather unusual spelling.
I think the best is to write to the translator or
project coordinator and to ask for original record, if
possible.

Irene Kudish
Tel-Aviv, Israel

My GGP are buried in United Hebrew in the oldest block in the cemetery. They
died in 1911 and 1915 and are buried within the same block, but separately.
The director of the cemetery informed me that at that time, and only for the
oldest blocks in the cemetery, it was the practice for Orthodox to bury men
and women separately. This block has separate men and women's sections.

Sam Schleman

My GGP are buried in United Hebrew in the oldest block in the cemetery. They
died in 1911 and 1915 and are buried within the same block, but separately.
The director of the cemetery informed me that at that time, and only for the
oldest blocks in the cemetery, it was the practice for Orthodox to bury men
and women separately. This block has separate men and women's sections.

Sam Schleman

Dear group,
I meant to send this earlier, but forgot it was in my "Out" box.

Yes, it would be very nice indeed if we could find people in our
ancestors' countries to assist us with our research!

Of my four grandparents, two were >from Dnepropetrovsk, in the middle
Ukraine. Fully half of my ancestry. While Kiev is fairly accessible,
Dnep. is virtually closed. Letters have been written, contacts made
with people of some authority, and links via a sister-city program,
but absolutely no success or progress. I'd hoped (and *still* hope)
that we could engage the Jewish community there, and provide them
with a (much-needed) source of income, in return for finding the
documents we crave. We haven't even been able to find someone to
begin the process.
There is a archived-approved commercial service, which will quote a
price only to begin a search, and refuses to provide any other cost
breakdown or estimate, even for a single-record look-up.

I offer huge thanks to those living in Poland, Kiev, etc. who have
been willing to help us.

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia

Dear Genners,

Howie Axelrod asked why an Orthodox Rabbi and his wife are not buried next
to each other. I can only answer by giving an example.

My maternal grandfather and his family came >from Tetiev, Kiev Gub. My
maternal side of the family is buried in the Tetiever Cemetery (Orthodox)
in Cleveland, Ohio. In the old section of the cemetery men and women are
buried in separate rows, but never in the same row. Sometimes the rows
alternate (M-W-M-W) and sometimes they do not.

I imagine that as men and women in Orthodox religious rites when alive are
separate, they are separated in death also.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Cleveland, Ohio
agloger@aol.com

Dear group,
I meant to send this earlier, but forgot it was in my "Out" box.

Yes, it would be very nice indeed if we could find people in our
ancestors' countries to assist us with our research!

Of my four grandparents, two were >from Dnepropetrovsk, in the middle
Ukraine. Fully half of my ancestry. While Kiev is fairly accessible,
Dnep. is virtually closed. Letters have been written, contacts made
with people of some authority, and links via a sister-city program,
but absolutely no success or progress. I'd hoped (and *still* hope)
that we could engage the Jewish community there, and provide them
with a (much-needed) source of income, in return for finding the
documents we crave. We haven't even been able to find someone to
begin the process.
There is a archived-approved commercial service, which will quote a
price only to begin a search, and refuses to provide any other cost
breakdown or estimate, even for a single-record look-up.

I offer huge thanks to those living in Poland, Kiev, etc. who have
been willing to help us.

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia

Dear Genners,

Howie Axelrod asked why an Orthodox Rabbi and his wife are not buried next
to each other. I can only answer by giving an example.

My maternal grandfather and his family came >from Tetiev, Kiev Gub. My
maternal side of the family is buried in the Tetiever Cemetery (Orthodox)
in Cleveland, Ohio. In the old section of the cemetery men and women are
buried in separate rows, but never in the same row. Sometimes the rows
alternate (M-W-M-W) and sometimes they do not.

I imagine that as men and women in Orthodox religious rites when alive are
separate, they are separated in death also.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Cleveland, Ohio
agloger@aol.com

Dear Fellow Researchers:

I would be very grateful if someone would take a look at the following
1866 birth record >from Szczebrzeszyn, Poland. I believe it is in Cyrillic.
The JRI-Poland index indicates this should be the birth of Faywel son
of Moshe & Frieda GEWIRCMAN.
I would like to know the details in the record especially names and
places (as well as exact dates), but I would also like to obtain the
other details in the record.
Any help is appreciated.

The ViewMate file is VM6803, found at the following URL:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6803

I can provide a higher resolution image if helpful. Kindly reply to me
privately at tamar.amit@gmail.com . Thank you.

Tamar Amit, Israel.

Dear Fellow Researchers:

I would be very grateful if someone would take a look at the following
1866 birth record >from Szczebrzeszyn, Poland. I believe it is in Cyrillic.
The JRI-Poland index indicates this should be the birth of Faywel son
of Moshe & Frieda GEWIRCMAN.
I would like to know the details in the record especially names and
places (as well as exact dates), but I would also like to obtain the
other details in the record.
Any help is appreciated.

The ViewMate file is VM6803, found at the following URL:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6803

I can provide a higher resolution image if helpful. Kindly reply to me
privately at tamar.amit@gmail.com . Thank you.

Tamar Amit, Israel.