Date   

Rigapage Prussak photos #courland #latvia

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

Ancestors photos of the Prussak family were sent to me and I have
posted them on my Riga shtetlinks page.

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/riga/rigapage.htm
click on ancestors photos or go direct to URL
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/riga/Ancestors_Photos.htm

Arlene Beare
Webmaster Rigapage


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia Rigapage Prussak photos #courland #latvia

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

Ancestors photos of the Prussak family were sent to me and I have
posted them on my Riga shtetlinks page.

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/riga/rigapage.htm
click on ancestors photos or go direct to URL
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/riga/Ancestors_Photos.htm

Arlene Beare
Webmaster Rigapage


Re: CHAITOVICH family #southafrica

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

In regard to the CHAITOVICH family inquiry, you did not mention what
resources you had already used to locate information. Have you utilized,
for instance, the resources of JewishGEN such as the JGFF to locate others
researching your family name? Have you obtained any vital records for your
family? Stating these things in your inquiry helps those who may want to
assist you so that they don't duplicate your efforts.

I would suggest that you research your Manchester roots first so that you
can obtain the correct name for your family and their first names. You can
do several things towards this end:

1. Contact Lorna Kay of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Manchester.
2. Research the Manchester links on the Jewish Genealogy Society of Great
Britain web site.
3. Post an inquiry in the genealogy section of the Jewish newspaper in
Manchester.

After you have done that, if you haven't done it already, utilize the
following basic South African resources:

1. The SA SIG web site
2. The National Archives of South Africa.
3. The ROOTSWEB web site.

Good luck!!!

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Addition of Prussak photos #southafrica

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

Family photos of the Prussak family were sent to me and I have
posted them on my Riga shtetlinks page.
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/riga/rigapage.htm
click on ancestors photos or go direct to URL
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/riga/Ancestors_Photos.htm

Arlene Beare
Webmaster Rigapage


Salamon & Rappaport #southafrica

Jeff & Mel Osrin <jeffosri@...>
 

Hi All ,

I was wondering if anyone can help me regarding the Families Salamon and
Green . The problem is that I do not have many dates .

Meyer Oscar Salamon and Celia ( nee Tick) were >from Russia . They moved to
England with their children . The list below are their names .

Israel Salamon - ( eventually emigrated to America)
Sarah Ester Salamon born +- 1876( married Morris Rappaport - my great
grandfather, died in South Africa)
Raie Salamon ( married surname Wittenberg died in South Africa)
Minnie Salamon ( married surname Rieck died 1979/0/24 , buried Pinelands ,
South Africa)
Hyman Salamon (died 1964 - 03 - 28 in Cape Town South Africa)
Betty Salamon (married surname Fink , died 1986-01-24 Cape Town , South
Africa)
Beattie Salamon ( Married surname Krieger)
Sam Salamon
Nan Salamon (married surname Hessen , died 1964 - 11-29 in Cape Town South
Africa)

I am also looking for information about Jacob Green's 2 brothers . Jacob
married Rachel Unterschalg and moved to South Africa. His 2 brother were Sam
( moved >from Russia to Scotland) & Max ( who moved to America)

Thanks in Advance

Jeff Osrin
Cape Town
South Africa


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica RE: CHAITOVICH family #southafrica

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

In regard to the CHAITOVICH family inquiry, you did not mention what
resources you had already used to locate information. Have you utilized,
for instance, the resources of JewishGEN such as the JGFF to locate others
researching your family name? Have you obtained any vital records for your
family? Stating these things in your inquiry helps those who may want to
assist you so that they don't duplicate your efforts.

I would suggest that you research your Manchester roots first so that you
can obtain the correct name for your family and their first names. You can
do several things towards this end:

1. Contact Lorna Kay of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Manchester.
2. Research the Manchester links on the Jewish Genealogy Society of Great
Britain web site.
3. Post an inquiry in the genealogy section of the Jewish newspaper in
Manchester.

After you have done that, if you haven't done it already, utilize the
following basic South African resources:

1. The SA SIG web site
2. The National Archives of South Africa.
3. The ROOTSWEB web site.

Good luck!!!

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Addition of Prussak photos #southafrica

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

Family photos of the Prussak family were sent to me and I have
posted them on my Riga shtetlinks page.
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/riga/rigapage.htm
click on ancestors photos or go direct to URL
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/riga/Ancestors_Photos.htm

Arlene Beare
Webmaster Rigapage


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Salamon & Rappaport #southafrica

Jeff & Mel Osrin <jeffosri@...>
 

Hi All ,

I was wondering if anyone can help me regarding the Families Salamon and
Green . The problem is that I do not have many dates .

Meyer Oscar Salamon and Celia ( nee Tick) were >from Russia . They moved to
England with their children . The list below are their names .

Israel Salamon - ( eventually emigrated to America)
Sarah Ester Salamon born +- 1876( married Morris Rappaport - my great
grandfather, died in South Africa)
Raie Salamon ( married surname Wittenberg died in South Africa)
Minnie Salamon ( married surname Rieck died 1979/0/24 , buried Pinelands ,
South Africa)
Hyman Salamon (died 1964 - 03 - 28 in Cape Town South Africa)
Betty Salamon (married surname Fink , died 1986-01-24 Cape Town , South
Africa)
Beattie Salamon ( Married surname Krieger)
Sam Salamon
Nan Salamon (married surname Hessen , died 1964 - 11-29 in Cape Town South
Africa)

I am also looking for information about Jacob Green's 2 brothers . Jacob
married Rachel Unterschalg and moved to South Africa. His 2 brother were Sam
( moved >from Russia to Scotland) & Max ( who moved to America)

Thanks in Advance

Jeff Osrin
Cape Town
South Africa


Immigration to London from Eastern Europe #belarus

MavAlan Shaffer <mavalan_shaffer@...>
 

Dear JGenners,

Does anyone know if there is a website for immigration
to UK
similar to the one for Ellis Island to the US?

With thanks.

Mavis Shaffer
Essex, England



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Belarus SIG #Belarus Immigration to London from Eastern Europe #belarus

MavAlan Shaffer <mavalan_shaffer@...>
 

Dear JGenners,

Does anyone know if there is a website for immigration
to UK
similar to the one for Ellis Island to the US?

With thanks.

Mavis Shaffer
Essex, England



___________________________________________________________
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Jewish DP-Camp Feldafing #belarus

Tmahl <Tobias.Mahl@...>
 

Dear readers of this mailing list,

I am doing a research project for the authorities of the city of munich
concerning the history of the famous
Villa Waldberta in Feldafing at the Lake Starnberg near Munich. Today the
building is owned by the city of Munich and used as a residence for art
scholarship
holders.

from 1945-1952 the villa was occupied by the US-Army for the purposes of the
jewish Displaced-Persons-Camp in Feldafing.
The Archive of the Zentrum für Antisemitsimusforschung in Berlin keeps
copies of the "Leo-Schwarz-Papers" and "DP-Germany"-papers in which I found
several
lists with the names of inhabitants of the Villa Waldberta. The
inhabitants mainly came >from Eastern Europe and Germany. The city of Munich
and I are very
interested in finding persons who may be still alive and have lived in the
Villa during the described period or maybe any descendants of persons that
have lived in the building and have died in the meantime. Maybe you know
some of the names?

I have listed the names, the place of birth and the date of birth below.
Sometimes it is very difficult to read the original text so I have marked it
with a "?". It is then mainly meant as "Sounds like". "geb" means "born".
Here are the names:

Awend, Berend; geb. Auschwitz, 18.2.1918
Awend, Dina; geb. Skarzysko, 1.12.1920
Awend, Salomon; geb. Feldafing, 10.7.1947
Aport, Fischel; geb. Skarzysko, 10.9.1902
Ajzenbut (?), Haskiel; geb. Pinsk, 27.9.1887
Ajzenbut, Mirka; geb. Pinsk, 20.11.1893
Ajzenbut, Mowsza; geb. Pinsk, 24.6.1929
Ajzenbut, Estera; geb. Pinsk, 20.10.1927
Balaban, Szyfra; geb. Radzwikour (?), 2.1.1905
Baukowicz/Bajkowicz, Ilja/Elia; geb. Tylzyk (?), 3.5.1902
Baukowicz/Bajkowicz, Fruma; geb. Tylzyk (?), 24.12.1908
Baukowicz/Bajkowicz, Harry, geb. Tylzyk (?), 4.10.1936
Baukowicz/Bajkowicz, Jakob, geb. Tylzyk (?), 1.11.1938
Drzewo, Jakob, geb. Zawiereu (?), 11.11.1921
Drzewo, Jadzier (?), geb. Olkusz, 15.2.1929 (?)
Ellert, Hermann, geb. Nousztadt (Neustadt?), 21.10.1911
Ellert, Erna; geb. Auschwitz, 12.9.1920
Ellert, Heni; geb. Nousztadt (Neustadt?), 12.9.1922
Fischer, Febe (?); Auschwitz, 25.6.1925
Flurman, Luzer; Warschau, 7.11.1921
Flurman, Felen (?); Warschau, 22.5.1923
Flurman, Bruchen (?); Feldafing, 24.10.1946
Finkielsztayn, Abram; geb. Przysucha, 10.3.1918
Finkielsztayn, Sabina; geb. Przysucha, 4.11.1924
Grun (?), Izdor; geb. Milowka, 23.9.1911
Grun (?), Morja; geb. Sosnowiec, 1.5.1920
Grun (?), Bert; geb. München, 29.12.1946
Gordon, Jakob; geb. Kurpi (?), 10.1.1896
Gordon, Rachela; geb. Kowno, 6.8.1912
Gordon, Moses; geb. Memel, 8.4.1926
Gordon, Jakob (no further information)
Galperin, Haskiel; geb. Szeiwle (?), 20.7.1921
Galperin, Sara; geb. Szeiwle (?), 15.3.1898
Kutner, Pejsach/Pesach; geb. Ozorkow, 23.2.1901
Kutner, Marja; geb. Ozorkow, 12.05.1906
Kutner, Leib; geb. ?, 12.12.1924
Kutner, Peppi; geb. Pojend.Rin (?), 28.1.1926
Kiperman(n), Hersch/Hersz; geb. Radziwillow, 2.1.1902
Kiperman(n), Hana; geb. Radziwillow, 3.6.1905
Kiperman(n), Ita; geb. Radziwillow, 4.5.1931
Kielczyglowksi, Berek; geb. Ozsstochowe (?), 18.3.1918
Kielczyglowksi, ?, geb. Radomsk, 1.9.1924
Kielczyglowksi, Aydyl; geb. Feldafing, 29.3.1947
Kirsz, Oszer, Lodz, 1.5.1909
Kirsz, Rosze (?), ?, 5.5.1917
Kirsz, Abram; Feldafing, 29.3.1947
Kaweblum, Helen; geb. Lodz, 6.10.1917
Lechler, Eugennie (?); geb. Tarnow, 24.6.1921
Lechler, Gustav; geb. München, 1.8.1947
Lewkowicz, ?; geb. Olkusz, 1.8.1921
Lewkowicz, Abram; geb. Sosnowiec, 15.5.1921
Lipszyc, Zendel; geb. Kowno, 15.2.1906
Lipszyc, Rachela; geb. Kowno, 15.4.1910
Lipzyc, Mayer/Wolf.; geb. Feldafing, 29.1.1946
Mielich, Hersch; geb. Czestochowa, 13.6.1921
Mielich, Blume, geb. Plock; 18.6.1922
Mielich, Abram; geb. Feldafing, 29.1.1946
Najber(..), Izrael; geb. Pinczew, 28.3.1905
Najber(...), (?), geb. Plock, 18.6.1922
Najber(...), Cywja (?); Feldafing, 20.3.1947
Perelmuter, Haim; geb. Szczercow, 3.6.1909
Reysztayn, Elgasz; geb. Krakau, 22.2.1922
Reysztayn, Frieda; geb. Auschwitz, 25.6.1923
Rozencwayg, Fanach; geb. Lodz, 10.11.1913
Rozencwayg, Bela; geb. Litomirsk, 8.7.1920
Rozencwayg, Laje (?); geb. Feldafing, 19.10.1946
Skora, Samuel; geb. Sosnowitz, 16.4.1919
Skora, Stella; geb. Zywiec, 10.8.1923
Taube, Szlamek; geb. Tobieszki (?), 8.12.1913
Transport, Bronia; geb. Plock, 3.3.1923
Transport Mania; geb. Plock, 5.5.1916
Wolman, Majer; geb. Warschau, 22.9.1920
Wolman, Rozia (?); geb. Warschau, 5.12.1925
Wolman, Pessa (?); geb. Feldafing, 26.8.1946
Zyndorf, Icek (?); geb. Sosnowitz, 10.2.1913
Zyndorf, Dora; geb. Sosnowitz, 20.7.1926
Zyndorf, Benjamin; geb. Wolbrom (?), 10.4.1918
Zyndorf, Genu (?); geb. Dzialoszyn, 14.8.1926
Zwirn, David; geb.Korczs(...), 15.3.1924
Zwirn, Genie(...); geb. Bidzin (?), 7.3.1927

Further Names:

Sowinska (no further information)
Lehrer, Eugenia; Tarnow, 24.6.192?
Lehrer, Leon; Stryi, 14.9.1918

Thanks for your help!

Tobias Mahl Munich Gerrmany


Belarus SIG #Belarus Jewish DP-Camp Feldafing #belarus

Tmahl <Tobias.Mahl@...>
 

Dear readers of this mailing list,

I am doing a research project for the authorities of the city of munich
concerning the history of the famous
Villa Waldberta in Feldafing at the Lake Starnberg near Munich. Today the
building is owned by the city of Munich and used as a residence for art
scholarship
holders.

from 1945-1952 the villa was occupied by the US-Army for the purposes of the
jewish Displaced-Persons-Camp in Feldafing.
The Archive of the Zentrum für Antisemitsimusforschung in Berlin keeps
copies of the "Leo-Schwarz-Papers" and "DP-Germany"-papers in which I found
several
lists with the names of inhabitants of the Villa Waldberta. The
inhabitants mainly came >from Eastern Europe and Germany. The city of Munich
and I are very
interested in finding persons who may be still alive and have lived in the
Villa during the described period or maybe any descendants of persons that
have lived in the building and have died in the meantime. Maybe you know
some of the names?

I have listed the names, the place of birth and the date of birth below.
Sometimes it is very difficult to read the original text so I have marked it
with a "?". It is then mainly meant as "Sounds like". "geb" means "born".
Here are the names:

Awend, Berend; geb. Auschwitz, 18.2.1918
Awend, Dina; geb. Skarzysko, 1.12.1920
Awend, Salomon; geb. Feldafing, 10.7.1947
Aport, Fischel; geb. Skarzysko, 10.9.1902
Ajzenbut (?), Haskiel; geb. Pinsk, 27.9.1887
Ajzenbut, Mirka; geb. Pinsk, 20.11.1893
Ajzenbut, Mowsza; geb. Pinsk, 24.6.1929
Ajzenbut, Estera; geb. Pinsk, 20.10.1927
Balaban, Szyfra; geb. Radzwikour (?), 2.1.1905
Baukowicz/Bajkowicz, Ilja/Elia; geb. Tylzyk (?), 3.5.1902
Baukowicz/Bajkowicz, Fruma; geb. Tylzyk (?), 24.12.1908
Baukowicz/Bajkowicz, Harry, geb. Tylzyk (?), 4.10.1936
Baukowicz/Bajkowicz, Jakob, geb. Tylzyk (?), 1.11.1938
Drzewo, Jakob, geb. Zawiereu (?), 11.11.1921
Drzewo, Jadzier (?), geb. Olkusz, 15.2.1929 (?)
Ellert, Hermann, geb. Nousztadt (Neustadt?), 21.10.1911
Ellert, Erna; geb. Auschwitz, 12.9.1920
Ellert, Heni; geb. Nousztadt (Neustadt?), 12.9.1922
Fischer, Febe (?); Auschwitz, 25.6.1925
Flurman, Luzer; Warschau, 7.11.1921
Flurman, Felen (?); Warschau, 22.5.1923
Flurman, Bruchen (?); Feldafing, 24.10.1946
Finkielsztayn, Abram; geb. Przysucha, 10.3.1918
Finkielsztayn, Sabina; geb. Przysucha, 4.11.1924
Grun (?), Izdor; geb. Milowka, 23.9.1911
Grun (?), Morja; geb. Sosnowiec, 1.5.1920
Grun (?), Bert; geb. München, 29.12.1946
Gordon, Jakob; geb. Kurpi (?), 10.1.1896
Gordon, Rachela; geb. Kowno, 6.8.1912
Gordon, Moses; geb. Memel, 8.4.1926
Gordon, Jakob (no further information)
Galperin, Haskiel; geb. Szeiwle (?), 20.7.1921
Galperin, Sara; geb. Szeiwle (?), 15.3.1898
Kutner, Pejsach/Pesach; geb. Ozorkow, 23.2.1901
Kutner, Marja; geb. Ozorkow, 12.05.1906
Kutner, Leib; geb. ?, 12.12.1924
Kutner, Peppi; geb. Pojend.Rin (?), 28.1.1926
Kiperman(n), Hersch/Hersz; geb. Radziwillow, 2.1.1902
Kiperman(n), Hana; geb. Radziwillow, 3.6.1905
Kiperman(n), Ita; geb. Radziwillow, 4.5.1931
Kielczyglowksi, Berek; geb. Ozsstochowe (?), 18.3.1918
Kielczyglowksi, ?, geb. Radomsk, 1.9.1924
Kielczyglowksi, Aydyl; geb. Feldafing, 29.3.1947
Kirsz, Oszer, Lodz, 1.5.1909
Kirsz, Rosze (?), ?, 5.5.1917
Kirsz, Abram; Feldafing, 29.3.1947
Kaweblum, Helen; geb. Lodz, 6.10.1917
Lechler, Eugennie (?); geb. Tarnow, 24.6.1921
Lechler, Gustav; geb. München, 1.8.1947
Lewkowicz, ?; geb. Olkusz, 1.8.1921
Lewkowicz, Abram; geb. Sosnowiec, 15.5.1921
Lipszyc, Zendel; geb. Kowno, 15.2.1906
Lipszyc, Rachela; geb. Kowno, 15.4.1910
Lipzyc, Mayer/Wolf.; geb. Feldafing, 29.1.1946
Mielich, Hersch; geb. Czestochowa, 13.6.1921
Mielich, Blume, geb. Plock; 18.6.1922
Mielich, Abram; geb. Feldafing, 29.1.1946
Najber(..), Izrael; geb. Pinczew, 28.3.1905
Najber(...), (?), geb. Plock, 18.6.1922
Najber(...), Cywja (?); Feldafing, 20.3.1947
Perelmuter, Haim; geb. Szczercow, 3.6.1909
Reysztayn, Elgasz; geb. Krakau, 22.2.1922
Reysztayn, Frieda; geb. Auschwitz, 25.6.1923
Rozencwayg, Fanach; geb. Lodz, 10.11.1913
Rozencwayg, Bela; geb. Litomirsk, 8.7.1920
Rozencwayg, Laje (?); geb. Feldafing, 19.10.1946
Skora, Samuel; geb. Sosnowitz, 16.4.1919
Skora, Stella; geb. Zywiec, 10.8.1923
Taube, Szlamek; geb. Tobieszki (?), 8.12.1913
Transport, Bronia; geb. Plock, 3.3.1923
Transport Mania; geb. Plock, 5.5.1916
Wolman, Majer; geb. Warschau, 22.9.1920
Wolman, Rozia (?); geb. Warschau, 5.12.1925
Wolman, Pessa (?); geb. Feldafing, 26.8.1946
Zyndorf, Icek (?); geb. Sosnowitz, 10.2.1913
Zyndorf, Dora; geb. Sosnowitz, 20.7.1926
Zyndorf, Benjamin; geb. Wolbrom (?), 10.4.1918
Zyndorf, Genu (?); geb. Dzialoszyn, 14.8.1926
Zwirn, David; geb.Korczs(...), 15.3.1924
Zwirn, Genie(...); geb. Bidzin (?), 7.3.1927

Further Names:

Sowinska (no further information)
Lehrer, Eugenia; Tarnow, 24.6.192?
Lehrer, Leon; Stryi, 14.9.1918

Thanks for your help!

Tobias Mahl Munich Gerrmany


Re: Searching location of Sitnija, Ukraine #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Marjorie Goldberg wrote

We are looking for a town or village in Ukraine that sounds like Sitnija.
Various family members say the name differently. I have also heard,
Shittinya and Shitneya.

The only other clues I have is that it may be near or related to Jomel
and Sloboda, all supposedly in Ukraine, but I have not been able to find
any of the above.
Just a postscriptum to Marjorie query.
It was after all small village Sitnya in Belarus (not Ukraine), located half
way between Mazyr and Kalinkavichi (approx. 3 miles distance >from each of
those larger towns).

We could only became certain that the village name was correct when Marjorie
has provided researched family surname: KOMISSARCHIK. Surname is already
listed several times in JGFF database for the nearby Kalinkavichi and
Rechitsa, it also appears in Belarus SIG amongst the names of Duma voters
and the other references.

It just confirms that it is very helpful to furnish researched surnames
together with the town inquiry.

--
Regards,

Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Searching location of Sitnija, Ukraine #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Marjorie Goldberg wrote

We are looking for a town or village in Ukraine that sounds like Sitnija.
Various family members say the name differently. I have also heard,
Shittinya and Shitneya.

The only other clues I have is that it may be near or related to Jomel
and Sloboda, all supposedly in Ukraine, but I have not been able to find
any of the above.
Just a postscriptum to Marjorie query.
It was after all small village Sitnya in Belarus (not Ukraine), located half
way between Mazyr and Kalinkavichi (approx. 3 miles distance >from each of
those larger towns).

We could only became certain that the village name was correct when Marjorie
has provided researched family surname: KOMISSARCHIK. Surname is already
listed several times in JGFF database for the nearby Kalinkavichi and
Rechitsa, it also appears in Belarus SIG amongst the names of Duma voters
and the other references.

It just confirms that it is very helpful to furnish researched surnames
together with the town inquiry.

--
Regards,

Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor


Re: Zasenhoff #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Dorothy Rivers wrote

Dear Genners,

Here's a "kashe" for you. Where is Zassnhof? I have an ancestor born in
Zassenhof and since the rest of the family came >from Riga I figure
Zassenhof
is in Latvia. Maybe it's got a new name!
Dorothy,

Place was actually known as Sassenhof and it became part of Riga.

There are several references to "Sassenhof bei Reiga"

Sassenhof appears to be also name of the Riga train station:
Esatblished in 1877 railway line (55 km length) known as Riga- Tuckum EB run
through three stations: Tokum-Jurmala-Sasenhoff (Riga)

Refer to "Sassenhoff bei Riga" historical pictures at:

http://tinyurl.com/9md9g

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Zasenhoff #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Dorothy Rivers wrote

Dear Genners,

Here's a "kashe" for you. Where is Zassnhof? I have an ancestor born in
Zassenhof and since the rest of the family came >from Riga I figure
Zassenhof
is in Latvia. Maybe it's got a new name!
Dorothy,

Place was actually known as Sassenhof and it became part of Riga.

There are several references to "Sassenhof bei Reiga"

Sassenhof appears to be also name of the Riga train station:
Esatblished in 1877 railway line (55 km length) known as Riga- Tuckum EB run
through three stations: Tokum-Jurmala-Sasenhoff (Riga)

Refer to "Sassenhoff bei Riga" historical pictures at:

http://tinyurl.com/9md9g

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


Thank you for your response to finding a relative's NYC death certificate #general

Barbara Musikar
 

I want to thank all of those lists members who wrote me with suggestions
and even offered to find the death certificates of my great grandmother,
Sarah KLEMPNER and great aunt, Josephine CORN. I have still not been
successful in locating their death certificates, but I now have the tools
with which to search for them.

After my daughter's wedding, when things will be less hectic than they are
now, I will be making a concerted effort to find these "missing" documents.

Barbara Musikar
President of JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.

KLEMPNER, CORN, PADELOFSKY, WALKOWISKI, ROISMAN, LEV, Brest, Kobrin, Belarus
SAMSONOWITZ, KRUPENY, KRUPERNICK, WIDOLOK, Slonim, Belarus
MUZYKANT, GLASS, SCHWARTZ, WINICK, WARNICK, KOTIK, Luninets, Kozhan Gorodok,
Belarus
RUBIN, BERGER, ROTH, PILZER, HELLER, KOGUT, WEIDERMAN, PADWA,Strusow, Zazdrost,
Ukraine


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thank you for your response to finding a relative's NYC death certificate #general

Barbara Musikar
 

I want to thank all of those lists members who wrote me with suggestions
and even offered to find the death certificates of my great grandmother,
Sarah KLEMPNER and great aunt, Josephine CORN. I have still not been
successful in locating their death certificates, but I now have the tools
with which to search for them.

After my daughter's wedding, when things will be less hectic than they are
now, I will be making a concerted effort to find these "missing" documents.

Barbara Musikar
President of JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.

KLEMPNER, CORN, PADELOFSKY, WALKOWISKI, ROISMAN, LEV, Brest, Kobrin, Belarus
SAMSONOWITZ, KRUPENY, KRUPERNICK, WIDOLOK, Slonim, Belarus
MUZYKANT, GLASS, SCHWARTZ, WINICK, WARNICK, KOTIK, Luninets, Kozhan Gorodok,
Belarus
RUBIN, BERGER, ROTH, PILZER, HELLER, KOGUT, WEIDERMAN, PADWA,Strusow, Zazdrost,
Ukraine


Re: Questions regarding Kolomea Vital Records #galicia

Mark Halpern
 

Elisha:

Happy to try and help. Please see my responses inserted below.

Mark Halpern
JRI-Poland AGAD Archive Coordinator

Dear Genners,

I've received a bunch of birth, marriage and death records of my
Kolomea family (thanks to the JRI-PL team). Deciphering the
documents is not easy, as they are written in Polish and German,
the registrars' cursive handwriting sometimes is almost illegible
and some of the copies are of poor quality. The records date from
the 1880's and 1890's.

I'd appreciate getting some help on the following questions:

1.) Marriage records:
a. Rabbi Jacob Thumim, who performed the marriages (column 5
in the records), was referred to as "rabin szkolnik". What does
"szkolnik"
mean? A "melamed" (teacher)?
Szkolnik is Polish for teacher and Melamed is Hebrew. Rabin Szkolnik
could mean Rabbi and Teacher or Rabbi's Assistant.

b. In the marriage records of my g.g.g.parents, Meir
LEDERFEIND (1825-1898) and Feige BRENNER (1834-1899),
I found the home town of Feige's family: (Upper) Majdana or Majdnie.
Does anyone know this town?
Majdan Gorne, now called Verkhiny Maydan, is located at coordinates
4837, 2440, 18 miles WNW of Kolomyja and 4 miles ESE of Nadworna. The
vital records for Majdan Gorne were registered at the Jewish Community
registrar of Nadworna.

2.) Birth records:
a. In the last column of the record ("Comments") is a
statement that could mean something like: "I, father's name, declare
this
child to be mine." Is it right?
Yes, when the parent's did not have a marriage recognized by the
government authorities they were not considered married and the children
were considered illegitimate by the State. The regulations did not allow
the father's name to be recorded in the "Father" column, but allowed the
father to make a statement of Paternity in front of two witnesses. This
sworn statement was recorded in the Remarks (far right) column.

3.) Addresses:
a. In the records no street names are mentioned. Kolomea was a
fairly large town. Could it be that towards the end of the 19th
century there were no street names?
Yes, the only town in eastern Galicia where street numbers were used
before the 20th Century was Lwow.

b. Instead of street names there were house numbers, e.g., 364
1/4. I figure out that 1/4 means 1st flat of 4 flats in that house. Is
it
so?
I think you are correct. Although I have not seen that type of recording
on birth records, I have seen this type of recording on Census records
in 1890 and 1910. By the way, in Tarnopol the 1890 Census utilized house
numbers and the 1910 Census used street addresses.

4.) EIFERMAN >from Jerusalem, Palestine:
a. In the birth record of my g.mother, Taube PALKER (born 1881)
is written, that her mother's parents are Chaim and Rifka EIFERMAN
from Jerusalem. Other records mention they were >from Palestine. Does
this make sense? How do you explain this?
If I recall my Israel Aliyah history correctly, the Eastern European
emigration to Eretz Yisroel began in the 1880s and surely included
Zionists >from Galicia. If you search the JRI-Poland database for the
town of Jerozolima or Jerusalem, you will find over 100 records where
some person referenced in that record lived in Jerusalem. Likewise a
search for Palestine or Palestyna will result in over 100 matches. And a
search for New York or Nowy Jork will result in over 50 hits.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Questions regarding Kolomea Vital Records #galicia

Mark Halpern
 

Elisha:

Happy to try and help. Please see my responses inserted below.

Mark Halpern
JRI-Poland AGAD Archive Coordinator

Dear Genners,

I've received a bunch of birth, marriage and death records of my
Kolomea family (thanks to the JRI-PL team). Deciphering the
documents is not easy, as they are written in Polish and German,
the registrars' cursive handwriting sometimes is almost illegible
and some of the copies are of poor quality. The records date from
the 1880's and 1890's.

I'd appreciate getting some help on the following questions:

1.) Marriage records:
a. Rabbi Jacob Thumim, who performed the marriages (column 5
in the records), was referred to as "rabin szkolnik". What does
"szkolnik"
mean? A "melamed" (teacher)?
Szkolnik is Polish for teacher and Melamed is Hebrew. Rabin Szkolnik
could mean Rabbi and Teacher or Rabbi's Assistant.

b. In the marriage records of my g.g.g.parents, Meir
LEDERFEIND (1825-1898) and Feige BRENNER (1834-1899),
I found the home town of Feige's family: (Upper) Majdana or Majdnie.
Does anyone know this town?
Majdan Gorne, now called Verkhiny Maydan, is located at coordinates
4837, 2440, 18 miles WNW of Kolomyja and 4 miles ESE of Nadworna. The
vital records for Majdan Gorne were registered at the Jewish Community
registrar of Nadworna.

2.) Birth records:
a. In the last column of the record ("Comments") is a
statement that could mean something like: "I, father's name, declare
this
child to be mine." Is it right?
Yes, when the parent's did not have a marriage recognized by the
government authorities they were not considered married and the children
were considered illegitimate by the State. The regulations did not allow
the father's name to be recorded in the "Father" column, but allowed the
father to make a statement of Paternity in front of two witnesses. This
sworn statement was recorded in the Remarks (far right) column.

3.) Addresses:
a. In the records no street names are mentioned. Kolomea was a
fairly large town. Could it be that towards the end of the 19th
century there were no street names?
Yes, the only town in eastern Galicia where street numbers were used
before the 20th Century was Lwow.

b. Instead of street names there were house numbers, e.g., 364
1/4. I figure out that 1/4 means 1st flat of 4 flats in that house. Is
it
so?
I think you are correct. Although I have not seen that type of recording
on birth records, I have seen this type of recording on Census records
in 1890 and 1910. By the way, in Tarnopol the 1890 Census utilized house
numbers and the 1910 Census used street addresses.

4.) EIFERMAN >from Jerusalem, Palestine:
a. In the birth record of my g.mother, Taube PALKER (born 1881)
is written, that her mother's parents are Chaim and Rifka EIFERMAN
from Jerusalem. Other records mention they were >from Palestine. Does
this make sense? How do you explain this?
If I recall my Israel Aliyah history correctly, the Eastern European
emigration to Eretz Yisroel began in the 1880s and surely included
Zionists >from Galicia. If you search the JRI-Poland database for the
town of Jerozolima or Jerusalem, you will find over 100 records where
some person referenced in that record lived in Jerusalem. Likewise a
search for Palestine or Palestyna will result in over 100 matches. And a
search for New York or Nowy Jork will result in over 50 hits.