No more requests please!

Naturally I can't do your research for you - I am primarily going to
research my own large family.

The contacts for all the cemeteries is given on the Jewish Cemetery Project
site. http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/

Lots can be done via the Internet and emails as I have done.

Regards
--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)

No more requests please!

Naturally I can't do your research for you - I am primarily going to
research my own large family.

The contacts for all the cemeteries is given on the Jewish Cemetery Project
site. http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/

Lots can be done via the Internet and emails as I have done.

Regards
--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)

Not all burial societies were restricted to people >from a specific town or
area. I have found people >from towns in Galicia buried in plots owned by
landsmanshaften of other towns. I think that sometimes people joined a
society with friends, co workers, neighbors, etc.

My "adopted" (related by love, not blood) aunt and uncle, are buried in lot
48, gr s 3 & 4 in the Dr Nathan Adler Lodge plot at Old Mt Carmel, in Qns,
NY- She was >from Bialystok, he >from the Warsaw area. They did not know
each other in Europe and first met in the US.

Barbara S. Mannlein
Tucson, AZ
.

Not all burial societies were restricted to people >from a specific town or
area. I have found people >from towns in Galicia buried in plots owned by
landsmanshaften of other towns. I think that sometimes people joined a
society with friends, co workers, neighbors, etc.

My "adopted" (related by love, not blood) aunt and uncle, are buried in lot
48, gr s 3 & 4 in the Dr Nathan Adler Lodge plot at Old Mt Carmel, in Qns,
NY- She was >from Bialystok, he >from the Warsaw area. They did not know
each other in Europe and first met in the US.

Barbara S. Mannlein
Tucson, AZ
.

On 2005.08.04, Dan Rottenberg <d.rottenberg@verizon.net> wrote:

One reason that casts doubt on a connection:
1. My great-grandfather Louis MARGULIES (1864-1923) was a Levite,
according to his gravestone. I've found nothing in any rabbinic
literature to indicate that the rabbinical MARGOLIOTHs were Levites.

I don't know if this is the case, but generally, it is possible
that a Levite ancestor (with whatever surname) was married into
a non-Levite MARGOLIOTH family and took his wife's surname.

Shabat Shalom,
Tomer Brunner, Israel

On 2005.08.04, Dan Rottenberg <d.rottenberg@verizon.net> wrote:

One reason that casts doubt on a connection:
1. My great-grandfather Louis MARGULIES (1864-1923) was a Levite,
according to his gravestone. I've found nothing in any rabbinic
literature to indicate that the rabbinical MARGOLIOTHs were Levites.

I don't know if this is the case, but generally, it is possible
that a Levite ancestor (with whatever surname) was married into
a non-Levite MARGOLIOTH family and took his wife's surname.

Shabat Shalom,
Tomer Brunner, Israel

Hans M Unger wrote: "...I asssume the explanation is that anybody choose
this name after the town Bamberg according to the decree of Napoleon in 1808
or 1810?"

Maybe. Here is an actual but different example. I will leave the locality
unnamed:

A woman, unmarried, had an extramarital child. The Register (Matrikel) shows
the father to be somebody >from Frankfurt. The child is listed in the
Matrikel as "Frankfurter."

George Arnstein in Washington, DC garnstein@calalum.org

Hans M Unger wrote: "...I asssume the explanation is that anybody choose
this name after the town Bamberg according to the decree of Napoleon in 1808
or 1810?"

Maybe. Here is an actual but different example. I will leave the locality
unnamed:

A woman, unmarried, had an extramarital child. The Register (Matrikel) shows
the father to be somebody >from Frankfurt. The child is listed in the
Matrikel as "Frankfurter."

George Arnstein in Washington, DC garnstein@calalum.org

Dear ravsig:

Yoni Ben-Ari's recent message (Aug. 2) on Rabbi Meir Wunder's
genealogy on the MARGULIES dynasty, "Elef Margaliot," prompts this
query. I haven't seen "Elef Margaliot" and would be hard-pressed to
accurately decipher the Hebrew in any case. So I'm seeking help from
fellow rav-siggers in figuring out how/if my MARGULIES/MARGOLIOTH
ancestors >from Zbarazh, Galicia were related to the famous
MARGOLIOTH Rabbinic Dynasty, some of whose members flourished in
that area.

I have four good reasons for believing such a connection exists, and
one reason to believe that it doesn't. The reasons in favor:

1. Two of my MARGULIES relatives told me years ago that the family
was descended >from rabbis.

2. In the 18th Century, two generations of the famous MARGOLIOTH
rabbinical family served as rabbis in Zbarazh, the same town where
my MARGULIES ancestors lived at least as far back as 1750. Zbarazh
had a Jewish population of just 910 in 1765, so it seems likely that
any Jews with such a distinctive name in such a small community
would be related somehow.

3. Rabbi Meir Wunder of Jerusalem, the authority on Galician
rabbinical genealogies, once told me himself that all MARGOLIOTHS

from Eastern Galicia are related.

4. My MARGULIES ancestors in Zbarazh were intermarried with two
other families with famous rabbinic names. My great-great-
grandfather Schaie MARGULIES (1838-1885) married Reizel SCHAPIRA,
daughter of Leib SCHAPIRA (1800-1863). Leib SCHAPIRA's wife
(Reizel's mother) was Czarne BARAK SCHAPIRA (1818-1878), daughter of
Markus BARAK (born about 1790). The name SCHAPIRA is often traced
back to the SPIRA rabbinic dynasty, and Barak is often an acronym
for "ben Reb Kalonymus," indicating descent >from the Kalonymus
rabbinic dynasty. I have no idea if my SCHAPIRA and BARAK ancestors
are of rabbinic descent, but the interconnection of these names is
striking.

One reason that casts doubt on a connection:

1. My great-grandfather Louis MARGULIES (1864-1923) was a Levite,
according to his gravestone. I've found nothing in any rabbinic
literature to indicate that the rabbinical MARGOLIOTHs were Levites.

Any help in shedding light on my quest would be appreciated. The
details about my MARGOLIOTH ancestors >from Zbarazh are as follows:
My great-grandfather Louis MARGULIES (1864-1923) was the son of
Schaie MARGULIES (1838-1885), who was the son of Leizer MARGULIES
(1808-1859). Leizer's father's name isn't known, but his mother's
married name was Ruchel MARGULIES (1790-1831). She in turn was the
daughter-in-law of another Ruchel MARGULIES (1750-1834), whose
husband's name also isn't known. I'm speculating that one of these
two Ruchels may have been married to a descendant of the MARGOLIOTH
rabbinic dynasty. But how explain the Levite designation? Thanks for
any help you can provide.

Dan Rottenberg
Philadelphia PA USA

Dear ravsig:

Yoni Ben-Ari's recent message (Aug. 2) on Rabbi Meir Wunder's
genealogy on the MARGULIES dynasty, "Elef Margaliot," prompts this
query. I haven't seen "Elef Margaliot" and would be hard-pressed to
accurately decipher the Hebrew in any case. So I'm seeking help from
fellow rav-siggers in figuring out how/if my MARGULIES/MARGOLIOTH
ancestors >from Zbarazh, Galicia were related to the famous
MARGOLIOTH Rabbinic Dynasty, some of whose members flourished in
that area.

I have four good reasons for believing such a connection exists, and
one reason to believe that it doesn't. The reasons in favor:

1. Two of my MARGULIES relatives told me years ago that the family
was descended >from rabbis.

2. In the 18th Century, two generations of the famous MARGOLIOTH
rabbinical family served as rabbis in Zbarazh, the same town where
my MARGULIES ancestors lived at least as far back as 1750. Zbarazh
had a Jewish population of just 910 in 1765, so it seems likely that
any Jews with such a distinctive name in such a small community
would be related somehow.

3. Rabbi Meir Wunder of Jerusalem, the authority on Galician
rabbinical genealogies, once told me himself that all MARGOLIOTHS

from Eastern Galicia are related.

4. My MARGULIES ancestors in Zbarazh were intermarried with two
other families with famous rabbinic names. My great-great-
grandfather Schaie MARGULIES (1838-1885) married Reizel SCHAPIRA,
daughter of Leib SCHAPIRA (1800-1863). Leib SCHAPIRA's wife
(Reizel's mother) was Czarne BARAK SCHAPIRA (1818-1878), daughter of
Markus BARAK (born about 1790). The name SCHAPIRA is often traced
back to the SPIRA rabbinic dynasty, and Barak is often an acronym
for "ben Reb Kalonymus," indicating descent >from the Kalonymus
rabbinic dynasty. I have no idea if my SCHAPIRA and BARAK ancestors
are of rabbinic descent, but the interconnection of these names is
striking.

One reason that casts doubt on a connection:

1. My great-grandfather Louis MARGULIES (1864-1923) was a Levite,
according to his gravestone. I've found nothing in any rabbinic
literature to indicate that the rabbinical MARGOLIOTHs were Levites.

Any help in shedding light on my quest would be appreciated. The
details about my MARGOLIOTH ancestors >from Zbarazh are as follows:
My great-grandfather Louis MARGULIES (1864-1923) was the son of
Schaie MARGULIES (1838-1885), who was the son of Leizer MARGULIES
(1808-1859). Leizer's father's name isn't known, but his mother's
married name was Ruchel MARGULIES (1790-1831). She in turn was the
daughter-in-law of another Ruchel MARGULIES (1750-1834), whose
husband's name also isn't known. I'm speculating that one of these
two Ruchels may have been married to a descendant of the MARGOLIOTH
rabbinic dynasty. But how explain the Levite designation? Thanks for
any help you can provide.

Dan Rottenberg
Philadelphia PA USA

The same story often repeated here by others has finally come to pass
with my family, thanks to Yad Vashem. A whole branch of our family
assumed lost in the Shoah survived and flourished in the Soviet Union,
then in Israel. I found them because they filled out Yad Vashem pages
of testimony for their relatives killed.

The POTs were over 10 years old and none of the addresses were
current, so the key to success was using the Israeli telephone
directory at www.144.bezek.com. In fact, the surname I was searching
is so unusual that if I had thought of it, I could have found them
before I located the POTs just by searching each of the six area codes
in Israel. You need to be able to enter Hebrew to use the site.

I just picked up the phone and called. You can't imagine their
surprise. Now our little descendant tree of KAPITOVSKY has doubled in
size.

--
Jeremiah Wilton

The same story often repeated here by others has finally come to pass
with my family, thanks to Yad Vashem. A whole branch of our family
assumed lost in the Shoah survived and flourished in the Soviet Union,
then in Israel. I found them because they filled out Yad Vashem pages
of testimony for their relatives killed.

The POTs were over 10 years old and none of the addresses were
current, so the key to success was using the Israeli telephone
directory at www.144.bezek.com. In fact, the surname I was searching
is so unusual that if I had thought of it, I could have found them
before I located the POTs just by searching each of the six area codes
in Israel. You need to be able to enter Hebrew to use the site.

I just picked up the phone and called. You can't imagine their
surprise. Now our little descendant tree of KAPITOVSKY has doubled in
size.

--
Jeremiah Wilton

Hello,

My client's ancestors come >from Radoszyce in Poland, and we have
traced the family tree to show that my client's family, the
SZTAJNSZNAJDERs, married into the FINKLER family. The FINKLERs were,
apparently, prominent members of the Radoszyce Dynasty whose last
rabbi perished in the Holocaust. I do not know much about this
rabbinical family apart >from what is available on the internet and
am wondering if anyone would know more about them, their writings,
teachings, and so on. This would be of enormous interest to my
client. I can provide more details if need be.

Sincerely,
Krystyna Duszniak
Lost Histories
Family Research
East St Kilda
Victoria, Australia

Hello,

My client's ancestors come >from Radoszyce in Poland, and we have
traced the family tree to show that my client's family, the
SZTAJNSZNAJDERs, married into the FINKLER family. The FINKLERs were,
apparently, prominent members of the Radoszyce Dynasty whose last
rabbi perished in the Holocaust. I do not know much about this
rabbinical family apart >from what is available on the internet and
am wondering if anyone would know more about them, their writings,
teachings, and so on. This would be of enormous interest to my
client. I can provide more details if need be.

Sincerely,
Krystyna Duszniak
Lost Histories
Family Research
East St Kilda
Victoria, Australia

Dear all

I am researching my four grandparental families - Friedman (>from Libau),
Zlotover (Avaslan near Papile), Zimbler (Goldingen) and Tarshish (Zosli).
All four families emigrated >from Courland and Lithuania in the late 1880s
following the May Laws of 1882.

As part of my researches, I have travelled extensively around Courland and
met many members of the local community in Libau.

I am currently setting up a website called www.avaslan.net that tracks my
research and includes a number of photos of the area.

Please do check it out and share with me any information you may have on the
four towns/stehtls. Also if anyone can see any links with any of my four
family trees (also posted on the website) please do contact me.

Best regards to all

Brian Friedman

Dear all

I am researching my four grandparental families - Friedman (>from Libau),
Zlotover (Avaslan near Papile), Zimbler (Goldingen) and Tarshish (Zosli).
All four families emigrated >from Courland and Lithuania in the late 1880s
following the May Laws of 1882.

As part of my researches, I have travelled extensively around Courland and
met many members of the local community in Libau.

I am currently setting up a website called www.avaslan.net that tracks my
research and includes a number of photos of the area.

Please do check it out and share with me any information you may have on the
four towns/stehtls. Also if anyone can see any links with any of my four
family trees (also posted on the website) please do contact me.

Best regards to all

Brian Friedman

Hello again!

Anna GINSBERG (Nov 1880 - Jul 1950) was, according to her gravestone in King
Williamstown (South Africa), born in Strassbourg. Her father was Leo GINSBERG
born either in Breslau or Beuthen, and her mother was Louise, née HOEXTER
(? HOECHSTER). Her father Leo apparently fought for the Prussians in the 1870
conflict. When she was born, the city of her birth would have been under Prussian
control.

Where would I be able to obtain a copy of Anna's birth certificate, and should
it be found, is it likely to indicate her father's profession?

Adam Yamey,London, UK<adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>

Hello again!

Anna GINSBERG (Nov 1880 - Jul 1950) was, according to her gravestone in King
Williamstown (South Africa), born in Strassbourg. Her father was Leo GINSBERG
born either in Breslau or Beuthen, and her mother was Louise, née HOEXTER
(? HOECHSTER). Her father Leo apparently fought for the Prussians in the 1870
conflict. When she was born, the city of her birth would have been under Prussian
control.

Where would I be able to obtain a copy of Anna's birth certificate, and should
it be found, is it likely to indicate her father's profession?

Adam Yamey,London, UK<adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>

My cousin by marriage, Herbert Kaufmann, has written a nice essay on
German Jewish naming practices which is published on my family website:

http://www.kittymunson.com/Thannhauser/TheKaufmannName.html

Kitty M. Cooper Albuquerque NM (new email) <kittymcooper@gmail.com>

Researching: http://www.kittymunson.com/Thannhauser/
THANNHAUSER Moenchsdeggingen, Swabia>Munich,Bavaria>Boston (also
Huerben>Munich and Fellheim>Philadelphia)
KUTZ Moenchsdeggingen, Swabia
WURZBERGER, ENGEL Munich,Bavaria
LANGERMANN Floss,Bavaria (NYC,SouthAfrica,England)
GUGENHEIMER Huerben>Kleinerdlingen,Swabia>Regensberg,Bavaria
GUNDELFINGER Huerben>Kleinerdlingen,Swabia
STEINHARDT Floss,Bavaria

My cousin by marriage, Herbert Kaufmann, has written a nice essay on
German Jewish naming practices which is published on my family website:

http://www.kittymunson.com/Thannhauser/TheKaufmannName.html

Kitty M. Cooper Albuquerque NM (new email) <kittymcooper@gmail.com>

Researching: http://www.kittymunson.com/Thannhauser/
THANNHAUSER Moenchsdeggingen, Swabia>Munich,Bavaria>Boston (also
Huerben>Munich and Fellheim>Philadelphia)
KUTZ Moenchsdeggingen, Swabia
WURZBERGER, ENGEL Munich,Bavaria
LANGERMANN Floss,Bavaria (NYC,SouthAfrica,England)
GUGENHEIMER Huerben>Kleinerdlingen,Swabia>Regensberg,Bavaria
GUNDELFINGER Huerben>Kleinerdlingen,Swabia
STEINHARDT Floss,Bavaria