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Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Orlando (JGSGO) - November 21, 2005 Meeting AT 7:00 pm #general

Doris Frank <dofrank@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Orlando (JGSGO) will hold its
regular meeting on:

DATE: MONDAY - November 21, 2005 AT 7:00 PM

PLACE: Mini-Sanctuary of Congregation of Reform Judaism (CRJ) at 928 Malone
Drive, Orlando.

PROGRAM: Panel Presentation: "Being Successful in Genealogy- Ask those
Who Know!"
Panel will include Larry Morrell, Moderator; Jose Valle and CarlMigden.
Bring your questions.

Info and membership inquiries: Doris Frank, 407-323-9728


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Orlando (JGSGO) - November 21, 2005 Meeting AT 7:00 pm #general

Doris Frank <dofrank@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Orlando (JGSGO) will hold its
regular meeting on:

DATE: MONDAY - November 21, 2005 AT 7:00 PM

PLACE: Mini-Sanctuary of Congregation of Reform Judaism (CRJ) at 928 Malone
Drive, Orlando.

PROGRAM: Panel Presentation: "Being Successful in Genealogy- Ask those
Who Know!"
Panel will include Larry Morrell, Moderator; Jose Valle and CarlMigden.
Bring your questions.

Info and membership inquiries: Doris Frank, 407-323-9728


JGS Illinois Meeting: Novemebr 20, 2005 Skokie, IL #general

Mikekarsen@...
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Illinois will host a presentation by JGSI
member, Barry Finkel, at Temple Beth Israel, 3601 W. Dempster Street, Skokie,
Sunday, November 20th, 1:00-4:00 p.m. Mr. Finkel, an experienced genealogical
researcher, will discuss "Unusual Sources of Genealogical Information:
Undiscovered Riches". A nonprofit educational organization founded in 1981,
Jewish Genealogical Society of Illinois (JGSI), welcomes guests to its free
monthly meetings.

Have you always wanted to discover your family's history but didn't know
where to begin? Even if you don't know the names of your grandparents, where
your ancestors originated, or if their town was destroyed in the Holocaust, you
can trace your Jewish roots. Come to the meetings and learn how to start
your search, locate your family shtetls, and use research sources around the
world. JGSI has an extensive genealogical reference collection, and can
provide you with a list of useful websites. If you are a beginner and need help
getting started, members can assist you.

The meeting room will open at 1:00 p.m. for studying research materials and
asking questions. Gene Alpern, a very knowledgeable JGSI researcher, will
lead a question and answer session >from 1:15-1:45 p.m. The program on "Unusual
sources of Genealogical Information" will begin at 2 p.m. For more
information about these and future JGSI programs, visit
<http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsi> , or phone (312) 666-0100.

Mike Karsen

Researching: PEKARSKY (Zhitomir, Kotelnya, Berdichev, Khodorkov, Ukraine)
FROST (Bucharest, Alexandria, ROMANIA)
BLUMENFELD (Botosani, Roumania)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS Illinois Meeting: Novemebr 20, 2005 Skokie, IL #general

Mikekarsen@...
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Illinois will host a presentation by JGSI
member, Barry Finkel, at Temple Beth Israel, 3601 W. Dempster Street, Skokie,
Sunday, November 20th, 1:00-4:00 p.m. Mr. Finkel, an experienced genealogical
researcher, will discuss "Unusual Sources of Genealogical Information:
Undiscovered Riches". A nonprofit educational organization founded in 1981,
Jewish Genealogical Society of Illinois (JGSI), welcomes guests to its free
monthly meetings.

Have you always wanted to discover your family's history but didn't know
where to begin? Even if you don't know the names of your grandparents, where
your ancestors originated, or if their town was destroyed in the Holocaust, you
can trace your Jewish roots. Come to the meetings and learn how to start
your search, locate your family shtetls, and use research sources around the
world. JGSI has an extensive genealogical reference collection, and can
provide you with a list of useful websites. If you are a beginner and need help
getting started, members can assist you.

The meeting room will open at 1:00 p.m. for studying research materials and
asking questions. Gene Alpern, a very knowledgeable JGSI researcher, will
lead a question and answer session >from 1:15-1:45 p.m. The program on "Unusual
sources of Genealogical Information" will begin at 2 p.m. For more
information about these and future JGSI programs, visit
<http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsi> , or phone (312) 666-0100.

Mike Karsen

Researching: PEKARSKY (Zhitomir, Kotelnya, Berdichev, Khodorkov, Ukraine)
FROST (Bucharest, Alexandria, ROMANIA)
BLUMENFELD (Botosani, Roumania)


Guide to Jewish Genealogy in Latvia and Estonia #latvia

robert goldstein <robertg@...>
 

I have tried to order this book several times without success.
Each time I am told "Sorry there is no listing yet."
Is this the Mall's way of telling me that the book is out of stock?

Joan Moskowitz Goldstein
Jerusalem, Israel (formerly New York City)
Email replies to joan@rgoldstein.com
Researching descendants of :
GUTMAN, BASCH of =A0Siemiatycze of Bialystok Gubernia (now Poland).
MORSCHOVITZ, RABINOWITZ of Glazmanka (Gostini)=A0 Vitebsk Gubernia (now Latvia).


Latvia SIG #Latvia Guide to Jewish Genealogy in Latvia and Estonia #latvia

robert goldstein <robertg@...>
 

I have tried to order this book several times without success.
Each time I am told "Sorry there is no listing yet."
Is this the Mall's way of telling me that the book is out of stock?

Joan Moskowitz Goldstein
Jerusalem, Israel (formerly New York City)
Email replies to joan@rgoldstein.com
Researching descendants of :
GUTMAN, BASCH of =A0Siemiatycze of Bialystok Gubernia (now Poland).
MORSCHOVITZ, RABINOWITZ of Glazmanka (Gostini)=A0 Vitebsk Gubernia (now Latvia).


VERBA, VOHLYN and Afula, Israel #poland

ssroth@...
 

I have learned of a synagogue in Afula, Israel that was built by survivors
from VERBA, VOHLYN Gubernia (now in the Ukraine) in the years 1959-1960.
There is a big memorial wall to the Jews of VERBA who were murdered in the
Holocaust. It is a small synagogue. They are now facing the fact that the
synagogue is in bad condition and they need to do a big renovation in
order to keep the building >from destruction.

I am hoping to find anyone who can help me to find VERBA descendants or
anyone who is interested in helping us preserve this important synagogue
and that will help to keep the VERBA memory alive.

Please let me know if you have any ideas on how I can best go
about finding people who would be interested in helping us with this
project and if you may have come across any others looking for ancestors
from VERBA or towns nearby.
Thank you so much for anything that you can tell me.
Please reply privately to me:

Sincerely,
Sheree Roth
Palo Alto, CA
ssroth@pacbell.net


JRI Poland #Poland VERBA, VOHLYN and Afula, Israel #poland

ssroth@...
 

I have learned of a synagogue in Afula, Israel that was built by survivors
from VERBA, VOHLYN Gubernia (now in the Ukraine) in the years 1959-1960.
There is a big memorial wall to the Jews of VERBA who were murdered in the
Holocaust. It is a small synagogue. They are now facing the fact that the
synagogue is in bad condition and they need to do a big renovation in
order to keep the building >from destruction.

I am hoping to find anyone who can help me to find VERBA descendants or
anyone who is interested in helping us preserve this important synagogue
and that will help to keep the VERBA memory alive.

Please let me know if you have any ideas on how I can best go
about finding people who would be interested in helping us with this
project and if you may have come across any others looking for ancestors
from VERBA or towns nearby.
Thank you so much for anything that you can tell me.
Please reply privately to me:

Sincerely,
Sheree Roth
Palo Alto, CA
ssroth@pacbell.net


Belchatow LDS films #poland

HJB <hjb@...>
 

I have 4 films which include Belchatow Birth, Marriage & Death
Records on loan. I will be viewing them on Wednesday and would
be happy to print, scan & email records to assist you with your
research. The films are:

681041 1862-1865
766354 1866-1869
681038 1830-1843
1189029 1870-1873

I will need all information including name, type of record, year
of record and akt.

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Konyushki & Zurów, Galicia (now Zhuriv,
Ukraine), NYC;
STARK - Bóbrka, Galicia (now Ukraine), NYC; BELY - Rzeszów,
Poland
SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY - Belchatów & Lodz, Poland, NYC;
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland, NYC

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately to Hazel's generous offer.


JRI Poland #Poland Belchatow LDS films #poland

HJB <hjb@...>
 

I have 4 films which include Belchatow Birth, Marriage & Death
Records on loan. I will be viewing them on Wednesday and would
be happy to print, scan & email records to assist you with your
research. The films are:

681041 1862-1865
766354 1866-1869
681038 1830-1843
1189029 1870-1873

I will need all information including name, type of record, year
of record and akt.

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Konyushki & Zurów, Galicia (now Zhuriv,
Ukraine), NYC;
STARK - Bóbrka, Galicia (now Ukraine), NYC; BELY - Rzeszów,
Poland
SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY - Belchatów & Lodz, Poland, NYC;
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland, NYC

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately to Hazel's generous offer.


Panevezys Research #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

<<From: "Scott Noar" <srn26@cornell.edu>
Can someome please answer a question regarding Panavesch
(district, town, region) records.
The FAQ seems to indicate that records are in the Kaunas archives
but I thought I heard they were all move to the State Archives in
Vilnius.>>

No records have been moved >from the Kaunas archive to the Historical
Archive in Vilnius or vice-versa. Both archives contain records
pertaining to Panevezys and the Panevezys district and no duplication
is involved. Additional records can also be found in the Panevezys
archive as well as in the Central Archive in Vilnius pertaining to
the post World War I period.

If you refer to Miriam Weiner's website, www.rtrfoundation.org you will
find an index of all presently known records for the city of Panevezys.
An example is the following records stored in the Historical archive in
Vilnius - Census records - 1765; 1784; 1816; 1818; 1834/1845; 1853; 1908.

However, that can be different for various towns in the Panevezys district.
Example: the 1882 census for my shtetl of Pusalotas is in the Kaunas
archive.The 1876 and 1887 census records for Pumpenai are also in the
Kaunas archive.You just have to check out the available records for
Panevezys as well as for each town in the district as there are many
variations.

The Historical archive contains mainly vital records and census records
and the Kaunas archive contains predominately tax records, property
records, court records, police records and, for some towns, census
records.

<<Does anyone know which would be the best place to pay for
research? Also, I know it can take a while for the work to be done.
Is a private researcher as thorough and worth the money?>>

In my personal experience, I have seen no difference in the cost or
quality of work between the Historical Archive in Vilnius and two
private researchers I am aware of in Vilnius. You will obtain a
quicker response >from a private researcher, due to the heavier
workload experienced by the Historical Archive.

In Kaunas, the Kaunas archive is it, as I am not aware of a private
researcher in Kaunas. Vitalija Gircyte, Chief Archivist in the
Kaunas archive does an exceptional job in obtaining research results.

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia
homargol@aol.com


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Panevezys Research #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

<<From: "Scott Noar" <srn26@cornell.edu>
Can someome please answer a question regarding Panavesch
(district, town, region) records.
The FAQ seems to indicate that records are in the Kaunas archives
but I thought I heard they were all move to the State Archives in
Vilnius.>>

No records have been moved >from the Kaunas archive to the Historical
Archive in Vilnius or vice-versa. Both archives contain records
pertaining to Panevezys and the Panevezys district and no duplication
is involved. Additional records can also be found in the Panevezys
archive as well as in the Central Archive in Vilnius pertaining to
the post World War I period.

If you refer to Miriam Weiner's website, www.rtrfoundation.org you will
find an index of all presently known records for the city of Panevezys.
An example is the following records stored in the Historical archive in
Vilnius - Census records - 1765; 1784; 1816; 1818; 1834/1845; 1853; 1908.

However, that can be different for various towns in the Panevezys district.
Example: the 1882 census for my shtetl of Pusalotas is in the Kaunas
archive.The 1876 and 1887 census records for Pumpenai are also in the
Kaunas archive.You just have to check out the available records for
Panevezys as well as for each town in the district as there are many
variations.

The Historical archive contains mainly vital records and census records
and the Kaunas archive contains predominately tax records, property
records, court records, police records and, for some towns, census
records.

<<Does anyone know which would be the best place to pay for
research? Also, I know it can take a while for the work to be done.
Is a private researcher as thorough and worth the money?>>

In my personal experience, I have seen no difference in the cost or
quality of work between the Historical Archive in Vilnius and two
private researchers I am aware of in Vilnius. You will obtain a
quicker response >from a private researcher, due to the heavier
workload experienced by the Historical Archive.

In Kaunas, the Kaunas archive is it, as I am not aware of a private
researcher in Kaunas. Vitalija Gircyte, Chief Archivist in the
Kaunas archive does an exceptional job in obtaining research results.

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia
homargol@aol.com


Re: Gerrer Genealogy #rabbinic

Mordechai Heymann <Marc@...>
 

On 2005.11.05. Phillip Applebaum <philapple@comcast.net> wrote:

To what extent have genealogists traced the descendants of the
Chidushei HaRim? Is there a printed or online source one can
consult to look [..] anyone [..] who is a Chidushei HaRim
descendant?
Phil,

I have a considerable list of ancestors & descendants of the
Chidushei HaRim, The Rebbe, Rabbi Yitzchak Meir ROTTENBERG ( ALTER
). My Wife is the G.G.G. granddaughter of the Chidushei HaRim. You
can find the tree and details on our web site www.heymannfamily.com
(I have more information yet to be published).

I do *not* have an Ortman Family in that genealogy.

There are several other people around the world who have details on
the Gerrer Family Tree, but it is not accessible on the Internet.
It is difficult to construct a full genealogy going back 200 years
because of the status of records at the time, passage of time, the
Shoah, etc. For example the Chidushei HaRim had 14 children but we
know of only 10 today.

Siggers can contact me privately.

Mordechai Heymann
Melbourne, Australia


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Gerrer Genealogy #rabbinic

Mordechai Heymann <Marc@...>
 

On 2005.11.05. Phillip Applebaum <philapple@comcast.net> wrote:

To what extent have genealogists traced the descendants of the
Chidushei HaRim? Is there a printed or online source one can
consult to look [..] anyone [..] who is a Chidushei HaRim
descendant?
Phil,

I have a considerable list of ancestors & descendants of the
Chidushei HaRim, The Rebbe, Rabbi Yitzchak Meir ROTTENBERG ( ALTER
). My Wife is the G.G.G. granddaughter of the Chidushei HaRim. You
can find the tree and details on our web site www.heymannfamily.com
(I have more information yet to be published).

I do *not* have an Ortman Family in that genealogy.

There are several other people around the world who have details on
the Gerrer Family Tree, but it is not accessible on the Internet.
It is difficult to construct a full genealogy going back 200 years
because of the status of records at the time, passage of time, the
Shoah, etc. For example the Chidushei HaRim had 14 children but we
know of only 10 today.

Siggers can contact me privately.

Mordechai Heymann
Melbourne, Australia


Re: latvia digest: November 03, 2005 #latvia

Barbara Siegel
 

Dear Mike,
This site is a treasure. Thanks so much for posting it. How do you suggest
it would be best to save it? I added it to my Favorites, but that is not
too safe. I would like to print it out, but it might be just too much. Any
idea how many pages? Then, I could put it on a disc. What do you think?

Hope to see you in New York in August.

Warm regards,
Barbara Siegel

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Getz" <MikeGetz005@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 13:55:52 -0500

An extremely interesting site:
http://www.am.gov.lv/en/ministry/4265/4299/
-----------------------------


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: latvia digest: November 03, 2005 #latvia

Barbara Siegel
 

Dear Mike,
This site is a treasure. Thanks so much for posting it. How do you suggest
it would be best to save it? I added it to my Favorites, but that is not
too safe. I would like to print it out, but it might be just too much. Any
idea how many pages? Then, I could put it on a disc. What do you think?

Hope to see you in New York in August.

Warm regards,
Barbara Siegel

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Getz" <MikeGetz005@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 13:55:52 -0500

An extremely interesting site:
http://www.am.gov.lv/en/ministry/4265/4299/
-----------------------------


LISCHAUER/LEWIS #southafrica

Avi Lishower <lishower@...>
 

Dear friend

last week i get information about my (Lischauer) Lewis family who moved to
S.Africa
Leon Lewis his wife and three children moved to Johannesburg S.A i think in
between the 1890-1900
the youngest son Jack jack had 4 children i know only 3 names Emest ,Joyce
,Bella Jack visit our family in Portland sometimes
the other son of Leon named Mike
if somebody can lighted me about this family and about their descendent
i will be very thankful

best regard

Avi Lischauer

Ashdod Israel

Phone 972-8-8553846


Two books. #southafrica

Roger Harris <rwsh@...>
 

Sunday 13th November 2005.
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Dear Group,

I found the following two book descriptions in the catalogue pages of a book
published in 1930 and wondered whether they had any relevance to the
Jewish experience in South Africa. If so then they could be included in
the list of books on the Safrica bibiliography page at
http://www.jewishgen.org/SAfrica/bibliography/index.htm.

Please let me know your views.

Author of both: Pauline Smith

The Beadle - Novel of South Africa
"A story of great beauty, and told with simplicity and tenderness that
makes it linger in the memory. It is a notable contribution to the
literature
of the day." Morning Post.

The Little Karoo - Stories of South Africa. With an introduction by Arnold
Bennett. "Nothing like this has been written since Olive Schreiner and her
'Story of an African Farm' took the literary world by storm." The Daily
Telegraph.

Kind regards,

Roger Harris.


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica LISCHAUER/LEWIS #southafrica

Avi Lishower <lishower@...>
 

Dear friend

last week i get information about my (Lischauer) Lewis family who moved to
S.Africa
Leon Lewis his wife and three children moved to Johannesburg S.A i think in
between the 1890-1900
the youngest son Jack jack had 4 children i know only 3 names Emest ,Joyce
,Bella Jack visit our family in Portland sometimes
the other son of Leon named Mike
if somebody can lighted me about this family and about their descendent
i will be very thankful

best regard

Avi Lischauer

Ashdod Israel

Phone 972-8-8553846


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Two books. #southafrica

Roger Harris <rwsh@...>
 

Sunday 13th November 2005.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------


Dear Group,

I found the following two book descriptions in the catalogue pages of a book
published in 1930 and wondered whether they had any relevance to the
Jewish experience in South Africa. If so then they could be included in
the list of books on the Safrica bibiliography page at
http://www.jewishgen.org/SAfrica/bibliography/index.htm.

Please let me know your views.

Author of both: Pauline Smith

The Beadle - Novel of South Africa
"A story of great beauty, and told with simplicity and tenderness that
makes it linger in the memory. It is a notable contribution to the
literature
of the day." Morning Post.

The Little Karoo - Stories of South Africa. With an introduction by Arnold
Bennett. "Nothing like this has been written since Olive Schreiner and her
'Story of an African Farm' took the literary world by storm." The Daily
Telegraph.

Kind regards,

Roger Harris.