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Re: Care of Gravestones [in Germany] #germany

Ilan Szekely <tcdb@...>
 

I can only tell >from my own experience.
My ggparents are buried in the Duesseldorf Jewish cemetery.

Some years ago I visited the place and found that one grave in-script
is barely readable and the other has no stone at all. I just ordered new
tombstones for both, leaving the text and the style the same as it was.

The man who did it for me also sent me picture of the new stones.
At the same occasion I saw a lot of new gravestones being built.
The man in charge (the same who makes the grave stones) told me that
the Jewish community rebuilds the gravestones for the graves with destroyed
stones.

So maybe the Jewish community in Bad Segeberg neighbourhood can help you.
A donation will probably help a lot.

Ilan Szekely E-mail: ilan.szekely@mac.com E-mail: tcdb@mac.com


German SIG #Germany Re: Care of Gravestones [in Germany] #germany

Ilan Szekely <tcdb@...>
 

I can only tell >from my own experience.
My ggparents are buried in the Duesseldorf Jewish cemetery.

Some years ago I visited the place and found that one grave in-script
is barely readable and the other has no stone at all. I just ordered new
tombstones for both, leaving the text and the style the same as it was.

The man who did it for me also sent me picture of the new stones.
At the same occasion I saw a lot of new gravestones being built.
The man in charge (the same who makes the grave stones) told me that
the Jewish community rebuilds the gravestones for the graves with destroyed
stones.

So maybe the Jewish community in Bad Segeberg neighbourhood can help you.
A donation will probably help a lot.

Ilan Szekely E-mail: ilan.szekely@mac.com E-mail: tcdb@mac.com


Re: Care of Gravestones (in Germany) #germany

james bauer <jbauer87@...>
 

In response to Justin Levy's question, I faced a similar issue and consulted
our rabbi (Reform).

His comment was that there is an obligation to preserve the cemetery and,
therefore, it would be OK to have the stone set straight; however, in a
similar situation in Germany, the woman who was unofficially taking care of
the cemetery (unpaid) felt that it should be left natural and nothing should
be disturbed.

In that same situation, we were unclear which authority was responsible for
the cemetry; we got permission (to put other signs in the cemetery) >from the
Landesrabbiner (in this case for Baden-Wurttemberg).

James Bauer Garden City, New York <jbauer87@hotmail.com>


German SIG #Germany Re: Care of Gravestones (in Germany) #germany

james bauer <jbauer87@...>
 

In response to Justin Levy's question, I faced a similar issue and consulted
our rabbi (Reform).

His comment was that there is an obligation to preserve the cemetery and,
therefore, it would be OK to have the stone set straight; however, in a
similar situation in Germany, the woman who was unofficially taking care of
the cemetery (unpaid) felt that it should be left natural and nothing should
be disturbed.

In that same situation, we were unclear which authority was responsible for
the cemetry; we got permission (to put other signs in the cemetery) >from the
Landesrabbiner (in this case for Baden-Wurttemberg).

James Bauer Garden City, New York <jbauer87@hotmail.com>


Re: Care of Gravestones [in Germany] #germany

Zeev Raphael <zeevra@...>
 

"... my ggggf's gravestone (dating >from 1866) is tilting at such a precarious
angle that it was not possible to place a stone on it, and the German inscription
on the back can no longer be read. So, my question is should I ask the appropriate
authorities to re-set the stone in an upright position?
Justin Levy (Dublin, Ireland) levyduffy@eircom.net


I think you might very well do that.

Personally, I would ask them to have this done at *** my own *** expense.
This, because it is you who are interested to have the stone preserved.
In addition, I personally would beware of asking a German for any monetary
favours. With my best wishes,

Zeev Raphael, Haifa e-mail: zeevra@aerodyne.technion.ac.il


German SIG #Germany Re: Care of Gravestones [in Germany] #germany

Zeev Raphael <zeevra@...>
 

"... my ggggf's gravestone (dating >from 1866) is tilting at such a precarious
angle that it was not possible to place a stone on it, and the German inscription
on the back can no longer be read. So, my question is should I ask the appropriate
authorities to re-set the stone in an upright position?
Justin Levy (Dublin, Ireland) levyduffy@eircom.net


I think you might very well do that.

Personally, I would ask them to have this done at *** my own *** expense.
This, because it is you who are interested to have the stone preserved.
In addition, I personally would beware of asking a German for any monetary
favours. With my best wishes,

Zeev Raphael, Haifa e-mail: zeevra@aerodyne.technion.ac.il


Re: Care of Gravestones [in Germany] #germany

Nick Landau <N.Landau@...>
 

Dear Justin

I visited Southern Germany recently and, in particular, the cemetery where
my relatives are buried. Fortunately "my" cemetery is in a better state than
yours. My contact in the area told me to contact the Mayor and gave me his
email address.

Nick Landau London, UK <N.Landau@btinternet.com>

WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)


German SIG #Germany Re: Care of Gravestones [in Germany] #germany

Nick Landau <N.Landau@...>
 

Dear Justin

I visited Southern Germany recently and, in particular, the cemetery where
my relatives are buried. Fortunately "my" cemetery is in a better state than
yours. My contact in the area told me to contact the Mayor and gave me his
email address.

Nick Landau London, UK <N.Landau@btinternet.com>

WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)


Need help on Yiddish signature #belarus

Michael Goldstein <michael@...>
 

I would appreciate any help in translating a Yiddish signature posted on
ViewMate.

The postings is located at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6826

Please reply privately to michael@ourfamilyroots.net

Michael
MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen rules allow only 6 lines of "searching" or other
information. Also please sign all messages with your full name and location or they
will not be posted!
Researching descendants of:
ORTENBERG, STUPAK & PEKELIS of Ruzhin, Soloviyevka, Brusilov in Kiev
Gubernia, Ukraine and Suceava, Romania. ESTERSON, GILDENGERSH, NIKULINETZKY
& LINETZKY of Kobryn, Brest and Grodno (now Belarus),
GOLDSTEIN of Bessarabia & Toronto. MOSHKEVITCH & MANUSOFF of Nikapol &
Yekaterinoslav Ukraine

Known descendants are now in Canada, USA, Israel, Mexico, Argentina, Ukraine
Known Kin include above names plus in part: Berger, Kofsky, Olin, Wasserman,
Perrin, Levy, Nick, Schwarzbard, Bard, Brainin.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Need help on Yiddish signature #belarus

Michael Goldstein <michael@...>
 

I would appreciate any help in translating a Yiddish signature posted on
ViewMate.

The postings is located at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6826

Please reply privately to michael@ourfamilyroots.net

Michael
MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen rules allow only 6 lines of "searching" or other
information. Also please sign all messages with your full name and location or they
will not be posted!
Researching descendants of:
ORTENBERG, STUPAK & PEKELIS of Ruzhin, Soloviyevka, Brusilov in Kiev
Gubernia, Ukraine and Suceava, Romania. ESTERSON, GILDENGERSH, NIKULINETZKY
& LINETZKY of Kobryn, Brest and Grodno (now Belarus),
GOLDSTEIN of Bessarabia & Toronto. MOSHKEVITCH & MANUSOFF of Nikapol &
Yekaterinoslav Ukraine

Known descendants are now in Canada, USA, Israel, Mexico, Argentina, Ukraine
Known Kin include above names plus in part: Berger, Kofsky, Olin, Wasserman,
Perrin, Levy, Nick, Schwarzbard, Bard, Brainin.


Bessarabia Duma Project Completed #ukraine

Terry Lasky <tlasky@...>
 

The Bessarabia Duma List Project is now completed. Another 55,000+
names have been added bringing the total to 128,000 names. The
Bessarabia Duma project is a listing of all men over the age of 24 who
were eligible to vote in the 1906 and 1907 Bessarabian Duma Election.
It includes all of Moldova and portions of the Ukraine. In the Ukraine
it covers the Black Sea area (Belgorod Dnestrovskiy, Izmayil, Kiliya,
Bolhrad, Reni, Vylkove and others) and the area just north of the
Moldovan border (Khotin, Novoseltsy, Sokiryany and others). This
database is a part of the ALL-ROMANIAN database. Many people worked on
this project but I would specifically like to thank Harry Green, Claire
Stuart and Leslie Oberman who were the "superstars" of this effort and
did the majority of the work. I would also like to thank Jewishgen for
all of their support and especially Warren Blatt and Michael Tobias.

Terry Lasky
Project Lead
Colorado, USA


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Bessarabia Duma Project Completed #ukraine

Terry Lasky <tlasky@...>
 

The Bessarabia Duma List Project is now completed. Another 55,000+
names have been added bringing the total to 128,000 names. The
Bessarabia Duma project is a listing of all men over the age of 24 who
were eligible to vote in the 1906 and 1907 Bessarabian Duma Election.
It includes all of Moldova and portions of the Ukraine. In the Ukraine
it covers the Black Sea area (Belgorod Dnestrovskiy, Izmayil, Kiliya,
Bolhrad, Reni, Vylkove and others) and the area just north of the
Moldovan border (Khotin, Novoseltsy, Sokiryany and others). This
database is a part of the ALL-ROMANIAN database. Many people worked on
this project but I would specifically like to thank Harry Green, Claire
Stuart and Leslie Oberman who were the "superstars" of this effort and
did the majority of the work. I would also like to thank Jewishgen for
all of their support and especially Warren Blatt and Michael Tobias.

Terry Lasky
Project Lead
Colorado, USA


Photos of Kazimierz, the Jewish quarter of Krakow #galicia

Peter Jassem <pjassem@...>
 

Photos of Kazimierz, the Jewish quarter of Krakow, can be viewed at
http://www.jubi.buum.pl/6_g-kazimierz-2004_0.html


Peter Jassem
Toronto


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Photos of Kazimierz, the Jewish quarter of Krakow #galicia

Peter Jassem <pjassem@...>
 

Photos of Kazimierz, the Jewish quarter of Krakow, can be viewed at
http://www.jubi.buum.pl/6_g-kazimierz-2004_0.html


Peter Jassem
Toronto


Re: Seeking correct Town name #galicia

Alexander Sharon
 

Henry Schwartz wrote:

I have names of towns which were located in Poland area but I am not sure
what the names are today.

The names are KROCANKA ; CHAROLI ; JASZLO ; TASZLOV WROCZANKA GACZOSZAG

I don't know if they are all different names or all the same town.

Henry,

It appears that Polish town names were distorted.
Key word seems to be "Jaszlo" - this is town Jaslo at 4945 2128
"Krosanka" appers to be Kroscienko
"Wroczanka" is Wrocanka, located ~ 6 miles distance >from Jaslo

But Taszlov, Gaczoszag or Caroli sound like Hungarian places.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Seeking correct Town name #galicia

Alexander Sharon
 

Henry Schwartz wrote:

I have names of towns which were located in Poland area but I am not sure
what the names are today.

The names are KROCANKA ; CHAROLI ; JASZLO ; TASZLOV WROCZANKA GACZOSZAG

I don't know if they are all different names or all the same town.

Henry,

It appears that Polish town names were distorted.
Key word seems to be "Jaszlo" - this is town Jaslo at 4945 2128
"Krosanka" appers to be Kroscienko
"Wroczanka" is Wrocanka, located ~ 6 miles distance >from Jaslo

But Taszlov, Gaczoszag or Caroli sound like Hungarian places.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


Riga 1870 Lists #general

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

You should do a search of the All Latvia Database now known as the
Jewishgen Latvia Database.
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/latvia/

Arlene Beare
Database Coordinator for Latvia SIG

Original message:

I would like help with the following:
How do I access archival lists through the web of Riga, Latvia such
as population census or Tax Adminstrative lists >from approximately
the year 1870 onwards?
Thank you in advance for your help.
Ora Hirshfeld - Perlman,
Tel Aviv,Israel


Re: How To(?): Small Genealogy Groups #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Steve Orlen" <sorlen@email.arizona.edu> wrote in message

Dear Cousins,

Over the years I've met a few times with small genealogical groups, once
each time. The problem was that each of us had our stories to tell, and
wanted to tell those stories, which were common to all of us, and even
interesting at times. But there was no leadership and no organization,
thus little help to any of us. Most of the members, by the way, were
fairly experienced genners.

Can anyone offer a good plan of activity for such a group?
I suspect that you could set up a private discussion group (as per this
group but private - members only) which would be the best way to organise
such informal and random contacts.

Maybe someone could create a website (again compare a photo album) where
interesting documents and presentations could be lodged.

Someone else would have to tell you how to go about this.

Then again like this group you can contact those within the group with whom
you have something to share, impart.

By definition we are all a set of overlapping families, so that you have a
different family >from a first cousin's family - so that the only people who
have precisely the same as yours are your siblings, and then when you marry
your tree (including your spouse's) differs >from a sibling by approx 50 per
cent.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Riga 1870 Lists #general

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

You should do a search of the All Latvia Database now known as the
Jewishgen Latvia Database.
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/latvia/

Arlene Beare
Database Coordinator for Latvia SIG

Original message:

I would like help with the following:
How do I access archival lists through the web of Riga, Latvia such
as population census or Tax Adminstrative lists >from approximately
the year 1870 onwards?
Thank you in advance for your help.
Ora Hirshfeld - Perlman,
Tel Aviv,Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: How To(?): Small Genealogy Groups #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Steve Orlen" <sorlen@email.arizona.edu> wrote in message

Dear Cousins,

Over the years I've met a few times with small genealogical groups, once
each time. The problem was that each of us had our stories to tell, and
wanted to tell those stories, which were common to all of us, and even
interesting at times. But there was no leadership and no organization,
thus little help to any of us. Most of the members, by the way, were
fairly experienced genners.

Can anyone offer a good plan of activity for such a group?
I suspect that you could set up a private discussion group (as per this
group but private - members only) which would be the best way to organise
such informal and random contacts.

Maybe someone could create a website (again compare a photo album) where
interesting documents and presentations could be lodged.

Someone else would have to tell you how to go about this.

Then again like this group you can contact those within the group with whom
you have something to share, impart.

By definition we are all a set of overlapping families, so that you have a
different family >from a first cousin's family - so that the only people who
have precisely the same as yours are your siblings, and then when you marry
your tree (including your spouse's) differs >from a sibling by approx 50 per
cent.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)