Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia RE: RUBIN from Rohatyn?
#galicia
yvette gluck <yvettegluck@...>
I was glad to read your email, as I have family >from Glogow, and I have
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not been able to find Glogow records. Are there records >from Glogow? If so, it would hold the key to much of my family's history. Yvette Gluck Reston, VA Researching BALKEN >from Glogow
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Subject: RUBIN >from Rohatyn? From: "E. B. M. Amidan" <amidan1@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 10:05:06 +0200 Dear Genners, Recently I've found a 1881 birth record of Abraham Meilech RUBIN from the town Rohatyn. I searched for the town Rohatyn, and the closest I could get was Rogatin - somewhere between Lviv and Ivano-Frankisk in nowdays Ukraine. I'd be grateful if you could comment on the following questions: 1. Are 19th century Rohatyn and modern Rogatin the same town? 2. In the "Town" column following the father's name (Luzer RUBIN) was written "Glogow". Does it mean that the father was born in Glogow? 3. I assume there are some 200 miles between Glogow and Rogatin (if it's actually Rohatyn). Was it common for Jews in the 19th century to relocate to distant towns? Thank you very much, Elisha Amidan Yokneam Village, Israel
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Rohatyn
#galicia
Joseph Hirschfield
Rohatyn is still Rohatyn in Ukrainian. It is almost directly 19 miles west
of Berezany and 38 miles north of Ivano-Frankisk. Joe Hirschfield Portage, MI USA MINOWITZKI, TOBIASZ-Belarus HIRSCHFELD, LINDBAUM- Skwarzawa, Glinyany, Sielec Bienkow, GALICIA
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Rohatyn
#galicia
Joseph Hirschfield
Glogow is 170 miles north-north-west of Lviv and 10 miles north of a large
city Rzeszow. That puts Glogow about 190 miles >from Rohatyn. It was not uncommon for Jews to resettle such a distance. Often is was when a man left to marry a woman in the new destination, but sometimes a family would relocate to places where they felt there would be better economic opportunities or for family considerations. Joe Hirschfield Portage, MI
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Re: RUBIN from Rohatyn?
#galicia
yvette gluck <yvettegluck@...>
I was glad to read your email, as I have family >from Glogow, and I have
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not been able to find Glogow records. Are there records >from Glogow? If so, it would hold the key to much of my family's history. Yvette Gluck Reston, VA Researching BALKEN >from Glogow
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Subject: RUBIN >from Rohatyn? From: "E. B. M. Amidan" <amidan1@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 10:05:06 +0200 Dear Genners, Recently I've found a 1881 birth record of Abraham Meilech RUBIN from the town Rohatyn. I searched for the town Rohatyn, and the closest I could get was Rogatin - somewhere between Lviv and Ivano-Frankisk in nowdays Ukraine. I'd be grateful if you could comment on the following questions: 1. Are 19th century Rohatyn and modern Rogatin the same town? 2. In the "Town" column following the father's name (Luzer RUBIN) was written "Glogow". Does it mean that the father was born in Glogow? 3. I assume there are some 200 miles between Glogow and Rogatin (if it's actually Rohatyn). Was it common for Jews in the 19th century to relocate to distant towns? Thank you very much, Elisha Amidan Yokneam Village, Israel
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Rohatyn
#galicia
Joseph Hirschfield
Rohatyn is still Rohatyn in Ukrainian. It is almost directly 19 miles west
of Berezany and 38 miles north of Ivano-Frankisk. Joe Hirschfield Portage, MI USA MINOWITZKI, TOBIASZ-Belarus HIRSCHFELD, LINDBAUM- Skwarzawa, Glinyany, Sielec Bienkow, GALICIA
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Rohatyn
#galicia
Joseph Hirschfield
Glogow is 170 miles north-north-west of Lviv and 10 miles north of a large
city Rzeszow. That puts Glogow about 190 miles >from Rohatyn. It was not uncommon for Jews to resettle such a distance. Often is was when a man left to marry a woman in the new destination, but sometimes a family would relocate to places where they felt there would be better economic opportunities or for family considerations. Joe Hirschfield Portage, MI
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Rohatyn/Rogatin
#galicia
Suzan & Ron Wynne <srwynne@...>
Rogatin and Rohatyn are, indeed, the same place. When the town of Rohatyn
came under Ukrainian rule after WWII, the transliteration of the Cyrillic was Rogatin. The reason for this is that, In Cyrillic, there is no "h." When words such as town names and personal names moved >from the Latin alphabet to Cyrillic, most of the time, words with "h" in them, are spelled with the equivalent "g." Suzan Wynne Kensington, MD
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Rohatyn/Rogatin
#galicia
Suzan & Ron Wynne <srwynne@...>
Rogatin and Rohatyn are, indeed, the same place. When the town of Rohatyn
came under Ukrainian rule after WWII, the transliteration of the Cyrillic was Rogatin. The reason for this is that, In Cyrillic, there is no "h." When words such as town names and personal names moved >from the Latin alphabet to Cyrillic, most of the time, words with "h" in them, are spelled with the equivalent "g." Suzan Wynne Kensington, MD
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Requesting translation of 1924 letter from Romanian into English
#romania
I have posted a short letter (VM6889) on ViewMate at
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6889 I would be very grateful for a translation >from Romanian into English of this 1924 letter >from 12-year-old Carolina Rappaport of Focsani, Romania, to her uncle Herman Landman of Kansas City, Missouri, USA. Thank you for your assistance. Martin Fischer Oak Park, Illinois, USA ----------- The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at: http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/
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Romania SIG #Romania Requesting translation of 1924 letter from Romanian into English
#romania
I have posted a short letter (VM6889) on ViewMate at
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6889 I would be very grateful for a translation >from Romanian into English of this 1924 letter >from 12-year-old Carolina Rappaport of Focsani, Romania, to her uncle Herman Landman of Kansas City, Missouri, USA. Thank you for your assistance. Martin Fischer Oak Park, Illinois, USA ----------- The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at: http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/
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Ukraine SIG News Alert
#ukraine
Deborah Glassman <dgg2020@...>
Dear Genners
You have started something very good, Please go to our Ukraine SIG webpage and look at the new postings on the Project Page http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/projects.htm -in the last two weeks you have sent in: 1) over a hundred family names with particular towns; 2) the names and occupations of dozens of residents of the Ukraine; 3) recipes and pictures of those who handed them down to you; 4) enough pictures and records to start a dozen new Town Pages focused on individual Jewish communities in the Ukraine 5) Many volunteer agreements and requests that we use your skills to make our SIG even more of a resource We want to help you do more. If you will send us pictures and or records of a town that is not yet on our list, we will create a new site for it. If you select a town that has been started, you will see your materials posted to it within days. If you are interested in a Birds of a Feather group dedicated to researching that community, we will create a page for your group linked to that town's page and you can watch both bring more fellow researchers to your door. If you have a Family Page or a Shtetl Link that you think should be connected we can do that also, again the more people that we can bring together with a community-centered interest, the better! Hurricane Rita interfered with the last two Wednesday announcements of our SIG News alert and Rosh Hashana is this coming week. So though its not on the schedule I originally announced, here is my next listing of towns which we are particularly seeking, remembering that we are really interested in every town in the Ukraine, the list is just a way to get the ball rolling: Balta and Yampol in Podolia Gubernia; Lipovets and Zvenigorodka in Kiev Gubernia; Gorodniya and Konotop in Chernigov Gub; Lokhvitsa and Zolotonosha in Poltava; Staro-Konstantinov and Kovel in Volhynnia. If you have any information about any town, on or off this list, please send it. And take this chance to wander around the website looking for things we can do to give you more information and ways you can help us do it. Are you willing to index English language records that list a Ukrainian town of birth? What if you can do it while sitting at home? Are you willing to photocopy foreign language materials so we can digitize them and get them indexed by someone who speaks that language? Are you willing to write letters to schools and town halls in the Ukraine to determine who has class pictures, or who has town plans that show where old buildings used to be? Will you maintain a list for us - anything >from Ukrainian Jewish communities that have created sister community or synagogue relations or place names in a single gubernia? Will you organize a Birds of a Feather Group or help one put together a regular newsletter we can post?Will you let other people know about the pictures and records and materials we need to help you be effective in your research? A Happy, Healthy New Year to you all, with many happy discoveries to be made this year! Deborah Glassman Co-Coordinator of the Ukraine SIG historian2020@comcast.net
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Ukraine SIG News Alert
#ukraine
Deborah Glassman <dgg2020@...>
Dear Genners
You have started something very good, Please go to our Ukraine SIG webpage and look at the new postings on the Project Page http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/projects.htm -in the last two weeks you have sent in: 1) over a hundred family names with particular towns; 2) the names and occupations of dozens of residents of the Ukraine; 3) recipes and pictures of those who handed them down to you; 4) enough pictures and records to start a dozen new Town Pages focused on individual Jewish communities in the Ukraine 5) Many volunteer agreements and requests that we use your skills to make our SIG even more of a resource We want to help you do more. If you will send us pictures and or records of a town that is not yet on our list, we will create a new site for it. If you select a town that has been started, you will see your materials posted to it within days. If you are interested in a Birds of a Feather group dedicated to researching that community, we will create a page for your group linked to that town's page and you can watch both bring more fellow researchers to your door. If you have a Family Page or a Shtetl Link that you think should be connected we can do that also, again the more people that we can bring together with a community-centered interest, the better! Hurricane Rita interfered with the last two Wednesday announcements of our SIG News alert and Rosh Hashana is this coming week. So though its not on the schedule I originally announced, here is my next listing of towns which we are particularly seeking, remembering that we are really interested in every town in the Ukraine, the list is just a way to get the ball rolling: Balta and Yampol in Podolia Gubernia; Lipovets and Zvenigorodka in Kiev Gubernia; Gorodniya and Konotop in Chernigov Gub; Lokhvitsa and Zolotonosha in Poltava; Staro-Konstantinov and Kovel in Volhynnia. If you have any information about any town, on or off this list, please send it. And take this chance to wander around the website looking for things we can do to give you more information and ways you can help us do it. Are you willing to index English language records that list a Ukrainian town of birth? What if you can do it while sitting at home? Are you willing to photocopy foreign language materials so we can digitize them and get them indexed by someone who speaks that language? Are you willing to write letters to schools and town halls in the Ukraine to determine who has class pictures, or who has town plans that show where old buildings used to be? Will you maintain a list for us - anything >from Ukrainian Jewish communities that have created sister community or synagogue relations or place names in a single gubernia? Will you organize a Birds of a Feather Group or help one put together a regular newsletter we can post?Will you let other people know about the pictures and records and materials we need to help you be effective in your research? A Happy, Healthy New Year to you all, with many happy discoveries to be made this year! Deborah Glassman Co-Coordinator of the Ukraine SIG historian2020@comcast.net
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Mt. Carmel cemetery - Phila
#general
Judith Lipmanson <lipmanson@...>
How nice to see this list again. Hope the move went well.
I am looking for a plat map of the Mt. Carmel Cemetery in Phila., located at Frankford and E. Cheltenham Aves. If someone has a copy showing row numbers and/or section letters/names, please contact me privately so I can arrange to get a copy. I recently discovered that my g-grandparents were buried at Mt. Carmel, and also their son, my g-uncle. This was quite a discovery, since no one in the family today has any information on these people. I visited Mt. Carmel this week. The cemetery is owned/managed by a florist/monument company located across the street. They also own or manage (I don't know the exact arrangement) 3 other cemeteries adjacent to or abutting Mt. Carmel. The staff at the florist shop were most accomodating, and let me go through the burial ledger for Mt. Carmel -- which they shouldn't have. The ledger dates back to 1832, is highly deteriorated >from age, acidic paper, and water damage (?). It also is falling apart and crumbling. The ledger is kept in a drawer, but should be in an archival vault and handled minimally, with white cotton, acid-free, gloves. I very gingerly turned pages, found my pages, and photographed them. The copies are excellent. The cemetery has no row, grave, or section markers -- or coordinates of any kind! The record book, however, does show a Lodge section, or a row and grave number. The notations are not consistent. A staff member walked me to the cemetery, and was able to point out, generally, the area where my g-grandparents' Lodge was located. He had no idea, however, where the third plot was. It was identified only by a Row letter and grave number. I found my g-grandparents after an hour of walking the rows in the section he identified vaguely; however an additional hour of walking did not turn up the third grave. The managers said they have no maps of the grounds, since ownership of the cemetery had passed through numerous owners and all that survived were the books. One clerk did say that they had been contacted by a group that "wanted to take the books" but had refused to relinquish them. I am guessing they had been contacted by either the Jewish Cemetery Project in Phila, or another similar organization, for purposes of digitizing the records and preserving the books. Don't know, but will ask. I would be most appreciative if someone has a map of Mt. Carmel and will make it available to me so I can return and photograph the third marker. Thanks in advance, Judith Lipmanson
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Stoker Service - What type of occupation is this?
#general
Howie Axelrod <highwind1@...>
One of my ancesters obits indicates he owned Libby's Stoker Service.
Time period was 1969, and area was Scranton, PA which was a large coal mining area. Can anyone tell me what type of a business this was?
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mt. Carmel cemetery - Phila
#general
Judith Lipmanson <lipmanson@...>
How nice to see this list again. Hope the move went well.
I am looking for a plat map of the Mt. Carmel Cemetery in Phila., located at Frankford and E. Cheltenham Aves. If someone has a copy showing row numbers and/or section letters/names, please contact me privately so I can arrange to get a copy. I recently discovered that my g-grandparents were buried at Mt. Carmel, and also their son, my g-uncle. This was quite a discovery, since no one in the family today has any information on these people. I visited Mt. Carmel this week. The cemetery is owned/managed by a florist/monument company located across the street. They also own or manage (I don't know the exact arrangement) 3 other cemeteries adjacent to or abutting Mt. Carmel. The staff at the florist shop were most accomodating, and let me go through the burial ledger for Mt. Carmel -- which they shouldn't have. The ledger dates back to 1832, is highly deteriorated >from age, acidic paper, and water damage (?). It also is falling apart and crumbling. The ledger is kept in a drawer, but should be in an archival vault and handled minimally, with white cotton, acid-free, gloves. I very gingerly turned pages, found my pages, and photographed them. The copies are excellent. The cemetery has no row, grave, or section markers -- or coordinates of any kind! The record book, however, does show a Lodge section, or a row and grave number. The notations are not consistent. A staff member walked me to the cemetery, and was able to point out, generally, the area where my g-grandparents' Lodge was located. He had no idea, however, where the third plot was. It was identified only by a Row letter and grave number. I found my g-grandparents after an hour of walking the rows in the section he identified vaguely; however an additional hour of walking did not turn up the third grave. The managers said they have no maps of the grounds, since ownership of the cemetery had passed through numerous owners and all that survived were the books. One clerk did say that they had been contacted by a group that "wanted to take the books" but had refused to relinquish them. I am guessing they had been contacted by either the Jewish Cemetery Project in Phila, or another similar organization, for purposes of digitizing the records and preserving the books. Don't know, but will ask. I would be most appreciative if someone has a map of Mt. Carmel and will make it available to me so I can return and photograph the third marker. Thanks in advance, Judith Lipmanson
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Stoker Service - What type of occupation is this?
#general
Howie Axelrod <highwind1@...>
One of my ancesters obits indicates he owned Libby's Stoker Service.
Time period was 1969, and area was Scranton, PA which was a large coal mining area. Can anyone tell me what type of a business this was?
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Anglo-Judaica
#general
Nick <tulse04-news@...>
I have just found this very interesting auction catalogue of Anglo-Judaica.
http://www.fishburnbooks.com/SynagogueCatalogue2003.pdf It contains a lot of memorabilia about individual synagogues - for instance the seatholders in 1892 of my grandfather's synagogue. If anyone was doing research on indidivual synagogues looking at this list might give them an idea of the existence of the documents in question. I recognise that these might now either be in archives or private collections. -- Nick Landau London, UK COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)
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Namelist - Kirchheimbolanden and surroundings (Bayern, Pfalz-Region)
#general
Hanna Goldmann
Dear All,
Here is a namelist (out of the book "Kirchheim und seine Bürger" (Kirchheim and its citizen), written by Konrad and Karl Theodor Lucae: ADLER, DECKER, DURLACHER, EWERS, FREIBERG, GOLDMANN, GOLDSCHMIDT, HEUMANN, HIRSCH, JOSEPH, KAHN, KAUFMANN, KLEIN, LEVI, LEVY, LEVIS, MAYER, METZGER, NEUGASS, SCHOENFELD, SCHOLEM, SCHWARZ, SILBERMANN, STERN, STRAUS, SULZBACHER, SUESKIND inclusive personal data and names of spouses. Partly 18th century, 19th century until WW II. Should anyone be interested in details please get in touch with me privately. Hanna Goldmann, Germany
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Anglo-Judaica
#general
Nick <tulse04-news@...>
I have just found this very interesting auction catalogue of Anglo-Judaica.
http://www.fishburnbooks.com/SynagogueCatalogue2003.pdf It contains a lot of memorabilia about individual synagogues - for instance the seatholders in 1892 of my grandfather's synagogue. If anyone was doing research on indidivual synagogues looking at this list might give them an idea of the existence of the documents in question. I recognise that these might now either be in archives or private collections. -- Nick Landau London, UK COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Namelist - Kirchheimbolanden and surroundings (Bayern, Pfalz-Region)
#general
Hanna Goldmann
Dear All,
Here is a namelist (out of the book "Kirchheim und seine Bürger" (Kirchheim and its citizen), written by Konrad and Karl Theodor Lucae: ADLER, DECKER, DURLACHER, EWERS, FREIBERG, GOLDMANN, GOLDSCHMIDT, HEUMANN, HIRSCH, JOSEPH, KAHN, KAUFMANN, KLEIN, LEVI, LEVY, LEVIS, MAYER, METZGER, NEUGASS, SCHOENFELD, SCHOLEM, SCHWARZ, SILBERMANN, STERN, STRAUS, SULZBACHER, SUESKIND inclusive personal data and names of spouses. Partly 18th century, 19th century until WW II. Should anyone be interested in details please get in touch with me privately. Hanna Goldmann, Germany
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