Dear Jewish Genners,

On a recent trip to Vienna, I found my grandfather's siblings
after several years of searching. Unfortunately, I also discovered
that all of my grandfather's siblings who lived in Vienna until 1938
perished in the Holocaust along with most of their families. But, I
recently discovered that at least one of his brother's children
survived WWII and came to the US in 1951. I have obtained the
Arrival Record >from HIAS. The names of the family members were
Hermann Fraenkel (a umlaut indicated by ae) , his wife Franziska, and
their son Ulrich Wilhelm. The parents anglicized their names to
Herman and Frances Frankel. I don't know how Ulrich anglicized his
name, but I assume he did.

>from the Social Security Death Index, I have learned that
Herman died in 1972 with his last address in Queens, NY and Franziska
died in 1982 with her last address in Long Beach, NY. Because they
died less than 50 years ago and I am not a direct descendant, it is
my understanding that I cannot get the death certificates for the
parents either >from the State of New York or >from the City of New
York. This might give me a clue to their sons new name or his
address.

Nevertheless, I have written to the Clerk's office in Long
Beach to see if I could get any information about the son >from the
death certificate of his mother. Although Frances Frankel's last
address was in Long Beach, the clerk has written me that she did not
die there so they don't have the death record.

I know that all three persons became US citizens (I have the
dates and certificate numbers) but I cannot get their petitions
because I cannot prove they are deceased since I cannot get death
certificates.

I have tried various means of searching for Ulrich Frankel on
the Internet without success, perhaps because that is no longer his
name.

Is there any one out there who might have known these people
or who knows Ulrich? Any thoughts on how I might locate him would be
appreciated. Please respond to me privately at tfweiss@mit.edu.

Thank you very much,
--
Thomas Fischer Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@mit.edu

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER (Skalat); ENGEL (Vienna);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague); FRAENKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov,
Vienna); KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna,
Vienna); OLLOP (Vienna); ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor);
QUADRATSTEIN (Vienna, Saarbrucken); VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice,
Benesov, Tabor)

Dear Jewish Genners,

On a recent trip to Vienna, I found my grandfather's siblings
after several years of searching. Unfortunately, I also discovered
that all of my grandfather's siblings who lived in Vienna until 1938
perished in the Holocaust along with most of their families. But, I
recently discovered that at least one of his brother's children
survived WWII and came to the US in 1951. I have obtained the
Arrival Record >from HIAS. The names of the family members were
Hermann Fraenkel (a umlaut indicated by ae) , his wife Franziska, and
their son Ulrich Wilhelm. The parents anglicized their names to
Herman and Frances Frankel. I don't know how Ulrich anglicized his
name, but I assume he did.

>from the Social Security Death Index, I have learned that
Herman died in 1972 with his last address in Queens, NY and Franziska
died in 1982 with her last address in Long Beach, NY. Because they
died less than 50 years ago and I am not a direct descendant, it is
my understanding that I cannot get the death certificates for the
parents either >from the State of New York or >from the City of New
York. This might give me a clue to their sons new name or his
address.

Nevertheless, I have written to the Clerk's office in Long
Beach to see if I could get any information about the son >from the
death certificate of his mother. Although Frances Frankel's last
address was in Long Beach, the clerk has written me that she did not
die there so they don't have the death record.

I know that all three persons became US citizens (I have the
dates and certificate numbers) but I cannot get their petitions
because I cannot prove they are deceased since I cannot get death
certificates.

I have tried various means of searching for Ulrich Frankel on
the Internet without success, perhaps because that is no longer his
name.

Is there any one out there who might have known these people
or who knows Ulrich? Any thoughts on how I might locate him would be
appreciated. Please respond to me privately at tfweiss@mit.edu.

Thank you very much,
--
Thomas Fischer Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@mit.edu

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER (Skalat); ENGEL (Vienna);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague); FRAENKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov,
Vienna); KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna,
Vienna); OLLOP (Vienna); ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor);
QUADRATSTEIN (Vienna, Saarbrucken); VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice,
Benesov, Tabor)

Hi,

I'm searching for a niece of my great-grandmother (Eleanore NEUMANN nee
POLLAK) who I just discovered in the 1920 U.S. Census living on 9th Ave. in
NYC. The family is Otto NEWMAN (originally NEUMANN, a storekeeper, born
5/19/1882 near Kolodeje/Blatna, Czech Republic, arrived in U.S. in 1900),
his wife Carrie (born ~1884 in New York), sons William (born in NYC ~1917)
and "S" (born in NYC ~1915), and daughter "J" (born in NYC In 1919). I
cannot find them in the 1910 or 1930 U.S. Census. I also suspect they may
have converted to Christianity. Any information on this family would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Joe Lonstein
East Lansing, MI

Hi,

I'm searching for a niece of my great-grandmother (Eleanore NEUMANN nee
POLLAK) who I just discovered in the 1920 U.S. Census living on 9th Ave. in
NYC. The family is Otto NEWMAN (originally NEUMANN, a storekeeper, born
5/19/1882 near Kolodeje/Blatna, Czech Republic, arrived in U.S. in 1900),
his wife Carrie (born ~1884 in New York), sons William (born in NYC ~1917)
and "S" (born in NYC ~1915), and daughter "J" (born in NYC In 1919). I
cannot find them in the 1910 or 1930 U.S. Census. I also suspect they may
have converted to Christianity. Any information on this family would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Joe Lonstein
East Lansing, MI

Hi,

I'm searching for a niece of my great-grandmother (Eleanore NEUMANN nee
POLLAK) who I just discovered in the 1930 U.S. Census living on E. 81st. St.
in NYC. The family is Samuel LEFKOWITZ (a tailor, born 5/24/1880 in
Austria-Hungary), wife Bertha (nee NEUMANN/NEWMAN; born 1877 in Kolodeje,
Czech Republic), daughters Mary (born NYC 1909) and Mathilda (born NYC
1912). Mary and Mathilda are listed as "typists". I cannot find them in
the 1910 or 1920 Censes. Any information about them will be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,

Joe Lonstein
East Lansing, MI

Hi,

I'm searching for a niece of my great-grandmother (Eleanore NEUMANN nee
POLLAK) who I just discovered in the 1930 U.S. Census living on E. 81st. St.
in NYC. The family is Samuel LEFKOWITZ (a tailor, born 5/24/1880 in
Austria-Hungary), wife Bertha (nee NEUMANN/NEWMAN; born 1877 in Kolodeje,
Czech Republic), daughters Mary (born NYC 1909) and Mathilda (born NYC
1912). Mary and Mathilda are listed as "typists". I cannot find them in
the 1910 or 1920 Censes. Any information about them will be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,

Joe Lonstein
East Lansing, MI

Hi,

I'm searching for a niece of my great-grandmother (Eleanore NEUMANN nee
POLLAK) who I just discovered in the 1910 and 1920 U.S. Census living on
10th Ave. in NYC. They are Sigmund WEISKOPF (or WEISSKOPF; born in Karlsbad
in 1879; listed as a dry goods storekeeper), his wife Anna nee NEUMANN (or
NEWMAN; born in Kolodeje, Czech Republic in 1880), and sons Charles (born in
NYC ~1903) and Leo (born in NYC ~1908). I cannot find them in the 1930 U.S.
Census. Any information on this family would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Joe Lonstein
East Lansing, MI

Hi,

I'm searching for a niece of my great-grandmother (Eleanore NEUMANN nee
POLLAK) who I just discovered in the 1910 and 1920 U.S. Census living on
10th Ave. in NYC. They are Sigmund WEISKOPF (or WEISSKOPF; born in Karlsbad
in 1879; listed as a dry goods storekeeper), his wife Anna nee NEUMANN (or
NEWMAN; born in Kolodeje, Czech Republic in 1880), and sons Charles (born in
NYC ~1903) and Leo (born in NYC ~1908). I cannot find them in the 1930 U.S.
Census. Any information on this family would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Joe Lonstein
East Lansing, MI

bsd
Dear Lodz Group

Today I received the latest emailed messaged >from the Lodz Foundation with
information about their work on the Jewish Cemetery. Whilst I applaud their
work and this is very important, especially the database of those buried
there, the only mention made about the older Wesola Street Jewish Burial
Ground was that the Municipality agreed to put up a plaque on the site
commemorating those who are buried there.
For those who do not know, the Wesola Street Jewish Burial Ground is the
oldest dating >from 1811. In the 1950's this site was used to construct
residential homes and a road. Therefore, the whole site is completely
desecrated. This does not mean that there are no graves remaining there.
On the contrary, there are graves underneath the buildings and underneath
the road.
Having received no response >from this Foundation to my plea for reclamation
of the Wesola Street Jewish cemetary, I have now appealed to the Committee
for the Preservation of Jewish Cemeteries in Europe for their intervention
to reclaim this site for protection. So I am attaching below the email
which I sent to the CPJCE with copy to Chief Rabbi Schudrich of Poland and
Ada Holzman for the Lodz Landsmanschaft in Israel, for your information:
bsd
Kvod HaRabbanim shlita
Re: Lodz: Wesola Street Beis HaChaim, established 1811; today used for
residences etc.

Please could I appeal to Kvod HaRabbanim for your kind help in reclaiming
the above named Beis HaChaim which existed as a Beis HaChaim until the
1950's when it was used for residential construction and the site of a road.

There is a great deal of excellent work going on at present to reconstruct
the newer Beis Hachaim in Lodz and to create a database of those known to be
buried there. This is being done with great fanfare and elaborate web site
complete with pictures of the ongoing work. We applaud those involved in
this blessed work.
However the fate of the Wesola Street Beis HaChaim has been "swept under
the carpet" and no doubt the authorities in Lodz hope that the question of
the desecration of the Wesola Street Beis HaChaim would never resurface.

I am also deeply concerned because my beloved ancestors (who owned a Textile
factory in Lodz) are no doubt buried in Wesola Street and my family and I
are deeply pained by this atrocity.

I hereby appeal to you >from the depths of my heart to investigate this
matter and take steps to begin the procedure of reclamation of the Wesola
Street Beis HaChaim. If I can be of any assistance please be so kind and
let me know.

With best wishes
Ksiva VeChasima Tova

from Sheila Grossnass London

Among others the cemetery in the Wesola Street ceased to exist only in the
50s. A street was built on part of the cemetery, on Jewish graves apartment
houses rose. Today only old maps of the city and dilapidated fragments of
the 19th century cemetery wall are witness to the original character of this
place.

Will you join me in fighting for the reclamation of the Wesola Street
Cemetery in Lodz?

from Sheila Grossnass, London UK

Researching: PINCZEWSKI (Textile Factory of Lodz)
NAUMBERG (Rabbinical Family) KRANZ etc.

[MODERATOR NOTE: "Stary Cmentarz Zydowski w Lodzi" (1934) contains a Hebrew list
of gravestones and photographs of the Wesola Street Cemetery, commonly known as
the Old Jewish Cemetery in Lodz. In addition, this invaluable resource contains
biographies of prominent Jews buried there, a history of the Lodz burial society,
and detailed descriptive and statistical information about the cemetery (in Polish)
For further information, please visit the following pages on the Lodz ShtetLinks
web site: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/lodz/oldcem.htm and
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/lodz/tour10.htm ]

bsd
Dear Lodz Group

Today I received the latest emailed messaged >from the Lodz Foundation with
information about their work on the Jewish Cemetery. Whilst I applaud their
work and this is very important, especially the database of those buried
there, the only mention made about the older Wesola Street Jewish Burial
Ground was that the Municipality agreed to put up a plaque on the site
commemorating those who are buried there.
For those who do not know, the Wesola Street Jewish Burial Ground is the
oldest dating >from 1811. In the 1950's this site was used to construct
residential homes and a road. Therefore, the whole site is completely
desecrated. This does not mean that there are no graves remaining there.
On the contrary, there are graves underneath the buildings and underneath
the road.
Having received no response >from this Foundation to my plea for reclamation
of the Wesola Street Jewish cemetary, I have now appealed to the Committee
for the Preservation of Jewish Cemeteries in Europe for their intervention
to reclaim this site for protection. So I am attaching below the email
which I sent to the CPJCE with copy to Chief Rabbi Schudrich of Poland and
Ada Holzman for the Lodz Landsmanschaft in Israel, for your information:
bsd
Kvod HaRabbanim shlita
Re: Lodz: Wesola Street Beis HaChaim, established 1811; today used for
residences etc.

Please could I appeal to Kvod HaRabbanim for your kind help in reclaiming
the above named Beis HaChaim which existed as a Beis HaChaim until the
1950's when it was used for residential construction and the site of a road.

There is a great deal of excellent work going on at present to reconstruct
the newer Beis Hachaim in Lodz and to create a database of those known to be
buried there. This is being done with great fanfare and elaborate web site
complete with pictures of the ongoing work. We applaud those involved in
this blessed work.
However the fate of the Wesola Street Beis HaChaim has been "swept under
the carpet" and no doubt the authorities in Lodz hope that the question of
the desecration of the Wesola Street Beis HaChaim would never resurface.

I am also deeply concerned because my beloved ancestors (who owned a Textile
factory in Lodz) are no doubt buried in Wesola Street and my family and I
are deeply pained by this atrocity.

I hereby appeal to you >from the depths of my heart to investigate this
matter and take steps to begin the procedure of reclamation of the Wesola
Street Beis HaChaim. If I can be of any assistance please be so kind and
let me know.

With best wishes
Ksiva VeChasima Tova

from Sheila Grossnass London

Among others the cemetery in the Wesola Street ceased to exist only in the
50s. A street was built on part of the cemetery, on Jewish graves apartment
houses rose. Today only old maps of the city and dilapidated fragments of
the 19th century cemetery wall are witness to the original character of this
place.

Will you join me in fighting for the reclamation of the Wesola Street
Cemetery in Lodz?

from Sheila Grossnass, London UK

Researching: PINCZEWSKI (Textile Factory of Lodz)
NAUMBERG (Rabbinical Family) KRANZ etc.

[MODERATOR NOTE: "Stary Cmentarz Zydowski w Lodzi" (1934) contains a Hebrew list
of gravestones and photographs of the Wesola Street Cemetery, commonly known as
the Old Jewish Cemetery in Lodz. In addition, this invaluable resource contains
biographies of prominent Jews buried there, a history of the Lodz burial society,
and detailed descriptive and statistical information about the cemetery (in Polish)
For further information, please visit the following pages on the Lodz ShtetLinks
web site: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/lodz/oldcem.htm and
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/lodz/tour10.htm ]

I have been told that at the recent ex-Lodzers meeting at the Eretz Israel
Museum in Tel Aviv, there was shown a Lodz Windows photos exhibition. One of
the photos pictured the house on Yakuba street (Rembrendtstrasse) number 10.
This was the last address of my grandmother Ewa Dag Hornung, who had been
deported >from Prague to the ghetto. Could anybody please inform me where I
could see that photo?
Thanks,
Uriel Meretz, Ramat-Hasharon, Israel

I have been told that at the recent ex-Lodzers meeting at the Eretz Israel
Museum in Tel Aviv, there was shown a Lodz Windows photos exhibition. One of
the photos pictured the house on Yakuba street (Rembrendtstrasse) number 10.
This was the last address of my grandmother Ewa Dag Hornung, who had been
deported >from Prague to the ghetto. Could anybody please inform me where I
could see that photo?
Thanks,
Uriel Meretz, Ramat-Hasharon, Israel

If anyone has experience doing genealogical research in Hartford, Connecticut, I'd
like to hear >from you.

I'm curious to know the process of acquiring birth, death and marriage
certificates directly >from the Hartford City Clerk if one visits the City Clerk in
person, as well as any resources or books specific to the Jewish community of
Hartford during the early 1900s, the old Jewish cemeteries, and anyone whose
family was involved in bootlegging industry there circa early 1920s.

Is there a book about the history of the Jews of Hartford? Has anyone done
extensive work with local newspaper research and/or getting old business records?

The families I'm researching are of Russian (Lithuanian/Belarus) descent with
these surnames:

BRONSKY, BRONSON, KLEIN, LAPIDUS, and PEARLMAN (also >from Boston, MA and Portland,
ME)

Please contact me privately with any suggestions, hints or tips, about Hartford
research in general, or about these family names in specific.

Many thanks!

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com

If anyone has experience doing genealogical research in Hartford, Connecticut, I'd
like to hear >from you.

I'm curious to know the process of acquiring birth, death and marriage
certificates directly >from the Hartford City Clerk if one visits the City Clerk in
person, as well as any resources or books specific to the Jewish community of
Hartford during the early 1900s, the old Jewish cemeteries, and anyone whose
family was involved in bootlegging industry there circa early 1920s.

Is there a book about the history of the Jews of Hartford? Has anyone done
extensive work with local newspaper research and/or getting old business records?

The families I'm researching are of Russian (Lithuanian/Belarus) descent with
these surnames:

BRONSKY, BRONSON, KLEIN, LAPIDUS, and PEARLMAN (also >from Boston, MA and Portland,
ME)

Please contact me privately with any suggestions, hints or tips, about Hartford
research in general, or about these family names in specific.

Many thanks!

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com

I am seeking to find the submitters or families of the submitters. As these
submissions were made in the 1950's, I presume they are either quite elderly or
passed on. The information is >from the Yad Vashem internet database. For whatever
reason I was unable to view the actual Pages of Testimony.

First is Yehudit DANZIGER. There are 13 "KALKOPF" returns, ten of which she
submitted in 1955 (the other three are KAHLKOPF of Krakow). But >from the
information provided, she appears to be a cousin of my KALKOPF family. She is the
granddaughter of Lea (?, F: Yisrael) KALKOPF, 1868-1942; daughter of Eli/Ale
KALKOPF, 1891- ?, and Chawa/Khava (VEIS?), 1894-1941. Her father appears to be the
grandson of my great great grandparents, Abraham Avrom and Esther (?) KALKOPF.

Second is Rivka/Rosa MARGOLIS. She made a number of submissions in 1956 including
the PINKUS family. (The mother of Eli above was Laja PINKUS, sister of Berek
PINKUS). Rosa is the d/o Berek PINKUS, 1877-1943 and Amalia (GOLDFELD) PINKUS,
1879-1943. She was sister-in-law to Minja (HEINBERG) PINKUS, 1909-1943; sister to
Jadzia SHMULEVITZ, 1914-? and Fradek SHMULEVITZ, 1906-?; sister to Sala (PINKUS)
[Herman]BORZYKOWSKI, 1919-1943; and sister-in-law to Jeszaja/Yeshiyah BERGER,
1901-1943. I included these other surnames in the event they are familar to
anyone.

This is just a 'shot in the dark'. I have made an email inquiry to the Israel
Genealogical Society (Searching for Sumbitters of Pages of Testimony to Yad Vashem

from Israel) and am awaiting a reply. No doubt with the Yad Vashem online

database, they are being overwhelmed with requests. Being the typical American
(b. 1957), English is not my best language, it is my only language.

Thanks and Best Wishes to All,
(Please reply privately as I will shortly be unsubscribed)

Michael McTeer
29 Palms, CA USA
michael_mcteer@yahoo.com
mcteer@gmail.com

I am seeking to find the submitters or families of the submitters. As these
submissions were made in the 1950's, I presume they are either quite elderly or
passed on. The information is >from the Yad Vashem internet database. For whatever
reason I was unable to view the actual Pages of Testimony.

First is Yehudit DANZIGER. There are 13 "KALKOPF" returns, ten of which she
submitted in 1955 (the other three are KAHLKOPF of Krakow). But >from the
information provided, she appears to be a cousin of my KALKOPF family. She is the
granddaughter of Lea (?, F: Yisrael) KALKOPF, 1868-1942; daughter of Eli/Ale
KALKOPF, 1891- ?, and Chawa/Khava (VEIS?), 1894-1941. Her father appears to be the
grandson of my great great grandparents, Abraham Avrom and Esther (?) KALKOPF.

Second is Rivka/Rosa MARGOLIS. She made a number of submissions in 1956 including
the PINKUS family. (The mother of Eli above was Laja PINKUS, sister of Berek
PINKUS). Rosa is the d/o Berek PINKUS, 1877-1943 and Amalia (GOLDFELD) PINKUS,
1879-1943. She was sister-in-law to Minja (HEINBERG) PINKUS, 1909-1943; sister to
Jadzia SHMULEVITZ, 1914-? and Fradek SHMULEVITZ, 1906-?; sister to Sala (PINKUS)
[Herman]BORZYKOWSKI, 1919-1943; and sister-in-law to Jeszaja/Yeshiyah BERGER,
1901-1943. I included these other surnames in the event they are familar to
anyone.

This is just a 'shot in the dark'. I have made an email inquiry to the Israel
Genealogical Society (Searching for Sumbitters of Pages of Testimony to Yad Vashem

from Israel) and am awaiting a reply. No doubt with the Yad Vashem online

database, they are being overwhelmed with requests. Being the typical American
(b. 1957), English is not my best language, it is my only language.

Thanks and Best Wishes to All,
(Please reply privately as I will shortly be unsubscribed)

Michael McTeer
29 Palms, CA USA
michael_mcteer@yahoo.com
mcteer@gmail.com

After being 'offine' a while, I was hoping to get back to the search. But another
family issue will preclude this.

Before leaving again, here is an update/conclusion to one search. In early 2003, I
initiated a Red Cross trace for the children of my great grandmother, Liba
(LENCZNER) LIEBERMAN KALKOPF FREYMORGEN, who remained in Poland and are presumed
to have died in the camps and her sister Golda (LENCZNER) GRYNBAUM. The LENCZNERs
are of Szczekociny and the KALOPFs of the Zark/Sosnowiec/Bedzin area. During the
past two years, I have received interim replies >from the Red Cross, all negative.
This month, I received a response with some concrete information. If I may quote

from their letter, dated 10 Aug 2005, received 4 Sep 2005:

">from the Civil Registry Office in Sosnowice a death certificate reveals the
following:
Golda Grynbaum nee Lenczner, born on October 10, 1884, in Szczekociny, was
married to Izrael David Grynbaum and last resided in Sosnowiec, daughter of Litman
Lencner and Gitla, died on August 15, 1943 in Sosnowiec.
Unfortunately there was no information available regarding the Kalkopf/Kalkbop
family."

The d/c was not included nor further details of Golda's passing so I do not know
the circumstances. She would have been 58 at the time. Liba her older sister, b.
1878, had passed away in 1941 in Los Angeles, CA USA >from heart failure. >from
information at this web site, I gather August 1943 involved the last "deportation"
of Jews >from Sosnowiec. As posted previously, after the war Liba and Golda's
brother David LENTZNER who had immigrated to the US went to Europe in search of
relatives. He found and returned with Golda's son, "Louis" (b. 1923) thought to be
the only family survivor. He died as Louis GREER in Los Angeles County in 1967.

I am wondering if a Page of Testimony should be submitted for Golda. I do not know
if she died of 'natural causes' or due to the Nazis especially since reference was
made to a Polish civil document.

Best Wishes to all and hope I can rejoin before too long.

Michael McTeer
29 Palms, CA USA
michael_mcteer@yahoo.com
mcteer@gmail.com

After being 'offine' a while, I was hoping to get back to the search. But another
family issue will preclude this.

Before leaving again, here is an update/conclusion to one search. In early 2003, I
initiated a Red Cross trace for the children of my great grandmother, Liba
(LENCZNER) LIEBERMAN KALKOPF FREYMORGEN, who remained in Poland and are presumed
to have died in the camps and her sister Golda (LENCZNER) GRYNBAUM. The LENCZNERs
are of Szczekociny and the KALOPFs of the Zark/Sosnowiec/Bedzin area. During the
past two years, I have received interim replies >from the Red Cross, all negative.
This month, I received a response with some concrete information. If I may quote

from their letter, dated 10 Aug 2005, received 4 Sep 2005:

">from the Civil Registry Office in Sosnowice a death certificate reveals the
following:
Golda Grynbaum nee Lenczner, born on October 10, 1884, in Szczekociny, was
married to Izrael David Grynbaum and last resided in Sosnowiec, daughter of Litman
Lencner and Gitla, died on August 15, 1943 in Sosnowiec.
Unfortunately there was no information available regarding the Kalkopf/Kalkbop
family."

The d/c was not included nor further details of Golda's passing so I do not know
the circumstances. She would have been 58 at the time. Liba her older sister, b.
1878, had passed away in 1941 in Los Angeles, CA USA >from heart failure. >from
information at this web site, I gather August 1943 involved the last "deportation"
of Jews >from Sosnowiec. As posted previously, after the war Liba and Golda's
brother David LENTZNER who had immigrated to the US went to Europe in search of
relatives. He found and returned with Golda's son, "Louis" (b. 1923) thought to be
the only family survivor. He died as Louis GREER in Los Angeles County in 1967.

I am wondering if a Page of Testimony should be submitted for Golda. I do not know
if she died of 'natural causes' or due to the Nazis especially since reference was
made to a Polish civil document.

Best Wishes to all and hope I can rejoin before too long.

Michael McTeer
29 Palms, CA USA
michael_mcteer@yahoo.com
mcteer@gmail.com

About two months ago, I sent a request for a death certificate to the Ontario
province vital records office. The request was sent on August 1. The address to
which I sent the request, as indicated on their standard form, was:

Office of the Registrar General
P. O. Box 4600
189 Red River Road
Thunder Bay, ON P7B 6L8

To date I have not had any response >from them, nor has my credit card been charged
with the fee.

My question is whether this length of time without any response is unusual. I
seem to remember hearing >from them much sooner in the past.

I've tried to phone the Office to find out the status of my request with no
success. The phone numbers they provide are:

In 416 area code: 325-8305
Rest of Ontario: 1-800-461-2156
Outside of Ontario: 1-416-325-8305

Since the 800 number does not work >from the USA, I have been trying to call the
416 area code number. The line seems to be busy all the time, so this does not
seem to be a correct number.

I sent an e-mail message to cbsinfo@cbs.gov.on.ca, and received a brief message
indicating that my message had been forward to the Office of the Registrar
General. However, I did not hear >from them again after this message.

I'd appreciate any feedback >from others who have had experience with requests for
vital records >from this office, as well as any suggestions as to how I can find
out the status of my request. Does anyone know of an alternate phone number to
use?

Thanks for any input. Please respond to me privately.

Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California, USA
r_ogus at hotmail.com

About two months ago, I sent a request for a death certificate to the Ontario
province vital records office. The request was sent on August 1. The address to
which I sent the request, as indicated on their standard form, was:

Office of the Registrar General
P. O. Box 4600
189 Red River Road
Thunder Bay, ON P7B 6L8

To date I have not had any response >from them, nor has my credit card been charged
with the fee.

My question is whether this length of time without any response is unusual. I
seem to remember hearing >from them much sooner in the past.

I've tried to phone the Office to find out the status of my request with no
success. The phone numbers they provide are:

In 416 area code: 325-8305
Rest of Ontario: 1-800-461-2156
Outside of Ontario: 1-416-325-8305

Since the 800 number does not work >from the USA, I have been trying to call the
416 area code number. The line seems to be busy all the time, so this does not
seem to be a correct number.

I sent an e-mail message to cbsinfo@cbs.gov.on.ca, and received a brief message
indicating that my message had been forward to the Office of the Registrar
General. However, I did not hear >from them again after this message.

I'd appreciate any feedback >from others who have had experience with requests for
vital records >from this office, as well as any suggestions as to how I can find
out the status of my request. Does anyone know of an alternate phone number to
use?

Thanks for any input. Please respond to me privately.

Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California, USA
r_ogus at hotmail.com