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Identifying Relationships #general

Julius S Cohen 1
 

10 September 2005

Dear Geners,

Does someone know where I can get a table or chart that will help me identify
the relationship of cousins? For example, how can I tell if someone is a
"first Cousin" or a "First Cousin, once Removed".

Thanks in advance.

Julius Cohen
Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

MODERATOR NOTE: There is a relationship chart at
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/related.txt .


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Identifying Relationships #general

Julius S Cohen 1
 

10 September 2005

Dear Geners,

Does someone know where I can get a table or chart that will help me identify
the relationship of cousins? For example, how can I tell if someone is a
"first Cousin" or a "First Cousin, once Removed".

Thanks in advance.

Julius Cohen
Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

MODERATOR NOTE: There is a relationship chart at
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/related.txt .


Need Help Locating Marriage-David RAKOFF & Anna MENDELSON 12/18/1921-NY #general

sacredsisters3@aol.com <sacredsisters3@...>
 

Hello To All

I need help in loacting marriage record for Davd RAKOFF & Anna
MENDELSON my great-grandparents. According to all records I have
gathered including a new document I have uncovered called a ketubah
they were married in 12/18/1921 in Brooklyn, new york.

I only have a 1940 marriage record for them. So I am asking if they had
the ketubah marriage contract would they have also filed one for the
county they lived in. I am seeking all help in locating that record.
The names on the ketubah are a bit distorted. The last
names(surnames)are not spelled as I know them to be. But the first
names are right on the money, including the marriage date of 1921 which
is listed on my great-grandmother's petition papers.

According to the petition papers my great-grandmother came to america
under the name Elke/Elka Mendelson in 1911 and that name is also on the
ketubah. I always known my grandmother and my mother to call her Anna.
I am seeking help >from anyone who may help, who might have access to
the grooms index for Brooklyn, New York and maybe do a search for me. I
would be forever greatfull.

My great-grandfather David Rakoff was born in 1884 & Anna/Elke was born
in 1889. Both came >from russia. Their are also many variations to the
name rakoff.

Rakoff/Rockoff/Rackoff/Racoff/Rockov...

Also in the case of my great-grandmother she tended to lie about her
age on most documents. On her death record she was listed in her 70's
and born in 1901, when she was really in her 90's and born in 1889. So
In 1921, She would be about 32 and he would be 37.
So any and all help is appreciated and advice is good to.

Sarah Greenberg
sacredsisters3@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need Help Locating Marriage-David RAKOFF & Anna MENDELSON 12/18/1921-NY #general

sacredsisters3@aol.com <sacredsisters3@...>
 

Hello To All

I need help in loacting marriage record for Davd RAKOFF & Anna
MENDELSON my great-grandparents. According to all records I have
gathered including a new document I have uncovered called a ketubah
they were married in 12/18/1921 in Brooklyn, new york.

I only have a 1940 marriage record for them. So I am asking if they had
the ketubah marriage contract would they have also filed one for the
county they lived in. I am seeking all help in locating that record.
The names on the ketubah are a bit distorted. The last
names(surnames)are not spelled as I know them to be. But the first
names are right on the money, including the marriage date of 1921 which
is listed on my great-grandmother's petition papers.

According to the petition papers my great-grandmother came to america
under the name Elke/Elka Mendelson in 1911 and that name is also on the
ketubah. I always known my grandmother and my mother to call her Anna.
I am seeking help >from anyone who may help, who might have access to
the grooms index for Brooklyn, New York and maybe do a search for me. I
would be forever greatfull.

My great-grandfather David Rakoff was born in 1884 & Anna/Elke was born
in 1889. Both came >from russia. Their are also many variations to the
name rakoff.

Rakoff/Rockoff/Rackoff/Racoff/Rockov...

Also in the case of my great-grandmother she tended to lie about her
age on most documents. On her death record she was listed in her 70's
and born in 1901, when she was really in her 90's and born in 1889. So
In 1921, She would be about 32 and he would be 37.
So any and all help is appreciated and advice is good to.

Sarah Greenberg
sacredsisters3@aol.com


JGS Oregon: Monthly Meetings resume September 19th #general

Ronald D. Doctor <rondoctor@...>
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Oregon

Notice of September Monthly Meeting

Date: Monday, September 19, 2005
Time: 7:30 pm to 9:30 pm
Place: Neveh Shalom Congregation
2900 Peaceful Lane
Portland, Oregon
(Beaverton-Hillsdale Highway/North on Dosch Rd/Right on Peaceful Lane)

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Oregon (JGSO) invites you, your
family, and friends to our September monthly meeting.

A Curator Looks at Genealogy
Two important local Jewish groups share their mutual interests.
presented by Anne LeVant Prahl

Anne LeVant Prahl is the collections curator at the Oregon Jewish Museum
where she has been involved since 1993. She holds a Masters Degree in
Museum Studies >from the University of Texas, Austin and an undergraduate
degree in Linguistic Anthropology >from Oberlin College. She has worked
with small museum collections across the country. Ms. Prahl received her
archival training with the National Park Service’s Museum Branch in
Boston where she processed the holdings of Americans who lived in New
England >from 1650 to 1950. At the Oregon Jewish Museum, Ms. Prahl
manages the archival and material culture collections of the museum,
ensuring that they are available to researchers. She also oversees the
Oral History Project that documents the lives of Oregonians in their own
words.

Ms. Prahl will speak on the connections between museums’ material
culture collections and genealogical research. Material culture has long
been overlooked by genealogists as a source rich in information on
family members. She will discuss how curators can be of use to
researchers and how researchers can help to fill in the gaps in museum
collection documentation.

This event is *free* to JGSO members. Contributions at the door of $2 door
are requested >from non-members to help us defray the meeting cost.
Contribution can be deducted >from new membership if you join that evening.

To be placed on JGS of Oregon's e-mail distribution list, send an e-mail
message to rondoctor@earthlink.net. Once you are on the list, you will
receive periodic messages concerning Jewish genealogy. Your name and
e-mail address will not be distributed outside of JGS of Oregon.

For more information about JGSO and its activities, visit the JGSO web
site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~orjgs, or call Sandra Shapiro at 503-694-5646.

The JGSO is affiliated with the International Association of Jewish
Genealogical Societies.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS Oregon: Monthly Meetings resume September 19th #general

Ronald D. Doctor <rondoctor@...>
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Oregon

Notice of September Monthly Meeting

Date: Monday, September 19, 2005
Time: 7:30 pm to 9:30 pm
Place: Neveh Shalom Congregation
2900 Peaceful Lane
Portland, Oregon
(Beaverton-Hillsdale Highway/North on Dosch Rd/Right on Peaceful Lane)

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Oregon (JGSO) invites you, your
family, and friends to our September monthly meeting.

A Curator Looks at Genealogy
Two important local Jewish groups share their mutual interests.
presented by Anne LeVant Prahl

Anne LeVant Prahl is the collections curator at the Oregon Jewish Museum
where she has been involved since 1993. She holds a Masters Degree in
Museum Studies >from the University of Texas, Austin and an undergraduate
degree in Linguistic Anthropology >from Oberlin College. She has worked
with small museum collections across the country. Ms. Prahl received her
archival training with the National Park Service’s Museum Branch in
Boston where she processed the holdings of Americans who lived in New
England >from 1650 to 1950. At the Oregon Jewish Museum, Ms. Prahl
manages the archival and material culture collections of the museum,
ensuring that they are available to researchers. She also oversees the
Oral History Project that documents the lives of Oregonians in their own
words.

Ms. Prahl will speak on the connections between museums’ material
culture collections and genealogical research. Material culture has long
been overlooked by genealogists as a source rich in information on
family members. She will discuss how curators can be of use to
researchers and how researchers can help to fill in the gaps in museum
collection documentation.

This event is *free* to JGSO members. Contributions at the door of $2 door
are requested >from non-members to help us defray the meeting cost.
Contribution can be deducted >from new membership if you join that evening.

To be placed on JGS of Oregon's e-mail distribution list, send an e-mail
message to rondoctor@earthlink.net. Once you are on the list, you will
receive periodic messages concerning Jewish genealogy. Your name and
e-mail address will not be distributed outside of JGS of Oregon.

For more information about JGSO and its activities, visit the JGSO web
site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~orjgs, or call Sandra Shapiro at 503-694-5646.

The JGSO is affiliated with the International Association of Jewish
Genealogical Societies.


My Familyinc.com offer to assist genealogy societies in Hurricane Katrina ravaged areas #general

jan meisels allen <janmallen@...>
 

At the Federation of Genealogy Societies (FGS) conference this week,
MyFamilyInc.com which owns among other entities, My Family, Ancestry.com,
genealogy.com, Family Tree Make, rootsweb, etc. vice president Mike
Sherrod, announced in addition to monetary contributions to help after
Hurricane Katrina, they were prepared help protect and help to restore the
genealogical communities located in the south ravaged by Hurricane
Katrina. Their offer is to any society or library with genealogy areas that
have been affected by Katrina. If anyone has such a need please contact me
at jan@IAJGS.org and I can put you in touch with Mike Sherrod. I am
purposely not posting his private telephone number or e-mail in keeping with
the JewishGen rules.

Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS Board Member


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen My Familyinc.com offer to assist genealogy societies in Hurricane Katrina ravaged areas #general

jan meisels allen <janmallen@...>
 

At the Federation of Genealogy Societies (FGS) conference this week,
MyFamilyInc.com which owns among other entities, My Family, Ancestry.com,
genealogy.com, Family Tree Make, rootsweb, etc. vice president Mike
Sherrod, announced in addition to monetary contributions to help after
Hurricane Katrina, they were prepared help protect and help to restore the
genealogical communities located in the south ravaged by Hurricane
Katrina. Their offer is to any society or library with genealogy areas that
have been affected by Katrina. If anyone has such a need please contact me
at jan@IAJGS.org and I can put you in touch with Mike Sherrod. I am
purposely not posting his private telephone number or e-mail in keeping with
the JewishGen rules.

Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS Board Member


Re: Viguel de Sus or Felso Viso #hungary

Moshe & Esther Davis <davis@...>
 

(1) Barsana (Barczanfalva): In Sefer Marmaros, this town is called
in Yiddish "Birsanif", with listed town name variations in Hungarian
"Barcanfalva" and in Romanian "Barsana", located in the area of
Dragomirest, approximately 20 km southeast of Szighet. (In JGSS
4749 N latitude, 2404 E longitute). The article about this town in
Sefer Marmaros is about 1.5 pages.

(2) Viguel de Sus or Felso Viso: In Sefer Marmaros, this town is
called in Yiddish "Ober Visheve" or "Ober Wisho", in Hungarian
"Felsoviso", and in Romanian "Viseul de Sus", located
approximately 60 km southeast of Szighet. (In JGSS 4743 N
latitude, 2426 E longitute). The article about this town in Sefer
Marmaros is a major article, over 34 pages with many pictures and
illustrations.

Mr Yehuda Kahane is a native of Ober Visheve. He is the
president of the Israeli branch of the Society of Marmaros Survivors
and director of Beis Marmaros in Tel Aviv (i.e., the publisher of
Sefer Marmaros).

Both towns are presently located in Romania. Note that all of the
Hungarian and Romanian town names mentioned contain diacritics.

Hope this helps,

Moshe Davis

I believe the place you are referring to was known as Oiber Vishiva in
Yiddish.

All the best,

Miriam Klein
Brooklyn, NY

Subject: Viguel de Sus or Felso Viso
From: "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com>
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 22:54:15 -0400
X-Message-Number: 2

Hi,

I have an uncle that married in Barsana (Barczanfalva)
Romania in 1884. The records record his place of birth as
Viguel de Sus or Felso Viso.

Does anybody have any idea where this is and what it is
called today?

Thanks!
Moishe Miller
moishe@langsam.com
Brooklyn, NY

Moderator: Subject line has been changed to reflect the content of
the message. Please make sure to include a relevant subject line in
all messages.


Re: 1828 Hungarian Property Tax Census database #hungary

Robert Neu
 

Eric,
Congratulations! What's next on the agenda?
Robert

--- "Eric M. Bloch" <bloch@wi.rr.com> wrote:

Great news! The 1828 Hungarian Property Tax Census
database project has
been completed, with close to 30,000 entries.
Thanks very much to all
those volunteers who have made this possible. Not
only did they give of
their time to transcribe and enter the data into the
database, but those
who rented the microfilms and shlepped to their
local FHLs to read them
did so at their own expense. All deserve big kudos
and our gratitude
for their hard work.

Happy Hunting!
Eric M. Bloch, coordinator

Moderator: This is a monumental accomplishment!
Thanks to Eric and to all of the volunteers who
worked on this project.


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE:Viguel de Sus or Felso Viso #hungary

Moshe & Esther Davis <davis@...>
 

(1) Barsana (Barczanfalva): In Sefer Marmaros, this town is called
in Yiddish "Birsanif", with listed town name variations in Hungarian
"Barcanfalva" and in Romanian "Barsana", located in the area of
Dragomirest, approximately 20 km southeast of Szighet. (In JGSS
4749 N latitude, 2404 E longitute). The article about this town in
Sefer Marmaros is about 1.5 pages.

(2) Viguel de Sus or Felso Viso: In Sefer Marmaros, this town is
called in Yiddish "Ober Visheve" or "Ober Wisho", in Hungarian
"Felsoviso", and in Romanian "Viseul de Sus", located
approximately 60 km southeast of Szighet. (In JGSS 4743 N
latitude, 2426 E longitute). The article about this town in Sefer
Marmaros is a major article, over 34 pages with many pictures and
illustrations.

Mr Yehuda Kahane is a native of Ober Visheve. He is the
president of the Israeli branch of the Society of Marmaros Survivors
and director of Beis Marmaros in Tel Aviv (i.e., the publisher of
Sefer Marmaros).

Both towns are presently located in Romania. Note that all of the
Hungarian and Romanian town names mentioned contain diacritics.

Hope this helps,

Moshe Davis

I believe the place you are referring to was known as Oiber Vishiva in
Yiddish.

All the best,

Miriam Klein
Brooklyn, NY

Subject: Viguel de Sus or Felso Viso
From: "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com>
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 22:54:15 -0400
X-Message-Number: 2

Hi,

I have an uncle that married in Barsana (Barczanfalva)
Romania in 1884. The records record his place of birth as
Viguel de Sus or Felso Viso.

Does anybody have any idea where this is and what it is
called today?

Thanks!
Moishe Miller
moishe@langsam.com
Brooklyn, NY

Moderator: Subject line has been changed to reflect the content of
the message. Please make sure to include a relevant subject line in
all messages.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: 1828 Hungarian Property Tax Census database #hungary

Robert Neu
 

Eric,
Congratulations! What's next on the agenda?
Robert

--- "Eric M. Bloch" <bloch@wi.rr.com> wrote:

Great news! The 1828 Hungarian Property Tax Census
database project has
been completed, with close to 30,000 entries.
Thanks very much to all
those volunteers who have made this possible. Not
only did they give of
their time to transcribe and enter the data into the
database, but those
who rented the microfilms and shlepped to their
local FHLs to read them
did so at their own expense. All deserve big kudos
and our gratitude
for their hard work.

Happy Hunting!
Eric M. Bloch, coordinator

Moderator: This is a monumental accomplishment!
Thanks to Eric and to all of the volunteers who
worked on this project.


Hotel proprietors IN RSA C. 1915 #southafrica

Miriam Margolyes <75342.3217@...>
 

This was cited in a ROOTSWEB List & names some
hotel owners, many of who are clearly Jewish.
The magazine ON THE ROAD (abt 1915), for SA commercial travellers,
had many advertisements.
The list was culled >from these by Geroffrey Chew & Tombi Peck.

Hope this helps someone.

Best-Miriam Margolyes

__________________________________

Imperial Hotel, Aliwal North: Harry CHANDLER
Grange Hotel, Balfour: D. E. McKENNA
Phoenix Hotel, Barberton: Mr and Mrs WORTHINGTON
Royal Hotel, Barkly East: H. ALLSCHWANG (proprietor), Chas. SEDGE
(manager, "formerly of the Commercial Hotel, Middelburg, Cape")]
Masonic Hotel, Beaufort West: C. DAVISON
Robertson's Hotel, Bedford, Cape: E. J. ROBERTSON "proprietress"
Selborne Hotel, Bethal: O. S. PURCHASE; ROBERTS brothers [>from June
1915]; D. S. DE WET [>from January 1916 with O.S. PURCHASE as manager]
Royal Hotel, Bethulie: A. W. EDELSTEIN
Polley's Hotel Cecil, Bloemfontein: [proprietor's name not given]
Brandfort Hotel, Brandfort: A. D. HOFFMANN
Brandfort and Bultfontein Post Motor Service [taxi service]: H. GOLDSMITH
Central Hotel, Britstown: I. K. KALSON ("late of Goldfields Hotel, Sabie,
and Prieska Hotel, Prieska")
White House Hotel and Hotel Metropole, Cape Town: Spencer N. STONE
Central Hotel, Cathcart: J. S. LEVY
Commercial Hotel, Ceres: N. BERMAN
Masonic Hotel, Colesberg: C. E. MOSS
Phoenix Hotel, Colesberg: James WINNING
Railway Hotel, Cookhouse: S. J. GOBEY ("late Victoria Hotel, Cradock")
Central Hotel, Dordrecht: W. HARTLEY ("late of the Royal Hotel,
Queenstown, and Beach Hotel, East London")
Royal Hotel, Durban: Harold BENSON, manager ("late manager Durban Club")
Twine's Hotel, Durban: H. TWINE
Waverley Hotel, Durban: Frank WINFIELD ("late manager Royal Hotel
Durban")
Deal's Hotel, East London: G. G. DEAL
Royal Hotel, Elliot: Mrs GOLDBERG
Phoenix Hotel, Ermelo: Mr and Mrs GINSBERG
Provincial Hotel, Eshowe: Mr and Mrs WATKINS
Plough Hotel, Estcourt: J. H. CLARK ("late Sergeant Natal Police")
Commercial Hotel, Ficksburg: F. KOSTER
Ficksburg Hotel, Ficksburg: J. JANKIELSOHN ("late proprietor Grand Hotel,
Bloemfontein")
Frankfort Hotel, Frankfort, OFS: Harry JACOBSON
Graaff Reinet Hotel, Graaff Reinet: W. STEINMANN
Carlton Hotel, Grahamstown: Frank FISK
Woods' Hotel, Grahamstown: Gilbert V. WEBB
Smith's Commercial Hotel, Greytown: Mr and Mrs Alfred SMITH
Allam's Private Hotel, Hanover: J. N. ALLAM
Royal Hotel, Hanover, Cape: A. FREEMAN
J. Emden's Hotel, Hoetjes Bay: J. EMDEN
Feitelberg's Motor Service, Hopetown [taxi service]: ? FEITELBERG
[Motor car service}, Hopetown: W. J. DU TOIT
Royal Hotel, Humansdorp: P. SCHULTZ
Masonic Hotel, Jansenville: C. J. FLETCHER
Grand Hotel, Kimberley: Ed. WEINBERG (proprietor), B. WEINBERG (manager)
Queens Hotel, Kimberley: Joseph CASEY ("late proprietor White House Hotel
Cape Town")
Tivoli Hotel, Klerksdorp: A. W. CHARLTON
Grand Hotel, Kroonstad: S. M. WRIGHT
Hotel Selborne, Kroonstad: H. NEUBAUER
Grand Hotel, Ladybrand: R. M. BENSON; L. JACOBSON [in later issue]
Crown Hotel, Ladysmith: C. J. JONES
Royal Hotel, Ladysmith: William FLANAGAN
Laingsburg Hotel, Laingsburg: J. ADAMSTEIN (proprietor), David SOLOMON
(manager)
Commercial Hotel, Malmesbury: George COETZEE ("late of Moorreesburg")
Criterion Hotel, Malmesbury: F. WRIGHT; A. JACOBS [>from August 1915]
Union Hotel, Maquassie: T. P. GLOVER
Commercial Hotel, Middelburg, Cape: Harry ALLSCHWANG
Imperial Hotel, Middelburg, Transvaal: W. ROSENTHAL
Central Hotel, Molteno: Mr and Mrs J. C. SMITH
The Baths, Montagu: [manager's name not given]
Grand Hotel, Mossel Bay: [proprietor's name not given]
Park Hotel, Mossel Bay: MATFIELD brothers (proprietors), A. W. BURCHER
(manager)
Standard Hotel, Mossel Bay: J. J. DU TOIT
King's Hotel, Newcastle, Natal: H. E. GARBETT
McBeath's Commercial Hotel, Newcastle, Natal: Mr and Mrs J. H. McBEATH
Imperial Hotel, Noupoort: W. OUTRAM
Central Hotel, Paarl: H. PURCELL
Parys Hotel, Parys: B. VAN DER HOVEN
Hout Kraal - Philipstown Motor Service, Philipstown [taxis]: H. DU PREEZ
Camden Hotel, Pietermaritzburg: Mrs M. E. MURPHY
King Edward Mansions, Port Elizabeth: [proprietor's name not given]
Border Hotel, Prieska: Otto ROMER
Prieska Hotel, Prieska: ? BURT [address for telegrams]
Masonic Hotel, Richmond, Cape: T. G. MAKEPEACE
Richmond Hotel, Richmond, Cape: Robbie WATKINS ("late Algoa House Hotel,
Port Elizabeth")
Grand Hotel, Rustenburg: Mr and Mrs M. PLATNER
Transvaal Hotel, Rustenburg: Mr and Mrs J. BROWN
Brown's Hotel, Senekal: L. BROWN
Royal Hotel, Somerset East: T. BARFORD
Masonic Hotel, Standerton: V. SIMON
Standerton Hotel, Standerton: J. MICHEL
Hotel Imperial, Sterkstroom: N. BESSEL
Premier Hotel, Sterkstroom: A. R. THOMPSON
Commercial Hotel, Swellendam: Ralph S. STAFFORD
Royal Hotel, Swellendam: P. HORWITZ
Tsomo Hotel, Tsomo: D. B. PARR ("Daddy")
Royal Hotel, Uniondale, Cape: E. WALSH, "proprietress"
Upington Hotel, Upington: H. SALKINDER ("late of Central Hotel,
Koffiefontein")
Transvaal Hotel, Volksrust: A. E. MULLER ("late of the Plough Hotel,
Estcourt")
Volksrust Hotel, Volksrust: P. W. HEUTALL
Central Hotel, Vryburg: S. SASSIN
Grand Hotel, Vryburg: J. and S. SMOLLAN
Wepener Hotel, Wepener: C. S. LUMLEY; W. SHAER [>from May 1915]
The Wilderness Resort, Wilderness: H. P. COX
Phoenix Hotel, Willowmore: Tom KINSELLA
Carlton Hotel, Witbank: James ANDERSON ("late Tivoli Hotel and Union Club,
Johannesburg")
Makwassie Hotel, Wolmaransstad: A. W. CHARLTON
Alexandra Hotel, Worcester: M. PESSACH
Commercial Hotel, Worcester: A. VOLKS
Masonic Hotel, Worcester: Jim CARROLL
Marico Hotel, Zeerust: R. FLINK


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Hotel proprietors IN RSA C. 1915 #southafrica

Miriam Margolyes <75342.3217@...>
 

This was cited in a ROOTSWEB List & names some
hotel owners, many of who are clearly Jewish.
The magazine ON THE ROAD (abt 1915), for SA commercial travellers,
had many advertisements.
The list was culled >from these by Geroffrey Chew & Tombi Peck.

Hope this helps someone.

Best-Miriam Margolyes

__________________________________

Imperial Hotel, Aliwal North: Harry CHANDLER
Grange Hotel, Balfour: D. E. McKENNA
Phoenix Hotel, Barberton: Mr and Mrs WORTHINGTON
Royal Hotel, Barkly East: H. ALLSCHWANG (proprietor), Chas. SEDGE
(manager, "formerly of the Commercial Hotel, Middelburg, Cape")]
Masonic Hotel, Beaufort West: C. DAVISON
Robertson's Hotel, Bedford, Cape: E. J. ROBERTSON "proprietress"
Selborne Hotel, Bethal: O. S. PURCHASE; ROBERTS brothers [>from June
1915]; D. S. DE WET [>from January 1916 with O.S. PURCHASE as manager]
Royal Hotel, Bethulie: A. W. EDELSTEIN
Polley's Hotel Cecil, Bloemfontein: [proprietor's name not given]
Brandfort Hotel, Brandfort: A. D. HOFFMANN
Brandfort and Bultfontein Post Motor Service [taxi service]: H. GOLDSMITH
Central Hotel, Britstown: I. K. KALSON ("late of Goldfields Hotel, Sabie,
and Prieska Hotel, Prieska")
White House Hotel and Hotel Metropole, Cape Town: Spencer N. STONE
Central Hotel, Cathcart: J. S. LEVY
Commercial Hotel, Ceres: N. BERMAN
Masonic Hotel, Colesberg: C. E. MOSS
Phoenix Hotel, Colesberg: James WINNING
Railway Hotel, Cookhouse: S. J. GOBEY ("late Victoria Hotel, Cradock")
Central Hotel, Dordrecht: W. HARTLEY ("late of the Royal Hotel,
Queenstown, and Beach Hotel, East London")
Royal Hotel, Durban: Harold BENSON, manager ("late manager Durban Club")
Twine's Hotel, Durban: H. TWINE
Waverley Hotel, Durban: Frank WINFIELD ("late manager Royal Hotel
Durban")
Deal's Hotel, East London: G. G. DEAL
Royal Hotel, Elliot: Mrs GOLDBERG
Phoenix Hotel, Ermelo: Mr and Mrs GINSBERG
Provincial Hotel, Eshowe: Mr and Mrs WATKINS
Plough Hotel, Estcourt: J. H. CLARK ("late Sergeant Natal Police")
Commercial Hotel, Ficksburg: F. KOSTER
Ficksburg Hotel, Ficksburg: J. JANKIELSOHN ("late proprietor Grand Hotel,
Bloemfontein")
Frankfort Hotel, Frankfort, OFS: Harry JACOBSON
Graaff Reinet Hotel, Graaff Reinet: W. STEINMANN
Carlton Hotel, Grahamstown: Frank FISK
Woods' Hotel, Grahamstown: Gilbert V. WEBB
Smith's Commercial Hotel, Greytown: Mr and Mrs Alfred SMITH
Allam's Private Hotel, Hanover: J. N. ALLAM
Royal Hotel, Hanover, Cape: A. FREEMAN
J. Emden's Hotel, Hoetjes Bay: J. EMDEN
Feitelberg's Motor Service, Hopetown [taxi service]: ? FEITELBERG
[Motor car service}, Hopetown: W. J. DU TOIT
Royal Hotel, Humansdorp: P. SCHULTZ
Masonic Hotel, Jansenville: C. J. FLETCHER
Grand Hotel, Kimberley: Ed. WEINBERG (proprietor), B. WEINBERG (manager)
Queens Hotel, Kimberley: Joseph CASEY ("late proprietor White House Hotel
Cape Town")
Tivoli Hotel, Klerksdorp: A. W. CHARLTON
Grand Hotel, Kroonstad: S. M. WRIGHT
Hotel Selborne, Kroonstad: H. NEUBAUER
Grand Hotel, Ladybrand: R. M. BENSON; L. JACOBSON [in later issue]
Crown Hotel, Ladysmith: C. J. JONES
Royal Hotel, Ladysmith: William FLANAGAN
Laingsburg Hotel, Laingsburg: J. ADAMSTEIN (proprietor), David SOLOMON
(manager)
Commercial Hotel, Malmesbury: George COETZEE ("late of Moorreesburg")
Criterion Hotel, Malmesbury: F. WRIGHT; A. JACOBS [>from August 1915]
Union Hotel, Maquassie: T. P. GLOVER
Commercial Hotel, Middelburg, Cape: Harry ALLSCHWANG
Imperial Hotel, Middelburg, Transvaal: W. ROSENTHAL
Central Hotel, Molteno: Mr and Mrs J. C. SMITH
The Baths, Montagu: [manager's name not given]
Grand Hotel, Mossel Bay: [proprietor's name not given]
Park Hotel, Mossel Bay: MATFIELD brothers (proprietors), A. W. BURCHER
(manager)
Standard Hotel, Mossel Bay: J. J. DU TOIT
King's Hotel, Newcastle, Natal: H. E. GARBETT
McBeath's Commercial Hotel, Newcastle, Natal: Mr and Mrs J. H. McBEATH
Imperial Hotel, Noupoort: W. OUTRAM
Central Hotel, Paarl: H. PURCELL
Parys Hotel, Parys: B. VAN DER HOVEN
Hout Kraal - Philipstown Motor Service, Philipstown [taxis]: H. DU PREEZ
Camden Hotel, Pietermaritzburg: Mrs M. E. MURPHY
King Edward Mansions, Port Elizabeth: [proprietor's name not given]
Border Hotel, Prieska: Otto ROMER
Prieska Hotel, Prieska: ? BURT [address for telegrams]
Masonic Hotel, Richmond, Cape: T. G. MAKEPEACE
Richmond Hotel, Richmond, Cape: Robbie WATKINS ("late Algoa House Hotel,
Port Elizabeth")
Grand Hotel, Rustenburg: Mr and Mrs M. PLATNER
Transvaal Hotel, Rustenburg: Mr and Mrs J. BROWN
Brown's Hotel, Senekal: L. BROWN
Royal Hotel, Somerset East: T. BARFORD
Masonic Hotel, Standerton: V. SIMON
Standerton Hotel, Standerton: J. MICHEL
Hotel Imperial, Sterkstroom: N. BESSEL
Premier Hotel, Sterkstroom: A. R. THOMPSON
Commercial Hotel, Swellendam: Ralph S. STAFFORD
Royal Hotel, Swellendam: P. HORWITZ
Tsomo Hotel, Tsomo: D. B. PARR ("Daddy")
Royal Hotel, Uniondale, Cape: E. WALSH, "proprietress"
Upington Hotel, Upington: H. SALKINDER ("late of Central Hotel,
Koffiefontein")
Transvaal Hotel, Volksrust: A. E. MULLER ("late of the Plough Hotel,
Estcourt")
Volksrust Hotel, Volksrust: P. W. HEUTALL
Central Hotel, Vryburg: S. SASSIN
Grand Hotel, Vryburg: J. and S. SMOLLAN
Wepener Hotel, Wepener: C. S. LUMLEY; W. SHAER [>from May 1915]
The Wilderness Resort, Wilderness: H. P. COX
Phoenix Hotel, Willowmore: Tom KINSELLA
Carlton Hotel, Witbank: James ANDERSON ("late Tivoli Hotel and Union Club,
Johannesburg")
Makwassie Hotel, Wolmaransstad: A. W. CHARLTON
Alexandra Hotel, Worcester: M. PESSACH
Commercial Hotel, Worcester: A. VOLKS
Masonic Hotel, Worcester: Jim CARROLL
Marico Hotel, Zeerust: R. FLINK


Re: Marc CHAGALL's family tree #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

<eatwelbwel@aol.com> wrote in message

Does anyone know if CHAGALL's genealogy has been published and where I
might find it? The reason I am asking is because a newly reconnected
with cousin shared a story detailing our distant ancestry with his
family.
Maybe try the Musée national Message Biblique Marc Chagall, Nice
http://www.musee-chagall.fr/

This is the Marc Chagall Museum in Belarus
http://www.chagall.vitebsk.by/enindex.html

See also Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Chagall


--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


Re: NYC Accommodation Advise Needed for 2006 IAJGS conference #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

People as close to NYC as Pittsburgh, and my location, Rochester, NY, will
need to consider the relative costs carefully. It might be least costly and
most convenient to fly in and stay at the conference hotel, unless you will
want to drive to some of the cemeteries or other locations that are not
convenient for a tourist to reach by bus or subway.

The cost and inconvenience of commuting to the conference >from a less costly
hotel (which will almost certainly be some distance >from the conference
location) may be very significant for some, especially since these
conferences have always had evening sessions running to 8 or 9 PM.

I've not checked to see what prices and availability are now, but about 10
years ago I stayed at a hotel in the Meadowlands Convention Center (in New
Jersey) and found very convenient commuter bus service to Manhattan, and
significantly lower hotel costs with free parking. There was a city like
cluster of hotels and other services, including restaurants, basically
surrounded by wetlands. But for that matter you could stay as far out as
New Brunswick or Princeton, NJ, and commute by train in 60 minutes or less
with similar advantages.

--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

"Robert Zavos" <rzavos@hotmail.com> wrote

I was wondering if any New Yorkers could give some advise on
accommodations for next years IAJGS conference. Although the conference
hotel rate is terrific compared to rack rates and every discount Website
I have checked, it is still quite pricey [http://www.jgsny2006.org/hotel.cfm]
and I have a feeling that taxes, parking, and food will bring conference
costs to very high levels for many non-commuting attendees. Are there any
other areas in the NYC area with clean, safe, more reasonably priced
accomodations with parking that could be reached by convenient public
transportation.


Orthodox Rabbi ordination procedure an authority - info needed #general

Howie Axelrod <highwind1@...>
 

My GGF Getzel (George) Zupnik was an Orthodox Rabbi in Scranton, PA
for some 22 years until his death in 1931 (per newspaper obit, living
relatives, etc.).
He came to the US in 1905 and oddly enough in the 1910 census
indicated his occupation as "Junk dealer - rubber, etc.". I can not
say why, but in in the 1920 census he listed his occupation as
"Rabbi"! . He came >from the area then known as Austria / Hungary,
which later became Hungary, I believe.

I am assuming (correct me if I am wrong) that as an Orthodox Rabbi, he
needed to be ordained. Where would such records be kept in the US or
Hungary? Is Ordination a requirement (circa 1910-1930) to practice?

Is the a specific council or organization that does this?

All assistance appreciated.

Howie


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Marc CHAGALL's family tree #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

<eatwelbwel@aol.com> wrote in message

Does anyone know if CHAGALL's genealogy has been published and where I
might find it? The reason I am asking is because a newly reconnected
with cousin shared a story detailing our distant ancestry with his
family.
Maybe try the Musée national Message Biblique Marc Chagall, Nice
http://www.musee-chagall.fr/

This is the Marc Chagall Museum in Belarus
http://www.chagall.vitebsk.by/enindex.html

See also Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Chagall


--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: NYC Accommodation Advise Needed for 2006 IAJGS conference #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

People as close to NYC as Pittsburgh, and my location, Rochester, NY, will
need to consider the relative costs carefully. It might be least costly and
most convenient to fly in and stay at the conference hotel, unless you will
want to drive to some of the cemeteries or other locations that are not
convenient for a tourist to reach by bus or subway.

The cost and inconvenience of commuting to the conference >from a less costly
hotel (which will almost certainly be some distance >from the conference
location) may be very significant for some, especially since these
conferences have always had evening sessions running to 8 or 9 PM.

I've not checked to see what prices and availability are now, but about 10
years ago I stayed at a hotel in the Meadowlands Convention Center (in New
Jersey) and found very convenient commuter bus service to Manhattan, and
significantly lower hotel costs with free parking. There was a city like
cluster of hotels and other services, including restaurants, basically
surrounded by wetlands. But for that matter you could stay as far out as
New Brunswick or Princeton, NJ, and commute by train in 60 minutes or less
with similar advantages.

--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

"Robert Zavos" <rzavos@hotmail.com> wrote

I was wondering if any New Yorkers could give some advise on
accommodations for next years IAJGS conference. Although the conference
hotel rate is terrific compared to rack rates and every discount Website
I have checked, it is still quite pricey [http://www.jgsny2006.org/hotel.cfm]
and I have a feeling that taxes, parking, and food will bring conference
costs to very high levels for many non-commuting attendees. Are there any
other areas in the NYC area with clean, safe, more reasonably priced
accomodations with parking that could be reached by convenient public
transportation.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Orthodox Rabbi ordination procedure an authority - info needed #general

Howie Axelrod <highwind1@...>
 

My GGF Getzel (George) Zupnik was an Orthodox Rabbi in Scranton, PA
for some 22 years until his death in 1931 (per newspaper obit, living
relatives, etc.).
He came to the US in 1905 and oddly enough in the 1910 census
indicated his occupation as "Junk dealer - rubber, etc.". I can not
say why, but in in the 1920 census he listed his occupation as
"Rabbi"! . He came >from the area then known as Austria / Hungary,
which later became Hungary, I believe.

I am assuming (correct me if I am wrong) that as an Orthodox Rabbi, he
needed to be ordained. Where would such records be kept in the US or
Hungary? Is Ordination a requirement (circa 1910-1930) to practice?

Is the a specific council or organization that does this?

All assistance appreciated.

Howie