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Re: Question On Becoming A Citizen in 1920s Canada #canada

Janette Silverman
 

Hi Jeri:
The other information that doesn't fit your narrative is that person's nationality as U.S. when applying for Canadian citizenship. That person would have had to been in the U.S. for 5 years to gain U.S. citizenship. That means, if he arrived in Canada in 1920, and say he left Canada immediately upon receiving U.S. citizenship, he would have been in the U.S. from at least 1915.
Janette Silverman
Phoenx, AZ and Salt Lake City, UT


Re: Origin of Latvian Jews #latvia

Michael Sharp
 

Sephardi Jews reached the Poland-Lithuania Commonwealth by two routes:

1) flight from Spain to the Ottoman Empire and then migration through the Balkans to Poland
2) converso settlement in the Netherlands and then trading to the Baltic ports

The printing industry in Poland was to a large extent established by Sephardi Jews and some towns such as Zamosc, were when established as shtetls by the local noble, largely settled by Sephardim, valued for their commercial expertise and trading contacts
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Michael Sharp
Manchester UK
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Transcript please, German #germany

Reuven Stern
 

Dear fellow gersigers,
I will appreciate transcripts of these two documents
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89358
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89359
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Reuven Stern, Kfar Vradim Israel


ViewMate translation request - Polish #poland #translation

Kay Miller
 

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

 

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89345

 

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

 

Thank you very much.

Kay Miller




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ViewMate translation request - Polish #poland #translation

Kay Miller
 

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

 

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89346

 

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

 

Thank you very much.

 

Kay Miller

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Polish Translation #translation #poland

Kay Miller
 

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

 

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89347

 

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

 

Thank you very much.

 

Kay Miller




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ViewMate translation request - Polish #poland #translation

Alex Guri
 

Hello,

I've posted vital records in Polish for which I'd appreciate a translation.
They are on ViewMate at the following addresses:
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM88918
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89338
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89339
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89340

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much,
Alex Guri


Re: Gravestone photo from the Mount of Olives? #photographs #israel

Andy Monat
 

The page for that grave appears to be here: https://mountofolives.co.il/he/deceased_card/%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%97%D7%9D-%D7%A6%D7%91%D7%99-%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%98%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%91%D7%99%D7%A5-yeruham-zvi-rotkowitz/#gsc.tab=0

It has section this which I believe gives the text of the inscription:
על מצבתו/ה נכתב:
"פנ ירוחם צבי ב'ר ברוך מווילנא נ' כו' תשרי תרע תנצבה רוטקוביץ "
ירוחם צבי רוטקוביץ1
 
However, there doesn't seem to be a photo for that grave, unlike some others I've seen on their web site. (For example, http://mountofolives.co.il/he/deceased_card/%D7%99%D7%95%D7%9D-%D7%98%D7%95%D7%91-%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%90-%D7%9C%D7%90-%D7%99%D7%93%D7%95%D7%A2/#gsc.tab=0)

I have noticed that their web site has been flaky in the past, so that some times it wouldn't load. Now there's a little box with the letter "i" in a circle, and text which Google Translate says means that the site is under construction, and you can note errors etc using the comment form at the bottom of the page.


Abram ROSENBERG Piotrkow Poland #poland

Carin Miller
 



 

Begin forwarded message:

From: Carin Miller <carmil36@...>
Date: January 2, 2021 at 2:51:08 PM EST
To: main@...
Subject: Piotrkow Poland

I am trying to find information about my great grandfather, Abram Rosenberg, and his ancestors.  He and his family left Piotrkow between 1905 and 1907 and I have all of their immigration information. However, I was unable to find any information about  ancestors after multiple searches about Piotrokow on  both JRI and JG.
I understand that there is no current curator for Piotrokow and maybe that is part of the problem.
The only useful information I was able to get from was from a naturalization record was that Abram’s  wife’s maiden name was Ester Besso. They had 5 children David ( my grandfather), Pauline (Pesse), Samuel, Rose (Rachel), Frank and Howard.
Carin Miller
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GREENBAUM: Akron (Ohio), Pittsburgh (Pennsylvania), and Natafalva (Hungary) #hungary

Andy Monat
 

I'm looking for GREENBAUM relatives of my ancestor Maly GRUNBAUM/GREENBAUM who was from the village of Natafalva, Hungary, which is now Nacina Ves, Slovakia. If you are a descendant of people by that name from Natafalva I would be grateful to hear from you, especially the family I describe below.

There is one family which seems to have been of that surname from Natafalva who moved to Akron, Ohio. Here is a summary of some records for them:
1. The 14 September 1901 marriage of Alexander S GREENBAUM in Akron. He is age 25, born in Natafalva to Bernath GREENBAUM and Charlotte KANNER.
2. The 1912 marriage of a Harry GREENBAUM to Anna Gertrude WHITELAW in nearby Barberton, Ohio. Harry was born in Natafalva to Bernath GREENBAUM and Charlotte KANNER. There's a 1908 naturalization record for what seems to be the same person, in Pittsburgh, saying he was born 1 November 1886 in Natafalva, Hungary, emigrated from Hamburg on 21 October 1904, declared his intention on 2 June 1904 in Pittsburgh, and in 1908 resided in Duquesne, Pennsylvania.
3. The 16 July 1914 immigration of Bernat and Zseni GRINBAUM (husband and wife) at Ellis Island from Hamburg, along with Dora GREENBAUM (listed as a house maid), going to their son Alexander GRINBAUM in Akron, and admitted after being held for special inquiry.
4. The death of a Bernard GREENBAUM in Cleveland died 1926 age 74, arrived in the US 12 years earlier, son of Joseph GREENBAUM and the former Hanna MYRAVITS (?). Bernard and his parents all born in Natafalva. Informant name hard to read but lived in Akron.
5. The 1929 marriage of Dora GREENBAUM of Akron, daughter of Bernard GREENBAUM and Jeanette KANNER.
6. It appears that Jennie GREENBAUM died 23 August 1936, and that she and her husband Bernard were buried at Lansing cemetery in Cleveland.

Thank you,
Andy Monat
Massachusetts
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Translation Request - Hungarian #hungary #records

Alan Klein
 

I am requesting a Full translation of one entry in the Hungarian Civil Registration of Marriages -- 1922
It is on ViewMate at the following addresses:

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89364    (All Column Headings)
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89365    (Fulop-Friediger entry}

Please respond using the online ViewMate form.

Thank you so much,

Alan Klein


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Alan Klein


Gravestone photo from the Mount of Olives? #photographs #israel

Peter Cohen
 

Does anyone know how to get a photo of a grave on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem? The person in question, Yeruchim Tsvi Rotkowitz, died in 1910. A family member is known to have seen the grave in 1967 after the 6 day war.
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Peter Cohen
California


ViewMate translation request - Russian #translation #poland #russia

Greg Tuckman
 


JGSLI Virtual meeting on Wednesday January 13 at 7:00 PM Eastern #announcements #education #ukraine

Bonnie Birns
 

Hello all! The Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island is delighted to invite you to our bonus monthly meeting featuring our guest speaker, Gary Pokrassa the Data Acquisition Director of the JewishGen Ukraine Research Division.

 

JGSLI is extending the invitation to the broader genealogy community. We ask that you register in advance (see below). Please share with your friends!

Wednesday, January 13th, 7:00 PM, via Zoom

Speaker: Gary Pokrassa
Topic: Navigating Alex Krakovsky’s Wiki

Alex Krakovsky has been using Ukraine’s freedom of information laws to force archives throughout his country to allow him to scan records and post them online. Gary Pokrassa will describe how to navigate Alex’s wiki to locate town records. He will also describe the Ukraine Research Division's projects to capture and translate Alex’s scanned files on the JewishGen server -- including index files for Kiev, Zhitomir and Elizavetgrad.

There are two ways to join our meeting:

Register for our Zoom meeting: this will allow you to join in so you can chat with others before and after the meeting (this will be limited to the first 100 people to join)

 

When: Jan 13, 2020 07:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

Register in advance for this meeting:
https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZYuf-Chpj8qGdav6wBGKYgP4dU2haIn4cBW

After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the meeting.


OR

Our meeting will be livestreamed on our YouTube channel. Please visit http://bit.ly/JGSLIYT at the meeting start time and the meeting's video should be listed. No YouTube or other login is required, but if you are signed in you can ask questions in writing via the comment section under the video.

 

This webinar is free and open to the public.

 

I look forward to "seeing" you all then!

 

Bonnie Birns

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President, Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island
Jericho, Long Island, NY researcher #59766


ViewMate translation request - Polish #translation #poland

davidkmahler@...
 

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address:
 
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89375
 
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
 
Thank you very much.
 
David Mahler,
California


Viewmate translation Polish to English Rzezak document, can anyone help? #translation #poland

Sharon E Siegel
 

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=89394
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Sharon E. Siegel 
Port Jervis, NY USA


Who is the better option for DNA: siblings or father and son? #dna

Herbert Lazerow
 

    If the sought relatives are on the father's side, father and son are better because father will provide almost twice the dna sought than both sons, given that he is a generation closer to the source..
    If all three are available, having the three is better than having only two.  No son will have more of father's dna than father had, but if you have all three tested, you can probably reconstruct mother's dna from the three tests.  Any dna that either son has that does not match father's must have come from mother. Because we receive a RANDOM half of our dna from each parent, mother's dna is unlikely to be complete, but good enough for many purposes.
Bert
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Re: Who is the better option for DNA: siblings or father and son? #dna

Susan stone
 

Stephen...
My dad did a dna test and I'm always seeing ads for an even more extensive test.  Does he need to get tested again if I pay more?  Or do they use his same sample and just test more strands etc?  Is it worth it to get an even more extensive test?  Thank you,
Susan Stone
Evanston, IL


Re: "Ligia" - which town in Minsk Gubernia #names #belarus

Michele Lock
 

I'm resurrecting this discussion, because I have finally figured out the ancestral town for my Lavine family, who settled in Trenton, New Jersey.

I contacted two different persons on Ancestry.com, who had my great great grandfather Simon Lavine in their trees. One of those individuals recently forwarded to me a written family history that was put together back in the 1990s, which did have enough information to show my great great grandfather was related to the larger Lavine clan of Trenton. It stated that he was one of four brothers, three of whom came to the US; the parents' names on Simon Lavine's NJ death certificate are in line with the parents' names of the other two Lavine brothers. The family history also stated that the ancestral town was Lida, and referenced two ship passenger lists, that I was able to find on Ancestry and verify that the town shown was Lida.

I also took another look at the 1920 US census, where Simon Lavine said he was from Minsk, presumably referring to the gubernia. In the same district, the same enumerator Mrs. Koplowitz also interviewed a daughter and a niece of Simon Lavine, and those two women said they were born in Vilna gubernia, which is more in line with Lida being the town. 

Finally, combing through another tree on Ancestry that included my great great grandfather, and that had a lot of images attached to the tree, I found a nephew Isadore Lavine stating in his WW II draft card that he was born in Lida. 

So that is the end of the mystery. Thanks to all for motivating me to look further into this subject.

I must note - this is one of the minority of times that public trees on Ancestry have been helpful to me, rather than being cornucopias of misinformation.

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Michele Lock

Lock/Lak/Lok and Kalon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman/Lippman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lewin/Levin in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus


Question On Becoming A Citizen in 1920s Canada #canada

Teewinot
 

Happy New Year Cousins!

I'm trying to figure out a possible puzzle. I say possible, because I'm
not even sure I have the right people (same common name).

According to one index I found, it has my cousin (definitely him) taking
the Oath of Allegiance in Montreal in June 1923.

I found a person of the same name in the 1921 Canada census for
Montreal. Some of the information fits and makes sense (occupation and
marital status), some of it doesn't. It says this person's nationality
was "United States" and that he arrived in Canada in 1920. It was my
understanding that my cousin went right from Grodno Gubernia to Montreal
(date unknown), but I suppose that could be wrong.

How long did a person have to live in Canada before they could apply for
and obtain citizenship? I thought it was five years. This seems like
too short a time if these two people are one and the same.

Thank you,
Jeri Friedman
Port Saint Lucie, Florida

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