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Re: Familes from the Old Yishuv in South Africa #southafrica

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

There are many instances where Lithuanian Jews left and went to Palestine
pre-WWII. Once there, they struggled and then some decided to move onto
South Africa. Examples of this can be found in the SA arrival records for
1924-1929. An example in my own family is that of Samuel Choritz who came
to Tel Aviv in 1922 >from Kupiskis, Lithuania, and then left and settled in
Bot River, SA, two years later in 1924 and went back again to Palestine and
returned to SA finally in 1926.

In addition, there is the example of Menachem-Mendel Yodaiken, who left
Lithuania and went to Hadera shortly after it was founded and later came to
SA, although he didn't stay. A number of his children and grandchildren
came and remained in SA.

Another example is the Elkaim family who were long established in Palestine
and who came to Zimbabwe in the 1920's and are still there. There are
others who also came to Zimbabwe.

Others I could mention who came to South Africa are: Max Byala, arrived
from Jaffa in 1912; Moses Halaban, arrived in 1910; Abraham Morris Kaplan,
from Jerusalem; Isaac Leib Manschen, arrived >from Jerusalem in 1922; Jacob
David Menachemson, arrived in 1913; and Michaella Brasofsky Morrison, from
Jerusalem in 1912.

Still others are: Ami Zakai Jack Abrahams, arrived >from Tel Aviv in 1932;
Harry/Abe Carrol, arrived >from Jerusalem; Emanuel Chigier, arrived from
Jerusalem in 1928; Ziporah Maskalik Segal, arrived >from Jerusalem in 1930;
and Joseph Shlain, arrived >from Jerusalem in 1928.

Further examples are the group that did the reverse and went >from SA to
Israel such as Hilda Gesundheit Rokach, 1926, Herzl Zuckerman, 1934, Solly
Friedman, 1935, and Chaia-Pesa Bedil Choritz, 1939.

Following the residence in Palestine of Samuel Choritz in 1922 and
Chaia-Pesa Bedil Choritz, in 1939, a new generation of the Choritz family
has just been established in Israel in 2005 with Bryan, the grandson of
Samuel Choritz, marrying and living there.

The one thing this proves is the tight and binding connection between Israel
and South Africa and the many ties established over the years. I have left
out many names of those who came to SA, but I have limited time, at the
moment, and I am sure there are others who can fill in those names.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica RE: Familes from the Old Yishuv in South Africa #southafrica

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

There are many instances where Lithuanian Jews left and went to Palestine
pre-WWII. Once there, they struggled and then some decided to move onto
South Africa. Examples of this can be found in the SA arrival records for
1924-1929. An example in my own family is that of Samuel Choritz who came
to Tel Aviv in 1922 >from Kupiskis, Lithuania, and then left and settled in
Bot River, SA, two years later in 1924 and went back again to Palestine and
returned to SA finally in 1926.

In addition, there is the example of Menachem-Mendel Yodaiken, who left
Lithuania and went to Hadera shortly after it was founded and later came to
SA, although he didn't stay. A number of his children and grandchildren
came and remained in SA.

Another example is the Elkaim family who were long established in Palestine
and who came to Zimbabwe in the 1920's and are still there. There are
others who also came to Zimbabwe.

Others I could mention who came to South Africa are: Max Byala, arrived
from Jaffa in 1912; Moses Halaban, arrived in 1910; Abraham Morris Kaplan,
from Jerusalem; Isaac Leib Manschen, arrived >from Jerusalem in 1922; Jacob
David Menachemson, arrived in 1913; and Michaella Brasofsky Morrison, from
Jerusalem in 1912.

Still others are: Ami Zakai Jack Abrahams, arrived >from Tel Aviv in 1932;
Harry/Abe Carrol, arrived >from Jerusalem; Emanuel Chigier, arrived from
Jerusalem in 1928; Ziporah Maskalik Segal, arrived >from Jerusalem in 1930;
and Joseph Shlain, arrived >from Jerusalem in 1928.

Further examples are the group that did the reverse and went >from SA to
Israel such as Hilda Gesundheit Rokach, 1926, Herzl Zuckerman, 1934, Solly
Friedman, 1935, and Chaia-Pesa Bedil Choritz, 1939.

Following the residence in Palestine of Samuel Choritz in 1922 and
Chaia-Pesa Bedil Choritz, in 1939, a new generation of the Choritz family
has just been established in Israel in 2005 with Bryan, the grandson of
Samuel Choritz, marrying and living there.

The one thing this proves is the tight and binding connection between Israel
and South Africa and the many ties established over the years. I have left
out many names of those who came to SA, but I have limited time, at the
moment, and I am sure there are others who can fill in those names.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Re: RIVLIN #general

Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
 


In Jerusalem or the 3 other "holy cities" - Safed, Hebron and
Tiberias ,
there was a community known as the Old Yishuv ie who preceded the
modern
Zionist immigration to Israel. There were members of these families
who
migrated over the years , particularly before and after World War
One, to
South Africa.
I am interested in records and family traditions about these
families. The
Old Yishuv was relatively small and many of the families of the Old
Yishuv
were related to one another.

Thanks,
Jules Feldman
Yizreel
jfeldman@yizrael.org.il
Jules, The RIVLIN family is very well known in the Yishuv. Are you
coming to the one day seminar at Beit Hatefutzot on 28 November? If
so, that should provide you with a lot of food for thought and
research!!

Martha Lev-Zion


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: RIVLIN #southafrica

Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
 


In Jerusalem or the 3 other "holy cities" - Safed, Hebron and
Tiberias ,
there was a community known as the Old Yishuv ie who preceded the
modern
Zionist immigration to Israel. There were members of these families
who
migrated over the years , particularly before and after World War
One, to
South Africa.
I am interested in records and family traditions about these
families. The
Old Yishuv was relatively small and many of the families of the Old
Yishuv
were related to one another.

Thanks,
Jules Feldman
Yizreel
jfeldman@yizrael.org.il
Jules, The RIVLIN family is very well known in the Yishuv. Are you
coming to the one day seminar at Beit Hatefutzot on 28 November? If
so, that should provide you with a lot of food for thought and
research!!

Martha Lev-Zion


Belchatow LDS films #lodz #poland

HJB <hjb@...>
 

Hello cousins,

I have 4 films which include Belchatow Birth, Marriage & Death
Records on loan. I will be viewing them on Wednesday and would
be happy to print, scan & email records to assist you with your
research. The films are:

681041 1862-1865
766354 1866-1869
681038 1830-1843
1189029 1870-1873

I will need all information including name, type of record, year
of record and akt.

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Konyushki & Zurów, Galicia (now Zhuriv,
Ukraine), NYC;
STARK - Bóbrka, Galicia (now Ukraine), NYC; BELY - Rzeszów,
Poland
SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY - Belchatów & Lodz, Poland, NYC;
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland, NYC


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Belchatow LDS films #lodz #poland

HJB <hjb@...>
 

Hello cousins,

I have 4 films which include Belchatow Birth, Marriage & Death
Records on loan. I will be viewing them on Wednesday and would
be happy to print, scan & email records to assist you with your
research. The films are:

681041 1862-1865
766354 1866-1869
681038 1830-1843
1189029 1870-1873

I will need all information including name, type of record, year
of record and akt.

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Konyushki & Zurów, Galicia (now Zhuriv,
Ukraine), NYC;
STARK - Bóbrka, Galicia (now Ukraine), NYC; BELY - Rzeszów,
Poland
SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY - Belchatów & Lodz, Poland, NYC;
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland, NYC


Re: Guide to Jewish Genealogy in Latvia and Estonia #latvia

Alan D Glick <aglick1@...>
 

It does look like the book is sold out. I appear to have gotten one
of the last copies.

Alan Glick
Valrico, FL

Searching:
ALEFRAIND, ALSTEIN - Poland.
GLICK,GLUCH,GLUCK - Daugavpils.
KOSOFSKY - Wyszogrod.
POLOTNICK - Novaya Ushitsa.
ROSEN, SLAVINSKI, SLOWENCINSKI - Daugavpils.
WOHMAN - Poland

----- Original Message -----
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To: "Latvia SIG" <latvia@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 3:54 AM
Subject: [latvia] Guide to Jewish Genealogy in Latvia and Estonia


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I have tried to order this book several times without success.
Each time I am told "Sorry there is no listing yet."
Is this the Mall's way of telling me that the book is out of stock?

Joan Moskowitz Goldstein
Jerusalem, Israel (formerly New York City)
Email replies to joan@rgoldstein.com
Researching descendants of :
GUTMAN, BASCH of Siemiatycze of Bialystok Gubernia (now Poland).
MORSCHOVITZ, RABINOWITZ of Glazmanka (Gostini) Vitebsk Gubernia (now
Latvia).




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Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Guide to Jewish Genealogy in Latvia and Estonia #latvia

Alan D Glick <aglick1@...>
 

It does look like the book is sold out. I appear to have gotten one
of the last copies.

Alan Glick
Valrico, FL

Searching:
ALEFRAIND, ALSTEIN - Poland.
GLICK,GLUCH,GLUCK - Daugavpils.
KOSOFSKY - Wyszogrod.
POLOTNICK - Novaya Ushitsa.
ROSEN, SLAVINSKI, SLOWENCINSKI - Daugavpils.
WOHMAN - Poland

----- Original Message -----
From: "robert goldstein" <robertg@netvision.net.il>
To: "Latvia SIG" <latvia@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 3:54 AM
Subject: [latvia] Guide to Jewish Genealogy in Latvia and Estonia


**********************************************************
Support the work of this group with a contribution to the
JewishGen General Fund
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/
**********************************************************
I have tried to order this book several times without success.
Each time I am told "Sorry there is no listing yet."
Is this the Mall's way of telling me that the book is out of stock?

Joan Moskowitz Goldstein
Jerusalem, Israel (formerly New York City)
Email replies to joan@rgoldstein.com
Researching descendants of :
GUTMAN, BASCH of Siemiatycze of Bialystok Gubernia (now Poland).
MORSCHOVITZ, RABINOWITZ of Glazmanka (Gostini) Vitebsk Gubernia (now
Latvia).




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Village Dubniki or Dubinki #latvia

Adam Katzeff <adam.katzeff@...>
 

Dear all,

When doing research in the State Historical Archive in Riga recently I found
a death record for one of my relatives who passed away in 1898. The death
was recorded in the book of Riga community, but the deceased person lived in
Cesis (Wenden) (all births and deaths taking place in Cesis were recorded in
Riga). The death record tells my relative was buried in Cesis but died in
another place. Now I'm trying to find out the name of his place of death and
where it is situated. The script was a bit hard to read but I think the name
of the place was either Dubniki or Dubinki. I guess it was a small village
as I haven't managed to find a place with a name like that on either modern
maps of Latvia or old maps of the Lifland guberniya where Cesis was situated
before WW1.

Hopefully someone of you can help me identify this small village!

Best regards,

Adam Katzeff,
Malmoe, Sweden

adam.katzeff@spray.se

Researching:
GOLDBERG: Papile, Lithuania; Cesis, Latvia; Tallinn, Estonia; Glasgow,
Scotland; Sweden; Denmark; PA+WI, USA.
KATSEV/KATZEFF/KATZOFF/KACEV: Papile, Lithuania; Cesis+Riga, Latvia;
Pärnu+Tallinn, Estonia; Glasgow, Scotland; Sweden; Denmark; MA+GA+NY+CA,
USA.
NEMCHENOK/NEMCHENKO: Yanovichi+Surazh+Velizh+Vitebsk, Belarus; St.
Petersburg, Russia; Paris, France; Sweden; Denmark; NY, USA.


Latvia SIG #Latvia Village Dubniki or Dubinki #latvia

Adam Katzeff <adam.katzeff@...>
 

Dear all,

When doing research in the State Historical Archive in Riga recently I found
a death record for one of my relatives who passed away in 1898. The death
was recorded in the book of Riga community, but the deceased person lived in
Cesis (Wenden) (all births and deaths taking place in Cesis were recorded in
Riga). The death record tells my relative was buried in Cesis but died in
another place. Now I'm trying to find out the name of his place of death and
where it is situated. The script was a bit hard to read but I think the name
of the place was either Dubniki or Dubinki. I guess it was a small village
as I haven't managed to find a place with a name like that on either modern
maps of Latvia or old maps of the Lifland guberniya where Cesis was situated
before WW1.

Hopefully someone of you can help me identify this small village!

Best regards,

Adam Katzeff,
Malmoe, Sweden

adam.katzeff@spray.se

Researching:
GOLDBERG: Papile, Lithuania; Cesis, Latvia; Tallinn, Estonia; Glasgow,
Scotland; Sweden; Denmark; PA+WI, USA.
KATSEV/KATZEFF/KATZOFF/KACEV: Papile, Lithuania; Cesis+Riga, Latvia;
Pärnu+Tallinn, Estonia; Glasgow, Scotland; Sweden; Denmark; MA+GA+NY+CA,
USA.
NEMCHENOK/NEMCHENKO: Yanovichi+Surazh+Velizh+Vitebsk, Belarus; St.
Petersburg, Russia; Paris, France; Sweden; Denmark; NY, USA.


update on searching with Steve Morse website #general

Sharon R. Korn <s.r.korn@...>
 

Recently, I wrote that it was not possible to search www.stevemorse.org for
"unknown" in the NYC Death Index. Such a search is definitely possible.
Also, the NYC Grooms and Brides Indexes have just been modified to allow
searching on the first name only. All of these databases are on
www.italiangen.org, which is much easier to search with Steve Morse's "one
step tools."


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen update on searching with Steve Morse website #general

Sharon R. Korn <s.r.korn@...>
 

Recently, I wrote that it was not possible to search www.stevemorse.org for
"unknown" in the NYC Death Index. Such a search is definitely possible.
Also, the NYC Grooms and Brides Indexes have just been modified to allow
searching on the first name only. All of these databases are on
www.italiangen.org, which is much easier to search with Steve Morse's "one
step tools."


Jacob LIPOFF from Grodno #lithuania

Shelly Crane
 

Hello.

I am trying to find anyone who may be related to Jacob LIPOFF >from Grodno. I
found his 1917 World War I draft registration card on a commercial web site.
He was 23 years old at the time and living in NY. I do not know what his
surname would have been in Grodno, but could have been LIPOWICZ or something
phonetically similar. I believe Jacob was married to Esther and they had at
least one child named, Lloyd.

If you are related to Jacob LIPOFF, please email me privately. My
grandfather was Abram LIPOFF (LIPOWICZ) son of Yossel.

Thank you,
Shelly Crane
USA, crzprncess@aol.com

Names I am researching
Anywhere in Lomza-Suwalki, Poland: DANOWSKI , FAJNTUCH FRAJND, FROMSEN,
GABELMAN, GELER, GOREN, LANGUS, LIPOVICH/LIPOWICZ/LIPOFF, MILEWICZ,
PRESSMAN, WINICKA.
Gabin, Poland: BOL Miedzyrzec Podlaski, Poland: BAUMEL (Benel)
BRENZYLBERG CZERN, DYMET, EDELBAUM, FLASZTERSZTEIN ,GANC, NYSENKIER ROIZENFELD,
SZCERN, WAJSMAN


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Jacob LIPOFF from Grodno #lithuania

Shelly Crane
 

Hello.

I am trying to find anyone who may be related to Jacob LIPOFF >from Grodno. I
found his 1917 World War I draft registration card on a commercial web site.
He was 23 years old at the time and living in NY. I do not know what his
surname would have been in Grodno, but could have been LIPOWICZ or something
phonetically similar. I believe Jacob was married to Esther and they had at
least one child named, Lloyd.

If you are related to Jacob LIPOFF, please email me privately. My
grandfather was Abram LIPOFF (LIPOWICZ) son of Yossel.

Thank you,
Shelly Crane
USA, crzprncess@aol.com

Names I am researching
Anywhere in Lomza-Suwalki, Poland: DANOWSKI , FAJNTUCH FRAJND, FROMSEN,
GABELMAN, GELER, GOREN, LANGUS, LIPOVICH/LIPOWICZ/LIPOFF, MILEWICZ,
PRESSMAN, WINICKA.
Gabin, Poland: BOL Miedzyrzec Podlaski, Poland: BAUMEL (Benel)
BRENZYLBERG CZERN, DYMET, EDELBAUM, FLASZTERSZTEIN ,GANC, NYSENKIER ROIZENFELD,
SZCERN, WAJSMAN


Jacob LIPOFF from Grodno #poland

Shelly Crane
 

Hello,

I am trying to find anyone who may be related to Jacob LIPOFF >from Grodno. I
found his 1917 World War I draft registration card on a commercial web site.
He was 23 years old at the time and living in NY. I do not know what his
surname would have been in Grodno, but could have been LIPOWICZ or something
phonetically similar. I believe Jacob was married to Esther and they had at
least one child named, Lloyd.

If you are related to Jacob LIPOFF, please email me privately. My
grandfather was Abram LIPOFF (LIPOWICZ) son of Yossel. Abram was born in Grajewo
Poland, but am trying to find out where his father Yossel came from. It could
have been Grodno.

Thank you,
Shelly Crane
USA, crzprncess@aol.com

Names I am researching
Anywhere in Lomza-Suwalki, Poland: DANOWSKI , FAJNTUCH FRAJND, FROMSEN,
GABELMAN, GELER, GOREN, LANGUS, LIPOVICH/LIPOWICZ/LIPOFF, MILEWICZ,
PRESSMAN, WINICKA.
Gabin, Poland: BOL Miedzyrzec Podlaski, Poland: BAUMEL (Benel)
BRENZYLBERG CZERN, DYMET, EDELBAUM, FLASZTERSZTEIN ,GANC, NYSENKIER ROIZENFELD,
SZCERN, WAJSMAN


JRI Poland #Poland Jacob LIPOFF from Grodno #poland

Shelly Crane
 

Hello,

I am trying to find anyone who may be related to Jacob LIPOFF >from Grodno. I
found his 1917 World War I draft registration card on a commercial web site.
He was 23 years old at the time and living in NY. I do not know what his
surname would have been in Grodno, but could have been LIPOWICZ or something
phonetically similar. I believe Jacob was married to Esther and they had at
least one child named, Lloyd.

If you are related to Jacob LIPOFF, please email me privately. My
grandfather was Abram LIPOFF (LIPOWICZ) son of Yossel. Abram was born in Grajewo
Poland, but am trying to find out where his father Yossel came from. It could
have been Grodno.

Thank you,
Shelly Crane
USA, crzprncess@aol.com

Names I am researching
Anywhere in Lomza-Suwalki, Poland: DANOWSKI , FAJNTUCH FRAJND, FROMSEN,
GABELMAN, GELER, GOREN, LANGUS, LIPOVICH/LIPOWICZ/LIPOFF, MILEWICZ,
PRESSMAN, WINICKA.
Gabin, Poland: BOL Miedzyrzec Podlaski, Poland: BAUMEL (Benel)
BRENZYLBERG CZERN, DYMET, EDELBAUM, FLASZTERSZTEIN ,GANC, NYSENKIER ROIZENFELD,
SZCERN, WAJSMAN


Canadian Source for Biographical Data #ukraine

J. Spring <jspring@...>
 

Hello:
In 1940 the Canadian government required everyone age 16 years and older to
complete a National Registration form providing background to assess skills
to be used in the war effort. These forms are now available for people who
have been deceased for 20 years or more. I found them useful in determining
the shtetl of my great-grandparents (and their parents) as well as their
education, employment history, health, and knowledge of languages. There is
a fee (I believe it is $35 Cdn.) The address is:
Statistics Canada
Census Pension Searches Unit
Census Operations Division
B1E-34 Jean Talon Building
Tunney's Pasture
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A 0T6

J Spring, Ontario, Canada
Searching FLAGMAN, WERBE, SPRING, SCHNEE


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Canadian Source for Biographical Data #ukraine

J. Spring <jspring@...>
 

Hello:
In 1940 the Canadian government required everyone age 16 years and older to
complete a National Registration form providing background to assess skills
to be used in the war effort. These forms are now available for people who
have been deceased for 20 years or more. I found them useful in determining
the shtetl of my great-grandparents (and their parents) as well as their
education, employment history, health, and knowledge of languages. There is
a fee (I believe it is $35 Cdn.) The address is:
Statistics Canada
Census Pension Searches Unit
Census Operations Division
B1E-34 Jean Talon Building
Tunney's Pasture
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A 0T6

J Spring, Ontario, Canada
Searching FLAGMAN, WERBE, SPRING, SCHNEE


Viewmate-Russian-Just Shtetl Name #belarus

Lancy
 

I have posted one page of a Russian passport, and I need only the name of
the shtetl of origin.

If you can help me, please go to

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7089


Thank you in advance for your help.

Lancy Spalter
Kfar Tavor, Israel


Belarus SIG #Belarus Viewmate-Russian-Just Shtetl Name #belarus

Lancy
 

I have posted one page of a Russian passport, and I need only the name of
the shtetl of origin.

If you can help me, please go to

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7089


Thank you in advance for your help.

Lancy Spalter
Kfar Tavor, Israel