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* Rare book on auction #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,
A very well known online auction site is auctioning THE MARTYRDOM OF HUNGARIAN JEWRY by Jeno Levai, published in 1948, likely the first account of the Holocaust in Hungary.
Regards
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Hungary SIG #Hungary * Rare book on auction #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,
A very well known online auction site is auctioning THE MARTYRDOM OF HUNGARIAN JEWRY by Jeno Levai, published in 1948, likely the first account of the Holocaust in Hungary.
Regards
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


New Research Aid #hungary

Gabriela Svatos
 

There is a new search engine which is in Beta testing which searches the
contents of books. They are trying to scan as many books as possible onto
the internet. I tried searching for individual surnames like ASCHNER,
VENETIANER, EHRENTHAL, as well as compound searches for Hungarian Jewry,
Czech Jews, etc. The results are quite interesting and unlike results >from
the usual internet search engines:


http://print.google.com/

Happy hunting,
Gabi

Gabriela Svatos
Richmond Hill, Ontario
E-mail: gsvatos@hotmail.com
Business E-mail: bookstore@agawa.com
Business URL: www.abe.com/home/GSVATOS


TRANSLATION OF WORD PLEASE #hungary

B. Frederics <picturethisfilm@...>
 

Hi Siggers,

Although we've posted this word before with minimal success, it's been a
while and I've been able to enlarge it considerably >from the film. It's
the
occupation of my 2nd gr-grandfather on his death record. It would be
wonderful if someone could tell me the word and it's meaning. It's in
German
and can be found at http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html and it's
file VM7046.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, AZ
picturethisfilm@email.com
Seeking: ZEISLER/CZEISLER; LOWY; UNGAR. GROEDEL; WEINER; ERNST/ECSEDI =
(Eger,
DiosGyor, Kazincz, Ga'cs, Marmarross, Budapest, Szolnok; Szentes; =
Kapolna;
Tarnamera, Ujfalu; Vacs)


Re: COHEN, GOLDENBERG, CREIMER, BLUM from Novoselitsa #romania

Moshe & Esther Davis <davis@...>
 

Hi, I am researching on my family. I would like to know if someone
has information concerning the people who lived specially in
Novoselitsa (Novoselitz), Romania, now Ukraine, specially Yanchel
Volicovici COHEN who married Esther Beila CREIMER.
There are a number of different towns which carried the name
Novoselitsa. Are you certain that the one that you are interested in
was in *Romania* and now in Ukraine? There is a town
Novoselitsa that was located in the former Austro-Hungarian county
of Marmaros, at 4807 N, 2346 E. The town was known in
Hungarian as Taracujfalu.

When the Marmaros region was broken up after WW1, the
southern part was given to Romania, and the northern part
(including Novoselitsa) was given to Czechoslovakia. After WW2,
this Czechoslovakian part of Marmaros was taken by the USSR,
and now it is part of the Republic of Ukraine.

There is a full-page article about this Novoselitsa in the Marmaros
Yizkor Book, which has not as yet been translated as part of the
ongoing translation project:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/maramures/Maramures.html

Moshe Davis
Jerusalem


Hungary SIG #Hungary New Research Aid #hungary

Gabriela Svatos
 

There is a new search engine which is in Beta testing which searches the
contents of books. They are trying to scan as many books as possible onto
the internet. I tried searching for individual surnames like ASCHNER,
VENETIANER, EHRENTHAL, as well as compound searches for Hungarian Jewry,
Czech Jews, etc. The results are quite interesting and unlike results >from
the usual internet search engines:


http://print.google.com/

Happy hunting,
Gabi

Gabriela Svatos
Richmond Hill, Ontario
E-mail: gsvatos@hotmail.com
Business E-mail: bookstore@agawa.com
Business URL: www.abe.com/home/GSVATOS


Hungary SIG #Hungary TRANSLATION OF WORD PLEASE #hungary

B. Frederics <picturethisfilm@...>
 

Hi Siggers,

Although we've posted this word before with minimal success, it's been a
while and I've been able to enlarge it considerably >from the film. It's
the
occupation of my 2nd gr-grandfather on his death record. It would be
wonderful if someone could tell me the word and it's meaning. It's in
German
and can be found at http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html and it's
file VM7046.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, AZ
picturethisfilm@email.com
Seeking: ZEISLER/CZEISLER; LOWY; UNGAR. GROEDEL; WEINER; ERNST/ECSEDI =
(Eger,
DiosGyor, Kazincz, Ga'cs, Marmarross, Budapest, Szolnok; Szentes; =
Kapolna;
Tarnamera, Ujfalu; Vacs)


Romania SIG #Romania Re: COHEN, GOLDENBERG, CREIMER, BLUM from Novoselitsa #romania

Moshe & Esther Davis <davis@...>
 

Hi, I am researching on my family. I would like to know if someone
has information concerning the people who lived specially in
Novoselitsa (Novoselitz), Romania, now Ukraine, specially Yanchel
Volicovici COHEN who married Esther Beila CREIMER.
There are a number of different towns which carried the name
Novoselitsa. Are you certain that the one that you are interested in
was in *Romania* and now in Ukraine? There is a town
Novoselitsa that was located in the former Austro-Hungarian county
of Marmaros, at 4807 N, 2346 E. The town was known in
Hungarian as Taracujfalu.

When the Marmaros region was broken up after WW1, the
southern part was given to Romania, and the northern part
(including Novoselitsa) was given to Czechoslovakia. After WW2,
this Czechoslovakian part of Marmaros was taken by the USSR,
and now it is part of the Republic of Ukraine.

There is a full-page article about this Novoselitsa in the Marmaros
Yizkor Book, which has not as yet been translated as part of the
ongoing translation project:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/maramures/Maramures.html

Moshe Davis
Jerusalem


Re: Bardejov Slovakia-The End #hungary

Dan Rottenberg <d.rottenberg@...>
 

Dear Jacob Rosen,

Thanks for your note about Mr. Spira in Bardejov. My wife and I
visited him 30 years ago, and he was very helpful- took us to my
grandfather's birthplace in Luko, some 20 kilometers west of Bardejov.

Dan Rottenberg
Philadelphia PA

Dear All,
My late father in law David Apotheker (1908-1995) was
born in Bardejov.
Today I learnt >from a resident of Kosice that the last
Jew in Bardejov Mr. Shapiro passed away last month.
The Synagogue,the Beit Midrash and the Mikve are used
nowadays for storage but there are plans to make the
Beit Midrash into a museum.
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem
Dan Rottenberg
1530 Chestnut St.
Room 330
Philadelphia PA 19102
Office phone: 215-569-4822
Fax: 215-569-4822
Reply to: d.rottenberg@verizon.net
Website: http://mysite.verizon.net/d.rottenberg


Interested in Genealogy Discovery trip to Kosice area #hungary

Ted Semegran
 

Subject: Interested in Genealogy Discovery trip to Kosice area
From: "Ted Semegran" <ted_semegran@hotmail.com>

My wife and I are interested in doing a genealogy discovery trip to the
Slovokia (Kosice area) followed by a visit to Ukraine (Dubno/Rovno) in late
spring/early summer 2006. If anyone had visited these areas and has any
suggestions as to places to see/persons that might be helpful in the region,
I would be more than grateful. My great grandfather/grandmother on my
mothers side came >from Kosice/Lemesany area in Slovakia (then Hungary) and
grandparents on my father's side came >from Dubno/village of Semegrani in the
Ukraine.

Ted Semegran
Searching for Semegran, Corak, Sonnenschein, Krausz, Grosz


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Bardejov Slovakia-The End #hungary

Dan Rottenberg <d.rottenberg@...>
 

Dear Jacob Rosen,

Thanks for your note about Mr. Spira in Bardejov. My wife and I
visited him 30 years ago, and he was very helpful- took us to my
grandfather's birthplace in Luko, some 20 kilometers west of Bardejov.

Dan Rottenberg
Philadelphia PA

Dear All,
My late father in law David Apotheker (1908-1995) was
born in Bardejov.
Today I learnt >from a resident of Kosice that the last
Jew in Bardejov Mr. Shapiro passed away last month.
The Synagogue,the Beit Midrash and the Mikve are used
nowadays for storage but there are plans to make the
Beit Midrash into a museum.
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem
Dan Rottenberg
1530 Chestnut St.
Room 330
Philadelphia PA 19102
Office phone: 215-569-4822
Fax: 215-569-4822
Reply to: d.rottenberg@verizon.net
Website: http://mysite.verizon.net/d.rottenberg


Hungary SIG #Hungary Interested in Genealogy Discovery trip to Kosice area #hungary

Ted Semegran
 

Subject: Interested in Genealogy Discovery trip to Kosice area
From: "Ted Semegran" <ted_semegran@hotmail.com>

My wife and I are interested in doing a genealogy discovery trip to the
Slovokia (Kosice area) followed by a visit to Ukraine (Dubno/Rovno) in late
spring/early summer 2006. If anyone had visited these areas and has any
suggestions as to places to see/persons that might be helpful in the region,
I would be more than grateful. My great grandfather/grandmother on my
mothers side came >from Kosice/Lemesany area in Slovakia (then Hungary) and
grandparents on my father's side came >from Dubno/village of Semegrani in the
Ukraine.

Ted Semegran
Searching for Semegran, Corak, Sonnenschein, Krausz, Grosz


Re: German Reparations #hungary

Henry Lifton <henlif@...>
 

Dear John

Thanks for that, but yes, the city was Amberg. He was in the hospital there
and I have a card with his picture on it >from the Central Organization of
Jewish Invalids that says so.

He was getting reparations. That is not the issue. I only want to find out
where his parents were from

Henry Lifton
Boca Raton, FL



Subject: German Reparations
From: John J Kovacs <j.kovacs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 05:15:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 4

Henry Lifton is looking for the organization that sent
checks to his uncle.

The name and address of the organization you are
looking for is as follows:

Landesentschadigugsamt
Prinz Ludwig Strasse 5
80333 Munchen
Germany

Your uncle was probably in the city of Bamberg,
Germany(not Amberg)and most likely in a Displaced
Persons (DP)Camp, (your reference to a Yidische
Gemeinde),which in all likelihood was administered by
UNRRA (United Nations). If your uncle came to this
country before the 1950s he applied for reparations
from the US and probably had to provide a history of
his incarceration, statements by witnesses, etc.,
besides the few forms you mention, to be eligible for
reparations.
John (Janos) Kovacs


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: German Reparations #hungary

Henry Lifton <henlif@...>
 

Dear John

Thanks for that, but yes, the city was Amberg. He was in the hospital there
and I have a card with his picture on it >from the Central Organization of
Jewish Invalids that says so.

He was getting reparations. That is not the issue. I only want to find out
where his parents were from

Henry Lifton
Boca Raton, FL



Subject: German Reparations
From: John J Kovacs <j.kovacs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 05:15:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 4

Henry Lifton is looking for the organization that sent
checks to his uncle.

The name and address of the organization you are
looking for is as follows:

Landesentschadigugsamt
Prinz Ludwig Strasse 5
80333 Munchen
Germany

Your uncle was probably in the city of Bamberg,
Germany(not Amberg)and most likely in a Displaced
Persons (DP)Camp, (your reference to a Yidische
Gemeinde),which in all likelihood was administered by
UNRRA (United Nations). If your uncle came to this
country before the 1950s he applied for reparations
from the US and probably had to provide a history of
his incarceration, statements by witnesses, etc.,
besides the few forms you mention, to be eligible for
reparations.
John (Janos) Kovacs


Re: Nyirmada Cemetery #hungary

Katz, Itzik <Itzik.Katz@...>
 

Dear Siggers,
I am looking for lists, photos or any other information concerning the
people buried in Nyirmada (aka Kismada or Nagymada or Mada) in Szabolcs
County. I believe my great-great-grandparents are burried there.

I have consulted with IAJGS website and found that Lynn Golumbic has
photos
from this cemetery and I also found her Email address there. I have
written
to Lynn several times but hav never gotten a reply. Does anyone know
how I
can contact with Lynn to obtain these photos? Does anyone hae these
photos
and can forward them to me?

Please reply privately.

Thank you,

Itzik Katz
Israel


Re: The Origins of Katz Surname #hungary

Katz, Itzik <Itzik.Katz@...>
 

Dear Siggers,

My cousin had taken the FTDNA Y37 test and the results that came back
matched several people, one of which is an exact match with us. The DNA
matching indicate that we are all relatives and that our common ancestor
(depending on the level of DNA matchin) lived between 200 to 600 years
ago.
The ancestors of these people are known to have come >from Ukraine and
Poland. My family is the only one >from Hungary.

All the people we match with (exact or partial match) are known to be
Kohanim as the Katz surname would suggest. However, only one of them
carry
the surname Katz. All the others have different surnames like Kahan,
Bloom,
Kaplansky, Feinberg, etc. Most of these people have indications that
thier
surname was changed >from Kahan or Kohen but not >from Katz.

I always believed that Katz was one of those ancient surnames since it
has a
meaning in Hebrew and that it was carried over the generations.

Is it possible that Katz is a germanized name to comply wuth the 1786
Empiral naming Order?

I have seen in other places that Katz was also used as a title and not
as a
surname. For examply, Rabby Shimshon Eliezer Katz Gottdiener who was a
"Av-Beit Din (head of Jewish court)" in Tiszalok (in the book "Shem
Ha'Gdolim" by Pinhas Zelig Schwartz) who is known to have been a Kohen.
Gottdiener is a greminazed name of the Hebrew surnmae Ovadia (server of
God).

Thank you,
Itzik Katz
Israel


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Nyirmada Cemetery #hungary

Katz, Itzik <Itzik.Katz@...>
 

Dear Siggers,
I am looking for lists, photos or any other information concerning the
people buried in Nyirmada (aka Kismada or Nagymada or Mada) in Szabolcs
County. I believe my great-great-grandparents are burried there.

I have consulted with IAJGS website and found that Lynn Golumbic has
photos
from this cemetery and I also found her Email address there. I have
written
to Lynn several times but hav never gotten a reply. Does anyone know
how I
can contact with Lynn to obtain these photos? Does anyone hae these
photos
and can forward them to me?

Please reply privately.

Thank you,

Itzik Katz
Israel


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: The Origins of Katz Surname #hungary

Katz, Itzik <Itzik.Katz@...>
 

Dear Siggers,

My cousin had taken the FTDNA Y37 test and the results that came back
matched several people, one of which is an exact match with us. The DNA
matching indicate that we are all relatives and that our common ancestor
(depending on the level of DNA matchin) lived between 200 to 600 years
ago.
The ancestors of these people are known to have come >from Ukraine and
Poland. My family is the only one >from Hungary.

All the people we match with (exact or partial match) are known to be
Kohanim as the Katz surname would suggest. However, only one of them
carry
the surname Katz. All the others have different surnames like Kahan,
Bloom,
Kaplansky, Feinberg, etc. Most of these people have indications that
thier
surname was changed >from Kahan or Kohen but not >from Katz.

I always believed that Katz was one of those ancient surnames since it
has a
meaning in Hebrew and that it was carried over the generations.

Is it possible that Katz is a germanized name to comply wuth the 1786
Empiral naming Order?

I have seen in other places that Katz was also used as a title and not
as a
surname. For examply, Rabby Shimshon Eliezer Katz Gottdiener who was a
"Av-Beit Din (head of Jewish court)" in Tiszalok (in the book "Shem
Ha'Gdolim" by Pinhas Zelig Schwartz) who is known to have been a Kohen.
Gottdiener is a greminazed name of the Hebrew surnmae Ovadia (server of
God).

Thank you,
Itzik Katz
Israel


Re: Some Basic Questions #hungary

Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
 

Dear Vivian,

You mention more records >from Nireghaza. You also say that the FHL list is
dated. Do you know of these other records >from Nireghaza are being/have
been filed and just not included in the list online, or are the the numbers
available a the FHC?

Pat

12:58 AM On 10/28/2005, vkahn@kmort.com wrote:

Dear Peter,

You've asked some questions for which others who have recently begun
researching Hungarian Jewish roots may also need answers.

Hungary began civil registration in October 1895. Before then, vital
records were maintained by the Jewish community and turned over to the
authorities. One copy of these records was kept in the place where the
records were generated and the other was usually sent to the county
(megye). As a result, even though some of the local records were
destroyed during WWII, others that were kept in county, regional, or
national archives may have been preserved. The Mormon Family History
Library (FHL) has filmed many records >from pre-World War I Hungary, which
included areas that are in present-day Hungary as well as places that are
now in Slovakia, Romania, Ukraine, Yugoslavia, and other modern nations
surrounding Hungary. The first step in researching your roots is to find
out in which current nation your ancestors lived.

Check the FHL on-line catalogue to see if they have filmed Jewish records
from the places where your relatives lived. You can search a somewhat
dated version of the FHL collection of Jewish records at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/FHLC/
You should also search the surnames and places that you are researching in
the JewishGen Hungary Database (JHD)
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary >.

If you have family >from areas that are in present-day Hungary or Slovakia,
you may be able to obtain records by writing to the Hungarian or Slovak
National Archives. Check the Hungarian SIG message archives and website
for current addresses. Your research will be more difficult if your
family came >from parts of pre-Trianon Hungary that are now in Romania or
the Ukraine. The FHL has microfilmed most of the 1848 Jewish Census
records that are held by the Hungarian National
Archives, but we continue to find records in regional archives
(Nyireghaza and Satorjaujhely, for example) and archives in Romania.
We know that there are other census and Jewish vital records in Romanian
and Ukrainian archives. JewishGen is continuing to try and obtain these
records and get permission to create indices that we can publish on-line.

In addition to searching the JewishGen Hungary Database (JHD), you should
send messages to the Hungarian SIG mailing list to find out if anyone is
researching your names and/or places or can suggest other resources. We
have more than 800 members in more than a dozen countries and many of them
are fluent in Hungarian. Make sure to use a meaningful subject line (e.g.
Searching KAHAN/Sziget) and include your place of residence with your full
name. This will help folks to identify resources
that are available close to where you live. Also, make sure to
turn off SPAM blockers to allow H-SIG members to reach you.

Please feel free to contact me off-line or, if your questions might be of
general interest, through the Hungarian SIG discussion group.

Happy hunting!

Vivian Kahn, Hungarian SIG Coordinator

Hello.

I'm a beginner and have some very basic questions (left unanswered by the
recommended and other Internet resources).

Is it correct that a State Registrar was introduced in Hungary in the
1890s replacing those held by the various religious communities?
If yes, what has become of the Jewish registries ?

What are the means to consult the registries in modern Hungary ?

What happened to the registries in the districts lost by Hungary at
Trianon? In case they were left to the post-Trianon local
administrations, how can they be consulted in Romania and Slovakia ?

Many thanks for your help.
Peter Stern


Hungary SIG #Hungary re:Some Basic Questions #hungary

Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
 

Dear Vivian,

You mention more records >from Nireghaza. You also say that the FHL list is
dated. Do you know of these other records >from Nireghaza are being/have
been filed and just not included in the list online, or are the the numbers
available a the FHC?

Pat

12:58 AM On 10/28/2005, vkahn@kmort.com wrote:

Dear Peter,

You've asked some questions for which others who have recently begun
researching Hungarian Jewish roots may also need answers.

Hungary began civil registration in October 1895. Before then, vital
records were maintained by the Jewish community and turned over to the
authorities. One copy of these records was kept in the place where the
records were generated and the other was usually sent to the county
(megye). As a result, even though some of the local records were
destroyed during WWII, others that were kept in county, regional, or
national archives may have been preserved. The Mormon Family History
Library (FHL) has filmed many records >from pre-World War I Hungary, which
included areas that are in present-day Hungary as well as places that are
now in Slovakia, Romania, Ukraine, Yugoslavia, and other modern nations
surrounding Hungary. The first step in researching your roots is to find
out in which current nation your ancestors lived.

Check the FHL on-line catalogue to see if they have filmed Jewish records
from the places where your relatives lived. You can search a somewhat
dated version of the FHL collection of Jewish records at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/FHLC/
You should also search the surnames and places that you are researching in
the JewishGen Hungary Database (JHD)
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary >.

If you have family >from areas that are in present-day Hungary or Slovakia,
you may be able to obtain records by writing to the Hungarian or Slovak
National Archives. Check the Hungarian SIG message archives and website
for current addresses. Your research will be more difficult if your
family came >from parts of pre-Trianon Hungary that are now in Romania or
the Ukraine. The FHL has microfilmed most of the 1848 Jewish Census
records that are held by the Hungarian National
Archives, but we continue to find records in regional archives
(Nyireghaza and Satorjaujhely, for example) and archives in Romania.
We know that there are other census and Jewish vital records in Romanian
and Ukrainian archives. JewishGen is continuing to try and obtain these
records and get permission to create indices that we can publish on-line.

In addition to searching the JewishGen Hungary Database (JHD), you should
send messages to the Hungarian SIG mailing list to find out if anyone is
researching your names and/or places or can suggest other resources. We
have more than 800 members in more than a dozen countries and many of them
are fluent in Hungarian. Make sure to use a meaningful subject line (e.g.
Searching KAHAN/Sziget) and include your place of residence with your full
name. This will help folks to identify resources
that are available close to where you live. Also, make sure to
turn off SPAM blockers to allow H-SIG members to reach you.

Please feel free to contact me off-line or, if your questions might be of
general interest, through the Hungarian SIG discussion group.

Happy hunting!

Vivian Kahn, Hungarian SIG Coordinator

Hello.

I'm a beginner and have some very basic questions (left unanswered by the
recommended and other Internet resources).

Is it correct that a State Registrar was introduced in Hungary in the
1890s replacing those held by the various religious communities?
If yes, what has become of the Jewish registries ?

What are the means to consult the registries in modern Hungary ?

What happened to the registries in the districts lost by Hungary at
Trianon? In case they were left to the post-Trianon local
administrations, how can they be consulted in Romania and Slovakia ?

Many thanks for your help.
Peter Stern