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CZ Torah highlighted in Dallas Film Festival #austria-czech

Vitdoc@...
 

The Fine family of Dallas who worked with the Cz Torah Network
www.czechtorah.org have informed me that Bob Curry's documentary "Dancing
With Torah" has just been notified that it was accepted, by the Dallas Video
Festival.

It will be screened on Sunday, August 7th at Noon, at the Dallas Theatre
Center in the Video Cabaret.

The main characters of Bob's film, are an antique Torah Scroll from
Horovice, Czechoslovakia that survived the Nazis, The Dallas Survivor
Community (many of them who are featured prominently in the film), and a
young boy (Zachary Fine Albert) who set out to raise the funds to bring
the survivor scroll to Dallas.

Much of the Narration is done brilliantly by Rabbi Kenneth D. Roseman.
Who acted as an advisor for the project.

The video, will take you on a journey >from Dallas, to London, to
Horovice, and then back to the Torah's new home The Dallas Holocaust
Museum.

The survivors messages about hope and survival are immeasurable, the
Torah's message is everlasting.

It is a touching, and uplifting documentary.
Hope all those in Texas might get to see it.
Susan Boyer
LA CA


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech CZ Torah highlighted in Dallas Film Festival #austria-czech

Vitdoc@...
 

The Fine family of Dallas who worked with the Cz Torah Network
www.czechtorah.org have informed me that Bob Curry's documentary "Dancing
With Torah" has just been notified that it was accepted, by the Dallas Video
Festival.

It will be screened on Sunday, August 7th at Noon, at the Dallas Theatre
Center in the Video Cabaret.

The main characters of Bob's film, are an antique Torah Scroll from
Horovice, Czechoslovakia that survived the Nazis, The Dallas Survivor
Community (many of them who are featured prominently in the film), and a
young boy (Zachary Fine Albert) who set out to raise the funds to bring
the survivor scroll to Dallas.

Much of the Narration is done brilliantly by Rabbi Kenneth D. Roseman.
Who acted as an advisor for the project.

The video, will take you on a journey >from Dallas, to London, to
Horovice, and then back to the Torah's new home The Dallas Holocaust
Museum.

The survivors messages about hope and survival are immeasurable, the
Torah's message is everlasting.

It is a touching, and uplifting documentary.
Hope all those in Texas might get to see it.
Susan Boyer
LA CA


Ellis Island Database/Elusive Hometown of the WEINSTEIN Family #general

Lilli Sprintz <spri0037@...>
 

Thank you all for replying to my question about manifest markings.

I've learned alot >from the information you sent, and am beginning to
read through all the extensive information >from the JewishGen website
info files about this. Very interesting.

Lilli Sprintz

MODERATOR NOTE: The InfoFile is: : Guide to Interpreting Passenger List
Annotations" by Marian L. Smith, located at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/Manifests/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ellis Island Database/Elusive Hometown of the WEINSTEIN Family #general

Lilli Sprintz <spri0037@...>
 

Thank you all for replying to my question about manifest markings.

I've learned alot >from the information you sent, and am beginning to
read through all the extensive information >from the JewishGen website
info files about this. Very interesting.

Lilli Sprintz

MODERATOR NOTE: The InfoFile is: : Guide to Interpreting Passenger List
Annotations" by Marian L. Smith, located at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/Manifests/


Philadelphia Public Library resources #general

Monica Talmor
 

I will be in Philadelphia over the weekend and I see >from the website that
the Philadelphia Public Library is open on Sunday. Other than city
directories and newspapers, are there any other resources at the central
branch which may shedd light on a family living there in 1900 (i. e. any
kind of civil records available)?

Monica Talmor
Hamden, CT


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Philadelphia Public Library resources #general

Monica Talmor
 

I will be in Philadelphia over the weekend and I see >from the website that
the Philadelphia Public Library is open on Sunday. Other than city
directories and newspapers, are there any other resources at the central
branch which may shedd light on a family living there in 1900 (i. e. any
kind of civil records available)?

Monica Talmor
Hamden, CT


Re: re surnames #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:35:03 UTC, BGHHeinrich@... (Barbara Heinrich)
opined:

My family name was GIBIANSKI and my ancestors came >from Giby- a town in
Giberne Suwalki Poland. However, family legend says that the family
This probably means "Suwalki Gubernia".

originated >from the town of Gibeon near Jerusalem. ( It is now an Arab
city). There is a tribe of Gibeon that were listed as "wily woodsmen" in
the Bible. My father always said that Gibian meant pine forest. Could there
be any relationship between the two?
"City" is probably overenthusiastic. The village is called "Jib", and
represents Biblical Giv'on.

The answer to the question is unqualified No. The tribe in question (which
we are told were condemned to be "hewers of wood and drawers of water") did
not wander off to the shores of the Baltic Sea, there to pursue their menial
labors as Polaks. But, given that the sun is said to have remained
stationary in the skies above Giv'on during battle, anything is possible.

Also, there is another Jewish GIBIAN branch in the United States, but this
group came >from the Czech republic. Is it possible that many years ago ( we
have Gibianski names back to 1720 in Poland) they were one family. Would the
family have migrated >from Czech to Poland or the other way around?
People migrate; Jews certainly migrate. That doesn't imply that they were
all one family, anymore than Jewish families named Berliner or Moskowsky (or
any other toponymic) are related.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: re surnames #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:35:03 UTC, BGHHeinrich@... (Barbara Heinrich)
opined:

My family name was GIBIANSKI and my ancestors came >from Giby- a town in
Giberne Suwalki Poland. However, family legend says that the family
This probably means "Suwalki Gubernia".

originated >from the town of Gibeon near Jerusalem. ( It is now an Arab
city). There is a tribe of Gibeon that were listed as "wily woodsmen" in
the Bible. My father always said that Gibian meant pine forest. Could there
be any relationship between the two?
"City" is probably overenthusiastic. The village is called "Jib", and
represents Biblical Giv'on.

The answer to the question is unqualified No. The tribe in question (which
we are told were condemned to be "hewers of wood and drawers of water") did
not wander off to the shores of the Baltic Sea, there to pursue their menial
labors as Polaks. But, given that the sun is said to have remained
stationary in the skies above Giv'on during battle, anything is possible.

Also, there is another Jewish GIBIAN branch in the United States, but this
group came >from the Czech republic. Is it possible that many years ago ( we
have Gibianski names back to 1720 in Poland) they were one family. Would the
family have migrated >from Czech to Poland or the other way around?
People migrate; Jews certainly migrate. That doesn't imply that they were
all one family, anymore than Jewish families named Berliner or Moskowsky (or
any other toponymic) are related.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


Re: re surnames #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article < 20050707135023.1925041A5@... >,
Barbara Heinrich < BGHHeinrich@... > wrote:

My family name was GIBIANSKI and my ancestors came >from Giby- a town in
Giberne Suwalki Poland. However, family legend says that the family
originated >from the town of Gibeon near Jerusalem. ( It is now an Arab
city). There is a tribe of Gibeon that were listed as "wily woodsmen" in
the Bible. My father always said that Gibian meant pine forest. Could there
be any relationship between the two?
The legend is just that - a legend. Very far-fetched, because there's
probably something like a 50 generation gap between when your ancestors
left Gibeon and when they acquired a surname. The name Gibianski
very likely comes >from the name of the town Giby, and means ">from Giby".

Also, there is another Jewish GIBIAN branch in the United States, but this
group came >from the Czech republic. Is it possible that many years ago ( we
have Gibianski names back to 1720 in Poland) they were one family. Would the
family have migrated >from Czech to Poland or the other way around?
Migration could go both ways. However, if the name is >from the Polish
town of Giby, it's more likely that they were living somewhere near that
town when they acquired the name (not right in it, because if you're
in Giby the phrase ">from Giby" doesn't distinguish you >from your
neighbours; but close enough that people would know what Giby was).

Robert Israel
israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: re surnames #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article < 20050707135023.1925041A5@... >,
Barbara Heinrich < BGHHeinrich@... > wrote:

My family name was GIBIANSKI and my ancestors came >from Giby- a town in
Giberne Suwalki Poland. However, family legend says that the family
originated >from the town of Gibeon near Jerusalem. ( It is now an Arab
city). There is a tribe of Gibeon that were listed as "wily woodsmen" in
the Bible. My father always said that Gibian meant pine forest. Could there
be any relationship between the two?
The legend is just that - a legend. Very far-fetched, because there's
probably something like a 50 generation gap between when your ancestors
left Gibeon and when they acquired a surname. The name Gibianski
very likely comes >from the name of the town Giby, and means ">from Giby".

Also, there is another Jewish GIBIAN branch in the United States, but this
group came >from the Czech republic. Is it possible that many years ago ( we
have Gibianski names back to 1720 in Poland) they were one family. Would the
family have migrated >from Czech to Poland or the other way around?
Migration could go both ways. However, if the name is >from the Polish
town of Giby, it's more likely that they were living somewhere near that
town when they acquired the name (not right in it, because if you're
in Giby the phrase ">from Giby" doesn't distinguish you >from your
neighbours; but close enough that people would know what Giby was).

Robert Israel
israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada


Translation of 2 Records in Cyrillic #general

Howard Orenstein
 

Dear Friends,
I would like to get two records I just received >from PSA translated
into English.
Please provide all the names (except those of the witnesses), dates,
and addresses(if available). They can be found at the following web sites:

1) Birth of Estera Malka ORENSZTEJN (1886)

http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Psychology/HBO/A161.jpg

2) Wedding of Chersz Jankel KRYSZTAL & Ita Golda ORENSZTEJN (1894)

http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Psychology/HBO/A7.jpg

I really appreciate your help.
Thanks.

Howard ORENSTEIN
Westminster, MD
horenstein@...


Searching for ORENSTEIN, BLUM (BLOOM), HOLLAND, PIENIEK, OSTROWIAK

from Wyszkow, Serock, Poland


Re: Surnames #austria-czech

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

The short answer is 'Yes'. ;-)

Actually, if his parents were married civilly, he would be named with his
father's surname - usually.

If his parents were married religiously but not civilly, he would be named
with his mother's surname - usually.

This is for civil records. What he called himself and what his neighbors
called him was different. And what he called himself after he left Europe
was some third thing.

However, sometimes men were registered with other surnames to avoid the
draft or for some other reason. Usually, among the Jews he would have been
known as 'Ovsei ben David' or whatever his and his father's forenames were,
with probably no surname. And in the US, he could have used any surname he
chose.

You need to look at the records >from the town he came >from (if you know it)
with an open mind. Check his first name and his father's first name and
whatever else you know. He might be Maurer or Bergstein or something else.
He might have been registered with his brother as one person (eldest son is
exempt >from draft, so only admit you have one son) or as somebody else's son
or not at all.

Actually, it seems amazing that anybody finds any record of their ancestors
in Russia, but amazingly they often do. Just be happy that there are
records to check, as my mother's mother's family come >from an area which has
no civil bmd records at all.

Good luck,

Sally Bruckheimer
Chatham, NJ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Translation of 2 Records in Cyrillic #general

Howard Orenstein
 

Dear Friends,
I would like to get two records I just received >from PSA translated
into English.
Please provide all the names (except those of the witnesses), dates,
and addresses(if available). They can be found at the following web sites:

1) Birth of Estera Malka ORENSZTEJN (1886)

http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Psychology/HBO/A161.jpg

2) Wedding of Chersz Jankel KRYSZTAL & Ita Golda ORENSZTEJN (1894)

http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Psychology/HBO/A7.jpg

I really appreciate your help.
Thanks.

Howard ORENSTEIN
Westminster, MD
horenstein@...


Searching for ORENSTEIN, BLUM (BLOOM), HOLLAND, PIENIEK, OSTROWIAK

from Wyszkow, Serock, Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Surnames #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

The short answer is 'Yes'. ;-)

Actually, if his parents were married civilly, he would be named with his
father's surname - usually.

If his parents were married religiously but not civilly, he would be named
with his mother's surname - usually.

This is for civil records. What he called himself and what his neighbors
called him was different. And what he called himself after he left Europe
was some third thing.

However, sometimes men were registered with other surnames to avoid the
draft or for some other reason. Usually, among the Jews he would have been
known as 'Ovsei ben David' or whatever his and his father's forenames were,
with probably no surname. And in the US, he could have used any surname he
chose.

You need to look at the records >from the town he came >from (if you know it)
with an open mind. Check his first name and his father's first name and
whatever else you know. He might be Maurer or Bergstein or something else.
He might have been registered with his brother as one person (eldest son is
exempt >from draft, so only admit you have one son) or as somebody else's son
or not at all.

Actually, it seems amazing that anybody finds any record of their ancestors
in Russia, but amazingly they often do. Just be happy that there are
records to check, as my mother's mother's family come >from an area which has
no civil bmd records at all.

Good luck,

Sally Bruckheimer
Chatham, NJ


VM6433: Translation help, please -- Yiddish to English #general

Debbie Skolnik
 

I have a postcard on the Viewmate site in Yiddish that
I would like to have translated. It is VM6433, and
can be found at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6433

Many thanks in advance for assistance.

Debbie Cohen Skolnik

Searching:

LANDY, LANDE, LONDIN -- Bialystok-Chicago (Tilly Landy)
GARBARSH, GARBAR, GERBER -- Ostrow - Chicago (Jacob Gerber)
SOLUTUSZKYN -- ??Jatyn (on Ellis Island Records)-Brooklyn, NY
Peshe (Bessie) Solutuszkyn Cohen
KISSIN -- Kiev-Brooklyn, NY became Barney or Barnet Cohen at some point

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen VM6433: Translation help, please -- Yiddish to English #general

Debbie Skolnik
 

I have a postcard on the Viewmate site in Yiddish that
I would like to have translated. It is VM6433, and
can be found at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6433

Many thanks in advance for assistance.

Debbie Cohen Skolnik

Searching:

LANDY, LANDE, LONDIN -- Bialystok-Chicago (Tilly Landy)
GARBARSH, GARBAR, GERBER -- Ostrow - Chicago (Jacob Gerber)
SOLUTUSZKYN -- ??Jatyn (on Ellis Island Records)-Brooklyn, NY
Peshe (Bessie) Solutuszkyn Cohen
KISSIN -- Kiev-Brooklyn, NY became Barney or Barnet Cohen at some point

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Re: Lodz to France #lodz #poland

Joe Ross <joeross1220@...>
 

To TE:

This is not unusual. My mother's family is originally >from Lodz and a
number relatives came to France just after WWI (Many still live there).My
grandparents came to Paris in the mid 1920s and by 1927 moved to the Moselle
Deaprtment where other relatives were already established.

If you review the Klarsfeld lists, you will see quite a few people >from
Lodz and trhe surrounding towns.

Joe Ross

KNOP, CHAJMOWICZ, ENGEL,LEBOWICZ, LUBOCHINSKI >from Lodz


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Re: Lodz to France #lodz #poland

Joe Ross <joeross1220@...>
 

To TE:

This is not unusual. My mother's family is originally >from Lodz and a
number relatives came to France just after WWI (Many still live there).My
grandparents came to Paris in the mid 1920s and by 1927 moved to the Moselle
Deaprtment where other relatives were already established.

If you review the Klarsfeld lists, you will see quite a few people >from
Lodz and trhe surrounding towns.

Joe Ross

KNOP, CHAJMOWICZ, ENGEL,LEBOWICZ, LUBOCHINSKI >from Lodz


Re Jewish surnames - correction to a message #general

HPOLLINS@...
 

In my message just now I wrote:


< One possible inference >from this is that Jews could decide to take on
whichever Jewish names they wished. >

This should of course have read '...whichever GERMAN names they wished.'

Many apologies

Harold Pollins


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re Jewish surnames - correction to a message #general

HPOLLINS@...
 

In my message just now I wrote:


< One possible inference >from this is that Jews could decide to take on
whichever Jewish names they wished. >

This should of course have read '...whichever GERMAN names they wished.'

Many apologies

Harold Pollins