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Education of immigrants #lithuania

Olga Zabludoff <oz@...>
 

Can anyone venture an opinion based on the known experience of an ancestor?

A petite 14-year-old Jewish girl >from a small Lithuanian shtetl immigrates
to the United States in 1921. She doesn't speak a word of English--only
Yiddish. She lives with her uncle and aunt (both of whom immigrated much
earlier) in a town in Massachusetts. They enter the girl into the local
public school. How would the school handle the girl's education? Would they
place her in the grade where most 14-year-olds are, or in kindergarten,
elementary school or what?

Thanks for any insights.

Olga Zabludoff
Washington, DC


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Education of immigrants #lithuania

Olga Zabludoff <oz@...>
 

Can anyone venture an opinion based on the known experience of an ancestor?

A petite 14-year-old Jewish girl >from a small Lithuanian shtetl immigrates
to the United States in 1921. She doesn't speak a word of English--only
Yiddish. She lives with her uncle and aunt (both of whom immigrated much
earlier) in a town in Massachusetts. They enter the girl into the local
public school. How would the school handle the girl's education? Would they
place her in the grade where most 14-year-olds are, or in kindergarten,
elementary school or what?

Thanks for any insights.

Olga Zabludoff
Washington, DC


Re: Given name Surel #general

Irene K. <impromptus2002@...>
 

Answer to Walter Spector
"Has anyone heard of the female given name Surel."

Surel was rather popular name in Belarus and
Lithuania. It derives >from Hebrew *Sarah*; in Russian it
could be Sara/Sopha/Sonia; in Yiddish -
Sorka/Sare/Sora/Sura/Surele

Irene Kudish
Tel-Aviv


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Given name Surel #general

Irene K. <impromptus2002@...>
 

Answer to Walter Spector
"Has anyone heard of the female given name Surel."

Surel was rather popular name in Belarus and
Lithuania. It derives >from Hebrew *Sarah*; in Russian it
could be Sara/Sopha/Sonia; in Yiddish -
Sorka/Sare/Sora/Sura/Surele

Irene Kudish
Tel-Aviv


Re: Given Name Surel #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:49:40 UTC, educonser@comcast.net opined:

Hello Genners,

Has anyone heard of the female given name Surel. I have looked in the given
names database. I have not found a reference. If this name does exist, what
would be the English, Hebrew, and Yiddish translations?

Please reply privately

Walter Spector
Philadelphia
If the question was put publicly, I will answer it publicly, as it may
be of interest to others.

"Surel" is a Yiddish diminutive for "Sarah". The name is Hebrew, but
is used frequently in English as well.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.

MODERATOR NOTE: Since the answer may be helpfull to others, we post the reply,
although Walter asked for private replies.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Given Name Surel #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:49:40 UTC, educonser@comcast.net opined:

Hello Genners,

Has anyone heard of the female given name Surel. I have looked in the given
names database. I have not found a reference. If this name does exist, what
would be the English, Hebrew, and Yiddish translations?

Please reply privately

Walter Spector
Philadelphia
If the question was put publicly, I will answer it publicly, as it may
be of interest to others.

"Surel" is a Yiddish diminutive for "Sarah". The name is Hebrew, but
is used frequently in English as well.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.

MODERATOR NOTE: Since the answer may be helpfull to others, we post the reply,
although Walter asked for private replies.


Searching FREEMAN #general

loufine <loufine@...>
 

Hi Genners,

I am seeking any knowledge regarding
Susan FREEMAN (maiden name)
Father: David FREEMAN,
Mother: Sally Mendelson FREEMAN.
She would be approximately in her 70's or older. Please respond privately.

Louis A. Fine
Bellingham WA98225
USA
loufine@comcast.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching FREEMAN #general

loufine <loufine@...>
 

Hi Genners,

I am seeking any knowledge regarding
Susan FREEMAN (maiden name)
Father: David FREEMAN,
Mother: Sally Mendelson FREEMAN.
She would be approximately in her 70's or older. Please respond privately.

Louis A. Fine
Bellingham WA98225
USA
loufine@comcast.net


Which Ostrah-Thanks for the replies #general

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

Sorry for the delay-I want to thank all those who replied to my message
regarding Ostarh.

Wishing you all a Shavua Tov/ a gutte voche and a happy and healthy New
Year. Shana Tova umivurechet to one and all.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Which Ostrah-Thanks for the replies #general

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

Sorry for the delay-I want to thank all those who replied to my message
regarding Ostarh.

Wishing you all a Shavua Tov/ a gutte voche and a happy and healthy New
Year. Shana Tova umivurechet to one and all.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


Help Needed with Philadelphia arrivals for EISENSTEIN #general

Adam Eisen <aeisen@...>
 

I am having trouble finding the immigration record for my great grandfather
Wolf EISENSTEIN and was hoping someone might have some suggestions.

I have found the immigration record for Wolf's wife and children, who came
to Philadelphia in September 1896 on SS Belgenland >from Liverpool. The
family emigrated >from Manchester, where they had lived for ca. 10 years.

According to the story in my family, Wolf traveled to Philadelphia prior to
his wife and children because he was on his way to Minnesota, where his
mother was gravely ill. The story has been that when he arrived in
Philadelphia, he received notice that his mother had passed away and never
traveled on to Minnesota. Finding Philadelphia to his liking, he sent back
to Manchester for his wife and children to join him.

Using [a commercial site- named removed by Moderator], I have not been able to
locate Wolf's arrival record for Philadelphia (despite trying every spelling
variation of Eisenstein I can think of). I have even manually gone thru the
previous landings of the SS Belgenland for 1896, thinking he took the same
route.

Could Wolf have taken another route >from UK, if his final destination was
Minnesota? How did people get to Minnesota in 1896 anyway?

Are there other records for Philadelphia that are not included on [a commercial
site- named removed by Moderator] which might include his arrival?

Rgds,
Adam Eisen
Stockholm, Sweden

Researching EISENSTEIN, MALICKSON (to Philadelphia via England from
Bessarabia), SATTIN SATANOFSKY MOSKOVITZ (to NY and Philadelphia >from Kiev,
Ukraine), LUSTMAN, SCHWARTZ, ACKER (to Philadelphia and Atlantic City from
Botosani, Romania) RUBENSTEIN, SIMON (to Philadephia, Brooklyn, and South
Africa >from Courland, Latvia), ROONEY (to NY and Philadelphia >from Braila,
Romania), JANCOVICI (>from Braila, Romania).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help Needed with Philadelphia arrivals for EISENSTEIN #general

Adam Eisen <aeisen@...>
 

I am having trouble finding the immigration record for my great grandfather
Wolf EISENSTEIN and was hoping someone might have some suggestions.

I have found the immigration record for Wolf's wife and children, who came
to Philadelphia in September 1896 on SS Belgenland >from Liverpool. The
family emigrated >from Manchester, where they had lived for ca. 10 years.

According to the story in my family, Wolf traveled to Philadelphia prior to
his wife and children because he was on his way to Minnesota, where his
mother was gravely ill. The story has been that when he arrived in
Philadelphia, he received notice that his mother had passed away and never
traveled on to Minnesota. Finding Philadelphia to his liking, he sent back
to Manchester for his wife and children to join him.

Using [a commercial site- named removed by Moderator], I have not been able to
locate Wolf's arrival record for Philadelphia (despite trying every spelling
variation of Eisenstein I can think of). I have even manually gone thru the
previous landings of the SS Belgenland for 1896, thinking he took the same
route.

Could Wolf have taken another route >from UK, if his final destination was
Minnesota? How did people get to Minnesota in 1896 anyway?

Are there other records for Philadelphia that are not included on [a commercial
site- named removed by Moderator] which might include his arrival?

Rgds,
Adam Eisen
Stockholm, Sweden

Researching EISENSTEIN, MALICKSON (to Philadelphia via England from
Bessarabia), SATTIN SATANOFSKY MOSKOVITZ (to NY and Philadelphia >from Kiev,
Ukraine), LUSTMAN, SCHWARTZ, ACKER (to Philadelphia and Atlantic City from
Botosani, Romania) RUBENSTEIN, SIMON (to Philadephia, Brooklyn, and South
Africa >from Courland, Latvia), ROONEY (to NY and Philadelphia >from Braila,
Romania), JANCOVICI (>from Braila, Romania).


Russian Translation Requests #general

Janice Sellers <janice@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners,

I would appreciate help in translating some Russian on the backs of photos.
Files have been uploaded to:

http://publications.seismosoc.org/~janice/RussianGreenberg.jpg

The photo on the other side of this is a young woman.

http://publications.seismosoc.org/~janice/RussianKardash.jpg

The photo on the other side of this is a young man.

http://publications.seismosoc.org/~janice/RussianTolstoy.jpg

The other side of this is a commercial postcard with a picture of Tolstoy.

Please respond privately.

Thank you very much in advance for any help,

Janice Sellers
Oakland, California

Researching: GORODETSKY, SCHNEIDERMAN, COHEN, KARDISH; ORLOWSKY, LUBINSKY,
HEFT, RACIN/ROSSIN; BRAININ, BINDERMAN, JAFFE; NOVITSKY,
PERLMAN/PERLMUTTER, YELSKY, BLOOM


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Russian Translation Requests #general

Janice Sellers <janice@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners,

I would appreciate help in translating some Russian on the backs of photos.
Files have been uploaded to:

http://publications.seismosoc.org/~janice/RussianGreenberg.jpg

The photo on the other side of this is a young woman.

http://publications.seismosoc.org/~janice/RussianKardash.jpg

The photo on the other side of this is a young man.

http://publications.seismosoc.org/~janice/RussianTolstoy.jpg

The other side of this is a commercial postcard with a picture of Tolstoy.

Please respond privately.

Thank you very much in advance for any help,

Janice Sellers
Oakland, California

Researching: GORODETSKY, SCHNEIDERMAN, COHEN, KARDISH; ORLOWSKY, LUBINSKY,
HEFT, RACIN/ROSSIN; BRAININ, BINDERMAN, JAFFE; NOVITSKY,
PERLMAN/PERLMUTTER, YELSKY, BLOOM


Verifying and Americanized name for the Polish court. #general

datetree@...
 

I need to show that my grandmother, born Bronislawa Pamm STAWSKA, in
Krakow, on March 8, 1898, is the same person identified on her NYC death
certificate, as Betty STAWSKI, in order to establish inheritance for the
Polish court in Krakow.

This is a case of an Americanized name showing up on the death certificate.
How to verify it is same person?

The death certificate does not show her maiden name. She did not ( I
assume!) enter by Ellis island, but was one of the team sent to the United
states by Poland after WWII, in 1946, to establish the Polish consulate in
Chicago. I never found her on the Ellis island website.

The death certificate does give her SS# 131-24-8605.

Her date of birth is incorrectly listed as March 8, 1899. I have verified
the correct date of birth myself by going to the archives in Krakow, and
finding the original act in the birth registers.

I can email a copy of the death certificate.

She resided in the same apartment >from 1961 until her death in 1985.
Would her passport show this? Are copies available somewhere?

I would appreciate any one's help.

Thank you,

Benjamin Teitelbaum
El Prado, NM USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Verifying and Americanized name for the Polish court. #general

datetree@...
 

I need to show that my grandmother, born Bronislawa Pamm STAWSKA, in
Krakow, on March 8, 1898, is the same person identified on her NYC death
certificate, as Betty STAWSKI, in order to establish inheritance for the
Polish court in Krakow.

This is a case of an Americanized name showing up on the death certificate.
How to verify it is same person?

The death certificate does not show her maiden name. She did not ( I
assume!) enter by Ellis island, but was one of the team sent to the United
states by Poland after WWII, in 1946, to establish the Polish consulate in
Chicago. I never found her on the Ellis island website.

The death certificate does give her SS# 131-24-8605.

Her date of birth is incorrectly listed as March 8, 1899. I have verified
the correct date of birth myself by going to the archives in Krakow, and
finding the original act in the birth registers.

I can email a copy of the death certificate.

She resided in the same apartment >from 1961 until her death in 1985.
Would her passport show this? Are copies available somewhere?

I would appreciate any one's help.

Thank you,

Benjamin Teitelbaum
El Prado, NM USA


Re: Orthodox Rabbi ordination procedure an authority - info needed #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article < nei4i1lfhaig9gra5iq92e320t0cp8nnvb@4ax.com >,
Howie Axelrod < highwind1@comcast.net > wrote:

My GGF Getzel (George) Zupnik was an Orthodox Rabbi in Scranton, PA
for some 22 years until his death in 1931 (per newspaper obit, living
relatives, etc.).
He came to the US in 1905 and oddly enough in the 1910 census
indicated his occupation as "Junk dealer - rubber, etc.". I can not
say why, but in in the 1920 census he listed his occupation as
"Rabbi"! . He came >from the area then known as Austria / Hungary,
which later became Hungary, I believe.
Then as now, not every rabbi worked as a congregational rabbi.
Presumably in 1910 he was working as a junk dealer, and in 1920
he was working as a rabbi.

I am assuming (correct me if I am wrong) that as an Orthodox Rabbi, he
needed to be ordained. Where would such records be kept in the US or
Hungary? Is Ordination a requirement (circa 1910-1930) to practice?
Is the a specific council or organization that does this?
There was (and is) no centralization of authority in Orthodox Judaism.
Most likely he would have obtained his smicha (i.e. been ordained) at
whichever yeshiva he attended in Europe. He might have kept a
document to attest to this; otherwise any records would have been
kept by the yeshiva, or by the individual rabbi who ordained him.
Almost certainly there wouldn't be any records in the US. It's also
quite possible that he didn't have smicha at all.

Robert Israel
israel@math.ubc.ca
Vancouver, BC, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Orthodox Rabbi ordination procedure an authority - info needed #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article < nei4i1lfhaig9gra5iq92e320t0cp8nnvb@4ax.com >,
Howie Axelrod < highwind1@comcast.net > wrote:

My GGF Getzel (George) Zupnik was an Orthodox Rabbi in Scranton, PA
for some 22 years until his death in 1931 (per newspaper obit, living
relatives, etc.).
He came to the US in 1905 and oddly enough in the 1910 census
indicated his occupation as "Junk dealer - rubber, etc.". I can not
say why, but in in the 1920 census he listed his occupation as
"Rabbi"! . He came >from the area then known as Austria / Hungary,
which later became Hungary, I believe.
Then as now, not every rabbi worked as a congregational rabbi.
Presumably in 1910 he was working as a junk dealer, and in 1920
he was working as a rabbi.

I am assuming (correct me if I am wrong) that as an Orthodox Rabbi, he
needed to be ordained. Where would such records be kept in the US or
Hungary? Is Ordination a requirement (circa 1910-1930) to practice?
Is the a specific council or organization that does this?
There was (and is) no centralization of authority in Orthodox Judaism.
Most likely he would have obtained his smicha (i.e. been ordained) at
whichever yeshiva he attended in Europe. He might have kept a
document to attest to this; otherwise any records would have been
kept by the yeshiva, or by the individual rabbi who ordained him.
Almost certainly there wouldn't be any records in the US. It's also
quite possible that he didn't have smicha at all.

Robert Israel
israel@math.ubc.ca
Vancouver, BC, Canada


Look-up Frankfurt Germany telephone directory #general

Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
 

Is it possible for someone to look-up in the German telephone directory for
Frankfurt the name given on a page of testimony - 1995.

JACHIMOWICZ - first name Alta - Staufen Str... 60323 - Frankfurt.

If there should be other Jachimowicz in Frankfurt I should be most obliged
to receive their nos. too.

I have tried the German white pages but cannot find the surname in
Frankfurt, perhaps locally will prove more successful.

Please respond privately.

Thank you.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Look-up Frankfurt Germany telephone directory #general

Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
 

Is it possible for someone to look-up in the German telephone directory for
Frankfurt the name given on a page of testimony - 1995.

JACHIMOWICZ - first name Alta - Staufen Str... 60323 - Frankfurt.

If there should be other Jachimowicz in Frankfurt I should be most obliged
to receive their nos. too.

I have tried the German white pages but cannot find the surname in
Frankfurt, perhaps locally will prove more successful.

Please respond privately.

Thank you.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)